>How 'bout the fact that I hate my son? I come home, he's sittin' on the computer in his underwear...wastin' his time in some chitchat room goin' back an' forth with some other fuckin' jerkoff... gigglin' like a little school girl. I wanna fuckin' smash his fuckin' face in.
What did he mean by this?
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he's having difficulty connecting with his son and feels conflicted and powerless as he only knows how to solve problems with violence
He hates NEETs
He's-
There it is.
Is he talking about us?
I feel the same way about my brother. We live together in a house we inherited.
>sleeps all day
>first thing when he wakes up is the computer
>last thing before sleep is the computer
>no friends at all
>doesn't go out at all and wears the same clothes
>is fine with his lifestyle
I understand Tony and wanting to smash somebody's face in for acting like this.
Is this how my dad sees me?
Try inviting him out.
I tried that already,he just acts weird and I don't really think he wants to hang out. He is frustrating as hell,a few times I talked to him about it and he started crying about how he is a loser and he wants friends but doesn't know how to get them. I ask him if he wants to hang out with me and my friends and he says okay but when the time comes,he is "not in the mood". For example there is this wedding we are invited to and he doesn't want to go. It's like a starving man refusing food.
This isn't the website for you, normalfag.
I am here from 2009 and I started like a beta but I am nostalgic. This website is for everyone who wants to post here.
He probably feels ashamed of himself and like he'd have nothing to talk about
Shit man that must be painful for you both. Watching him suffer, and him suffering. Best you can do is keep trying so you can say you did.
Thinking on it, my brother is turning in to your brother. He works security, sometimes 12 hour shifts. He comes home to play some vidya, throws some memes at me, then he sleeps and does it all again the next day. I never see him go on dates, or with friends, anything.
into* fuck me.
Take him out for sports.
He doesn't want direct interaction with people, that just scares him, sports is a way to ease off into something social.
I know because I'm your brother.
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You are probably right and I know I will sound like an asshole but it is exhausting living my life and trying to live his for him. I mean he doesn't even want to listen to me on the basics,like showering or changing shirts every day (he has this autistic thing where he thinks he has two or three good shirts and he only wears those,while the closet is full of new shirts that have never been worn)
Thanks,man. It's frustrating and our situation does feel similar. I am scared for him.
He doesn't like sports. I tried taking him to the gym because it did wonders for my self esteem but he doesn't want to hear about it. I think he just wants a magic wand to create a social life for him out of scratch.
Wow he doesn't even like sports? What a loser, just give his stamp back and get rid of him.
>mfw my dad is secretly a mob boss.
>I think he just wants a magic wand to create a social life for him out of scratch.
This is the problem with the instant gratification video games and the internet has given us. Only mother fuckers with enough self-control can really balance that shit.
> Tony saving AJ from drowning was the most powerful scene in the entirety of the Sopranos.
He is too coddled,and it's my fault partially. He fucked up the computer so I gave him my ipad instead of making him fix it or at least pay it being fixed. I was in a protective mood because of our parents death but he is really milking the situation. The whole estate is on me and he doesn't even have a care in the world and he still can't carve out a social life for him.
He's probably depressed. Try actually being a brother and talk to him on a less superficial level. He's your fucking brother make an effort.
>finished watching The Sopranos with my parents last week
>my dad kept looking over at me during that part
I-I'm only 19! Give me time!
Dick?
No, I have a job
>wake up
>wipe the cigar ashes, tomato sauce, stripper glitter and gabagool grease from my polyester short-sleeved collared bowling shirt
>breathe heavily and as loudly as possible on my trek down the stairs and across my McMansion to the kitchen (probably the most exercise I've done in years, I never did have the makings of a varsity athlete)
>fix myself a hearty plate of gabagool with a side of gabagool
>pour myself a glass of Tropicana™ with some pulp to wash down the diabetes
>here comes A.J down the stairs
>it's been a good week for him, he only attempted suicide 5 times and he got an F+ on his community college Remedial Arithmetic quiz
>I'm proud of him
>So proud of him that I take him outside to see his new car. My son only drives the best
>A brand-new stretch hummer limo. The safest money could buy, and it gets ten feet to the gallon
>A.J. starts bitching about the environment
>Tell him I'll throw his ass back in the pool if he doesn't shut the fuck up and get in the hummer limo
>He gets in, the hummer limo immediately bursts into flames
>A.J. survives, is angry he's still alive and goes back up to his room to jerk off to interracial porn
>Carmela arrives, she's back from the gabagool market
>She presents to me crates, barrels, backpacks and suitcases packed to the brim with delicious gabagool
>"It took me hours to gather all this gabagool, Tony. A thank you would be nice."
