The morality of homestuck

After everything that's happened, what was the moral of Homestuck?

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Suicide is always an option.

Homestuck contradicts all of its morals.

its totally hot to fuck your siblings

the moral of the story is "thanks for playing"

it's okay if your life sucks because there are hypothetical circumstances where your life might have been pretty okay

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Watching movies and playing video games won't make you talented.

Being in a gay relationship will fix all of your mental problems.

Assholes always win in life.

Don't let your greed for tumblr tween buxx hijack your story.

OR

Don't introduce more characters than you'll have the time or patience to develop and use.

OR

Just read Problem Sleuth and skip this tire fire entirely.

Milk from your clueless audience as long as possible and poison the minds of many for your benefits

Somewhere in paradox space, a version of you is not a fuck-up and has actually done something useful with their life.

This is true for all but Karkat.

This user pretty much nails it yeah.
>tfw act 1 till 4 was awesome and it completely got fucked up during act 6.

Don't start what you aren't sure how to finish?
has some nice lessons too.

In hindsight I never realized how much of an unintentional fuck you that "Thanks for playing!" was until just now.

It's not your cow so you're not allowed to be mad when someone kicks it.

that man is abusing his story without conscience
you know what they say about that
it's a sign of a potential serial killer

Y'know that quote from The Matrix, about how you can't really change the future because you've already made the decisions in the future?

Probably that.

>abusing his story
>a serial killer
eh? eh? anyone?

>moral could have been a simple thing such as "go outside and have an adventure and take 4iaks instead of staying in your own isolated little world feeling, you know, homestuck.
>moral could have also been that it's okay to feel ennui in this situation, but to appreciate what you have and those around you and to remember that you're talking to people billions of miles away and forming a nice relationship and how that's a beautiful thing
>and it could've just been a simple hero's journey story about all the kids feeling like they were part of something bigger but stuck in their respective shitty lots in life and eventually getting out and having just a really great grand Ole adventure of a lifetime

Homestuck could have been something beautiful, lads

Don't spread yourself too thin by multitasking on more projects than you can handle

Keep up communication on projects taking longer than promised and during long hiatuses

Ooh, can I change my answer?

I want to add "Shipping is fucking cancer." as a nice lesson to learn.

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It could have been so great

>homestuck used to be good once
>more than good, it used to be great

WEle all k ow where it went wrong, but why?

Why did it have to be like this? Why did it have to be this way?

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He chose the gullible teenagers with their parents' credit cards instead of his original fans.

Free will doesn't exist and none of your choices matter. You have no freedom at all.

IT'S NOT FAIR
IT'S JUST NOT FAIR

IT COULD HAVE BEEN SO FUCKING GOOD
IT COULD HAVE BEEN A BEAUTIFUL COMIC THAT CAPTURED THE COLLECTIVE FEELINGS OF ENNUI AND LONGING FOR SOMETHING MORE THAT WE'VE FELT FOR GENERATIONS
IT COULD HAVE BEEN SOMETHING SPECIAL AND WONDERFUL WITH COOL MEANINGFUL STORIES AND CHARACTERS WITH INNOVATIVE AND INTERESTING STORYTELLING

AND ALL WE GOT WAS

TRASH
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At least we got some good porn out of it right

>The streets are empty. Wind skims the voids keeping neighbors apart, as if grazing the hollow of a cut reed, or say, a plundered mailbox. A familiar note is produced. It's the one Desolation plays to keep its instrument in tune.

>It is your thirteenth birthday, and as with all twelve preceding it, something feels missing from your life. The game presently eluding you is only the latest sleight of hand in the repertoire of an unseen riddler, one to engender a sense not of mirth, but of lack. His coarse schemes are those less of a prankster than a common pickpocket. His riddle is Absence itself. It is a mystery dispersing altogether, like the moon's faint reflection, with even one pebble of inquiry dropped in its black well. It is the most diabolical riddle of all.

>"Absence diminishes little passions and increases great ones, as wind extinguishes candles and fans a fire." -Walt Whitman

>Yes, you are certain Walt Whitman said that. One hundred percent positive.

>You have a feeling it's going to be a long day.

