>You now realize that somewhere out there in the expanse of space, a planet is being both invaded and defended against using machinations of unfathomable technology
How long does the Earth truly have left, Sup Forums? Will we even be worth enslaving when an alien race comes our way?
How do you know we aren't the most advanced life form, or indeed the only sentient life form in the universe?
space it too big, we're never going to encounter an alien species of any kind
This
Sorry Trekkies, space has too much fucking space
Well, don't you think they would ignore us in the same way we ignore natives living in isolated areas of the Amazon rainforest?
Also, if they had humble beginnings they may be super peaceful but carrying a galactic stick kind of beings.
Maybe they will even be impressed with our speed of improvement.
And then, of course, there is the idea that we may not be within talking or walking distance of anybody. Who cares about them when they are 1,000,000,000 ly away.
It's literally impossible that we are the only sentient life form, but it's highly possible that we'll never contact them
As for the OP, the more advanced and civilized a society gets, the more SJWs will come out of it. Aliens are most likely all SJWs and if they ever contact us they'll probably go full "humans welcome" and "human lives matter" anyway
I am a Quangiblion.
You guys are neglecting to add multi-dimensional beings to the equation .
Space is too damn big, life is too damn unlikely, and the laws of physics are too damn unbreakable.
The earth has plenty of time, even if it's without humans, life has been resilient through many extinction events.
Given the likely rarity of live in the universe, aliens would probably find us interesting at least.
Unless we travel through wormholes
what a depressing ride life will be if the theory that we have to coexist with some lifeform is wrong
>You now realize that somewhere out there in the expanse of space, a planet is being both invaded and defended against using machinations of unfathomable technology
Silly assumption.
We could be among the first wave of sentient species in the universe.
We could be among the last of the sentient species in the universe, as all other sentient species have already gone extinct.
We could be the only sentient species in the universe.
Interstellar travel could be impossible, rendering the entire issue moot.
All other sentient life could be 100% peaceful (and we'll call them Dindoos when we meet them.)
We could be living in a simulation without other actors.
Maybe war itself becomes obsolete with sufficient levels of technology (kind of like MAD but on a much grander scale).
I don't know, I'm not really worried about a sci-fi invasion. Too many possibilities for our little imagining of a war between alien species to be accurate.
Why do you think they have a war mentality like us? You think everyone one us retarded like us out there? I hope not.
Xenos?
and then people call us stupid for believing in God
>literally impossible
moron.
>How long does the Earth truly have left.
5-10 years.
It will be from outer space. But not aliens.
>>We have no wings so we will never be able fly.
The only way for other sentient beings to contact us is to biologically engineer themselves to be able to withstand the time it takes to traverse space. It is impossible or at least seemingly impossible to go faster than the speed of light. If other sentient life exists on other planets, and they are more advanced than us, it will still take them millions of years to contact us.
And even when they do manage to contact us, we'll never see their planet or learn anything about them really. It won't be like a sci fi tv show or movie where a bunch of alien races traverse space. We'd have to physically overcome death for that to happen to the point that by the time we even reached another planet with sentient life Earth wouldn't even be habitable anymore.
>It's literally impossible
stop
>[citation needed]
It's interesting to think about a post-human world. If all humans somehow got wiped out and went extinct in some cataclysmic disaster... the world would go quite for another 20 million years or so..
But it;s likely other species may would reach sentience. They will form tribes, societies, civilizations. The crazy thing is when they start to uncover what we left behind. When they start to uncover our cities, and technology they will get 'boosted' up by hundreds if not thousands of years.
This will likely allow them to make it further than we ever did.
Go back to the start of your life and try again.
>being the most advanced species in the universe
>mfw surended by niggers
This is why the whole "theyl'l just nuke themselves when they get to a certain point" doesn't float.
In evoloutionary time, even if THEY nuke themselves. Whatever evolves on that planet after them will have such an amazing boost to their technology from looking at the ruins/relics that theyl'l be 'caught up' in a fraction of the time.
all species are sentient, autist. do you mean intelligent?
Well given the chances for life in any given time, it's pretty much close to impossible.
can we stop with the cant go faster than the speed of light meme
i'm sure on some turbo dimensional level that the rule could be broken or surpassed
What are the chances they aren't sentient and are just hivemind bugs that found a way to sustain and breed in moving space bug colonies that could eventually float to us and consume our planet
Yes
Guys honestly I think that if we ever do find aliens they will be humans as well.