>Give her a gabagool and cigar flavored kiss on the cheek and a crisp $100 bill, and pat her on the head. That'll do, Carm, that'll do.
>Phone rings, it's Meadow
>Everything goes to black, there's no punchline. Fuck you, lmao!
Read up on my replies. I always tried to talk to him but really doesn't listen or forgets the point immediately. Since our parents died,we had "the talk" about him taking charge of his life over 10 times (I am not exaggerating,I sit him down and beg him to tell me what is it with him and he just sits there quietly until I push the button and he starts crying about how lonely he is) but it doesn't stick because he never does anything that would change the situation. I also think he is depressed but he doesn't believe in shrinks.
>I-I'm only 19! Give me time!
I thought the same when I was your age, and five years later nothing's really changed
>I feel the same way about my brother. We live together in a house we inherited.
t. normie
normies cannot understand the enlightened recluse
Hey, don't condemn him to your own fate
How old is he? Does he live off of neetbux?
Shrinks don't always help and neither does meds. If you are in charge of the estate make changes. Change the Internet password. Cut the Netflix. Cut out what he uses to cope. Force him to make changes. If you enable it of course he will continue to milk the situation. Tough love is hard to dole out but some people need it to wake the fuck up.
He is 24 years old and in some way he does because we rent out some property and share the money.
>I-I'm only 19! Give me time!
Lemme tell you this now so you don't wish you were telling yourself later like I am. I'm 22, 23 in a month. If I could beat my 19 year old self to quit getting distracted by Sup Forums and the internet instead of doing the things I really wanted to do, or SHOULD have been doing, I would. Think something you want to do today, maybe it's walking a damn dog or something. Just do it. Don't think about it just move your legs and do the thing. I'm spending less and less time here as the days go on because it really is just a distraction, if an entertaining one.
Force him to
1. Hit the gym with you
2. Go to bars with you
3. Hang out with your friends, making sure they know the situation
you need to force him, he won't make that change himself.
t. That guy in the past
I've always wanted to be a writer. Always been pretty good at it too. I have a lot of story ideas and have even started a couple, but couldn't be bothered to finish them.
Does that count?
I tried the tough love approach. I changed the wifi password and I plugged out all his electronics. You know what he does then? He just sleeps or stares at the maps (ever since he was a kid he had fascination with maps). Whatever I try,he turns himself into a plant who doesn't communicate with me and I cave after a few days because I don't want to be a dungeon keeper,I want to focus on my life.
I appreciate your input but I literally tried all of those in the last 5 years. 5 years is a lot of my life dedicated to a guy who in the end does not give a shit.
I am your brother and do what
says.
My brother took me hiking in the jungle, and I solidly feel that's where I started trying to give a shit about myself and my life. It's gonna be a long road, but with time I think I'm gonna make it. Do us a favor and don't give up. Right now, we probably think we aren't worth shit. That's the mentality. Why don't you look for a gf? No girl would like me. Why don't you try getting a better job? Not qualified for it. Why don't you try bettering yourself? This is me and I've got to just accept it. But doing shit sparks motivation to change that.
Doesn't have to be sports, even. Hiking, kayaking, biking, fishing, etc.
Or you can just fuck off and do your own thing. Don't let it weigh on your conscience. It's his life to keep fucking up, not yours.
I'm trying to warn him not to waste his time
With a brother like you he is probably going to kill himself soon and you will have the house for yourself
Don't worry this will work itself out.
Phone much is he receiving every month? Is it enough where he doesn't have to work? Because if that's the case I would understand his living.
Nice trips.
Of course that counts. Do it now. Stop posting in this thread and get to it. Write poetry on the side and send them to those international poetry competitions man. Just do the shit.
I don't understand why you're posting here and he isn't
I actually wrote a short poetry book for a girl I had been in love with since I was 14. She got engaged about a month ago, so I burned it.
don't listen to this faggot, shitpost to your heart's content, kid. time you enjoy wasting was not wasted. dont subscribe to what society thinks you should be doing, the world's fucked up, fucked them all and do what you want.
