So you read comics, user? Can you recommend me some?

>So you read comics, user? Can you recommend me some?
>Okay, what kind of stuff do you want to read? Is there a specific kind of character?
>I dunno, can you recommend me some?

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Sometimes someone just doesn't know what they'd really enjoy. Like if you are in the mood for a movie but not sure what or are getting back into games but just want something good and don't have a particular preference.

So they want to get into capeshit but don't even know where to start or what the basic archetypes are.

Where's the problem?

Like, if you'd asked them "Would you prefer a space-oriented story kinda like Star Wars with more superheroes, or some badass tooling around New York fucking up sex slavers?" I bet they would have had an answer. But no, you had to be autistic.

Make no mistake, I did end up getting more specific in order to help them find something, but it's just a pain to have to go so out of your way to recommend things to someone because they've put almost no thought into what they want to get into and dare counting on you to basically do all the work for them.

>put almost no thought into what they want

And there you go with the assumptions again, user. Jesus christ.

People aren't born with a goddamn knowledge of what goes on in capeshit. In fact I'd go so far as to say it's weird and off-putting to most folks, so the vast majority of people, no matter how much ~effort~ they put in, still would arrive at about that fucking point.

Loving Christ are you really that ill-adapted to socialization?

In these cases, recommend something soul shattering.

>reading for a specific character
this is why American comic books are dying.

>What is Blacksad

>work
nigga as the designated friend/aquaintence in the group they think you're encyclopedia of info and as a friend/aquaintence they expect you to be able to give them something they would like as a starter. It's what friends do

*as the designated friend/aquaintence who reads comics

Except he's an autist, so he probably assumes he's smarter than his acquaintances-- God knows folks like that don't have friends-- in every single way, and doesn't make use of them like that.

Fuck off, man. Sometimes I have shit I'd rather be doing than being a comic book version of Google for people to bounce questions and requests off of. It's got nothing to do with autism or being poor at socialisation and everything to do with "come on, I don't just want to sit here for 30 minutes racking my brain for every comic I can remember reading that you may possibly be interested in while you sit there saying "no, not that, do you have anything else?"

It's got nowt to do with friendship, it's just them using me as an accessible resource which stops them from having to do any research themselves. I'm not obligated to be super enthusiastic about having to put together a list of comic books for people to read whenever they get an urge to deviate a bit from the MCU and Wikipedia articles.

It's not my fault I'm not a fucking pussy doormat and they deserve to be pulled up a bit on for not putting any personal effort into trying to get into comic books despite their supposed interest.

If someone came up to me and said "Hey, I'm really into the Punisher after Daredevil S2, have you got any recommendations" I would have no problem telling them about some good stuff I've read, but it's a hassle when someone's just like "hey, so comic books are cool but I don't know what I like and I have no interest in clarifying my preferences, give me some recommendations." Am I supposed to just start reciting comic books I've read like an encyclopedia and hoping that one of them strikes a chord. Give me something to work with.

>"hurr, stop making assumptions"
>assumes I'm an autist with no friends because it annoys me somewhat when people don't put thought into the kind of stuff they're interested in before coming to me for recommendations.

Even if they just said "I like stuff that has a lot of action/romance/violence" it would be fine and help narrow things down a bit. You don't even have to be knowledgable about comic books, just put some basic thought into the kind of things that interest you so it's not just google: the conversation.

You can act like a salty nigger about social obligations all you want, user, but it doesn't change them.

>social obligations

Man, helping someone move houses or doing your bros a solid are social obligations.

Being an encyclopedia of information for people to lazily squeeze stuff out of is not a social obligation. The fact that you think otherwise indicates that you're the kind of guy who does that to his friends with no consideration for them.

After a point it's just being respectful towards the other person. I might have a friend who's big into sports, but if I want to go into sports, I'm not going to go up to him and say "hey, I don't know anything about sports at all and I'm not going to tell you about what kind of sports I like. Can you please tell me which sports team I should play and explain all the rules of the sport to me?" I'm going to look up sports in my own time, see which one looks most interesting to me, try and get a grasp for the basic rules and then ask my friend to expound upon that information.