Humans are the only form of intelligence we know until now.
Following atheist doctrine with the tiny chances of life happening, why on earth would it not always be humans?
Following religion, then other intelligent beings would also be human.
>We'll eventually be able to travel interstellar distances on human lifespans because we can understand how wings cause lift in an atmosphere
>squid people evolve
>discover treasure troves of tentacle porn
>take it as prophecy that the ancients will return and fuck the squids
>entire species mission is bring humans back from extinction and fuck em
just they wait until we make it to the stars
Those have no reason to give a shit about us and even if they do they could observe us without us noticing them.
They still can't travel faster than the speed of light so my point still stands
Uh prove it then
>>No Neo-Cortex
>>Can't understand analogies, or modeling.
>uh prove it dude
>uh just prove that the relativity theory holds outside of our universe or holds true in all aspects instead of our fucking virtual reality course
Have you watched superman? Different planets, different environments. I don't think that they will be like humans. Maybe they will though.
>m sure on some turbo dimensional level that the rule could be broken
that's called faith.
There's no reason to assume that we can break natural law or that there's any method which will allow this concept to occur in reality. there are lots of things which can never exist, FTL is one of them.
We'll all be dead before aliens reach us.
>all species are sentient
>breed and sustain
My point is the intial bugs will all have died off but they will still be able to continuously breed and spawn new broods that then breed etc etc
Its like you didn't even read my post, also captcha
>why on earth would it not always be humans?
do you mean humanoid, or are you suggesting any aliens will be literately just humans?
yeah that's what I fucking thought kid
I believe that liberalism is a natural disease of society that affects even basic animals, and will collapse any society long before it reaches the stars.
You didn't even read my post, because it will still take them billions of years to get here as that is how long space travel takes because they can't go faster than the speed of light. if and when they do get here we won't even exist anymore, our planet may not even be habitable anymore.
You're now a religious tier faither.
>Have you watched superman?
user, please.
I think environments could play a role on how the beings look, but generally I think all beings would be humanoid.
Personally dont know, but if we exist like this its because of a reason.
And that reason would transcend planets, at least in order to be intelligent and advanced.
Given that to all intents and purposes time and space are infinite, the chances of there being intelligent life out there, right now, are virtually non-existant.
What guarantees that we aren't the most advanced? Maybe this is it.
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Mate, niggers are barely sentient.
Because of the chaos theory and the butterfly effect.
Small changes in the system's starting settings have massive changes in the system's end settings. Especially when those settings are as far apart from each other as they are.
I mean, we evolved from bacteria essentially. These bacteria have a certain configuration that was essentially naturally selected from sets of random mutations.
A bacteria with a small change in how it digests things... taken forward through almost a billion years of evoloution is likely to produce changes that we can hardly even comprehend.
That might mean tentacles, and such... or it might mean certain structures and organelles that we can't even imagine.
Creatures with Nuclear furnaces as a digestive system that don't eat other living things, they just consume other matter.
I mean plants split out from us a billion years ago. They developed basically organic solar panels that work NOTHING like anything else in the animal kingdom. But they still started as the same thing we started as.
How can we possibly IMAGINE what something that DIDN'T have the same origin as us would end up in. I mean they could literally have evolved wheels.
"Sentient" and "intelligent" in human terms. If life exists that can travel across space, it might view humans are inconsequential, or even view us as non-sentient or unintelligent.
So a lot of the reasons we exist as we do are the cause of planetary disasters. Like for example, if the dinosaurs didn't die out from an asteroid hitting Earth, small mammals wouldn't have been able to evolve into large mammals and then us. The planet would still be dominated by dinosaurs.
So your theory is kind of moot.
>you now realize that BETA exist even in the original timeline
I thought the "speed of light limit" was only a postulate/assumption.
Wow, I'm guessing that this thread is filled with CTR people because of these kinds of posts. Liberals are too dumb to discuss these things.
>creatures with wings actually exist
>creatures that can travel interstellar distances don't (to our knowledge)
Liberalism is only a problem with a heterogenic civilisation.
In a 100% homogenous race and civilisation it could work. Even communism makes more sense there.
you literally dont understand what impossible means you dumb wop
The idea of going faster than the speed of light creates a few paradoxes. It's equivalent to time travel and would require nearly infinite energy, for example.
