So I’m definitely not reading Harley’s ongoing anymore, and here’s why:
So Harley’s writers give yet another male character a loving kiss scene, while the woman she’s supposedly romantically involved with just stands by . Ivy is asked once again if she’s jealous, and that’s it. That’s the bulk of their “relationship.” They “flirt,” have conversations meant for laughs and sexual innuendo, and then Harley is written off with some dude wherein they have all the romance.
I don’t understand why it’s so hard for everyone to see how that is nothing. The writers have done essentially nothing for Harley’s character but 1) take away the last dregs of her intelligence and 2) have given her some of the worst characterization her character has seen in her short existence.
Harley being nothing more than a quick pit stop for boobs and lesbian sex jokes does more harm than good.
Harley has been reduced to stereotype of bisexuality. The comic, and her character, are written as over-sexed and plays on the concept of “having your cake and eating it too,” a common slanderous mindset on bisexuality. It implies that a bisexual lover could never be true to their partner. It implies someone who is bi could have all the fun they want with someone of the same sex, but at the end of it all they’ll do everything they want out of a relationship with a partner of the opposite sex.
There is conjecture that they are poly because of the “Word of God” tweet between DC and the Palmiottis, but that frankly is a bad idea.
Because the writers are just making them friends with benefits. Because the writers are treating Harley’s potentiality of a non-hetero sexuality as a novelty, a trinket, another thing to make her “quirky” and “weird.” They treat her being bi as a punchline, and they make Ivy, a most likely lesbian and basically canon girlfriend, stand by the sidelines and suffer from invisibility, and it honestly feels like it’s because she isn’t “straight enough” to have a visible romance.
Its called being bisexual OP You wouldn't know where on the kinsey scale Harley lies on any given day
Jaxon Perry
I think it's funny that you're this invested in this fictional relationship.
Jose Mitchell
I also think it's funny that's why OP doesn't read the book and not because of the writing in general.
Bentley King
Harley’s ongoing is too messy in construction and is actually harming the perception of how the B in LGBT+ operates.
>Not being invested in the best pairing of DCU
Why do you have to be that way?
William Gonzalez
>b-but fictional relationships can't be dysfunctional!!! fuck off
Aaron Garcia
>Not being invested in the best pairing of DCU
But I am.
Leo Thompson
It can be dysnfuctional, but I have to atleast see that. Harley & Ivy in Harley's book is a bunch of nothing
Matthew Ross
i love it when people who are defined entirely by what kind of sex they have, making it their whole identity, are pissed off when people think all they do is have sex it makes them so mad they go and have nothing but meaningless sex with a variety of partners for reasons unrelated to anything but immediate pleasure
Elijah Gomez
>being this invested in a meme character
This is why you should follow (good) writers, not whatever flavor-of-the-year character is trending.
Samuel Flores
But I thought Harley book would have been good. After all Jonah Hex and Power-Girl was good and that was all Palmiotti
Matthew Davis
>reading Harley's solo Why do you hate yourself, OP? Her every other recent appearance has been much better than this book.
Cameron Garcia
Like I said because of Palmiotti track record with Jonah Hex and PowerGirl.
Easton Nelson
>You just said Kraken I don't get it.
Jonathan Nguyen
I think they said their relationship had "none of the jealousy" which I find hard to believe
Lincoln Diaz
it sounds kinda like cancer,which this character is
Chase Murphy
You're forgetting Justin Grey, who co-wrote Power Girl as well as Jonah Hex.
Bentley Cook
OP thinks the Bombshells universe is canon which fuels his autism. He simply refuses to accept that Harley and Ivy are just fuck buddies and nothing more.
Cooper Morris
So...
How is Ivy going to pay back bats?
Jace Green
OP, you SERIOUSLY just realized Harley/Ivy is just one big queer bait from the beginning?
I've been telling you this shit for ages.
The "romance" only exists to be teasing and unobtrusive. All its qualities serve to be as unobtrusive as it possibly can, while still tickling your boner for lesbians whenever possible.
Jackson Diaz
>Ivy, a most likely lesbian
Her own mini said she was bi in a hybrid joke
Chase Gonzalez
H Y P E R C R I S I S
Everything is canon
Sh-Shut up!.
Nathan Torres
Not to mention she had the hots for some indian dude with a pink mohawk, though that honestly just seemed like the writer self-inserting.
