The Matrix: An Educated Transhumanist's Perspective

Let's start off by talking about the REAL heroes of the film.

No, not those fucking gothic assholes in the trenchcoats who shoot up banks and police officers just doing their jobs for stupid shit like "muh freedumbs" and "muh realities"

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cracked.com/article_18547_6-reasons-space-travel-will-always-suck.html
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Relax reddit we've all seen the theories on YouTube

>Keeping stupid mankind safe in an age before the liberals took over
Based agents were too good to be real

>transcend into "real" world from literal paradise
>it's a bunch of dirty brown people with dreadlocks having a rave
Cypher did nothing wrong

The machines really are the good guys.

If anything watch the second renaissance from the Animatrix. because all it did was make me hate the "assigned protagonists" even more.

For a synopsis I'll list human crimes.

1. A machine just gained sentience, and killed it's master out of fear for it's own life, a lot of you would do the same. Humans respond by executing the robot.

2. Robots protest, humans react violently. Sure, I don't doubt there were a lot of "robo dindus." But the fact still remains is that humans were just quick to just violent commit robot genocide, rather then just speak with them and hire a fucking mechanic to get the sentience out.

3. Robots build their own nation, and try to just bury the hatchet and make peace with the humans by opening up trade. It shows that even enduring robo genocide and exhile, they are willing to make up and actually still serve men in a beneficial way. Humans shoot them, and declare war on them because they find them to be be an "insult". I dunno human logic.

4. It was the humans who blotted out the sun. I repeat it was the humans who blotted out the sun, causing irreversible ecological damage, probably killing thousands of species of plant and animal life and transforming the earth into a living hellscape straight out of the Crossfire commercial. And for what reason? To deny the robots their solar energy source. The robots they created, in the war that they started with them, that they could have avoided by simply saying "Sure! Just stick to your side of world, and let's just trade goods and make amends!"

5. With the previous facts stated, it can be said that the Matrix was a pragmatic made to salvage what little good could made of the huge shit soup that the humans caused. The matrix powers the robots by using humans as a fuel source, and as a trade off, humans get to live out their life in an average and balanced realistic Second Life, not having to even be aware of the shit they caused.

>Animatrix
Okay...
>it's
stopped reding there

Wow you are a special kind of retard if you believe that.

Arguments for an actual real life matrix.

1. Everyone in the world already lives in their own matrix. To prove this statement right, I provide evidence in politics and real life. Try convincing a libertarian of solutions that involve government intervention. With that in mind, try convincing a socialist of solutions that involves the free market. Try convincing Sup Forums that blacks are people too. Try convincing SJWS that not all instances sexism and racism makes one irredeemable. From an academic perspective. Try convincing a creationist the possibility of evolution. Try convincing a homeopath of the error in their practices. Try convincing an anti-vaxxer of the effectiveness of vaccines. From an anti-academic perspective, try convincing every scientist, engineer, and doctor out there that everything they know is wrong. From the perspective of religious debate. Try convincing an atheist of the probability of a God. Try convincing a theist of the probability of no god. Finally, try to make a "political achievement" through any form of activism.

You will notice that such people in this world get "triggered" or "trolled" and will instantly shut down debate out of anger. You could even get punched in the face!

We live in either the pre-fact era, or the post-fact era. The one thing that is certain is that facts don't exist anymore, only narratives.

Futurama says that Global Warming is a real threat, but South Park says that Global Warming is Manbearpig. But who, is truth?


The one thing that unites these people is that they all see the Matrix the same way, and mold the protagonists in their vision. All except transhumanists like myself, who see the protagonists for what they really are, immature homicidal maniacs who shoot up banks in the name of a phony "rebellion" and get in the way of real progress.

Pic unrelated, but it's what I think of unironic organic matrix fans.

Just stating facts.

Daily reminder that the machines deeply love and care for humans.

Thinking about how Neo stopped thw squiddies in the last movie, I'm partial to the idea that there was actually a Matrix in a Matrix. Neo woke from the inner Matrix, and Smith was first to wake from the outer Matrix.