>most advanced
>majority still believes everybody is exactly the same and thus equal
We're retarded
Insectoids are the real redpill. Time to find a brainbug and join the overmind.
>implying they started yesterday
The bugs have been coming for eons, splintering, evolving, conquering
They are already here, the seed is planted
Basically the only possibility of going faster than the speed of light is if wormholes are real or black holes don't just completely kill you (if you could even survive going through one or even getting slightly near one) and actually take you somewhere else in space/time. Which we will pretty much never know.
So yeah, pretty fucking impossible. The only way to travel space is to evolve to live for millions or billions of years in a single lifespan. That's about it.
The human brain is the crazy part.
I mean in all of our sci-fi the aliens look wierd but still are mostly human in terms of how they 'think' and 'act'.
Move there, kill that, take over this, conquer that for resources.
It's likely a brain that evolved in a completely different ecosystem may not have any understanding of any of that. "Attacking" might not even be a thing to them.
The human brain or infact any brain on earth is complex as fuck and to have some 'control' system on the creature evolve seperately to us will very likely have a completely different perception of the world and what to do in it.
I mean we developed things like aggression, jealousy, territoriality because those things were important to us when we were evolving. What if the creature evolved in a planet where those things werne't important?
What if they never evolved sexuality? And they still reproduce by macro splitting? What if they eat matter itself and thus never really valued territoriality, they have no concept of 'This is my land".
The most versed ufologists of all time all concur that aliens are in fact demomic in origin.
They claim to have flown all the way across the galaxy to tell you jesus isnt real.
Wow. Really makes you think.
Imagine on some other planet aliens argue over Xan'gor the savior vs Atheism.
I welcome the Overlords.
it is the absolute limit of speed in our 3d space
however, there was an inflation period at the beginning of the big bang, where space itself expanded faster than the speed of light
the expansion slowed down for a while but is currently expanding faster than light again.
the expansion is fueled by this dark energy that is seeping into our 3d space, making space more spacier
gravity and dark matter keeps stuff together while space actually grows
but we have no idea if this stuff is exploitable yet.
Why would a species that lives and breeds within space and somehow apparently lives for millions of years in a single life span, come to Earth, and hide here? What would even be the point?
It's more plausible they would visit us once and then continue on because they still have little time to keep traveling the rest of the universe discovering more species, as they still only live millions of years in a single lifespan and just traveling to one galaxy would be enough to do that.
My thought is, although it isnt backed by anything,
That all beings would eventually develop into one final perfect being. Regardless of origin.
A perfect being be a universal point, regardless of origin because it is perfect in every sense and scenario.
Might sound ridiculous, it does a bit, but think about the thought without prejudice.
I mean we developed the idea of god because we evolved in tribal groups that had alpha males. That something exists that's infinitely more powerful than us and benevolent is a direct extension of the 'alpha male' or 'father' idea.
IF the aliens never even evolved sexual reproduction let alone tribalism... it's likely they may never even have had any ideas about 'god'.
God damn you are a fucking retard. You're talking about a "disaster" in human terms and applying it on a universal scale. You do realize that if we accept the Big Bang as fact, and evidence currently suggests that it's our best model for the origin of the universe, then everything that we perceive is all part of one incomprehensibly large explosion spanning the origin of the known universe to the current moment. If we talk about the natural progression from the birth of the universe to sentient life, then out very existence demonstrates that "disasters" such as mass extinction events are a necessary part of this progression, undermining what little argument you may have been trying to make.
Because there are other animals on earth that are sentient. You're thinking of sapient. Homophobia SAPIENS.
Sorry for the autism.
We will all die over imaginary borders and skin pigmentation long before it.
>The most versed ufologists of all time all concur
>mexican intellectuals
>takes photo of his post with grammatical error
>still does not fix grammatical error
IT'S STARING YOU IN THE FACE LAUGHING AT YOUR STUPIDITY FIX THIS SHIT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
It will be easy for sure. Globalists have the right idea of a united earth sadly they are doing it out of petty greed. Higher level greed would have been terraforming mars and exploiting the asteroid belt(if theres anything useful) but they said fuck that i want an extra shekel here on earth instead of billions of shekels amongst the stars.
I don't think so.
I mean look at a tree. The branches of a tree are diverging not converging. Sure they do converge incidentally... but when that happens in the animal kingdom it causes a conflict for space and usually one species remains.
