Can a Westerner please explain feminism?

Why would a women actively bring more responsibility and work upon themselves?

Feminism doesn't exist here because women don't want to be labor slaves like men, they want to have an easy life where they go shopping with thier girlfriends all day.

I really don't get it ???

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OK listen up now. This is fucking retarded but what you and normal people see as responsibility they see as privilege.

Because they want to earn money themselves and not have to rely on others. They don't want to fuck you every time they want to buy something.
Plus feminism would make it harder for Japanese men to rape schoolgirls on the subway, so that's a bonus.

Not everyone wants that kind of life though, it's better to have a choice and more options.

>la conjuracion del bezelbub...

>absolute state of amerimutts

It's pretty easy to explain you stupid monkey. And it's the same in Japan and Korea too.

1) Women like money

2) The government can be used to give taxpayers' money to women, to force employers to give make-work jobs to women, and to give benefits to women

Women don't like work, most people don't, but they do like money and not having to depend on any individual man for it.

Representative government gives them the opportunity to take money from men collectively rather than individually. They like this because it makes them less dependent on individual men who would otherwise be more likely to make them choke on their dicks or make them a sandwich when they'd rather not.

Relying on an individual man for money also means having to fuck ugly dudes for money which they don't like.

This is all pretty obvious if you think about it for a minute you stupid Jap

So Western feminism originates from the immense sexual needs of western women?

>Why would a women actively bring more responsibility and work upon themselves?
Not everybody prefers to live like a man child. Sure you have responsibilities, but it's still better to live independently than leech on somebody for the rest of your life.
>Feminism doesn't exist here
Sure it doesn't Davido-kun.

Stop being retarded please.

>it's still better to live independently than leech on somebody for the rest of your life.

They are still leeching on society though, by taking jobs that would have otherwise gone to men which reduces productivity, voting in favor of social programs that disproportionately benefit women, etc.

Having to rely on a man to be a good person to you is a massive gamble and you have nothing if you divorce. That's why divorce settlements are so screwy, they area relic of the days when women didn't earn a separate income.

>voting in favor of social programs that disproportionately benefit women

Such as? Why don;t men vote in favour for programs that benefit them like mental healthcare.

Do you actually speak Japanese and live here?

Society is very different from you.

Then how come when I ask Japanese girls I go out on dates with "what's your dream", they say "to become a housewife"

Women here are taught they are strong women if they slave away for Mr. Goldblatt. They are taught this from a very young age. Everything on TV and the movies reinforces this idea. It's crazy how they've transformed society like this.

Single income families were a short thing in the post ww2 to late 50's due to the social circumstances in the world user.

>They are still leeching on society though hurr durr I'm a retard

>Do you actually speak Japanese
No.
>and live here?
Thank god no. I would kill myself if I did
>Society is very different from you.
Not my society no.

They want your money

Or they want you to marry them so they can nag you to earn more money to give to them

It's not that women don't want to get married anymore, they just want to have as many options as possible.

Fucking betas for a while to take their money or staying married and fucking some other guy instead of their husband so they can enjoy bucks + fucks too while knowing that in the event of a divorce they not only have a massive payout but also more job options than ever before are examples of options they have now that they didn't before.

In the old days if you were a woman and married some ugly old fuck for his money you were going to have to fuck him when and where he wanted and if you didn't like it and left him you would probably end up destitute.

Now you can fuck him a few times after marriage and walk away with a cool 50k, and if men start going MGTOW that's fine too because of affirmative action, benefits, and quotas everywhere for women

Utter idiot, it's the RIGHT to take responsibility and carry out a job.

that picture is too obscene

You're not even using the meme right, go back to r/incels.

because it's actually men who force feminism upon women.
Feminism allows you to employ low wages female slaves who think they are strong liberated womyn thus allowing men to live a comfortable life without responsibilities.
Also, smart men can have sex without consequences with a wide range of women.

Because most men are simps and cucks by nature, they can't help caring about women more than themelves.

Society is a massive fertility cult and this is reinforced by milions of years of evolution. 10 women can get fucked and pregant by just one dude, the reverse is not true.

Pussy is just biologically more valuable than dick and this is reflected in how most people think, hardwired.

The odd man that cares about himself as much as society cares about women or even an individual woman cares about herself is considered a sociopathic monster. Think about that.

Are you retarded? Feminism arises because they DON'T want to have sex whenever men want.

You sound too smart to be Korean. English teacher or soldier?

>Women should vo-

maybe you should start saying no to women too if you don't want to have sex

your megalia shit is quite sick, i admit it.
But it's a reaction to your strong patriarchy, amerilards and Europeans cannot understand how it works in Korea.
And it's shit for both men and women, cause the woman gotta spend monies to be prettier whilst the man spends monies to get top notch education and job opportunities.
Chill out fellow koreans.
And think about it: freedom from traditional nuclear family ties. You don't have to do anything.

So the alpha males of society secretly promote it to get laid more often?

Sounds true

those who want to destroy anything inbetween people and government/corporations.
Traditional family protects its members. Women gotta be exploited for production and consumerism.
In this strange and horrible situation men can really be free. Smart men can be free and have fun with women.

They can use their dildos or showers then.

It's not true, the alpha males of society in the 60s were all fucking their secretaries. They can't do that anymore even if the secretary wants it because of feminism.

they can still do it and i'm not talking about alpha males but smart males.
A smart man can have sex with more women nowadays, no commitment expected.

What do you prefer? To frequently have sex with the same woman whom you have to keep and feed at your home or to have sex with different women who don't rely on you for shit and slavework for themselves?

You gotta see the opportunities too.