Maybe start a conversation with your friend?

Sounds like you're the one with the problem if you're getting this defensive

PROTIP: Sup Forums's anti-recommendation mentality makes you look like a retard in the real world

To be perfectly honest, the guy isn't even someone I'm very close to. He's more of a friend of a friend than anything else, so I don't really know much about him. That makes thinking of what he'd like harder than it would be if I was actually friendly with him.

It's starting to sound like you got told where to shove it the last time you posted a "lol what anime do I watch" thread on Sup Forums or something and have since gotten overly defensive about people relying entirely on others when it comes to recommendations the more this argument goes on.

It's not like I refused to recommend things to him, I just got privately annoyed that he didn't make any attempt to consider what he wanted before coming to me to make me do the work for him, which you've clearly interpreted as "REEEEEE NO SPOONFEEDING GTFO NORMIES REEEEEEE"

>"Okay, here are some comics."
>"Thanks."
>weeks later
>"Hey, did you read those comics I gave you?"
>"Nah."

Comics are more than capeshit. If they want to read cape comics, then they need to specify that.

And most casuals DO NOT FUCKING KNOW THIS.

>the responses in this thread

fuck, this board has gotten so normie/tumblr it hurts

Look man, I doubt he's purposly trying to make it harder for you. Going by your OP he didn't have a specific character in mind and was just looking for something to read.

I don't know you or him but what I would have (and already have) done is pass him some good comics, comics that I personally like and can vouch for, and that have done pretty good with wider audiences in general if that makes sense.

I gave my classmate a few different comics and when I asked which they liked the best (Spider-Man) I worked from there with more Spider-Man. It was no big deal or waste of time for me, but again I don't know you

I'm and to clarify:

Capeshit is the fucking default in America. I'd actually be impressed if a casual knew about indie shit, and consider it a sign that they'd done their fucking research, and it wasn't just a casual question, but that I was being used as a fucking resource.

Y'know, exactly what the OP wanted in the first place.

I did ultimately just give him some ones I liked and hoped that would be enough, but this was after he turned down three of my suggestions while refusing to say why or what kind of stuff he was looking for.

Like I said, you don't really need to have a specific character in mind, but even a genre or kind of story you're into would help things along.

This is actually way more annoying and legitimately shitty than OP's whining. Can we talk about this instead? Because this is crap and has happened to way more people who aren't autistic.

>but this was after he turned down three of my suggestions while refusing to say why or what kind of stuff he was looking for
Why didn't you say that in the first place? I'd be annoyed too. Did he ever come back after you gave him some?

Not him, but I don't get what's so difficult about specifying a bit more? I mean, if you want to ask for recommendations for, say, a movie, you usually name off genres you like ("I like sci-fi movies, can you recommend me any?"), same thing with comics.

Also, I don't get this fixation with characters you keep mentioning, you do realize that comics are more than just superheroes, right?

But user if it was only 3 suggestions then why did it take 30 minutes like you whined about up above? Are you a rere?

99% of normies who would ask that fucking question don't, and let's face it, indie shit is fucking shit. If I see another fat old 30-something wankstain write another autobio comic, I will laugh and laugh and laugh. What else is there? Love and fucking Rockets? Gee, what a fucking thrill. Oh, Blacksad! Let's go read about fucking furries!

(Amusingly enough, my favorite ongoing is Manifest Destiny right now, but pretending indie comics aren't just as fucking crap as capeshit is nothing more than a funny meme.)

I gave him Spider-Man comics, Ash vs the Army of Darkness comics, some story where a boy goes to a fantastical ghost city and fights an evil ghost made out of buildings, and a vampire story I enjoyed called Life Sucks. He chose the Spider-Man. I mentioned the character because I was telling a story.