William White
That way they can please the HarleyxIvy crowd while still writing their heterosexual romance
Grayson Gray
By please I mean bait and string along, but you get it
Isaac Wilson
Im not reading it because Harley sucks
Leo Wilson
Dude, Harley's a slut. She has always been a slut. Get over it already and stop looking for "pure" anime-tier waifus.
Angel Gray
Where is this nonsense from?
Jaxon Roberts
The writer was a girl.
Jace Hernandez
>I'm happy when she's happy That's legitimately a cuckold thing to say.
Xavier Rodriguez
Ivys a cuck. Which makes sense since she's a women who can make anyone happy by fucking up their free will.
Also Harleys a slut so its a perfect relationship
Blake Cooper
Yeah the writer was self-inserting into Ivy. Dumbass.
Luis Hall
I did a tl;dr version of your post user, I hope you don't mind
>So I’m definitely not reading Harley’s ongoing anymore, and here’s why: >Autism
Nathan Williams
Nah, man. My TL;DR would be that I wanted a troll thread with 300+ replies just to amuse myself, but It didn't worked. Hell I took this whole thing from a Tumblr post
I just needed to cut some text to fit into Sup Forums's word limit
Andrew Clark
Jimmy Palmiotti sucks whenever he's not working with Justin Grey and Amanda Palmer isn't really a writer.
They pretty much ruined the nice dynamic Harley and Ivy had, where Harley was Pink and Ivy was Brains.
Ivy needs to be the alpha straight gal, who's always getting frustrated and angered with Harley's antics, while Harley act as the funny ditz who's always getting them into troubles.
That's how they were under Bruce Timm. That's why people liked the pair together.
Harley being the alpha leader with Ivy being her beta-friend orbiter and side-kick simple doesn't work.
Colton Kelly
This
Nicholas Stewart
>Bisexuals think, honest to God, that they are not all fucking sluts. Oh, I'm laughing.
Jack Mitchell
Damn, well I can respect that. Better luck next time.
Maybe repost it tomorrow? Almost nobody's here now.
Jaxson Carter
What? Bisexuals are sluts, now? As a bisexual i'm terribly offended.
Sure, i'm currently going out with three girls and two dudes, but we're in an open relationship and i tell them about m other partners, i also always invite them to my weekend orgy parties, so it's not like i keep things from them.
Robert Davis
Yeah, I think for them to get the Harley/Ivy dynamic right it'd have to be in a book where Ivy was the lead, a book that focused on both of them working together, or a book where neither of them are main characters but appear together often. A Harley-led book isn't a good place for it.
Camden Scott
Being honest, though. It's really hard to commit when you love the human body in all its shapes and forms. Think about it. You're constantly being bombarded with things that turn you on when you're walking outside.
How can a person commit to just one relationship when you suffer like that?
Henry Taylor
Harley on going has always been a pile of shit anyway.
Jordan Walker
fact
Dylan Murphy
Once your sex drive fails for one reason or another, it gets easier.
John Walker
So are most people. Just because you're attracted to both men and women doesn't mean you're more prone to cheating. Some bisexuals are sluts but they'd be just as slutty if they were gay or straight, because it's got nothing to do with their sexuality.
Isaac Rivera
DC comics is just too 50's to give more than a superficial wash to gay or minority characters.
Gay characters have non-relationships or their romantic other is killed off swiftly.
Black comic characters are all earnest straight-laced Sidney Poitier types who exist to add a dash of color to the JL lineups.
Not saying that the other comic companies are anything near flawless in their representation of non-white non-straight fictional characters, but DC has always been hilariously uncomfortable and awkward with it.
Jose Wood
Very this.
Parker Phillips
>In the future, the only black guy allowed in the JL has to paint himself 100% metallic
Landon Barnes
>Gay characters have non-relationships or their romantic other is killed off swiftly. Except...You know, Midnighter and Apollo, first gay married couple in comics
Gavin Bell
First of all this is obviously a copy paste from somewhere else.
Second, how pathetic is it that you went out of your way to find something to make yourself mad that some idiot whose opinion doesn't matter said?
Gavin Scott
I know this is bait but I've always felt like DC has treated us with a bit more respect. Relationships and sexuality as a second, character first.
Pied Piper has more to him than "That gay guy"
Meanwhile I can't really tell you anything about Billy other than he's a cute twink that likes cock.
Justin Clark
>First of all this is obviously a copy paste from somewhere else.
No shit, Sherlock. I said it here >Second, how pathetic is it that you went out of your way to find something to make yourself mad that some idiot whose opinion doesn't matter said?
I just wanted to created a troll thread for the laughs, it failed and that's that