Was this the best decade for film?

Was this the best decade for film?

nah, the world wars and shit ruined it

>1940
Didn't ruin shit.

>1940
>hays code still in effect
'no'

80s was best, had the comfort of the 60s and ideas of the 2010's but done with sweet 80s tech.

80s forever.

>ideas of the 2010

but there are no modern ideas. It's all trash or has been thought of before.

No, the previous decade was.

The Hays Code was a good thing. Only a handful of films were weakened by it. Most subjects it forbade could still be addressed with the right codedness, and most viewers learned how to read those codes, which made them more sophisticated than they would have been otherwise. If the Hays Code was still in force, audience behavior would be different, probably all the way down to their social behavior in the theater.

Half of the people reject 80s neoconservatism and the neoliberalism that spawned it on conservative grounds, the other half reject it on socialist grounds, so how exactly did the 80s have "ideas of the 2010s", dicksmoker? If you mean ideas about cinema, you're wrong. And how did that decade have "the comfort of the 60s"? What does that even mean? The only people who felt comfortable in the 60s, left or right, were high.

Grapes of Wrath
It was a better, whiter time.

This. The Hays Code was in effect and every other movie was WWII propaganda.

1930s > 1940s

Nah, the 60s up until like 1968 were still pretty much just the 50s

It wasn't until the late 60s/early 70s that society really started collapsing with the huge spike in crime, race riots, economic recessions, energy crisis, etc

The Grapes of Wrath is a great film, and it's from the 30s, because 1940 is a 10 - the 40s start with 1941.

Gone with the Wind was made during the Hays Code

Your argument is invalid

No, huge social changes were happening throughout the decade, don't generalize about history when you can't even be bothered to read it.

Give me one good reason why the Hays Code should be regarded as a bad thing.

>1941

So Citizen Kane then?

Gone with the Wind is boring shit.

70's

Yeah, and lots of other good stuff, but not as much as the previous decade.

I have always thought that the so called golden age of Hollywod was n the 20s or 30s.

>Gone with the Wind is boring shit.
t. scalawag

Frankly, user, I don't give a damn.

That's an embarrassing opinion to have


But most the changes didn't filter down to society until the 1970s

1. 1970s
2. 1960s
3. 1990s

anything else is wrong.

t. hasn't watched anything before the 60s

The 1930s was the best decade when you take into account Hollywood, independent American, avant-garde, European and Japanese filmmaking. That's just taking into account the major countries. In a lot of places, half of the 40s was spent making propaganda, the other half was spent making stuff about war trauma. The general style of films became more conservative in the 40s, not less, a few remarkable works aside.

Yeah this, the films I like all tend to fall in the early-mid 70s.

You're simply incorrect. The contraceptive pill, JFK's assassination and the racial tensions that culminated in the signing of the Civil Rights Act all happened by 1964. Those three factors basically shaped everything that followed.

The only decade that can touch the 30s is the 70s, but the 70s falls down on Hollywood productions - there are about as many worthwhile Hollywood movies made during the 70s as were made in any given year of the 30s.

And what do you want that niggers can't even take the bus???

Look back. I said:
> And how did that decade have "the comfort of the 60s"? What does that even mean? The only people who felt comfortable in the 60s, left or right, were high.

The point is, everyone was on edge at some point during that decade because of the social changes, and a lot of people were on edge the whole time, so what is the "comfort" user is talking about?

Well I like the 50's as it had loads of Sci-fi B rated movies. Most started with The...Lol Like The brain that wouldn't die and The attack of the 50Ft. woman...etc.

i like the 50s movies started getting a bit riskier and black and white was much more crisper the movies looked great visually

this too

They started getting ASS and the black and white was much more ASS, you mean. Seas of gray, the dread Method acting, and some guy with a pompadour agonizing over how he might be - get this - a little bit gay.

underrated

What are some risky movies from the 50s?

Just look!

I fucking hate Zorro.

The 70s were the best. Industry people still had lots of pride and standards and filming technique had evolved so there was a great mix of interesting camerwork and serious storytelling/dialogue. Alien is a good example. The 80s brought us a lot of fun movies but things got dumber and started the whole blockbuster/sequel-prequel shit we're being drowned in today.

>I fucking hate Zorro.

t. el scalawago

Then why don't you kill your self?

50s-70s are the best. Tbh 60s are best for foreign films, 50s are best for Hollywood studio classics, and 70s are best for new Hollywood.

You have no soul, Don Quintero.