I took him to road trips and whenever it seems like he is out of his shell,he would revert to himself in the next few days
That's a fucked up thing to say,user
It's a nice amount but not nice enough to live your whole life on it
I posted on Sup Forums since I was a shut in but I changed. I still like to go here and discuss things and I can't do this in real life because no one would give a shit. This way I have someone I can discuss this with.
Shit that sucks man. You don't wanna hear, or read, this but women come and go. Especially with you as young as you are. As long as you're doing the shit you want to be doing, they'll come along.
tony is just a criminal neet
I feel pretty inspired now. Thanks, user.
Well, maybe leave him to his own devices? Some people don't want a lot out of life. You're happiness should not be weighted down by your brothers. You can only do so much. Just remind him you care occasionally and let him be on his way. Also maybe rent out a part of the house to someone and really freak him the fuck out.
Nah man if someone truly enjoys browsing the internet, connecting with other individuals n' shit, that's absolutely fine. Live and let live. That's why I told user over there to think about something he wanted to do today and to do it. He answered he wants to write, so he should. When giving life advice you shouldn't impose or assume, you just ask the person a variation of "are you doing the thing you want to do right now?" If they're not, then they should. That's all there is to it.
>tfw 28 and literally the only reason to get up in the morning is my mediocry paid job
fuck off
>He just sleeps or stares at the maps (ever since he was a kid he had fascination with maps). Whatever I try,he turns himself into a plant who doesn't communicate with me and I cave after a few days because I don't want to be a dungeon keeper,I want to focus on my life.
That sounds to me beyond even the most withdrawn NEET and more like full blown tism or some other kind of mental illness that needs a dedicated handler. I don't know exactly how that system works wherever you live, I just hope you aren't saddled with the dude for life.
There are work from home jobs for people like that, maybe even enough to have him support himself to some degree, but I suspect he doesn't have the motivation to exert even the minimal amount of effort required.
>That's a fucked up thing to say,user
Anon its the truth. He is thinking about suicide daily and if you think he can't feel your hate you are retarded.
Don't worry. Just drop some hints. Like leave a rope and some whiskey and say you will have shit to do for a few days and he will be alone.
I promise you your problem will fix itself after that.
I appreciate your response man. I maybe come off as a martyr but I am not,there were times I was unnecessary mean to him but I swear on my life I really want the best for him.
>Also maybe rent out a part of the house to someone and really freak him the fuck out.
I actually thought about this the other day
I think he might have a mild aspergers or something but it's not like he's retarded,he's really smart with a great memory and on the rare occasions that I have seen him relaxed with people,he was socially competent. The main problem with him is getting him off his ass.
>I actually thought about this the other day
Give it some more thought. Also like some other guy said, you should let your friends know what's going on and repeatedly invite them over.
underrated post.
sleeping and looking at something that he enjoys is 'autism'
dont become a doctor.
Speaking from experience here - a lack of confidence/social skills can make basic interactions really painful, especially for people with social anxiety. He probably isn't being purposefully difficult, as much as overly-cautious to avoid a shitty social interaction that might damage his self esteem even more. A wedding might seem to him like a complete nightmare.
The key to beating this is habit - make him habitually interact with people in a social setting. Weekly, or everyday of you can, maybe through part-time employment. Eventually the initial anxiety will subside and he will be in a position to develop social skills, accept your invitations, and he can build a social life from there.
Other than that, giving him incentives to develop self-control and the ability to form new habits is super important. That means removing his access to the computer if you can, bribing him with rewards, whatever... in exchange for baby steps towards basic shit like hygiene etc. You can also try and introduce him to motivational resources like books/films/videos that might inspire him to change, because it will obviously be much easier if he develops inner resolve.
But yeah dude, I feel you. It's unbearable but you sound like you're doing a pretty good job as is
Sort of on the same boat.
Little sister went home after dropping out of college where she had just a year left.
She just lays around not listening to dad or mom, watching online shit.
I got tired and cut off her internet and told her I'd return it the moment she starts helping around the house. Hell, even just sweeping or washing plates was enough to return it but instead she chose to get online using her phone's data, then tells dad that she can't look up her schools enrollment date because I cut off her internet.
