So anyway, like I was saying, right after Suzie backs off because of Gameboy looking in on their cell (entire "fight" TBA), Dora goes off to look at the facilities and begin formulating an escape plan.
Unbeknownst to her, she's leaving a trail of red footprints behind her which Suzie, who doesn't notice the footprints, is compelled to follow. Suzie gives commentary/exposition on the various places in the jail Dora goes to look at.
Joseph Anderson
We need to keep it down to 30 or less stands. Having a story helps with that.
We need a list of character suggestions for he part too, and their purpose. From what I can remember. >Dora (protag. Has a stand) >Warden (main villain. Has a stand) >Suzie (brojo. Has a stand) >Giffany (brojo. Has a stand) >Penny (brojo. Has a stand) >Wong (first villain. Has a stand?) >Clarissa's dad (starter foe. Has a stand?) >Dinosaur Dan (bartering chip. Does he even need a stand?) >Robert "Bobby" Hill (Penny supervisor) >Callie Briggs (Penny supervisor) >Gordon? (Warden in disguise? Are we using him?) >Mrs. Frizzle (starter villain. Superjail Guard. has a stand?) >Gameboy (villain. Superjail guard. Has a stand.) >Gaz? (villain. Superjail guard? Has a stand? Are we even still using her?) >Breach (high security inmate villain? Has a stand?) >Plankton (villain? has a stand.) >Summer Smith? (???) >Toki? (???) >Pickles? (???) >Wasp? (???) >Joy? (???) >Robo-Dale (villain. No stand) >Vicky (high security inmate villain. Has a stand.) >Woody Woodpecker? (villain?)
Those are the ones I can think of right now. That's 19 stands already not counting Dan. I guess a few will be fought in PI. There's 9 in the first part I believe?
We have 11 more stands until it reaches it's maximum.
Jaxson Ramirez
I think that the reveal shot of the trail of footprints would be a good place to
Oliver Lewis
And of course, we still have to decide if Daffy is siring any other kids or not.
Hudson Ward
Frizzle's stand was the bus, as I recall. Also you forgot Dredd. Three years in the cubes.
Chase Jenkins
>30 or less Stands Nah, man. We don't need to be constrained EXACTLY to JoJo part 6's limits, that's just silly. It feels way too limiting. Obviously we're not going to go all fucking out like we did with part 5, but such strict limits aren't going to help the story at all.
Sebastian Williams
>>Robert "Bobby" Hill (Penny supervisor) >>Callie Briggs (Penny supervisor) Wrong on both accounts. Neither of those characters are affiliated with Interpol in this.
Callie Briggs has only been suggested for this part as a former WB executive who took the fall for a lot of shit that happened.
Bobby is just a therapist.
Neither are solidly in the part yet.
Wong has a stand, Dan has a stand.
Penny's exact role in this part is still being reworked.
Chase Hall
Sure.
I figure the opening is the ride to jail. That's the narration, the bus ride, and meeting Suzie.
Then there's "Welcome to jail!" which is what the next bit would be involving the tour, introducing characters, establishing the prison food chain, and maybe the fight with Clarissa's dad.
Jacob Davis
I feel like Penny should be a very minor presence in act 1, and a bigger one in acts 2 and 3, as she'd get a couple of stories to herself as the lone one outside Superjail. Her biggest moment would probably be fighting her way in from the outside when Superjail starts to project out into reality.
Jaxon King
Well, he doesn't have a stand. But of course. He's Warden's lapdog.
I'm just trying to keep track so that it doesn't become too heavily packed.
Do you WANT another chaotic disaster like part 5?
Penny talks to both of them over her wristwatch. That was suggested last thread. They are her "supervisors" and if I recall are in Interpol.
Penny is a spy sent to infiltrate the prison. Callie is her boss who works with the heads of Interpol and is a cousin of Tom, and Bobby is her psychological counselor. That was the suggestion I read.
We are NOT having Callie participate in stand games though if that's what you're suggesting. Just because she was in one picture doesn't mean she should be in PI. We're ditching waifus as a main topic.