How about something where I don't have to wash my hands every time I turn the damn page.

>Why didn't you say that in the first place?

I didn't think I'd be attacked and labelled an enraged autist for expressing minor annoyance at something like this, but I guess that's neo-Sup Forums for you.

>Did he ever come back after you gave him some?

Not just yet, no.

Really, I enjoy discussing comics and recommending stuff to people, but it's annoying when someone is simultaneously unwilling to clarify what kind of stuff they want and quick to say "no, I don't want that"

fuck off

I'm not saying OP's response is appropriate, it just pains me that you automatically assume the person asking wants to read capeshit.

If I started yammering on about any of the bullshit I listed up above, I'd get looked at and told "But user I was asking you about comic books."

I don't think you realize just how irrelevant and unknown indie comics really are stateside. You've been here too long.

Well, yeah, no shit they're unknown, but if the person is asking for a recommendation, then they probably want more than capes. Especially if they can't specify, because otherwise they could at least manage to mention whichever character they liked most from the most recent movie or tv show or whatever.

>I didn't think I'd be attacked and labelled an enraged autist for expressing minor annoyance at something like this, but I guess that's neo-Sup Forums for you.

That's pretty much all of Sup Forums and always has been, ya damn retard.

"But user, these are not comic books. These are old fucks whining about shit with ugly pictures. I want comic books."

I'm not even joking. This is how people react to indie shit. They're just looking for different and "better" capeshit, not realizing that the quality is rarely anything but gutter-level.

>EVERYTHING SUCKS!
You just sound like a bitter person in general, to be honest.

Why not just tell them its like regular books, dozens of genes and to think of something specific.

There is a difference between casual examples in the course of conversation and flat out naming runs for yes/no response.

Get your Sup Forums shit outta here, board motto used to be Sup Forums is love

I guess I have smarter friends than you, Satan.

I did ask him to think of something specific and explain that there's a lot of different stuff, but all he could say is "I dunno, can you give me something good?"

Smarter friends who read Love & Rockets and Blacksad, amirite?

Go read some Nikolai Dante and grow a nuthair or two, wankstain. 2000 AD shits all over this entire conversation.

>Fuck off, man. Sometimes I have shit I'd rather be doing than being a comic book version of Google for people to bounce questions and requests off of.

You know, in the time it took you to type this entire post, you could've gave your friend a recommendation. Just saying.

I gave him a recommendation.

What's so difficult to understand about this?

If someone tells me "I want to read some comics," and doesn't go any more specific than that, I'm going to assume they're a casual who thinks all comics are capeshit. I'll try to change their mind about that, but I remember when I was a casual and thought the same thing.

The fact that you're still here whining about how you're not a living Google.

He posted before reading the whole thread

By this point it's less about that and more that I keep getting called autistic for saying "hey, it's annoying when people come to you for recommendations but have no idea what they want, isn't it?"

Well, maybe you should quit saying autistic shit. Lots of love.

fuck off

this board's the fucking worst now

>So you read comics, user? Can you recommend me some?
>Okay, what kind of stuff do you want to read? Is there a specific kind of character?
>I dunno, can you recommend me some?
>Well, what sort of stuff do you enjoy in movies and television shows? What sort of stuff do you enjoy in games? What sort of stuff do you enjoy in books?
Comics are a medium. Ask them about what they enjoy in other mediums.

Or:

Drama can be avoided if you just have a predetermined list of generic recommendations that you can hand to people who refuse to tell you about their tastes.

recommend no hero things, usually
people thing capes are bad, so I usually go for things about fells, like Maus, or From Hell, dunno

Decent, boring, edutainment, started off decent but went nuts

Crap, crap, not read it, not read it

And everything on the bottom appears to be wanky French shit. Oh, and Love and fucking Rockets right there at the end! Goddamn, it's like a fucking free Bingo square at this point!

GEE WHAT A WONDERFUL LIST user, NOT PRETENTIOUS AND BORING AT ALL!

