I want to cut open shane blacks stomach and gut fuck him. Why is he such a stubborn talentless hack?

I want to cut open shane blacks stomach and gut fuck him. Why is he such a stubborn talentless hack?
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The Mandarin twist was legitimately clever and surprising. It elevated Iron Man 3 from being a generic superhero movie to something genuinely subversive and smart.

Because he's so sure that that was the best possible way to go since it surprised audiences and we all know that all surprises are good.

Sup Forums hates the Mandarin, but jizzes over Harley and Joker

That was probably the greatest, funniest fucking twist ever. Maybe they fucked it up with the Mandarin being a whinny white nerd pissed he got stood up once, but come on that shit with Ben Kingsly was GOAT. Best part is how they fucked with people during interviews.

"I didn't play him as a villain."

Only good thing out of a shitty movie.

NOT MUH MANDARIN!!!!11

Sorry he hated your shitty comic book villain OP. Maybe one day The Mandarin will actually get a decent storyline that doesn't either turn him into a completely different person or just make him Wizard Kim Jong Il.

So he has shit taste, so what? He still generally makes good movies.
>mfw The Nice Guys credits rolled

>from being a generic superhero movie to something genuinely subversive and smart.
people do not want subversive and smart in superhero movies, which is why marvel is usually doing so good at it, because they keep it simple
secondly, it wasn't even that. If was just a twist for the sake of having a twist.

Also, how the fuck else are you gonna explain that weird accent the Mandarin does?

Plus, it's the Mandarin. Who fucking cares about a small character like that?

It was surprising, but nothing about it was clever. In a way, it serves as an analogy to the MCU as a whole: films that lure you into a false sense of belief that maybe, just maybe we'll get a movie that takes itself just a little more seriously ala Winter Soldier and Incredible Hulk. But then you get horsecock slapped by Age of Ultron and it all goes to Hell.

And gave us a boring douchebag billionare villian who was boring as fuck, and didnt give me my mandarin that we fans deserved to see. Cut out your vocal cords, you comic traitor.

>people do not want subversive and smart in superhero movies
Yeah, I guess that's why Iron Man 3 is the most successful Iron Man film to date.

good, it was a great twist in a great movie.

Name your top five mandarin story arcs

Its surprising Yea, but the real one wasn't that good at all. Oh IM's bad guy this time is the generic jilted fanboy/business man.

The Mandarin may sit at the top of the rogues gallery, but even at the time he wasn't Iron Man's most famous enemy. He came in third, after "alcoholism" and "Captain America", in that order.

I do, hes mystical and asian, both which make him cool as fuck. Kys you shittaste bastard.
Talentless hacks never make good movies, shut the fuck up
Wizard kim jong ill is still fucking awsome, you fucking shitbrained retard
He wasnt my mandarin, which is why that fucking cunt shane black should be beaten to death in the streets!

Please when was the last time that walking Yellow Scare was even in a comic.

Marvel hasn't been treating a lot of their own characters with respect for a long time now.

I dont care he was last in a comic. You shut your mouth you cynical fuck. He was based asfuck in the cartoon. So he shouldve been just as cool if not more in the movie.

Your mandarin is a fucking joke. Nothing but a scary Communist relying on mysticism to fight Captain Free Market and his awesome american made tech.

If they switched him out with someone more intimidating/ threatening it might have gone over better with me. But must of all I was looking forward to an epic science versus magic battle, that I'll never get.

>The Mandarin twist was legitimately clever and surprising.

Ahhhh, no. It was a repeat of the twist from Iron Man 1 played for comedy, beat for beat. It's a completely tone-deaf rehash of what the previous property did that reduced an otherwise unique aspect of the Iron Man film, that for once he was facing someone who fought for ideals instead of money or revenge which made him all the more dangerous, to once again reveal it was a rich white guy who wanted money and revenge, just like the previous two movies. It completely robbed the film of any nuance or intelligence in regard to the opposition and his fight against Tony, and all for some cheap toilet humor.

It's not subversive, it's a beat-for-beat rehash of Iron Man 1. At first what seems an attack from a terrorist figure is, twist, revealed to be a figure from Tony's past who commanded said figure to attack him so that it can spur forwards his overall goals of selling weapons to the military for profit, that's all. There's nothing new, but because it was played with a different tone than the dramatic reveal of the first, people thought it unique and new, when all it turned out to be was a director staying in the comfort zone of the well-received and tried and true story of the original, but 'funnier' to have more mass appeal to those who don't like their movies to be so serious.

Comedy instead of character, rich white dude who hates Tony for the villain, over and over again so long as you buy it.

Big budget movies like Iron Man 3 NEED to do well in the foreign market, especially China which only allows a set number of US films a year. China isn't going to okay a movie featuring a yellow peril character like The Mandarin so do Marvel cater to hardcore Iron Man fans who will see it anyway or the millions of dollars in China?