Act 5 was the point that doomed Homestuck, basically because Hussie got too enamoured with the trolls and the fan reaction to it. He hit the mystical Sonic OC equation, then rather than let them be minor characters that do their bit and shuffle off of the main story they hung around forever. Then he tried to do the same thing again with another set of kids, only these ones were even less interesting. Then another set. Then another set, each one losing more of what had made the kids and trolls compelling in the first place. Then bringing back some of the original characters whose arcs had completed satisfactorily in order to recapture the initial buzz (failing because that buzz relied on the early context, now lost). Then he tried rebooting the troll dynamic with two new characters, who were, respectively, angry Karkat and plot-dumper (one of several plot-dumper characters, in fact, so even more of a failure).

Simultaneously getting infected with Tumblr brain diseases from his new fan base making him want to deliberately alienate the older Whistles/Humanimals/PS-era fans, losing interest in the story of Homestuck, depression, his personal life going off track and being a complete moron about the whole kickstarter debacle killed any momentum there had been, turning what had been a fast-paced constantly inventive story into a dirge about self-absorbed arseholes.

deviantart did nothing wrong

You know, it's been literal years since I read that and when I did I was a young lad who didn't know how to read into literary things that well. And resding this now...

Jesus, that's beautiful. The only other time I've felt something that deeply cutting into a characters feelings was that one story with guts and the little flower fairy, just a random flashback after his life has been ruined where he just reminisces about being a kid without dreams, long ago.
Postan some music to accommodate these feels
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>not really charmed by static white rooms with blank characters
>idly clicking page after page until i get to this one
>immediately hooked
>got into homestuck pretty much solely for hussie's writing style, fucking incredible prose and character dialogs
>five years later take the ultimate cucking in a silent end of which hussie didn't write anything, didn't draw the panels or even plan/care about the character interactions being depicted

This

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BHNTDWF

WEENIE

It took me a second, but I got it.

wwheres the dercest
wwhens the dercest thread
wwhat dildo should i get

>people writing fuckin ESSAYS pinpointing each of homestucks flaws and exactly where hussie figuratively touched them
homestuck was pretty good honestly you guys are gettin a bit twitchy

Here is your (You)

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Fuck, why did Hussie have to fucking drop the ball so hard? This would have been perfect, but instead of being written by any other writer, it was written by Andrew "Gotta Be Subversive!" Hussie.

At least the game is being written by hussie
:^)

But it's not, it's being written by a random Twitter user who praises Zoe Quinn that made a clown joke once.

I was literally pretending to be retarded user

Homestuck's ending was a catastrophe and everyone remains pissed about it.
I'm still mad. My friends from Tumblr are still mad. The one guy I know from Reddit is still mad. The ex-MSPA forum members I've seen elsewhere are still mad. We're going to be talking at length about Hussie's fuckups for a couple more years, really. You'll have to wait it out.

Homestuck's goal was to create a webcomic so bad it'd teach even Reddit how to bantz

And I apparently was literally being retarded, sorry

t. reddit mod

Hussie can fuck up his webcomic all he wants

The multi-million dollar game his fans funded, however...

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Look user that's hussies cow
Don't complain that the milk you payed for is spoiled
Ur literally being entitled

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but this comic is good, disproving its own point

One of the morals I got from it is that writers are ridiculous for creating "character arcs" for humans in fiction, because real human beans have no character arcs.

Fuck off Dave.

Which is hilarious since the ending was the least subversive. It was literally wretchedly tidy

The ending was in the spirit of acts 1-4 but not acts 5-6
So basically all of acts 5-6 feels like a massive waste of time and a colossal pile of unanswered mysteries and ignored character drama

Hussie wearing a Pepe shirt makes me think he's become too fucking meta

Like Hiveswap will be deliberately shit because Hussie wants to make a point about how we shouldn't expect not-shit games or whatever

>kids have a beautiful happy ending
>two seconds thought informs you that they still have something to do
>that thing leaves them stranded for ever and probably dead
>most of the rest of the characters in the comic also probably die or disappear
>but its totally ambiguous

i dunno about tidy

>Expectations being subverted becomes expected, therefore the norm
>Ending played completely straight with no ball or other-shoe drops at all
>Fanbase flips the fuck out on a monumental scale

I'd congratulate Hussie if I weren't so busy being anally devastated.

Please don't compare Act 5 to Act 6

Act 5 is terrible things happening to terrible people, it's a tragedy of errors

Act 6 is Hussie obsessing over the "meta", spending months on a storyline and then having him as the author retcon it to make some shitty Mario joke

1. Don't bite off more than you can chew.
2. Don't set the ending of your story in stone before you start writing your story.
3. More characters does not mean better characters.
4. Never trust Hussie.