Jackson Evans
>Do you WANT another chaotic disaster like part 5? Don't be an asshole. Part 5 was overpacked because of the insistence on packing in multiple villains per arc and giving them no breathing room/proper place in the story, not because there were too many Stand users period. We should have as many Stand users as we need for the story arcs to work.
Connor Johnson
I'm not sure if Wong should have a Stand since he is a pillarmen, and we haven't decided his [Mode] yet. And according to wiki, 95% of the Rock Humans have Stands, though isn't necessary that he reveals his Stand
Evan Robinson
It's been suggested that we try and keep a limit on stands though.
We don't want a major influx of suggestions for part 6 and have to put them all in.
Ryder Diaz
Cool.
Maybe he is the rare Pillarman with a Stand. Thatd be what makes Yzma want him as an assistant in the first place.
She fires him when she finds out he isn't too smartical. And gets Kronk shortly after
Hunter Fisher
In the early parts of part 6 she needs to visit Dora in jail, offer her a deal, and give her a communicator of some kind.
Penny could have some kind of arc of her own rooting out corruption in Strickland.
There was never anything about Callie being Interpol before last thread. Before then all talk about her is that she was serving time because the crimes of the WB got dumped on her to appease the human legal system.
We could make that a farce and have her be the undercover agent.
Penny was NEVER supposed to be the spy. That got shot down repeatedly and I will keep to my guns on that. She's an agent trying to get an "in" at the jail. She has to make deals, but she has to stay on the outside to have any power in the story.
If anything, Penny's investigations into the jail are a little like her going rouge because there's probably an order from someone in her ranks who is corrupt and on the Warden's side.
I hate the idea of Callie and Tom being related. That adds nothing to the story aside from an excess detail that has no relevancy to any of the major or minor characters.
Luis Collins
Yeah. And we can do that by making sure that we only put in ones we have a place for, not by I'm thinking he should, since he's in control of a gang of Stand users. Johnny was able to pretty much dominate the Pillar Men in part 2 despite his mediocre Stand and lack of training. I liked the Xuéwèi Mode suggestion from last thread.
Hunter Jones
>smartical That gives me the perfect name for his stand, and it also somewhat justifies his mouth-hands. youtube.com/watch?v=uoZgZT4DGSY
Ayden Clark
Maybe he's a hybrid?
Anthony King
>Dredd not having a stand But the dude is the Warden's right hand man. It doesn't make sense for him not to have a stand if he's so important in a prison meant for people with stands.
Cooper Brown
I think he developed his stand long after his apprenticeship under Yzma.
The pillarmen in our part 2 has no knowledge of stands.
Matthew Garcia
I think what's more important than setting a hard limit of Stand Users is sorting them into each part of the story.
Right now we're in a bad habit of showing any Stand that's even remotely interesting into PI, which guts the first section into shit.
I agree with characters like Joy and Giffany being put in PI because they're actual psychopaths, but characters like Summer and honestly even Gaz should not be put at PI.
Right now the idea is that there's this whole arc built around hyping up Wong and Dora's rivalry before the big anticlimax at the prison break that ends with the Warden showing up.
Then we get PI, where you throw in all the crazies, and finally the riot section, which is a mix of the first two while the Warden's crew tries to clean up house.
Luis Miller
When will the gang fights be brought up?
In the original story, they had to fight groups of stand users who had created gangs inside the prison.
I really think that's a big part of it we can't lose. If I remember right we had a Redheaded gang, a Princess gang, a Goth gang, a Furry gang, and a Robot gang I think?
I do think this needs to remain in the new part 6, just to give it it's own "gauntlet/battle royale" sorta flair. It looks pretty lacking on stands, characters, and fights as it is.
I think we're ditching the waifu concept? That's sad, but I guess it can't be helped. I guess the gangs will be mixed members then now, except for maybe the Princess gang unless it's just called "royals" or something.
I'd say it should happen inside PI. i don't like the idea of a couple of 1 on 1 fights. There needs to be action and stuff. Dora fighting a giant group of stand wielding cat girls and the like.
I do think there should be a few regular prison fights though. Maybe a few prison riots happen and some of the inmates are revealed to have stands? I just want more action than there seems to be so far. I want FIGHTS and BLOODSHED. Not some lame drama like part 3.
