So now that the dust has settled, X-Men Apocalypse has come out and been panned by everyone (it has a lower Rotten Tomatoes score than X-Men the Last Stand, Man of Steel, and The Amazing Spider-Man 2). It's the second lowest X-Men movie just above Wolverine Origins. Meanwhile, Deadpool is loved by everyone and breaking records.
What can Fox do to fix X-Men like Tim Miller and Ryan Reynolds fixed Deadpool? What did Deadpool do right that X-Men Apcoalypse did so wrong?
Why should people give a fuck about Rotten Tomatoes?
Bentley Miller
Because bad movies tend to get more bad reviews than good movies.
Cooper Johnson
Because bad RT score equals Bad Movie.
Tyler Garcia
> wew lad
Justin Myers
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Nicholas Reed
They just need to dial back from "end if the world!" and focus more on the characters and their interactions. That's what made DP, First Class and DoFP successful and where Apocalypse failed.
Jaxson Roberts
>What can Fox do to fix X-Men like Tim Miller and Ryan Reynolds fixed Deadpool? Get someone who actually likes and respects the X-Men to make the movies. Deadpool was good because it's made by people who actually like and respect Deadpool. X-Men Apocalypse is made by Singer, who hates comic books. He even told his actors not to read the comics before. He considers himself better than Morrison and Claremont. He takes more from the Matrix movies than the X-Men source. He thinks Rolan Emmerich/MoS destruction porn is still cool. And he can't write good female characters to save himself.
Fox really needs fresh blood for the X-Men movies.
Logan Rogers
Fox should stop raping the X-Men and just give the rights back to Marvel.
That way we can have Wolverine and Captain America teaming up in WW2.
And Spider-Man teaming up with Firestar and Iceman.
And Beast on the Avengers.
And Rogue vs Carol.
And Peter Parker dating Kitty Pryde.
And World War Hulk.
And Black Panther dating Storm.
And Avengers vs X-Men.
Adam Jenkins
Hire someone who has a better eye for the cast.
Cyces is a manlet, Beast is too thin, Jean has a bigger forehead than Xavier, etc,etc.
They should put the guy playing Beast playing Cykes. They should put the guy playing Jean playing Beast. They should put the guy playing Cykes doing catering.
It's fucking 2016 and we still haven't had a legit group-focused X-men movie. It's always about the actors, and even then, every single line they are given in Apocalypse seems to be made for a trailer with how generic they feel. Stop fucking around and try, at least.
Easton Nguyen
Waiter! These pastas are stale.
Zachary Smith
what made first class successful was it was so damn campy people went to go see it so they could trash the damn movie
if you think xmen first class was a good movie unironically you need to go back to /lit/ were plebs hang out
laser hula hoop... thats all i have to say
Parker Morgan
for fuck sake marvelshill, do you have to make this thread every hour?
Parker Miller
>They should put the guy playing Beast playing Cykes. this this this this this this this this
Nicholas Ross
Maybe Fox should just give up and hire Michael Bay to make all their X-Men movie. They'll still be shit, but will at least make money (you are now imagining Sentinels as over-designed metal trash and Nightcrawler as a 8'0 blue shrek crossed with a black person).
Or maybe they can hire Zack Snyder since they love destruction porn where billions die and the killer gets away and everyone forgives him.
Zachary Cooper
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Xavier Evans
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Liam Green
get Whedon to make the next X-Men movie!
Evan Murphy
>more cyclops cucking.
Isaiah Brown
>Black Panther dating Storm
Robert Roberts
>we will never have a based Rightclops movie
Juan Carter
I hope that they just make New Mutants a sleepover party at the Mansion gone wrong, kind of story. I don't need the world to end, I just want some characters other than Xavier, Mags, Wolverine, and Mystique to root for.
Ian Anderson
Wooops.
Easton Price
I hope they don't mess with Deadpool 2 because of Apocalypse's shittyness.
Owen Ortiz
RT doesn't mean fucking shit as a rule, but the movie did still have its problems. They just need that same passion Deadpool did, and have fun with the property
Jeremiah Brooks
>RT doesn't mean fucking shit It shows if your movie is good or bad.
Carson Hill
see I know your trolling anyway.