(In all seriousness, though-- Indie comic fans are fucking pretentious, fucking predictable, and they ignore the good shit in favor of offering up shit that might one day get noticed by senpai and accepted as "art.")

N- no, smarter friends who don't dismiss everything they don't recognize as non-comic books.

You don't have any friends, do you? What are you doing in a thread about recommending shit to friends?

Then you did right thing. If you can't even be bothered to figure out that you want to read about sports, drama, batman, old west, etc. Then clearly you don't really give a shit.

Why these anons are going spaztic to find good reads for a friend of a friend is beyond me.

Okay, so what do you actually consider great? Oh wait, are you the guy who said Manifest Destiny is his favorite comic out there right now? Which, more power to you, I like it too, the art is god-tier, but would you really consider it better than Cerebus?

>fucking pretentious, fucking predictable
Look in a mirror.

I've helped motherfuckers move, it's a pain in the ass. If you think shitting out a title for someone to read is harder than holding a couch inside a car moving on a highway, I think you're the one with a problem.

Guess we've found the real autist.

It's the principle.

Helping someone move is okay because it's you and that person working together towards a goal.

The example I posted just shows that the person is just lazily using me as some sort of repository for information rather than expressing a genuine interest in comic books that we can mutual connect over.

Given just how off the fucking rails Cerebus went? Yes, I think that taken as a whole, it's likely to be a better complete work of art in the end. Hard to tell since it ain't finished though. There's always time and room for a fuckup if the story ain't over.

I'd concede that there are better Cerebus issues as far as art or writing go. Largely because Cerebus is a fucking massive work in comparison. Longevity will inevitably breed some form of quality.

I think the age of great comics is over, honestly. The Mignolaverse and 2000 AD are winding down. Nikolai Dante and (to an extent) Judge Dredd held down indie books and raped the shit out of them by sheer ambitious storytelling. Twenty fucking years of watching that Russian fucking bastard age and fight, and I'm supposed to be impressed by people getting old in Love & Rockets? Come on. Fucking Funky Winkerbean did it first.

As far as "pure" indie comics that were good? Kill Your Boyfriend encapsulated more of teen angst and hatred of society than any of the shit that's held up for it, IMO, and gets wildly shit on here for that reason. Orbiter was a fucking well presented if simple and short scifi story, though that might have been put out by a DC imprint, too lazy to check. And there was a North Korea travelogue comic storytimed here not too long ago that was fucking brutal as hell and made me think about where the animation I watch fucking comes from.

Oh, and Maus was good, but I think it's held up as high art when in reality it wasn't that damn special.

They're asking for you to share your taste with them. Kind of like, "Hey, what are some good movies you've seen lately?" or "Hey, what kind of music do you like? Any you can recommend?"

Only because they don't know shit about comics, they're phrasing it in a way that shows they're also asking for an introduction.

Think about what you've read and liked, and give them the most straightforward shit from that, that you can. Easy peasy.

Oh hey, I was actually going to mention Delisle (the guy who did Pyongyang). Love his work. His Jerusalem is great too, though less brutal, and more just ironic and a bit depressing.

>And there was a North Korea travelogue comic storytimed here not too long ago that was fucking brutal as hell and made me think about where the animation I watch fucking comes from.
Pyongyang: A Journey in North Korea, by Guy Delisle. He has other comics too about living in Burma, Shenzhen and Jerusalem. If you like his work then why didn't you look up more?

Shit, user, you've barely scratched the surface but you're acting like you're a fucking expert.

Thank you, I've been wondering what that dude's name was for a while now and didn't want to just start hammering in random Best Korea related search strings into google over and over.

> doesn't know how to talk to people

Because I didn't like it enough to go read the author when he's yammering on about yellow people I am not interested in. Kind of straightforward. He did well with that topic. I am not interested in the other shit he wrote about, with the POSSIBLE exception of Jerusalem.