Josiah Ramirez
I guess Summer could be one of the ones who gets recruited as an ally and then taken out during the escape. They could fight her in the visit-the-gym episode? Gaz is a guard now, so if she's in at all, she should be in Pure Imagination. If we want a "mundane" prisoner to go in the main jail, how about Pete of Mickey Mouse fame? Not sure what his Stand power should be, but it should look like his Steamboat Willie design as a bear instead of a cat.
David Bailey
Fuck no. FUCK no. We did gang fights in part 5 and it was a mess. Nobody got characterisation and there was no room to breathe. It was a miracle that the main cast got arcs as good as they did. No fucking gang fights. We max out at THREE enemies at once, no more, and we should aim to not have any of those unless it's ABSOLUTELY necessary.
Blake Myers
No, that's been scrapped. We did gangs in part 5, and you know what happened? Everyone thought it was just a good idea, but then no one wanted to write the fights, so then it all got dumped on one user to do everything. We're not doing gangs again.
There is only ONE prison gang in part 6.
Jackson Brown
There were more gangs than that I think? But I can't remember.
The Redhead gang had >Summer >Kim Possible >Candace Flynn in it though. I guess Vicky now that she's a prisoner rather than a guard. Maybe two more members who are guys?
I believe our Princess gang had Elsa, Rapunzel, and Princess Bubblegum in it.
I don't know what the others had except for Callie and the girl from Prequel in the Furry gang. Maybe Gumball should be a member now that the prison is now more mixed than female exclusive.
I dunno about robots. XJ-9?
Jose Carter
>Stand Master: Mordecai >Stand: 「LEVIATHAN」 >Appearance: A lanky eel like humanoid with one gilded arm. The user is also given a rather grungy gauntlet appearing to be made out of wreckage >Ability: 「LEVIATHAN」's hands bear the ability to expand the space within whatever they delve into, creating a 「hammerspace」 within which objects can be stored. The user's gauntlet, 「White Whale」, creates spaces that collapse upon being filled and directly fuse the object into the host. Medicines can be directly introduced to needed areas, foods directly inserted into the stomach, etc. The Stand's hand, 「Holy Grail」, is capable of maintaining a pocket for an indeterminate amount of time and the objects placed within are placed into 「stasis」 such that the time acting upon them whilst in the hammerspace is equal to zero.
>Stand Master: Rigby >Stand: 「ABRASIVE」(Ratatat) >Appearance: A large psuedo-mechanical insect that rides atop the user's upper back akin to a knapsack >Ability: 「ABRASIVE」 is a Stand that bears no inherent offensive ability on its own merits but allows the user to take command of all 「Dust Mites」 within roughly 100 feet and convert instances of 「dead skin」 and 「dust」 directly into the insects. From here, the user can either utilize them as a workforce or can convert them into living flesh to heal wounds or create appendages. The Stand also shows traces of slight sapience.
The two of them were members of the same drug ring as Dora and ended up busted after Swiper sold out their operation to the feds.
Gavin Robinson
I think it's a good idea actually. It'd be something to make part 6 more distinct. Plus, if done right, it could definitely work.
It's a prison arc too. Prisons are full of gangs. How can you have something set in prison without them? And with PI, it's only natural that groups of stand using girls with similar interests would team up to take on other enemies. Warden can't really force others to kill inside, only encourage. There's nothing stopping them from teaming up. And a group of enemies will be a lot tougher, not to mention a more interesting fight to write. Dora has her own gang as well too, with Giffany, Suzie, Gaz, and Penny, though I actually kinda prefer Xero. Toki and Pickles might join in too.
Whatever the case, I do think it's a good idea and would be neat if written well enough. Part 6 is pretty boring already. Gang fights would definitely give it more of an edge. Actually, shouldn't Wong have a gang of his own to fight the protags with?
Quit being so pessimistic. It's a nice idea.
Jace Gomez
I dunno, man. I just can't see what they'd add. There'd be no reason to fight if Dora knows them, and why wouldn't they be brought in on the same bus as she was? Sell me on their story role.