>Marvel hasn't been treating a lot of their own characters with respect for a long time now
Case in point, squirral girl and female thor.

>A different kind of villain than every other MCU movie so far, focused more around intrigue than being a physical threat
>A different kind of menace
>Actually memorable performance
>Magical Trevor
>Sleeping with a gun to his face after taking a really nasty shit

Sure am glad there was a twist. Sure am glad they didn't do Extremis or Mandarin. Sure am glad literally every branch of the government is full of incompetent traitors.

Your nothing but a small dick retard who cant accept how dynamic and cool that type of storyline still is. Fuck off this board if your gonna unfect it with your shit opinions, fucking idiot.

Go be a colossal fag somewhere else, OP.

you can't measure quality by just how much they earn, because you have to take into account things like hype. When the first movie came out, no one knew how big it was going to be. It was just "another random superhero movie" but more people like it than they thought.
By the time the third movie came out, marvel and avengers made it way bigger than it ever hoped to be, so of course all those people now sucked into the hype would watch it, regardless of its quality.

also, as i said, it wasn't even subversive and smart, it was just "what a twist"

Nobody would mind the twist so much if it didn't lead into the same fucking evil corporate scumbag villain they'd already done twice before.

>People still shitting on Based Black
Is it your fault that Marvel can't hire directors with a vision anymore! Thanks to your muh comics muh nostalgia! Edgar Wright will never show his version of Ant-Man.
Enjoy your shaky camera bullshit, sperglords.

Mandarin is boring douchebag Chinese villain. So what?

i liked it too. i wish it hadnt been spoiled for me.
now, unfortunately, who the villain ended UP being was boring and terrible. but the fake mandarin was fantastic.

Why the fuck do people forget about Iron Man Haunted???

Eat my fucking cock you dumbass bitch!
Wow, that type of shit opinions so wafy i can smell it through the screen.

this
basically OP, Disney is hiring a bunch of yes men to "direct" the movies they want to make

...

china is poor as fuck. they arent spending money on movies, they're bootlegging them.

Then they're giving The Mandarin the respect he deserves in line with how he's treated. He's a dumb character who isn't relevant and hasn't been relevant for a long time.

>being asian makes him cool
Get out, tumblr.

Black is anything but based. Hes a retarded bitch hack, who makes shit films, and should be castrated while consious as punishment for his abuse on art.

Tell that to Warcraft.

>who makes shit films
Hey man, I didn't like IM3 either, but don't talk shit about Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.

K, also it's Infect.

Im laughing at you while my qt asian gf sucks my springroll ;)
He deserves alot more respect then a basement dweleing faggot like you
Dude, this is a blueboard, dont post your scatporn on here

>tfw we will never have quality directors like in Phase One.

I'm loving how OP is just playing damage control because everyone else liked or didn't mind the tweest or don't give a shit about the Mandarin.

What else, OP, are you upset that Tony didn't go through with the story about Iron Man being one of his employees? Or ready to riot because Tony is romantically involved with Pepper Potts?

Nobody gives a shit about the Mandarin but you. Get over it.

Kek, you consider that shit movie good?

>Talentless hacks never make good movies, shut the fuck up
I'm sorry, user, but you're either talking out of your ass or you've never seen any of Black's other movies. Hell, from the way you're posting you might not have even seen Iron Man 3.

Just cause he made a shitty comic book movie, it doesn't mean he's a hack or you should murder him. Nice Guys and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang were both pretty good.

You sound like a faggot, OP.

>Shitting on Shane Black.

W E W

Incredible Hulk wasn't serious and arguably the worst thing in the MCU. Eat a dick.

What's the matter? Haven't learned how to spell "dwelling" yet in high school?

You fuckers are shitbrained retards, tasteless fucks who know nothing about art. This is why ill be the only one succesful on this shitboard, faggots!

>I want to cut open shane blacks stomach and gut fuck him.

muh mandarin ;__;

>I don't read comics
opinion discarded. keep watching your cartoons with nostgoggles on tho

The mandarin twist was perfectly executed and shows a great understanding about the relationship between media and the perceptions of it (especially advertisement)

The only reason it flops on its face is because Killian is such shit

Drink bleach you grammer nazi

>"The Mandarin is so cool and was so fucking wasted in this movie"
>no one ever talks about the Mandarin unless it's to complain about this movie

I honestly can't tell if people in this thread are pretending to be reactionary and thin-skinned or really are.

I'm gonna go get a glass of water.

I am entitled as a conic fan to a true adaptation of the mandarin. I felt like shane black was personally shitting on us when that scene came up.