Hudson Parker
>tend to
It's okay first user
There's at least one other person here who still knows how to read.
Isaiah Carter
If you have to qualify a statement, it's not a true statement.
Jason Hughes
>le Force Awakens is bad meme Sup Forums pls leave
Even Red Letter Media loved the movie. Only cucks like you and Max Landis hate it.
Anthony Peterson
It is the worst blockbuster ever made in terms of amount of creativity on display.
Bentley Wilson
the force awakens was a good movie and people liked and enjoyed it
get over it
John Anderson
>the force awakens was a good movie 'no'
Jose Peterson
yes
Carter Bell
I like to think only good things are going to come out after wolverine 3.
Like new mutants, one of te best teen team.
Deadpool 2 with cable and maybe Domino
X-force probably with Remender team.
I am even a little hype for Gambit.
Camden Thompson
>trusting Rotten Tomatoes Ugh! Like! Ugh! Don't you know that Rotten Tomaroes is literally Adolf Hitler??? This is the same website that have Max Landis's movies (yes THE Max Landis) rotten scores!!! This is of course crazy since Max Landis's movies are the greatest movies of the century!!!(Max Landis says so). Rotten Tomatoes (and criticism) NEEDS to be destroyed!!!!
And why does The Force Awakens have a high RT scores???!!!! Women can't be strong! They belong in the kitchen or as generic love intrests to skinny pathetic white males (like in Max Landis's movies). It is so unrealistic. Such a Mary Sue!
Ugh! Everyone at RT needs to die so Max Landis can save cinema!
Ian Hall
>roughly 90% of people thought TFA was above a 5/10 Sounds right to me. Quit posting this as if it's proof of anything just because it contradicts your contrarian opinion. In order for that image to prove anything I'd first have to be convinced that your opinion is anything above shit.
Thomas Price
>It is the worst blockbuster ever made in terms of amount of creativity on display.
No, that would be Fox's Fantastic Four by Trank.
Matthew Sanchez
People like Force Awakens, me personally
Did it have flaws, of course. Rey going full Mary Sue once she gets kidnapped by Kylo Ren, wasted characters like Poe and Phasma, playing it safe by retreading New Hope. But I enjoyed it all the same.
Nolan Ortiz
No? It was clearly going for a Cronenberg style body horror thing that the studio just fucked up. FF was much more enjoyable to watch, as much of a shitfest as it was.
John Wilson
To be honest, even before the meddling Trank was just not co-operating at all. Meaning in a rare instance it was both his and the studios fault.
Ayden Clark
Wait everyone hates X-Men: apocalypse now? I didn't think it was that bad.
Zachary Morales
>muh critics >muh score
Apocalyse is the 2nd most successful X-Men movie... "what went wrong" more like "what went so fucking right"
Not bad, but it's really mediocre and average, and it's worse considering the previous X-Men movie is one of the best. Seems like no one was interested in this movie.
Jonathan Young
Because it's shit? The action was terrible, the cgi was ugly, the story was boring, JLaw gave a half-assed performance, Fassbender was overacting, Magneto's boring dead family took up a third of the movie, and they interupt the movie to show a blatant commercial for Wolverine 3 (I'm surprised they didn't flash the text RESERVE YOUR TICKETS NOW!). Singer is a product of the past. The same generation as the Matrix and Roland Emmerich. He's old.
Nicholas Rogers
>what went so right >made 250 million less than the previous entry >critically panned >everyone agrees the movie is just a bunch of nothing
I agree, someone please ask what went right because I'm not sure.
Angel Robinson
Meanwhile Deadpool is breaking records and kicking ass and everyone loves him.
They should just have Deadpool lead the X-Men. Call them the D-Men.
Thomas Cooper
>FROM THE STUDIO THAT BROUGHT YOU DEADPOOL >FROM THE DEADPOOL UNIVERSE™ FOX PRESENTS... >X-MEN: THE DARK PHOENIX
Sebastian Lopez
>middle of 2016 and Daredevil season 1 still hasn't been released on physical Blu-Ray
Does this pretty much prove that Fox has first right of refual for the distribution of a Daredevil or Elektra movie or tv show like how Universal has first right of refusal for the distribution of a Hulk or Namor solo movie?