Ayden Moore
I like this. I like this a lot.
They'd need fights though, since they have stands. Where could they be put? PI?
Juan Lopez
Gang fights were part 5's thing. 6 should be more distinct. I like the idea of having a breakout story that involves the protags exploring the prison and accidentally making things worse myself.
Xavier Ward
Did you help at all with the writing of the fights in part 5? Maybe - MAYBE - we'll do a couple of team up fights inside Superjail. But gang fights wouldn't give it its "own flavor"; it'd feel like a retread of part 5.
Colton Parker
Well, I still want them. Part 5 gang fights weren't that interesting. I just feel they'd be better in 6, and would probably improve the part as well. I just don't like boring one on one fights being a main thing. Feels boring.
Jose Wilson
>It's a nice idea. Then write it yourself.
I'm going to continue with what we've already set up with there being only ONE gang, and there's only ONE gang for a damn good reason. Wong fucking killed all the others and didn't get caught doing it.
And we don't even see PI until we're already like 1/3rd of the way into the part.
Nathan Stewart
Save these two for another part, be it 7 or 8 (yeah both have their own comic/webcomic exclusivity thing going on but there are some allowances).
Wong's going to have a gang, but the whole "no gang fights" was thrown out a while ago. It just straight up hurt Part 5 as a whole, and while it could be done right we're having a hard time filling up the cast list without the gang numbers.
I do agree though, right now this Part is a bit lacking. Maybe once PI is fleshed out more we'll have a better idea on where this Part stands, but right now it's a cool idea with barebones execution.
Christian Ward
Fuck off.
Luke Miller
But that's boring. At least give it a gauntlet style of fights like I want more fights than we've seen so far. More characters. More stands. I just don't think it's interesting at all like this. There definitely is a massive lack of action so far.
This is Jojo and crazy battles are the norm. There's only a couple so far here, and they barely qualify as actual fights. It's just not Jojo without actual insane stand battles.
Joseph Miller
From a story perspective, they'd be our exposition into the drug ring and the sheer collapse of it shorty after the discovery of the jawbreaker caches and the resulting betrayal after. Shit started going south and fast with multiple high ranking members getting shut down and the two of them said 'fuck it,' took the goods and ran before getting arrested after leaving a trail of coke fueled anarchy on the way to the border.
Their Stands don't have much inherent danger to them so they could work in Belle Reve.
Adam Wright
>I do agree though, right now this Part is a bit lacking. Well, that's what hapens when you have to rebuild it completely from scratch. I think once we can get a decent feel for the breakout planning, it'll slip into groove.
Tyler Nguyen
Dude, we just started. Patience, grasshopper, shoehorning gangs isn't going to solve anything.
That said, the CUHRAZY needs to ramp up in PI. Think Dr. Suess after a truckload of acid and murder porn. The place is a madman's paradise, and that's where all the batshit insane fights should be.
Luis Perry
Fuck gauntlets. FUCK EM.
I had to do over 70% of all of part 5's writing on my own because everyone else was too intimidated by gang fights, teamwork battles, and consecutive fights. Fuck gauntlets.
I refuse to let part 6 turn into another situation where people are going to be less likely to contribute.
Jordan Jenkins
How many fights are there in PI?
The number of stand fights increases from the previous part. How many stands were in part 5? 6 should probably be double that amount. Or at least the number of fights.
Kevin Walker
Do they have to be fights? We could use some Brojos after all.
Nathan Myers
There are more people excited for the project now, so more people likely to contriute. We might as well keep suggesting things and see if they stick. The number of stands shouldn't matter, what matters is if and how they work in the plot.
There is a lack of stands so far, so we need as many as we can get. If it leads to a gauntlet or even gang battles, so be it. As long as they work, there's nothing really to be done. PI is just going to be a gauntlet, isn't it? It's a battle royale every man for himself fights to the death. Dora will have to cleave her way through a great many opponents to get to Warden.
Asher Ramirez
>there's nothing really to be done You better be prepared to write it yourself then.