>people claim there was never johnrose teasing

>male and female characters talking to each other is ship teasing

That isn't any more romantic that davekat persterlogs.

Never fall in love with characters written by a hack. It will only lead to pain.

The Strilondes basically had some kind of flirting or innuendo with literally anyone they ever talked to. It's the reason so many crackships like Dave/Equius exist.

>Like Hiveswap will be deliberately shit because Hussie wants to make a point about how we shouldn't expect not-shit games or whatever

>tfw Hiveswap's gonna be defended because Hussie will essentially tell us that it's supposed to be shit

Goddamn, if that isn't one last fuck you to this fanbase then I don't know what it is.

iggigigigigigipigigigididdegeredoo can make him write cuck and wear meme shirts but she can't give us the tiniest reassurance that hiveswap will be even fucking out this year

Dave and Karkat had flirting?

They had innuendo in huge piles. Both Karkat and Dave commonly put references to various anatomy into their ranting and raving, get them together and you have wrestling and grabbing at each other's faces in a desperate fight between drawing a shipping grid featuring both of themselves, and a load of penises. I don't ship Davekat and I think it's near-canon inclusion was fucking stupid and terrible, but there was plenty of material in the comic to feed the initial shippers many years ago.

>a desperate fight between drawing a shipping grid featuring both of themselves
Yeah while disputing terezi

You missed the point of the message.
"YOU'RE ABUSING THAT COW"
"what? no, I changed the food. The stuff I was using was expensive."
"SEE? ABUSE! HOW DARE YOU!"
"look, it's my cow, I'm still looking after it, it's still healthy --"
"NO IT ISN'T"
"-- it's still healthy even if I'm not giving tours of my barn, and you've been happy with the milk I've been giving you for free --"
"YOU USED TO GIVE ME FREE MILK TWICE A DAY, now you're BULLYING ME by not giving me MILK FAST ENOUGH."
" (long sighing noise) "

sure, mr. all-caps is a strawman, but I know you know you've heard these complaints just like this..

If two people are dating the same third party, they have a relationship with each other. All three of them are "in a relationship" whether balls touch or not.

We got some GREAT porn out of it. Let's console ourselves with that.

Thats not how it works and they never ended dating her.

i want you to imagine an alternative situation where aradia and feferi physically fight over sollux and try to plan different sex times and end up somehow angrily drawing each others genitalia

this does not indicate the two are in love with each other or some shit. but if you are titillated by the idea of lesbians it would probably give you a boner. maybe you might go search for some pics or fics or them boning. thats literally all gay shippers were doing with davekat after penis ouija.

Aradia and feferi fighting over sollux is completely out of character.

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thinking about it does give me a boner though

this might have applied during act 5 and maybe even early act 6

but the cow has been beaten to death and he just won't stop

Your boner is what killed homestuck.

my boner would never...

> don't bite off more than you can chew
I prefer "aim for the stars, settle for the moon." or "he who dares, wins"
> don't set the ending in stone before you start
he had an ending in mind before he started, as anybody should. Doesn't look to me like it was set in stone.
> more doesn't mean better
quantity is a quality all it's own. from his formspring Q&A sessions, sounded like his mistake wasn't introducing all the extra cast members, but trying to give all of them depth.
> never trust hussie
I... have no defence here.

being out-of-character never stopped the fanartists

fuck off andrew

Post-Scratch was a mistake.

i don't know if he's asking a riddle or having an existential crisis and screaming "what am i!?"

i find it funnier to think it's the latter

>picture
That would have been fine if death actually meant something and if he didn't constantly undermine dramatic tension in other ways by constantly going back to that Alpha Timeline shit. Turns out doing anything other than listlessly lounging about for years dooms everything WHO KNEW?

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the end.
no moral.

Don't ever try to be more than what you are, play exactly by the game/paradox space's rules, and stay out of the way of the people that actually matter.
Maybe you'll get your happy ending. Or not. Most likely not. Who cares?

>play by paradox space's rules
those rules are hidden, so you don't even know what you're supposed to do right

FUCKING VRISKA STOP RUINING MY FUCKING COMIC REEEEEEEEEEE

Two female characters being in frame at the same time would give me a boner, but I wouldn't rationalize it as confirming that they are fucking in any place other than my mind.

Act 5 Vriska was one of the best characters of all time

Act 6 Vriska isn't even really Vriska, she's just a symbol of Hussie's adderall overdose

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Yes
Give me more