Have terrorists ever been the good guys?

Have terrorists ever been the good guys?

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Depends what you mean by good guys, I guess.

>inb4 some faggot says ira

Some people consider the Americans of the revolutions to be terrorists. In which case yes.

This man killed the next generation of labour party leaders, and bombed the labour headquarters in 2011, saving Norway from becoming West Sweden.

IRA
Hamas
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But they didn't attack civilians. They were just guerillas/partisans.

There's a difference between rebels and terrorists right?

American Revolution 2bh
> committing violent acts for political purposes
Fits the exact description

1776
1812
ANA in shitghanistan
Anti Saddam forces pre 2002 invasion
Anti russia Ukraine forces(current)
Turkish coup participates


Its all about the perspective you look at it from. If you are a pro Isis retard than the "terrorists" are the good guys.

Its OK tho, I wouldn't expect a 14 year old to have any other vision than black and white when it comes to the world or politics.

Yeah I agree. The argument is that they were burning and destroying lots of property.

They lose whatever credibility they might have if they purposefully kill civilians. Killing unarmed targets is cowardly and morally wrong.

This is something I dont understand about Muslim terrorists. Why are they inspired by mass killings of unarmed civilians? I dont think any religion has stooped so low as to draw inspiration from indiscriminate slaughter but Islam has.

According to Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, the terrorists in Syria are mostly moderate democratic freedom fighting patriots

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> muh empire

Haha, get a load of this prison colony mongrel.

Hamas is the arab equivalent of BLM + suicide bombings. They use dindu tactics of starting gunfights and using their women and children as human shields so they can martyr them later.

Hezbollah is based though, uses actual trained soldiers, real tactics, and allows Christians to fight in its ranks.

>implying

Didnt they attack loyalists?

commies

having some dreams of your monkey brothers ruining their olympics?

>that Syria balaclava

Nope. There really isn't. Anyone can be labeled a terrorist. You're striking terror in my Lil heart for assuming my gender. You're a terrorist.

For being spies.

t. still salty descendant of loyalists

What a retarded question. Ask yourself this. Has any war ever been won by the 'bad guy' from the official narrative?

No, because the winners get to write the story. NO ONE has entered a war since Roman times withouth thinking they absolutely had to, and were in the right.

Alexander the Great coud have been a horrible murderous asshole, but he never fucking lost so all we know is how fucking awesome and great he was.


Same thing applies here. Terrorists are by definition, 'bad guys'. The American revolutionaries were terrorists. The rebels who put Castro in power were terrorists. The crusaders were terrorists to Saladin.

But now, they're all heroes because they all won.

No, unless Putin says otherwise, faggot.

In Final Fantasy VII.

George Washington was a good guy

Loyalist civilians weren't targeted (without provocation) by the American rebels during their revolution as far as I know, but many loyalists did flee from the new Union to settle on British clay in what is now Canada.

Let's set some ground rules here, buddies. Terrorism is the warfare philosophy of committing acts explicitly for the purpose to invoke maximum fear in ones enemy without any regard for decency or ethics. In no sense can the political protests, no matter how violent, of Brits against Brits in an era where duels were commonplace upon insulting honor and most battles were performed by standing in a line, waiting for the enemy to shoot at you and then courteously firing back was terrorism.

Except anti-Russian forces are vad and the Turkish coup people are bad

Terrorists attack civilians.

Rebels target military, that's basically the difference.

>TFW people think you're weird because you argue the USS Cole bombing wasn't technically a "terroris"t attack.

tbf there is no convincing argument against "one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist." when it comes down to it what terrorism is depend entirely on the ideological coordinates of the person categorizing the individual or organization in question, which leads to a parallax on the same subject/object

people object and point to the (at times conflicting, mostly similar, but never the same) criteria of terrorism by the various federal agencies, departments, and definitions enshrined in law in other countries, but every single criteria can be carried out by a "freedom fighter"

also the legal definitions of a guerrilla is different from terrorist, however, guerrilla fighters are easily accused of terrorism, and terrorists are often defended as guerrillas

I don't know american history, but ISIS is scum.

If racked my head round finding at least one example and it's slim.

There's no clear cut case, but the closest ones are the kebab removers and the also the few terries who attack each other.

>The government is afraid of the guns people have because they have to have control of the people at all times. Once you take away the guns, you can do anything to the people. You give them an inch and they take a mile. I believe we are slowly turning into a socialist government. The government is continually growing bigger and more powerful, and the people need to prepare to defend themselves against government control.[

We don't have weapons here, but keep them, I don't really care, the battle field is if you are morally right, and ISIS is scum.

>Once you take away the guns, you can do anything to the people.

anything except make them work, or work productively

slow downs, intentional sabotage, etc, even under the gun the productive capacity of an empire as expansive as the united states can be obliterated in a matter of weeks if a sufficient threshold of workers participates in an indefinite general strike

this is bait children

Union man, much.

When Tim left the bomb truck in front of the Murrah Building that morning, bystanders said that the children in the building daycare window were waving at him. They are all dead. Tim got a nice death. Too nice.

>Stalingrad

Majority doesn't care about guns, you marxist you.

>Have terrorists ever been the good guys?

Yes.
one of them cleansed an orlando night club of its sins.