They didn't even really make a 'tv' show either. They made a show that's on an internet video network.
I bet if this is the case that even if Fox let the Fantastic Four or X-Men rights revert back to Marvel. Fox would have the first right of refusal for distribution at least on a movie with only the Fantastic Four or only the X-Men.
Nathan Foster
Daredevil rights went back to Marvel in 2014. Don't know about the other shit though.
Levi Adams
>this retard spamming this pasta again >image.jpg >you literally have this copy/pasted on your phone just for shitposting purposes Damn I'm glad I'm not living your life my man
Jackson Watson
Or just go into X-Force
Adam Ortiz
>if I hate something it's bad right?
Leo Carter
Why is Fox so evil? Why can't someone just burn their building downs and kill them all? The world would be a better place.
Joshua Green
>Needed more Mystique >Except the Black Widow >this much SJW pandering Why are critics so terrible?
David Lee
Fox needs to: >Stop skipping 10 years in every movie while using the same actors. They're doing that for the next one, so we're getting the 90s whether we like it or not >Stop trying to always end the world. Dial the threats back, but still have them be important >Focus on character development and interaction. We basically have an entirely new cast with how Jean, Cyke, Kurt, and the rest are being portrayed. Let them grow on us with how they interact. Cutting the mall scene was a mistake. >Take a break from Xavier vs. Magneto. 6 movies now. 6 fucking movies. >Dial down the X-Men hate. It's gotten stale in the comics and it has gotten stale in the movies. Yeah, being a mutant is hard. That doesn't need to be addressed in every movie you have.
Levi Campbell
Fox needs to give the Fantastic Four rights back to Marvel. I'm fine with X-Men at Fox at the moment, but Fox has butchered Fantastic Four to hell and back. At least let them go back home.
Isaiah Watson
>home The MCU is not a part of Marvel Entertainment.
Jason Torres
>Olivia Munn turned down the "sexist" role of Deadpool's love to be a generic hench with little to no development an lines (a role she bragged about). Bet she must be kicking herself after that choice.
Jackson Moore
Especially considering that Deadpool's love interest was a decent character who will only get more development later on. I know there can't be Death, but I'm bummed there won't be Shiklah
Ryan Morris
Let's be honest, pretty much any role she played would be changed to little to no development and lines once they realized that Munn can't actually act.
Jordan Allen
By letting Bryan Singer handle it all. First Class was still a better movie than days of future past.
Nolan Gutierrez
>in terms of amount of creativity on display
Yeah, so...something only Sup Forums cares about.
Movies as high art, blah blah blah.
Mason Nelson
Fuck everyone, Apocalypse was miles better than X3, and Man of Steel and BvS
Camden Bennett
I think BvS was a better movie, but Apocalypse was more enjoyable to watch most of the time.
John Rogers
All four of those are bad movies though.
Connor Rogers
You people are disgusting. Kill yourselves.
Dominic Sullivan
If FOX didn't make bank on Deadpool they would be at the negotiation table with Marvel right now. It barely made over 500mil. It made almost half what BvS did. What a fucking failure
Ethan Foster
And yet Deadpool did make bank. And it's the most successful X movie to date.
Dominic Johnson
just make deadpool the main character of every x-men movie from now on and make sure that tim miller is in charge of everything
Carson Nguyen
>If it's not MCU, it's bad t. Feige and his army of Disney interns
Lucas Edwards
yup
Jayden Adams
IMDB is at 7.4 while CW is barely at 8. I see no issue.
Connor Reed
>If it's not MCU, it's bad To be fair, it's True. The MCU is Capekino. It's a MCU world, everyone is just living in it. *Mic Drop*
Owen Nelson
>Because it's shit? The action was terrible, the cgi was ugly, the story was boring, JLaw gave a half-assed performance, Fassbender was overacting, Magneto's boring dead family took up a third of the movie, and they interupt the movie to show a blatant commercial for Wolverine 3 (I'm surprised they didn't flash the text RESERVE YOUR TICKETS NOW!).
Are you describing Civil war by any chance? Replace Wolverine with Spider-man obviously.
The action scenes are miles away than anything marvel did in cw.
Xavier Gonzalez
To be kino must have artistic merit. Comic book accuracy is irrelevant. True kino is for example Hulk 2003, X2 and SM2.