Hunter Johnson
It doesn't HAVE to be like that though. We can have a gauntlet scene or two, but we can also have scenes of the protags exploring the insanity that is PI. We can have Interpol shenaniganry that leads to Warden saying "Fuck it" and starting to expand PI into the real world. We can have Dora grow into a hero. Saying "It has to be just fights!" is lazy and unimaginative.
Jaxon Long
What Interpol shenanigans? We're basically cutting 90% of them from the plot to give screen time to Dora.
All we have is a few spies sent into Superjail and that's it. No other means of communication with Interpol. And even then our spies will have extremely minor roles. We're probably cutting Penny's part, and possibly Xero's.
Basically there's barely any interaction from Interpol other than the basic knowledge that "they're there" but nothing much beyond that. The thread didn't want them being too big of a presence.
Jose Martin
The point was we can have things other than fights, I don't care about Interpol either way. I just don't want this to be a slog like 5 because everyone wants MORE FIGHTS AND MORE CRAZY but doesn't want to actually write them.
Ethan Green
You seem to think that the majority of part 6 which was still under the moniker of "waifu ocean" is still in effect.
We tossed out pretty much everything and are rebuilding from the ground up with the basic plot out line of
>Dora goes to jail >Jail shit happens >Dora gets sucked in PI >??? >Final showdown
Everything is up for grabs right now.
Gabriel Morales
I dunno about having two Brojos from the same series, and having them join with no conflict. It just doesn't feel like they'll add anything in that sense beyond being there as allies in fights. Plus, Dora's sense of isolation is kind of important. We need her to feel like she's more or less alone, other than Suzy, who tried to capture her when they first met; building status and gaining allies is important, and would be less so if she has Mordecai and Rigby on her team from the start. That said, if you can work out somewhere else for them, I think they'd fit fine. They just need a proper role. You're a douchecanoe and I have no desire for you to contribute further.
Chase Turner
Still need to expand the Dora and Suzie encounter.
>Dora leaves to look around >Unbeknownst to her, she's leaving a trail of red footprints behind her which Suzie, who doesn't notice the footprints, is compelled to follow
>While going around the prison, Dora ends up in the cafeteria >She notices both male and female prisoners >Suzie is still following her and cuts in >"Ah see you 'ave noticed this is a, how you say, co-ed institution. Ze Warden felt he should not discriminate when it comes to ze gender. But no need to worry about zat, zay keep a close eye on everything. >shot of Suzie's face which is out of focus with Dredd seen behind her shoulder at an elevation, sharply in focus >Dora notices one table looking more serious than the others with an old man sitting at the head of it surrounded by tough looking thugs
OK, who are Wong's guys? Dai Lung (Courage the Cowardly Dog) is probably one of them, and the one who sends Dora to go talk to "daddy".
Nathaniel Parker
How relevant is the smuggling ring to the story, though? Like, people keep coming up with stuff for it, but I'm not sure how much it would add. The idea of Carmen Sandiego being her mom seems more promising, if we want to pursue Dora's backstory - showing how she got into "the life" and unpacking some of her motivations. If we use Woody, that could be part of pacifying him - Dora uses the example of her own shitty parent. Hell, I'd originally thought that Dora would have been on a solo operation.
Eli Sanchez
i really do think they have potential. We're cutting out every brojo except for Suzy, so Dora needs more friends.
Maybe they reunite later on instead of directly at the start? maybe in PI? Of course, there really isn't any story for before PI. Everything discussed was just hypothetical and not even fully done and I'm not sure how much of it we're actually doing.
6 is just becoming a pain to write because nobody seems to be able to decide on anything. I don't want to suggest literally everything be thrown out, but nothing is sticking so far. We can't even determine how big we want part 6 to actually be.
Jason Miller
Me-Mow (Adventure Time) could be the one who tricks her into going into pedodad's cell. I feel like if it's a female character who tricks her, it comes off as a bitchy move by a complete asshole; if it's a guy, it comes off as an act of pure evil, despite it being the same thing. Funny how that works, uhh.
Leo Torres
>Of course, there really isn't any story for before PI. Before PI is the only thing there's story for, man. I get that we need more Brojos. I agree. But I really don't think that having them already know Dora is a great idea.