Everyone is someone's villain

No. By definition.

They are generally weakly supported factions which attack civilians in order to force political objectives. They are the enemy of the non-aggressor, and as such, are cowards.

That's not a very Christian thing to say. Are you really a Puerto Rican or are you a Muslim? Do they have Muslims in Puerto Rico or are you on a proxy?

There are no good guys in the real world.

Most rebels/freedom fighters kill soldiers goverment figures and colaborators, only terrorists murder women and children

My nigga

yep. france 68. it'll happen again. hopefully it'll take next time

Considering how much of a clusterfuck Palestine is thanks to British foreign policy, Hamas is okay-ish. They spend 95% of their budget on social programs.

Yes, after and including 9/11.

ITT: people who don't know what the definition of terrorist acutally is vs the pc definition of "terrorist"

Terrorists are never the good guys. Terrorists attack civilians to create fear.

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This assumes that civilians are always innocent.

Just saying this before Turkish Kurds and Kemalists start in the "Neo-Ottoman Empire"

It's only terrorism when you're attacking civilians or going to war without proclamation.

Armed forces fighting the forces of a government only, after having declared their intention is not terrorism.

Just about anything else is.

At least reply to op. faggot.
It's not by definition, hillary, that would be little easy. english loser bum. Didn't read the rest of your post.

>Hamas need money fo dem programs

You don't attack rank and file civilians, ever.
You attack those who are armed and willing to fight, those who are official and/or active agents of a government, military or commanding body you are against.

Otherwise, yes, you are a terrorist and should be executed.

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I don't think you're familiar with the concept of a "total war".

I'm sure OP can read his own thread.
Yes, literally by definition, its an act committed to produce fear and submission which is abhorrent and indefensible.
You are belgian - thats insult enough.
And yes, you did read all of my post.

chiquita paid the auc (some of the death squads which were absorbed into it) about 1.5 million dollars, some of that after the state department declared them a terrorist organization. the us never stopped selling arms to colombia, and the colombian state allowed the auc to kill with practical impunity for years.

they assassinated a lot of union reps, teachers, targeted indigenous people in colombia because they associated indigenous people with leftist politics. probably around 10 or so people were eventually extradited to the us to face trial, but the tens of thousands of auc got out with a slap on the wrist. most of it still exists in disparate groups the colombians call bandidas or some shit like that.

the farc would kill these guys whenever they encountered them. the same could be said vice versa, though the farc also fought against the colombian state. the farc was and still is the government in a large swath of villages in colombia. the farc's done some nasty shit, too.

but if you're a villager who gets no say in the colombian government, and live on a border between farc held territory and auc dominated territory, you don't really have the luxury of washing your hands of all three groups

besides, i can't think of a single western state that hasn't committed or materially supported actions that meet their own legal criteria of terrorism

none of these institutions are good, all of them are differing shades of not good

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>V32zZuEs
they are in general weakly represented
how do you know that ? they might be strongly represented?

>IRA
>good

Socialist cucks who would support muslim immigration. Explicitly targeted protestant civilians, no different than ISIS.

American terrorists during the revolution.

They did loads of terrorist type things.

>pro Israel

I have no clue what that strange green text means

Come one, general Lynch, don't leave me hanging here. Or maybe do.

yeah britain really fucked up in that 12 years they had palestine

>canada

retard why nobody likes your country reread your post

Gues, lynch mob guy silent now.
Kill threat, confirmed kill.

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This OP

>hasn't seennarcos
el chapo, for one.

the IRA were the good guys im pretty sure

Nope. Just by using terror to get what you want, you're acknowledging that what you want would never be granted by anyone not scared out of his/her mind, in the same way posters that declare themselves girls admit that they can't get any attention using their intelligence or humor and have to resort to playing the v-card to get it.

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There was a video circulating awhile back from a homeland security training class/workshop (2004ish? I forget) where they went over this. Our govt would/does consider the founding fathers terrorists by their definition. When they say "rebels" when referring to a group, it just means they approve of this group of terrorists for whatever reason so won't use that nasty word to describe them. The two terms are interchangeable depending on how the group fits into our foreign policy at the time. For example, the Muj in Afghan are one group that had the term flip-flop on them depending on how our govt felt at that time.

You guys were fighting a colnial power back then.
Syrians a fighting american hegemony.

Yes. American Revolution. The British called the Founding fathers terrorists. Most of them weren't some were pretty damn radical like Sam Adams. He was the type to burn down the barns of Loyalists and shit like that.

in the 1985 movie Brazil, you root for the terrorists

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Waco.

They were in 1776

That time they killed jews at the Olympics

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The bundies as well.

Really, you want me to be the islamist guy, telling you I'm genuine freedom fighter I could be, you fuck american swine.? (he said jokingly)

The act of terrorism as "Causing terror" is inherently an evil/bad act.

Why do people confuse Guerilla Fighters/Rebels with Terrorists?

When they kill jews then yes

I think majority world idea, get out of being polceman is geting traction.

the primary victims of Muslim terrorists are other Muslims. They do not give a fuck.

Get out of my country Ahmed.

I would just tell them, join your muslim bros. Not bomb them.

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It looks like his unabomber manifesto is becoming true...