Jaws and Star Wars started the blockbuster shit.

Total horseshit. Hollywood in the 70s was on its knees, filming technique had degraded, the fact that only college kids were still going to the movies meant that barely competent young directors were promoted as auteurs right out the gate, the real greats were neglected, outside the system, unemployed or dead, and the reason so many talkpieces got produced was cheapness.

I'd rather have boring movies than the rampant social degeneracy of today. But since there's no putting that genie back in the bottle, might as well enjoy it.

The 30s was the best because it has more international masterpieces, more Hollywood classics, and more striking film art and fresh aesthetic disoveries than new Hollywood, which was the worst thing happening in cinema in the 70s by some way.

40s had the Code in full effect. This made for better movies because the filmmakers had to find ways to get around it and be more profound and subtle.

The high number of low-budget movies fromt hat decade made fimmakers stretch themselves creatively and lots of their techniques became staples of filmmaking.

There were some very sexy movies produced in the Hays Code era.

2000 onwards = peak cinema

Kiss me deadly

This. The fact they couldn't show stuff made them want to try and skirt and stretch the code even more.

Why is it better than the 30s, which had both pre-Code and the Code, and an equal number of low-budget movies?

What are some others?

t. reddit cuck

Just die already, old man.

What kind of bullshit rationalization is this?

> Most subjects it forbade could still be addressed with the right codedness

if you think making a double entendre that hints at the existence of the subject is the same thing as "addressing it"

Equal number?

Source.

And the MPPC wasn't in FULL EFFECT until 1942.

Zorro is just capeshit for film snobs.

It's actually better. Adressing a subject directly is not creative.

I think the 1930s were slightly better but both decades are better than what we've been served in the last 17 years.

The 70s are the best.
Sam Peckinpah, David Lynch, Terry Gilliam, David Cronenberg, Stanley Kubrick, Martin Scorsese, Werner Herzog... At the top of their art and studios were foolish enough to give them all powers.

Guess after Heaven's Gate, studios thought that it was better to gain control on these crazies.

Now, you have to be able to sell toys, please the crowd of chinese plebs and make sure the movie is safe for the whole family.

I didn't say "making a double entendre", I said "addressed". There are films from that era where the entire plot hinges on a really obvious unspoken plot element that the kids and idiots in the audience won't perceive but everyone else does. On other occasions, something will be plainly depicted and then, when the entire audience has registered it, explained away with some really unconvincing token line which is designed merely to keep the Legion of Decency off the producer's back while leaving no doubt as to what's really being depicted. It was more sophisticated than what followed.

No it's not. If there's less restrictions on an artist then they can address the subject in more depth, and that's when they can be the most creative.

The hays code just meant that any "banned" subject could only be insinuated in passing.

What's your source for saying there were more in the 40s?

No, the Code was in effect from 1934.

They're not as good as you think. A lot of their shit was Tarantino-esque edgy rip-offs of older movies scenes, characters, camera shots and dialogue.

The sophistication you're speaking of can be achieved without regulatory bodies. It would just be an artistic choice, and not something imposed on the director to not offend puritanical sensibilities.

If you're that disappointed about modern movies being shallow, then stop watching shallow modern movies.

Full effect=/=in effect

Source is the number of American films made in the 1930s and 40s and their budget.

Besides, the 30s was the fucking Depression you historically challenged kid. From 29 to 39.
There was less movies and less money to go around on smaller projects for the studios.

Nope.

>Sam Peckinpah,
Talentless cokehead with a completely bogus worldview.

>David Lynch,
Nothing to do with the studios in the 70s, he was at the AFI Conservatory, a film school.

>Terry Gilliam
He only made Jabberwocky in the 70s, a British production for no money, and bits of Life of Brian, another British production.

>David Cronenberg,
His 70s films after Crimes of the Future were made on a tax shelter basis for a couple of Quebecois exploitation producers, they were low-budget, made in the same months every year, and no real commercial risk to anyone - they were sold as horror movies.

>Stanley Kubrick,
Went out of his way to make Clockwork Orange low-budget to start his WB contract on a good note.

>Martin Scorsese,
His only really expensive film of the decade was a total disaster.

>Werner Herzog
Was making low-budget films in Germany the entire decade with no "studio" involvement in the sense you mean, dipshit.

Your opinions are gabby Peter Biskind cliche, get an education.

70s > 60s > 30s > 50s > 80s > 90s > 2000s > 2010s > 20s > 40s > 1910s > 1900s > 1890s

>The hays code just meant that any "banned" subject could only be insinuated in passing.