Brayden Nguyen
There is a surprising lack of AT characters.
Kevin Kelly
I thought they were suggested for part 8 as not!Oingo and not!Boingo not!brothers. And the only comic/webcomic restriction was lifted a while ago.
you forgot the end: >shit blows up, everyone is presumed dead >public outrage gets Nobody elected
Gavin Perry
Remember that whoever tells her to go there gets a tray to the face later.
Then I guess they'd try to retaliate against Dora before collapsing in pain caused by Wong's [Death Grips] mark on them so they don't attract anymore attention from the guards that are already coming.
Asher Fisher
Yeah, that's my thought. Me-Mow tells her to go in there, and later gets the shit kicked out of her by Dora, who awakens her Stand in the process. She should probably have a Stand, but not an attention grabbing one.
Luis Collins
He's too small though.
That aside, would he be the one who kills Dan before Wong can get the fruit secrets out of him?
Henry Thomas
>Suzie notices Dora eyeing that table >"Ah zee you 'ave noticed ze 'top dog' prisoner. Zat is Daolon Wong. There used to be many gangs in zis prison, until he came here. Now there is only his gang, ze prison staff, any anyone who gets caught in between. You should keep your distance from-" >Dora is already walking over to Wong's table before Suzie even finished
Bentley Scott
The ring and their distributions could end up playing a major role into the spread of abilities to the part 7 and 8 characters, after all.
We could always use them for a shenanigan fight. Like say they're still paranoid that the cartel's out looking for them and in walks Dora, someone they knew was too good to just get busted. That and given their Stands they could make for indispensable allies for the escape attempt section.
Cameron Ramirez
Me-mow got much bigger in her second appearance.
And I think Wong killing Dan and draining him for a power-up right before The Warden beats him almost effortlessly is better, but that's for later.
Adrian Rodriguez
Me-Mow's tiny in her first appearance, but human-sized in her second. Also, you know, we've had Jerry and Taffy before. My idea for Dan is that he's Retired by Dora since he's shooting up the place. Wong tries to get to him, but the prison staff drag him off before he can. Then I guess he shows up dead in Pure Imagination.
Anthony Rogers
Ehhn. I'm just not feeling it. Sorry.
Daniel Bailey
Pegleg Pete Stand: [SMOKESTACK LIGHTNING] >Appearance: A black and white, rubberhose anthropomorphic bear, dressed like Pete in Steamboat Willie and smoking a cigar >Ability: When [SMOKESTACK LIGHTNING] lights a cigar, the top of the area that it's in will be afflicted with a burning heat. As the cigar is smoked down to a stub, the heat wave will move down from the top of the room to the bottom. I dunno. Not a huge fan, but I wanted something to play on his cigar habit and the fact that he was a steamboat captain in his most famous appearance. I think he's got potential as a character, but if anyone has a better idea for his Stand, speak and be heard.
Jackson Sanders
What does [Little Girls] even do?
Jaxon Lee
He uses a specific type of melody that works off of his seriousness.
It's comedic because of how serious he is.
Connor Gonzalez
Fuck you
Evan Taylor
Ah well, worth a shot. Here's hoping I can at least still keep that concept for Rocko and GIRLS relevant then.
Noah Martinez
That idea sucks.
The drug ring was a real life cartel. We keep it ambiguous because that was their only shipment of jawbreakers, and because thecartel isn't Sup Forums styled. It sets up Dora as being a legit criminal. Her being Carmen Sandiegos daughter adds to this.
Having the regular show guys ruins it.