Except that he's totally correct.

he was able to stop them for the same reason he is superman inside the matrix, he can see their code. he cant explode any random thing in reality, just that which is connected to the thinking machines

nice argument sperglord. animatrix proves humans were the aggressors multiple times.

Arguments for an actual real life matrix.

Just for you bucko.

2. Compared to other science fiction villians, the robots in the matrix are goddamn sweethearts. The could have been like I AM for Harlan Ellison's "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream" and put the protagonists in a simulated hell where they are tortured forever and ever. It could have been like 1984, with an oppressive upper party class stomping all over the proles and the lower class. But they don't, and it was not! Instead, they give a normal mundane modernized existence, just like the one you and I have. If anything the machines were utmost merciful. If I was given the choice between the red pill or the blue pill, I'd happily down the blue pill. But let's say I did get red pilled, out of curiosity, and eventually stumbled upon the Second Renaissance file. Why, that would change my entire perspective, and I would give up the fight. I would honestly accept death if that was the just punishment.

The human protagonists shoot up civilians and the like just for being "sheeple."

Compare and contrast the movie "They Live" which imo is a far better narrative when it comes to these "liberation" stories. In that movie Rodney Piper puts on the glasses, examines cops, and only shoots the aliens. He spares the regular human cops. If it was Neo is that characters shoes, all the cops would die because they'd be guilty by association, and he do it any remourse or hint emotion or you know, what they call "humanity."

theguardian.com/technology/2016/jun/02/elon-musk-tesla-space-x-paypal-hyperloop-simulation

The holders of wealth want me to believe I am living in a matrix. It's really a shame I look queer in a trenchcoat.

This is even more ridiculously impossible than the rest of the movies... Unless he was in something like say, a Matrix.

Agents were really cool, and Smith ate it all.

>the matrix is the only thing keeping humanity from starving to death
>earth was uninhabitable and zion would never be able to sustain all of humanity
>the rebels only objective was to destroy the matrix

the Agents truly did not do anything wrong, they were literally protecting humanity

meanwhile the """heroes""" gunned down innocent security guards and cops left and right who died for real

There was nothing wrong with the Matrix world that wasn't pure necessity. The machines had tried to build an actual paradise before, but the humans just wouldn't get with the program, they needed a realistic environment to live in or they simply wouldn't be able to cope with the perfection, they would reject it. So the world, in The Matrix, was actually literally "The Best of All Possible Worlds."

Think about that. The Matrix, if we are to be believed, was more benevolent than fucking God, because it had limitations but still created the most benevolent system possible instead of creating one full of hardship for funsies. They didn't choose to make corporate America a shithole, humanity did. So with that in mind, these humans are basically living in paradise, their situation is as good as it is ever going to get.

And then some fucking edgelords in trenchcoats with katanas and machineguns come in and literally, LITERALLY try to destroy it. Try to dump them out into what--a sunless nightmare-world of endless tunnels, volcanic nightmares and underground cities full of unwashed starving people. That's what the protagonists wanted.

I don't know if the agents were the good guys, they were just machines and they were callous and cruel, but the "protagonists" were neither protagonists nor heroes, they STARTED the fucking conflict and they dragged Neo into it and brainwashed him. They were antagonists by definition.

Garbage movie series made by two insane trannies

His role as The One was all part of The Architect's master ruse, so he probably had wifi enabled in his implants to allow him to interact with the machines/sense them IRL. If he had his full powers IRL he'd be flying about.

>machine sensor implants
>powerful enough to shut down thousands of robots

Hmm...

t. brainwashed Sup Forums drone who types the word redpill every day of his life and used to love these movies 5 years ago

>have access to the machines network
>can mess with their hardware on that network

Woah.

> Transhumanist's Perspective

I think that should read Transgender's Perspective, OP.

Why do you even bother with tranny propaganda anyway?

>He talks about brainwashing while defending people mutilating themselves because their crazy-brains tell them they have the wrong genitals

No, he's right. Trannies are mentally ill by definition. It is disturbing that they both got hit by it.

He's about 2/3rds right that it's a garbage series.

Or maybe the laws of physics work differently in the real world

That is some incredibly bad network design. Matrix in a Matrix still works better.