The MCU is fun, is serviceable but not kino at all.
Christian Ward
>Trusting IMBD >Ever RT has scores from actual professional critics. IMBD is pointless because a person can create a billion fake accounts and vote up a movie. It's literally the worse way to judge a movie. Even BvS and Warcraft have 7a despite both being worse than the holocaust. Even Metacritic is better.
Do everyone a favor, Fox Employee. Tell your Bosses to stop hiring pedophiles to make your cape films and hire people like Shane Black and Russos.
Evan Torres
jesus christ, is this thread a repost? literally the same replies
Oliver Bennett
The action scenes were terrible. Cyclops himself is pointless and gets put into the wall.
Spider-Man was actually fun and added charm to the movie. The weapon x cameo was lazy and boring since we already saw his original before. Also Sniktbub getting turned on by underage JEEEEAAAAAAN was gross. What's next? Have Quicksilver bang his sister?
Logan Gonzalez
It's Foxshills desperate to shill their bosses shitty movies. Because they know that if they lose X-Men and FF to the Marvel, Marvel will actually make good movies with the properties back and make the Foxshills look like idiots (well BIGGER idiots).
It's really sad.
Ryan Bell
Ha, that's so funny. As if anything said on this message board actually has any effect on pop culture at large.
Oliver Ortiz
>Also Sniktbub getting turned on by underage JEEEEAAAAAAN was gross. Considering in the comics is Xavier the one who gets turned on by underage Jean I see no issue with this.
Cyclops is a complete scrub and could hold off himself good enough. He literally had a few days at the school and probably less than one week since discovering his powers. Again, no issue with that. It makes sense for Scott not to know how to fight.
The action scenes at least had weight. The airport scene was literally 15 minutes of nothing happens. Nightcrawler fucks Angel up really quick in both encounters. Its how a superpowered fight should be. With consequences. Doesnt help that CW fights look like tv tier. Singer at least knows the basics of film making and film language. Everything is framed better, lighten up better, paced better in X-men fights.
I watched the 2 movies again this weekend and frankly X-men wasnt as bad as I remembered it, while CW isnt really as good as I remember it.
Adrian Ramirez
More like MCUcks wanting to get the rights back.
It really damaged their brains that Singer actually did a more colorful, more campy, more funnier movie than the MCU comedies.
They can now only talk about money.
Easton Morris
>0.92€ has been deposited into your account
Nathaniel Fisher
>more colorful The few colorful scenes were from terrible cgi moments. Most of the movie was brown and dark (like CoD). >more campy, more funnier Yeah, watching Magneto kill billions of people on earth was so fun. Just like when Storm tried to kill Jean and Scott. Or when Apocalypse destroyed an entire city. Move over, Zootopia, we got the most fun movie of the year!!!
Hunter Cox
>People in this thread are attempting to defend this eyesore lump of cinema
Eli Thompson
Rotten Tomatoes is an aggregator - I don't know why it even comes up on this board. It only tells you how many critics liked it, it doesn't tell you if they loved it and vice versa.
Anthony Sullivan
>no fun allowed fuck you
Luis Moore
Simple: we kill Disney.
Matthew Robinson
If it's so simple why haven't you done it already?
Bentley Morris
Disney is trash. Fuck your face.
Kayden Hernandez
Should Disney buy them out? They can keep Simpsons running but I rather have them buy Warner Bros.
Wyatt Rogers
You understand this is why the young kids today aren't into Star Wars like we are, they can't get the taste of mediocre shit out of their mouths fast enough to bother being interested enough to go back and see the originals which are good enough to spark fanboy passion. Passed over, it will be too late for them, they will be too old to begin their training. Star Wars will fade away and no one will give a shit about it anymore, like westerns.
Chase Smith
>Profressional critics
Im sure those stuffy assholes love sitting through capeflicks and vidyaflicks.
Adam Robinson
Go away, Max Landis. You're just jelly that people prefer GOOD movies like SWTFA, Thor the Dark World, and Deadpool over your shitty cuck garbage movies.
Jayden Robinson
You have it all wrong.
People don't give a fuck about Rotten Tomatoes.
Rotten Tomatoes is a measure of how much people give a fuck.