Charles Reyes
There's an idea here: I like the smoke one. Gives off the right kind of vibe but isn't explicit. >Squidward is looking over at Toph and Dexter. Plucky encourages him to go and speak to them. >He nervously approaches. Toph detects him, but doesn't realise it's him (his de-handsomizing threw off his body rhythms) until he speaks. >"Ah... hey, guys." Toph jumps, then scowls. "Did you hear something, Dexter? I thought I heard a traitorous scumbag, but it must've just been the wind." >"Toph, I -" She shoves him away. "Zip it. I don't care." >Dexter steps in. "Leesten, Toph. He deed not mean for any of us to get hurt, and een the tower, he fought the most fiercely of all of us." >"You think I care? He was working for them from the beginning. He brought all that shit down on our heads. He... he killed me, Dexter. If he hadn't brought those ice pops in, I wouldn't be fucking dead right now." >Toph's visibly upset, more than is characteristic for her. Dexter starts talking - "Please, Toph, he -" but Squidward cuts him off. "No, Dexter. It's okay." >He turns to Toph, who has her back to him. He takes a deep breath. "I messed up. I made a really, really stupid decision, and it's gonna stick with me forever. You, Dexter, Rolf... I cared about you, and if I hadn't been such an idiot, you might still be alive right now. You wouldn't have had to give your lives for no reason. I understand that you can't forgive me, but... I'm sorry. I really am." >Toph doesn't respond. Dexter looks sad, and Squidward slumps and begins to walk away, but then... >"No reason. Heh." >"Squiddy. We took down the devil himself. If there's anything that there's "no reason" to die for, that's sure as hell not it." >She turns around with a sad smile. "C'mon, man. Let's go talk to the others. Urban Rangers never look back, huh?" >Squidward is in tears of happy relief. The three of them walk over to join Plucky, Taffy and Cartman, who are speaking to Hank, Johnny and Courage.
Jaxon Diaz
>Here's hoping I can at least still keep that concept for Rocko and GIRLS relevant then. I'm really sorry, but that one was also one I was going to dispute. Mostly because we had both a hippo Stand and a Stand that uses others' genetic material back in part 5, in the same part, no less. I like your Stand concepts - you should keep 'em coming - I just feel like that one's a little redundant. Don't take it as an attack on your work, though.
Camden Walker
I fucking hate the Regular show guys in this part. Having Doras past shoehorned in just makes problems with the current problems. Also the bird and raccoon don't do shit.
They're slice of life characters who go inch deep in characterisation. If you have them as they are on the show, they're useless. Have them changed, and nothing of value is gained. Might as well have Bluster Kong or some shit.
Luke Ortiz
I think that idea might be based on that Australian pedo awareness cartoon where some weird ocean is used as a metaphor/visual representation of rape.
So Dora can't walk straight, or see, but she's still leaving footprints, by some stroke of luck, Clarissa's dad steps on one of them and begins following Dora's path until she bumps into him and beat the shit out of him.
Also, nice job with the continued follow up of the courthouse.
Ayden Brown
Yeah, I like that. She doesn't know where she's going, and he's going to take advantage of that, but then he steps on the footprint and he's suddenly just as lost as she is.
Josiah James
small correction: hippo Stand USER (also lawyer and porn actor).
Lucas Collins
But melody doesn't let you see stands so that still doesn't make any sense. Just give the man a stand or don't make him Warden's number two. I'd prefer the former, but whatever works for the project.
Ryder Jackson
Goodvibes' Stand, though. And it was in the same arc as Tech Coyote's cell-using Stand.
Camden Rogers
ah shit, I forgot about Goodvibes, and I was wondering which was the one that used genetic material
Cameron White
Gotcha.
Ryder Morales
Well, he wouldn't be lost since he can see through the smoke made by his stand, but he would be forced to follow the same drunken path that Dora is unknowingly making.
Andrew Brooks
I know there was talk of ex-celebrities appearing in the part. Or ex-WB executives.
Maybe Benton Tarantella from Courage and his partner? They were incarcerated. They could be pretending to do a shoot on the prison. Really they're just inmates who want to kill the others inside.
Benton would be the only one with a stand though. If we use either of them.
Anthony Scott
We're kind of overloaded on Courage characters, especially if we use Dai Lung. We already cut LeQuack from part 5, despite having the perfect Stand name for him.
Alexander Taylor
Then maybe Bernie Bernstein from the Powerpuff Girls? Or Control Freak from Teen Titans?
Though I feel like that might be pushing the "evil director" thing a bit too far. What I was going for was a dead guy who was still serving time despite being dead.
Not even death can keep you from serving time under the Warden's watch. There's probably an entire section of the prison meant for corpses reanimated by the Warden so he can keep watching them suffer until their sentence is over.