>but he would work on making the actual villain of the story equally as interesting, if not more so, than the faux Mandarin
Add that and I'd be totally fine with his stance

So this isn't a real discussion about Marvel's decision to make the Mandarin a joke, then a fire breather, then a real guy in a story that will never be followed up on.

It's just one guy telling everyone they are idiots with as many cuss words as he can. Well, thats disappointing

You mean.

Drink bleach you grammar Nazi.

Spider-man 3 was the most successful Spider-man movie

people like that one issue where he's a comic book version of kim jong il, as opposed to his previous characterization, though

> co

> conics and contoons

>I am entitled as a conic fan to a true adaptation of the mandarin.

But the Mandarin twist was great though, IM3 was good. You're just salty.

Who drinks water? Fucking commie scum, enjoy your lead poison, I am off to get a super duper Gulp, a one gallon bucket of sweet sweet Mountain Dew

There was nothing wrong with the twist. The real problem is that the real villain was a weak boring as fuck character, while the "Mandarin" was at least a little mysterious.

The entire appereances of Menma Saa on Hellboy among other japanese whitches that Lobster fought.

And guess what? Turns out that Fu Manchu is an incredibly cool archetype.

you are entitled to nothing

Your tears fuel my black heart.

I kind of believe that you are just butthurt from the commie part hitting close.

>subversive and smart

"no"
more like :

"SAVE US CHINA WE LOVE YOU!!!!!!!"- disney

You could do central asia, like they were doing in the movie.

>"SAVE US CHINA WE LOVE YOU!!!!!!!"- disney

My problem wasn't the twist that Trevor. My problem was that Killian was booooooring. He was the most generic villain ever. He had no personality.

On paper, I do like the idea of Mandarin being that fortune cookie.

But in execution, I fucking hated it and most of Iron Man 3 in general.

Should have gone the Knauf's route. That run is ripe for a movie adaptation.

Because it was the third iron man movie.
Spider-Man 3 made more money than 1&2 as did X-Men the Last Stand did with X1&2.

They could of had a potato on screen and it still would have made money.

>give me my mandarin that we fans deserved to see
Are this moron for real?
"fans" are nothing but annoying bitches who whine about everything related to the industry.
You didn't deserve a movie in the first place

>the twist is that the guy you thought was a bad guy wasn't the bad guy but the actual bad guy was the other guy you didn't like and assumed was also a bad guy anyway

nice
fucking
twist

you RED CHINK BASTARD.

Are you retarded? Its obvious bait.

WHY Sup Forums IS SO FUCKING STUPID AND GO FOR THE BAIT? EVERY FUCKING TIME.

>there are cucks who want to give Fantastic Four and X-Men back to these hacks
Kek, kill yourselves

It's the only thing from the movie people seem to remember, so I guess that's something.

The Mandarin twist was fantastic and a lot better than him being the racist Yellow Peril villain he originally was.

The problem wasn't with the Mandarin twist, it was with Killian. Killian is a horrible villain, and they fucked up both Extremis AND AIM hard too. If you replaced Killian with the actual Mandarin, then do the twist, it would have been better, though a lot more obvious.

Your a shittaste fuck who needs to die already.

>>there are cucks who want to give Fantastic Four and X-Men back to these hacks
>Kek, kill yourselves

Fox has literally done nothing of value with FF, and every other X-Men/Wolverine movie they do is disappointing.

Deadpool is all Fox has and they did everything in their power to sabotage it.

>chinese leftists on this very thread ass blasted because they didn't wanted a chinese warlok as a villain, even if the concept is cooler and had more potential.

It doesn't even matter if the comic version isn't that good, the first IM movie was better than most of the publication history of IM, which shows that you can always improve a good concept.

If I was in charge Mandarin would be unexpecified central Asia. He would summon with his alien tech an Old monster buried in the ground, on determined space dragon that you all know. Last act would be all the armors against Fing Fan.

You could even change the little boy that helped Tony with a asian boy from a shitty country, that by the actions of Tony as IM years before, managed to get a better life.

Tumblr please.

Its a fantastic archetype.

Mandarin isn't a good concept, he's THOSE SCARY FOREIGNERS ARE TAKING OVER

sup

Hellboy makes Yellow Peril work. Why being a faggot about it?

Would he make Maya hansen the main bad guy tho? That'd be a good improvement

It'd have been good if they didn't play it for comedy. If it was actually a statement about how we invent our own easy-to-hate enemies to take ownership for the problems we cause ourselves that'd have been good.

They didn't even have to use the mandarin, that statement works perfectly fine with an original fake villain. They also didn't have to make him such a joke. Both of these things were unnecessary, and also what fans seemed to hate most, so why not just skip them?

Hellboy's about devils and monsters and wizards and shit. The highest tech they get is Nazi superscience. That same sort of stuff would be a bit of a tonal clash with bleeding edge billionaire playboy Tony Stark.