>gothic assholes in the trenchcoats who shoot up banks and police officers
Not sure you understand how the matrix works, friend. They weren't shooting up anyone. They were literally fake shooting fake people in a fake digital reality created by the machines.

Fuck, people are stupid.

The architect says they made a nightmare hell world for the humans but they rejected it and lost a tone of crops just like their "perfect" matrix. The current matrix was made because that's how they can keep milking humans not through altruism

>Try convincing SJWS that not all instances sexism and racism makes one irredeemable.

I will if you just fucking kill yourself for being this fucking gay sad pathetic and just down right dull.

>see a decent thread
>it's polluted with retards from Sup Forums spouting boring shit about SJWs and other typical Sup Forums retardation
God I wish you guys could get jobs.

Think they'll ever continue the story or a reboot?

Ugh, like , I know...so problematic

>The matrix powers the robots by using humans as a fuel source,

Fucking movie normie shit.

How can you faggots give a fuck about this tranny propaganda? Are you trying to make the world more degenerate by encouraging our children that this shit is okay?!

We were more advanced in the past than our (((histroy))) makes out. The people in the bottom part of the painting look like they are listening to a radio. That sphere thing looks really out of place also. This was painted in 1595. The Battlestar Galactica remake as an interesting ending also. I think some of the humans walking round today are really like the Cylons. Biological machines.

*history

THIS IMAGE IS PISSING ME OFF

Its the earth. The world is was traditionally portrayed as an orb. Countless depictions of Christ portray Him holding it, surmounted by the Cross. Thats not a radio. Its a monstrance. They can be found at any Adoration Chapel. I literally saw one three days ago.

its photoshopped look at the right side of the screen

>that entire scene in the white room describing literally the opposite was p

OP here, back again to answer some questions and statements.
I wouldn't say that. The Matrix is an extremely influential movie that pioneered new special effects and cinematography while also reshaping the Worldly political and philosophical landscape. Terms like "red pill" are common place, and like I said, everybody from every political compass has cited this movie as a reference in their punditry.

I just happen to root for the directors think are the "bad guys" because as a transhumanist, I agree with them.

I mean transhumanist. A transhumanist is a person who openly welcomes the dawn of machines. A transhumanist is a person that wants to merge with machine in order to transcend humanity into a new evolution. In short, we're cyborgs and wannabe cyborgs, and singularity is our dream.

Also, regardless of the Wachowski's gender status, the true solution to their problem, is the Matrix, or singularity. Because when you're a robot, you can modify yourself anyway you please. You would not have to be an ugly woman as a result of sex reassignment surgery. Just attach or detach a robo penis and you're good.

Also the Matrix can be any reality you want. If you are a man, but you wanted to be a pretty girl, you could be a pretty girl, in the Matrix.

Was this true or just machine propaganda?youtube.com/watch?v=L0K6Cb1ZoG4

The Matrix is like an MMORPG that most people within the story are not aware of.

Now there are versions of the Matrix that are tailor made for certain people. Like the detective in the detective story in the Animatrix. That guy was an old fashioned person, so he got to live in a noir film version of reality.

However, the thing is that people within the Matrix have roles to play out when they are jacked in, and their lives still cross over with other people's lives. Those cops the "protogonists" were shooting were people who were jacked into the matrix and were not freed from the ovum thing. Now, civilians in the Matrix can be overrided and hacked by Agents who are either licensed humans or programs, so that is the "heroes" license to kill civilians because they'd be an absolute danger. But again considering the state of reality, I would just fess up, apologize to agents for breaking the code, and go to my place as an ordinary citizen/fuel source.

I don't consider myself racist or sexist, or at least too racist and sexist.

However, the SJWs, the kind that you see on campuses these days, getting into fights with Sup Forumstard scumbags as "antifas", the lots you see in cringe videos, are a very vindictive bunch who treat any instance of political incorrectness as an atrocity that deserves the ultimate punishment.

Now again, I'm not vouching for racism or sexism, but some instances of it are at least forgivable, and we are all guilty of some kind of predjudice.

I'll start with myself. I have Asian fetish.