>Pussy is just biologically more valuable than dick and this is reflected in how most people think, hardwired.

Yet male kids are always more valued? Leif you are right on the continent with 2 states that fucked over baby girls.

Smart *attractive* men can have more sex nowadays because marriage has been degraded, sex has been trivialized, and the internet has made it easy to meet new people. The first two might arguably have been side effects of feminism, but you are missing the other side effect of political correctness.

Women are attracted to men in power, e.g. professors and politicians, and in America at least those men can't take advantage of that anymore without risking their careers.

I shall be saving this picture and there is literally nothing you can do to dissuade me from this action

Sex sex sex sex

Do people even believe in love nowadays?

We truly live in the Kaliyuga

Find your love in Japan

Isn't cheating accepted in Japan?

That's because everyone hopes their son grows up to be Chad. Once they realize he won't be, no one cares about him.

A traditional wife doesn’t leech, she takes care of the kids and keeps the house clean. While also providing sexual pleasure to the husband occasionally.

being a child is great, but when given the chance at having responsibility many children would want to take it

playing video games all day is fun and relaxing, but it doesn't have the same level of prestige as being responsible for running a company that serves an important role in the world

many women want that opportunity

>Traditional family protects its members

Are you serious?

>because it's actually men who force feminism upon women.
Exactly this is what I thought of western feminism. Thanks for reinforcing my theory.

>The first two might arguably have been side effects of feminism

Because woman have to urgency to get married right away?

>sex has been trivialized

If you have no choice in partners then it's trivialized whether it's one being or many.

Because women area burden in those societies.

>A traditional wife doesn’t leech, she takes care of the kids and keeps the house clean.

House chores are not labourous enough to justify fulltime commitment to them. You can do part-time work on the side or help run the family business though

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I'm pretty sure it's just capitalism. Feminism started last century, as opposed to the millenia of written history during which women stayed at home and nobody reported any problem.

Because of the whole ethos of self responsibility that we invented during the Enlightenment. Now, Kant said a lot of bad shit about women but he summed up that whole Zeitgeist pretty well
>Enlightenment is man's release from his self- incurred tutelage. Tutelage is man's inability to make use of his understanding without direction from another.

isn't jav you're biggest cultural export?

>no choice in partners
Who said you had no choice in partners?

Women used to date but would not give up sex easily. Nowadays the norm is to hang out, have sex, and then maybe start considering yourself a couple. That is what I mean about sex as being trivialized.

And honestly I think it's a stretch to blame this culture shift entirely on feminism, but the political correctness cuture is certainly due to feminism.

Non-meme answer:

One of the basics of Western society is equality - Femenism is just the part of it that touches the equality between sexes. Btw Neo-Femenism (what you see now) is a cancer that got nothing to do with the original idea.

There are many women and husband who both work in Japan.
Many families can not maintain their livelihood by husband income alone.

We joke about it, I know guys who brag about cheating, I know girls who defended cheating if the guy was not loving.

But no, it's not accepted.

protecting its member means you have strong ties with it and, of course, lots of duties and rules too.

Because western "men" these days are too much of soy boys to take responsibility and make enough money for both of him and their wife.

>Porn describes how real life society is like

I'm sure American society is just like Blacked.com

Also in Japan, there are many men who can't earn enough money to maintain their family livelihood.
Isn't is pretty much the same around the world?

>implying

Nipponjin are x10 more soyboys - both literally and figuratively.

They've had an equivalent term for soyboys for decades: Soushoku danshi, or herbivore boys

feminists describe masculinity as toxic to modern society while trying to prove that women can be as strong and successful as men

feminists describe men's privilege as structural discrimination towards women while ignoring the majority of blue collar workers in vital industries, which dies of industrial disasters and accidents, is men

feminists and feminism themselves are a series of complete contradictions poorly scrapped from retarded, regressed version of marxist dialectics and their sole purpose is conjugate the arbitrary femist notions like misogyny with shitty dialectics which literally can apply to anything in this world, to rob men's money, simultaneously getting away with responsibilities and dedication once men are supposed to handle

it is

I dont know, i dont talk to people a lot

more and more women buy into this cancerous cult of the pseudo religion with pseudo philosophy these days because they can seem to have a politically correct ideology to make the government and politicians set up dubious affirmative actions and policies for them

the reason why fucking up general statistics is a common characteristic of feminists and their organisation shows it's basically a cult aiming for sterilising men and now we live in a world where feminism is on the moral high ground we all lost

Feminism tells western women they're not worth anything, and they waste their lives if they don't pretend to be men.

read this if you're interested:

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>feminists describe masculinity as toxic to modern society while trying to prove that women can be as strong and successful as men

Wait... What?

They hate musclinity so they try to prove they are strong and indipendent?

The irony is killing me

>I'm sure American society is just like Blacked.com
Pretty much

Good bait. No one is stupid enough to talk seriously about Feminism in Sup Forums... or any subject, actually.

I don't know why clueless people write off these huge essays without at least doing basic research first.
Women have historically voted conservative/more to the right than men

Hubris and unchecked pride.

>Feminism doesn't exist here
you are lucky hiroshi

>Women have historically voted conservative/more to the right than men
How far back are you talking about, because it's absolutely untrue for modern germany.

I can't speak for Germany but here, our left-wing parties had a major 'women problem' until quite recently. It was only once trade unionism had been broken and huge, crass pandering campaigns to women voters took place, that the voting pattern reversed.
I don't know if you can get figures for West Germany from 1950 - 1980, but I bet dollars to doughnuts you would see the same thing.

women want to show that they are capable of achieving