Brayden Diaz
That's kind of Dinosaur Dan's thing.
He's been serving a life sentence for the past 50,000 years at least (1 million is just too far back to go). He just hasn't died yet.
Jaxson Rogers
Breah is already ombie-like, and I guess we're using her? Nobody has said anything to the contrary.
If you want an actual zombie though, maybe Abercadaver? Though I feel like there's better "evil undead villains" out there, I can't think of many at the moment. I do feel like there was some other evil zombie villain who was sealed away inside a coffin, but I can't think of who.
Anyway, I was just suggesting him as a possibility. His stand probably mummifies people with ribbons or something. Suzie finds him attractive.
Or we could use Phantasma here instead of in part 7. Suzie's curious attraction would remain.
I think he's talking about an actual dead person revived by the Warden. Dan's longevity is because he's a Scopeman. Warden might not know this though, and may be attempting to find the secret of it maybe?
Chase Green
Does The Warden even know Dan is down there?
Noah Ward
The employees are still digging through the lower prisons, and haven't reached Dan's cell yet
Justin Wright
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I'm not sure? I assumed he did, he built the prison on top of it after all. He probably learned about Dan at some point, but probably never cared much for him outside of the mystery of how he's been down there for centuries.
Warden may have even interacted with him before. Assuming this isn't his first go around with killing games, maybe he forced Dan to participate once, and Dan survived the whole thing and won his freedom? Warden wouldn't let him leave though, just live.
Could be a good side story. I don't know.
Landon Richardson
He could've at least detected his presence through a weird highly advanced security system that can read several miles underground.
I do think Warden knew about him though. He is surprised but not shocked that there's a centuries old caveman beneath the prison.
Kayden Brown
Let's go with the Warden knows someone is down there, but hasn't had the pleasure of making his acquaintance yet.
Part of the reason why the Warden even still allows excavation teams to keep digging down through the old jails is because they'll reach whoever is down there eventually. The other part of the reason is he's a jail aficionado who likes seeing how past people did incarceration and if there's anything to gleam from them.
I think after Dora smashes Me-Mow or Dai Lung's face with a tray, she gets sent to solitary.
She's released from solitary early because she has a visitor. It's Penny Gadget. Penny offers her a deal and gives her a communicator of some kind.
Dora may have gotten out of solitary early, but she's still due for punishment and is forced to join the excavation team. Wong, seeing an opportunity, tasks Dora with finding "the first bad man" buried way down there. She does this for him, he'll help her out with something, like getting into the evidence locker.
Ayden Brooks
That'll work.
Christian Baker
Could we have Joy be the one to guide Dora's party around the prison (since she obviously knows many people and has gained many friendships through [SWEET EMOTION]'s core memories trick).
She would befriend them by offering herself to be the street smarts gal they were just needing for the journey. While she would genuinely help them during this, she's very sarcastic and bittersweet.
On the last part of the prison guiding, she somehow mind controls one (or some) of the allies by depressing them with serious emotional manipulation, leading to an shadow battle. Alternatively, she simply reveals herself as a back-stabbing traitor and tries to kill them through traps and mental manipualtion.
James Cruz
I feel like that would be good, only I'm worried, don't we already have a traitor plot like that?
But otherwise, that is a pretty nice idea. I could see it.
Lucas Phillips
Also, it was suggested last thread that (after being defeated) even though she offers herself to be useful to them just one last time as a final act, they kill her anyway because of how disgusted they were at how she manipulated them.
I think it is a good way to say "your intentions come before your rensponsabilities".
Benjamin Hernandez
Yes, because no one in the history of Sup Forumsco/ has EVER been given characterization outside of canon.
We are literally pitching Dora as a drug smuggler, sky's the fucking limit.
Owen Wilson
Something that's been bothering me... Do we have an explanation for the emergence of stands in the Sup Forumsco/ universe?
Dylan Martin
They're like an ascended form of MELODY, which is toon physics.
I feel a plot like that would need time to mature, and that Suzie would already be wise to Joy's tricks and steer Dora away from her.