And Maddox, King of the Internet, has displayed a little bit of sexism.

youtube.com/watch?v=RovF1zsDoeM

Ultimately, the solution to both racism and sexism, is transhumanism, because robots don't have determined sexes, nor skin colors, and likewise, wouldn't have stupid fights over them. If robots wanted to look a certain way, that could modify themselves to be that way, because they are built, nor grown or born.

This, the matrix that humans "live" in when the movies are taking place is expertly mediocre.

OP here. As a Transhumanist, I am ashamed of such Sup Forumstards and they represent every ugly thing humanity has to offer. I consider them the reason I am transhumanist, because if we were all robots, or robot fuel living out existence in a matrix, there wouldn't be any war except in the case of the absolutely regressive, hence, the "protagonists" in the Matrix films.

Sup Forums like to ironically use terms like "red pill" forgetting the fact that Morpheus was black, and that the freed humans were of all different ethnicity.

While I ultimately disagree with the Wachowski's thesis(humans should break out of the matrix), in that I agree with the agent's thesis(humans should stay in the matrix), I respect their struggle against prejudice.

the real heroes of the film are people that made a matrix for the matrix, so neo can use his power outside the matrix to control machines and it was build by humans so machines think they're the ones being in control so their ai is trapped inside the human's simulation to prevent it from getting out in the real world where it would harm real people, but nah uh, humans are way too smart because they'Re so advanced, they already knew one day machines would become a problem

Arguments for an actual real life matrix.

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cracked.com/article_18547_6-reasons-space-travel-will-always-suck.html

cracked.com/video_18542_why-future-space-travel-going-to-suck.html

cracked.com/video_18604_5-ways-space-travel-will-make-united-airlines-look-luxurious.html

Ultimately, the planet will not last forever. All the animals will die, all plant life will die, either by cosmic radiation, or the sun going out, or water and air becoming too toxic, and humans need to get off the planet.

However, as my links point out. Space is no place for a human to thrive. You cant reproduce in zero G, and terraforming will utmost difficult. Living with less gravity will make you a weak pathetic pulp. So is the fate of all organic lifeforms.

Also, to spite all space travel efforts, humans are strung by racial, sexual, and class divides.

That's why we need sentient AI now. We need a Matrix now.

You see robots don't have to worry about traveling through space. They don't need to breath, they don't need to eat, or drink. And they retain the strength that they have when they are sent into deep space.

But for every action there is an action that precedes it, so automatons of any kind need some sort of fuel, and that's should be cultivated as a fuel source so that machines carry on the legacy of humanity by continuing to study the universe with bare limitations. The matrix would allow humans to be in what you would call a perpetual video game reality, tailor made for the individual, to bide their time until they shrivel up while all the robots do important scientific work. Now if the robots go way beyond place that humans can travel, we can put solar panels on the deeper explorers for their batteries to charge.

futuretimeline.net/

>Arguments for an actual real life matrix.
>a bunch of Cracked articles

Those cracked articles listed a bunch of real scientific reasons why humans can't thrive in space. You need robots for that. Sentient robots can be a way of immortalizing humanity through a successor.

Most of the reasons rellies on zero-gravity being an issue except that it can be solved, not easily, I'll admit it, by artificial gravity using centrifugal force for example. There are many people on earth who would be perfectly fine with a one-way ticket to Mars, so space colonisation is doable from a human standpoint, not anywhere in the near future I'll admit, but still.

What if we get a functionnal warp-drive technology in hundreds of years? Why not after all, look at what we achieved in a 100 years, in the late 1800s most people laughed at the idea of a man on the moon, hell, even just a man in space. Sure: space travel is by far the most challenging thing for Humanity, mainly because we're not designed at all to be into space, but these Cracked articles are so short sighted they're painful to read.

there are real people in the matrix, plugged in and dreaming. if you die in the matrix you die in the real world, you fucking gump

I'm surprised you didn't mention the first Matrix the machine built was designed to be a perfect paradise for humans where no-one suffered and everyone was happy. Humans refused to accept that program.

>The architect says they made a nightmare hell world for the humans but they rejected it and lost a tone of crops just like their "perfect" matrix.

This is completely false.

I liked the 80s MiB look the newer agents had.