Maybe your right we might end up as a final perfect being... But that won't be due to convergent evolution, as it will be due to the perfect being making everything else extinct either violently, or just by existing.
>Our technology and understanding of the universe is completely stagnant. A Jew from the early 20th century said we couldn't travel faster than light, ergo we will never travel faster than light. The things written in our science textbooks today will never change. We know everything.
Never bet against human ingenuity. If there's a loophole somewhere, we'll find it.
Why the fuck did my phone correct homo to homophobia.
Is it the kikes?
It's not your fault, user.
I don't even know what the fuck you're talking about or what it is has to do with what the person I'm quoting is even talking about. Are you okay dude? Like what exactly do you think I'm trying to argue here?
Because that guy was talking about how other beings from other planets would definitely be humans, and I said a lot of the reason we became the dominant species on Earth is because of planetary disasters, so thus other planets would have to have similar outcomes and it just doesn't seem plausible. So they probably wouldn't resemble "humans" at all.
Nah it sounds retarded, see above.
Okay so we just literally have to defy the laws of physics which are pretty set in stone at this point. Yeah that's totally going to happen. I get that it's cool to be all "BUT THE POSSIBILITIES" about science but you're just kind of sounding really retarded instead
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If you look at the amount of different types of life on Earth, even other intelligent species that have existed, like Neanderthals, you will realise how fucking stupid that statement is.
Given the scale and complexity of the universe. Given that specific species evolve to suit their habitat. Given the random distribution of elements throughout the universe, and the amount of different environments said randomness generates, how can you be remotely confident that what you just said isn't complete and utter horseshit.
DID SOMEBODY SAY ALIENS?!?
this is retarded
Or upload your conscious into a singulrity.
Copy and paste it into the ship's hard drive. Send it out into space with a 100% copy of all the humans still on Earth as our representatives...
They will be immortal and probably be connected via some form of internet where they will post memes eternally until they reach some other planet.
The millenia of memes though would have warped the singularity into some sort meme crazed lunatics that will land on the planet and I dunno, enslave the local populace to build frog statues for ever.
And we're somewhat close to that technology. (I mean in the next few hundred years).
The BETA are propably some of the most well-done aliens in any form of media.
They feel truly 'alien' and otherwordly.
And the fact that noone knows anything about them till the end of Alternative makes them even better.
By the time a creature reaches sentience, all tech on our planet will have been weathered away.
No forget animal kingdom and all of that. Also I am referring to intelligent beings in general.
Species may diverge, same way we diverged from apes to a path of higher intelligence.
But what I am saying is that the idea of perfection is universal. Regardless of any constraint you may think of.
And if extraterrestrial life exists, to them the perfect being would be the same as to us. Why? Because perfection exist regardless and can be perceived by all.
However, chances are that like you said, once a species has reached this perfect form, instead of waiting for the rest to catch up, they would use them to their own benefit or kill them.
Im not saying we re perfect, but an example of this would be how human intelligence allows us to develop technology and use other species to our advantage.
The idea of monotheistic God was developed during Babylonian captivity 600 - 700 YEARS BC.
Idea of gods was earlier but again was a social construct.
Animism was the central spiritual theme of primitive cultures, and usually they had a shaman whose entire purpose was to help others in need to enter a trance like state.
If aliens have conscious minds most likely anything that we invented they could have done it as well.
>there is no other evidence that religion existed in human culture before humans reached behavioral modernity.
What if asteroids are actually ayylium nukes?
Well you could try that Alcubierre drive but we need a shit load more energy for that.
Yeah that is basically what I said about biologically engineering ourselves to live longer here: Unfortunately instead of investing resources into mapping the brain or bioengineering people are investing into "BUT MUH FASTER THAN SPEED OF LIGHT WARP DRIVE STAR TREK" fantasy, which will pretty much get us fucking NOWHERE in the frontier of space travel. These people are not scientists, they're fucking delusional nerds.
Debatable. We cannot be certain that anything outside the self is actually conscious - not even other humans. We can only trust that other humans are conscious beings. It becomes even foggier with lower life-forms. Is a dog self-aware? Probably. But what about an earthworm? Probably not. We would only be able to describe an alien being as sentient if it was intelligent and able to communicate that sense of sentience with us.
If the universe is infinite, then if you travel far enough, things should start repeating themselves.