And oh, I can't remember your one fucking pet author, I've still read more fucking Moebius than you. (Overrated. Seriously fucking overrated. God tier art, granted, but that's all. And writing > art any damn day.)

>Funky Winkerbean did it first
>Since its inception on March 27, 1972, the strip has gone through several format changes. For the first 20 years of its run, the characters did not age, and the strip was nominally episodic as opposed to a serial,
Don't embarrass yourself.

I just recommend Love & Rockets to people. Generally no one actually reads it but at least somewhere down the line they can say, "oh, I've heard of Love & Rockets before!"

Oh, shit, I stand corrected, I thought Funky had been doing that since the 80's.

This is what ou gente for reading shitty poorly draw western comics when you could be reading mangá with good story, themes and art.

>yellow people I am not interested in

But try harder, chinkachong.

I know. You often speak about comics which you don't know anything about.

...

Oh? Anything else I've said that's wrong, or are you just butthurt because I've insulted your precious indie comics?

(Or are you one of those cute little kiddies that wants them to be separated into European indie works and Underground "comix"?)

Just list a few books from different genres that you enjoy. What is the fucking problem here?

Silver Surfer
The Metabarons (with $100 deposit)
The Contract with God trilogy

>Anything else I've said that's wrong,
Well, since you ask, you thought Frank is French, but that's such a minor nitpick, I didn't think it was worth mentioning until now.

What's your excuse for being butthurt though? Do you ever get tired of telling people not to recommend comics because everything is shit? You're the only person in the world who has your own unique tastes, so it seems like such a waste of time for you to use your tastes as an excuse to shit on other people sharing their tastes.

>the bus
>boring
>A Contract with God
>not read it
>Frank
>wanky French shit

What's it like to be stupid?

This pisses me off too. It's one of the things that lets you know just how lazy people can be when it comes to getting into a hobby.

>so it seems like such a waste of time for you to use your tastes as an excuse to shit on other people sharing their tastes.

Holy fucking shit the irony.

You do realize that people who love indie comics are some of the most holier-than-thou fuckers around, right?

>and didn't want to just start hammering in random Best Korea related search strings into google over and over.
When I search for "North Korea comic", it's the #1 result.

google.com/search?q=north korea comic

Holy shit, you're pathetic.

Mmm, apple pie and free links are delicious.

>You do realize that people who love indie comics are some of the most holier-than-thou fuckers around, right?
Some are, some aren't.

But in this particular thread, you specifically are the most negative, arrogant and presumptuous person here. You are worse than that which you supposedly fight. You gazed into the abyss and the abyss gazed back.

For the sake of everyone else, find another hobby, please.

Nope.

At this point, I enjoy what I enjoy, and I also enjoy the fact that my tastes piss off certain folks who go to great lengths to think that they're better than me because they read boring comic books instead of entertaining ones.

Your tastes don't piss anybody off.

What pisses folks off is your behavior; when other people are sharing their tastes, and your immediate response is to tell them how much they piss you off.

isn't trying to act better than you, but sure is doing its best to act superior to everyone else.

Except I'm not saying their tastes piss me off. I'm saying their tastes are crap, and that they're idiots for liking stupid shit.

Which is exactly what is said to me every single time a capeshit vs indie discussion comes up. It's funny that only one side can handle the bantz, and it's supposedly the immature side.

>implying capefags can handle the bantz
cuckchan.org/co/thread/80920631/#80920631

And hell, I read a LOT of capes. Loving Rebirth.

[Laughs]

To be fair, I'd say I'm embarassed by capefags by this, but I'm too busy laughing at it all. This dude's whining butthurt over having lost his little culture war caused capefags to get butthurt in turn. It's like pottery.

>[Laughs]

He's quoting the article.

a mediocre comic saved by great art.

Okay, completely fucking granted, and I both hate furry art and am the belligerent cunt you're replying to.

To me, this also describes every fucking thing Moebius ever fucking made.