The reasoning I had to cut her off the internet was because I experienced being depressed at failing at life and rather than do something about it, I moped around being some shitty NEET lying in my sweaty bed all day and playing games and watching movies.
My point is, I'd have done the same thing to myself back then because I now realize the importance of having some time to think about it and having a sort of schedule to keep yourself connected to the world around you.
Sadly, IDK about your brother, but my sister has friends she goes out with from time to time. So if there's any advice I have for your brother is that he has to start having a schedule or routine. Observe and improve upon his self because no one else can help him except himself. If he's lonely, then go talk to strangers. Realize that even if he screws up talking to strangers that people are generally self-absorbed and won't generally mind him, unless he screws up like Chris Chan or whatever.
Shit,I have nothing to lose. Thanks for listening and not being an asshole.
Sounds like depression and social anxiety disorder at a guess. Depression is a function of failure to solve a problem usually related to future prospects in life ( in my experience anyway). Perhaps he desire social group or whatever but has such low self esteem he doesn't think anyone would reciprocate, combined with anxiety disorder? Solution is to force him into social interaction on a regular basis so experience can trump the anxiety that has become instinct.
>but has such low self esteem he doesn't think anyone would reciprocate
Some people are just buzz killers and they know everyone around them will have more fun if they wouldn't be there.
>Sup Forums - Life and Advice
yeah well if he's depressed because "he's" lonely then he should get some other autistic friends
>open thread and look forward to a fun/nostalgic Sopranos time
>it's actually a hugbox
That sounds like hell. Any autist self-aware enough to know how annoying he is should be praised for choosing suicide over becoming part of some autist friend group.
sopranos is shit anyway and threads are bad usually
I am very much like this dudes brother. I never want to go out and mostly keep to myself. When he has people over I am usually in my room. I just don't feel like faking it anymore. The whole come out and socialize with people is a fucking chore. I'm not saying I'm better than people I just choose not to interact. I've been crazily depressed for about a decade and a half and just waiting for my parents to die so I can kill myself but I also have 3 older brothers so that weighs on my conscious. I really tried to fight the depression the last 15 years but nothing seems to work. I figure I'll go on a farewell tour after my parents die then live stream my eventual rampage online for Sup Forums amusement.
There ain't nothing wrong with people trying to help improve the lives of other people. Not like they're jerking off over furry shit or the patriarchy or something counter-productive.
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sopranos threads are literally the only good threads in this shithole
There's really no other way man? You've already chosen your fate?
Sometimes you're not given a choice, user. Not everyone gets a happy ending.
Spoken like a true defeatist.
You'd be astounded at how little it takes to change things. How old are you?
That is the kind of people who should hole themselves out. Their defeatism would just depress achievers like you.
Cut him off. Let his ass hit bottom alone
So encourage his fucking suicide god dammit.
No user. I'm not the favorite of my parents, never achieved anything in school, lost all friends, lost GFs, been suicidal, been NEET even and everyday self-loathing and cynic.
You just have to accept what you are and improve, even just a little bit day by day.
>You just have to accept what you are and improve
Dead is an improvement for them as far as they are concerned.
t. empathy deficient nonwhite
People with depression don't deserve empathy. they deserve to be encouraged to kill themselves so they are not in pain anymore and your family can get over you.
>implying anyone cares about a subhuman's opinion
I am not saying anyone should care about the opinion of depressed people.
>Dead is an improvement for them as far as they are concerned.
I, or even better people, can go on rambling about for 2 days about not giving up and all that encouragement crap, but it won't be of any use unless the depressed/troubled person acknowledges it and changes their perspective in life.
I'll be waiting user. Who do you plan on targeting? Some famous hollywood celeb?
Which is why I am here to tell them there is nothing wrong with suicide and that they are heroes for realizing they are a problem and are smart enough to kill themselves.
>not being a fat degenerate shut in makes you a normalfag
Kill r9k
not a lot of africans get depressed while being aids & ak ridden, what does that tell you?
I don't really care about your racism. I am white. There is nothing you can say to me.
the term untermensch applies to whites, your character is inferior
user, I'm just tired
It really depends on what year it is. I'd like to take a shot at a high ranking official. Or do a real sandy hook so people can't deny it...I don't know. I'll probably take a straw poll on /b
Untermensch only applies to people who would use that term. Like the Germans who lost.
you need to reach a certain level of brain development for that
see
Everyone should.