No. That's not how the MPPC worked.

No, you got the date wrong.

No, that's an assertion, provide sources for it.

You've just confirmed that you know nothing about this subject and are bluffing, the Depression was great for the movie industry. There were more movies, because less was being spent on them individually, and huge profits. Smaller projects didn't come second in those days, they were the bread-and-butter. Get educated.

Clearly it can't. The industry adopted the Hays Code as an alternative to being locked out of certain parts of the country. These were majority values. If it hadn't been forced to for its own survival, it would never have adopted a code of restraint. Adopting it improved it.

I don't watch shallow modern movies.

It might have been necessary to survive then, but that's not a good argument for it. The dumbing down of mainstream movies was necessary to survive later, and that's what you're complaining about.

In both cases artists were forced to make the movies they didn't want to make.

>american education

Just because you act like a know-it-all doesn't eman we don't see you for the uneducated pleb you are.

The MPAA BEGAN to enforce it in 1934, but it didn't reach FULL EFFECT until 1942. There was alot of legal battels fought between 1934 and 1942 between some of the studios and the MPAA. The legal disputes were resolved in favor of the MPAA in 1942. This is FACT. It coincided with the OWI (Office of War Information)'s formation and both organizations.worked hand in hand from that point on for war propaganda. The war and the need for propaganda was the main reason the courts let the MPAA enforce the Code fully and rejected any kind of appeal from the studios.

Crack a book, attitude is nothing without the facts to back it up.

80s or 90s.

The 60s is by far the most forgettable decade. Seriously, name 10 absolute classics from it that everybody knows and loves.

You wrecked him so hard that you killed the thread, mutherfucker!

Noice

This is subjective of course, but I found pre 70's cinematography often stale or pompous. Which greats were neglected?

Psycho
2001
Bullit
NOTLD
The Dirty Dozen
Planet of the Apes
Dr. Strangelove
Bonnie&Clyde
West Side Story
Lawrence of Arabia
The Birds
Rosemary's Baby
TGTBATU
Spartacus
In the Heat of the Night
The Sound of Music
Goldfinger

I could go on. I could even google it, but I won't.

so fucking what, point is that a lot of capable people worked in that period, creating a lot of great movies.

2001
The good the bad and the ugly
Au hasard Balthazar
Blow up
Last year at Marienbad
Andrei Rublev
Persona
8 1/2
Breathless
Lawrence of Arabia

easy

Then why didn't you name ONE?

Fucking lobster.

Half of these are shit and half of them are completely unknown to "everybody".

> half of them are completely unknown to "everybody".

what a dumb way to judge the quality of a movie

in the 60's they were
not my problem modern audiences can only deal with capeshit
also these aren't my favorites from the 60s but there is not one single 'shit' movie in there, plen

Clockwork Orange
Alien
Apocalypse Now
Taxi Driver
One flew over the cn
Eraserhead
Godfather
Star Wars
Stalker
and so on

are you capable of discussing things without spewing insults like a 13 year old? thanks

Holy shit, go watch a few movies and come back you fucking kid. What are you even doing on tv? Most people not even into movies know about them Are you fucking 11 yo?

Seriuosly, I know you're just trolling so you can "be right on the internet" but I'm fucking mad right now you little fuck!

I agree. Good thing no one here has done that.

fucking Contrarians. These movies are boring as shit now. They're terrible.

Those.. are not people.

wtf?? are you high/drunk/sleepy or something?

You're the one who gets mad about other peoples opinions, grow up

You obviously never watched any. Nothing wrong with that, but that doesn't mean that waht you think they are is what they actually are.

Comedies of that era had a faster pacing than the ones now (they make Girlmore Girls look like the slow retard child of the class). As an example.

You said "name one" which could be understood as reference to either movies or industry people. Either way you surely are capable of figuring out who made those movies.

Well, there sure is enough capeshit to keep you entertained.

No reason to be mad. I specifically asked for well known movies and some of those movies are not.

>Au hasard Balthazar
>Blow up
>Last year at Marienbad

Are you really suggesting the regular man in the street knows about these movies?

That was not an opinion. Do you even know words?

Yes. Ask someone close at hand now. Go ahead. I bet you my bottom dollar they know 2 out of these 3 movies.

Of course it was.

The man in the street doesn't know about 2001 or any of those movies because they don't watch movies except for stuff released in the theaters now.
Anyone who watches movies aside from modern capeshit know about Bresson, Antonioni and Resnais.