>B-but Chinese people are dirt poor and all we need to do is to stop buying their stuff and their economy will crash!
Well, looks like this wont work anymore. They will soon become the biggest consumers in the world, just as they are already the biggest global middle-class.
Economically, it is impossible. No amount of sanctions will break an economy that is based on domestic consumption. And energy embargoes doesnt work either since China now effectively control central asia along with Russia, not to mention having Russia as a reliable source of oil, gas and agricultural products.
We had a good 200+ year run but it's over now, it's time to let other countries have their place in the spotlight
Jose Price
Don't go until you finish and release GTA 6 and 7
Ian Barnes
>inb4 Take Two interactive isn't based in NY and the entire development, marketing and distribution takes place at Rockstar North
Gavin Barnes
Marry a Chinese woman now so your children don’t have to suffer under them.
Jason Reed
every empire must fall, my ANCESTORS know something 'bout that.
Lincoln Richardson
meanwhile america purposefully killed their commercial and industrial supply chains
Dylan Nguyen
Get ready for every piece of media to pander for the chinese even more
Levi Cook
This.
It’s evident that we have degraded as a nation and actually become stupid enough as a peoples to put someone like Don Cheeto in our country’s highest office.
if another celebrity wins in your next election i'll consider your run over
Liam Smith
consumption driven growth is literally a ponzi scheme of debt
Jayden Gutierrez
this. chinks will go back to eating dogs and reforming commie death squads once their econ bubble bursts
Jonathan Bell
What bothers me most is that China will start producing worthwhile entertainment in the next decade probably, so I'll have to learn Chinese or relegate myself to irrelevant old man status. I'm already stretched pretty fucking thin with four languages, fuck this.
Eli Rogers
>How can the West contain them now?
By economical and political integration.
Say yes to the Atlantic Union, the Occidental Federation, the United States of the West.
Jace Reyes
Be thankful you have more than one unlike me. I am garbage at languages so for you its just like learning to ride a more complicated bicycle after learning how to ride 4 others.
Thomas Stewart
>debt-fueled consumption in the U.S. is not a ponzi scheme but in China it is
Blake Phillips
>a country with 1.38 billion people is expected to reach retail consumption of a country with 323.1 million people ok
Jordan Wood
you are supposed to ahead because it's measured in USD. you guys are richer per capita then they are and have a higher nominal and similar PPP GDP.
Adam Taylor
Every time I try to read an economic article about China its 'middle-class growing inequality', 'growing corruption', 'housing/construction bubble', 'government owned debt' or 'disproportionate inland development' that will end them
Brayden Cruz
>you guys are richer per capita which is precisely why we are still ahead despite having less than a fourth of their population. What is your point here?
James Gonzalez
the objective of their government is to sustain their growth rates and catch up in that aspect, he's saying you could possibly decline and that you should make assessments based on projected figures, as conservative as they can be
David Hill
S-should I learn chinese.
Nathaniel Gutierrez
that you guys are supposed to be ahead in RETAIL consumption given the fact that you guys are richer. the population is irrelevant in the consumption statistic because it's measured in USD value, not in physical quantity of consumption.
Noah Campbell
I, for one, would like to welcome our new overlords
James Williams
because that's the truth. their economy is in such shitty condition unless a miracle happens they're fucked
Tyler Russell
>the population is irrelevant in the consumption statistic because it's measured in USD value Am I talking to an actual teenager right now? Go back and reread what you just typed >the objective of their government is to sustain their growth rates and catch up in that aspect yes >he's saying you could possibly decline and that you should make assessments based on projected figures I have no doubt in my mind that these projections are inaccurate. Its just so blatantly obvious that the country with over 4 times the population that is modernizing will eventually reach our retail consumption. Its so obvious in fact that im surprised that people are shocked by this.
Samuel Lewis
I have no doubt in my mind that these projections are accurate* editing error
James Cruz
But we'll always be taller.
Jose Williams
Literally how is this even news? I honestly thought they passed us long ago already. They have 20% of the worlds population
Josiah Bell
people, myself included, tend to still think in terms of the economic competition days, how your dominance is being threatened by China, too much focus on irrelevant issues in the media these days
God help him. At least they're making good use of our resources, because of idiotic Islamists in government, but at a certain point they will default on Chinese debt one too many times and we'll really, really suffer that time. We already admitted 1 million Chinese nationals because of debt conditions, our population is 40 mil and that's quite a lot
Dylan Cooper
Where should we put the capital? I choose Rio.
Liam Diaz
God help them*, don't know why but was transfixed on Xi Jinping and the annoucements at his party congress while writing this
Lucas Barnes
population is irrelevant to the consumption statistic because it's a measurement of value. the total sales is 5.8 trillion. we are comparing countries, not individuals in OP's article. secondly, on your point of per capita, the US citizen spends 4x as much as a Chinese national. but you also make more then 4 times their PPP per capita GDP. what is telling is that the rate in which the Chinese are consuming and the decline of American consumption, the rates have matched and in the future it's projected that china will surpass america. GDP PPP capita was less then 4k in 2000 and right now slightly above 14k, almost 4x growth in 18 years while retail consumption is up 12x in the same period.
Adam Allen
>population is irrelevant to the consumption statistic because it's a measurement of value >we are comparing countries, not individuals in OP's article Im not even comparing individuals here. Im saying that this literally isnt news because it is guaranteed that the chinese are going to pass us in this regard because of their population. China is a massive country that is still modernizing so it has far more room to grow than America or anyone else in the world so posting growth rates is misleading at best. China is destined to overtake the US in most major economic metrics for the same reason that the US is higher than every european country. So tell me again why you are in any way surprised that this happened? Im honestly wondering why it didnt happen sooner.
Ian Diaz
GTA is British your spastic >200 years You were only relevent post ww2
Kevin Gonzalez
I know I posted this
Jonathan Cox
Actually China is one of the world leaders in genetic research.
Ryan Lewis
Yes but China has 1 billion people more than usa, no ?
Good desu they hated the new star wars, I actually want to see attractive characters in films and video games.
Daniel Rogers
South Sudan? The government after making their lives absolute hell since the 50's is enjoying every massacre, sending arms to the opposing group (Riak Machir), publishing every negative detail daily on their 'owned' newspapers. They're psychotic and savage
Eli Smith
*vetoes*
Lincoln Sanchez
>When does good news about your rival get clicks?
Why do Americans see China as a rival? Over here all the news about China is about pandas or business men salivating about business opportunities in China or them investing monies here. So China is seen in a pretty positive light.
Blake Watson
Rare pepe
Owen Foster
I did not think that China could overtake the US in retail sales while being 4x poorer per capita then the united states. given the savings rate in comparison, 46% vs 18%, i figured China would not be able to easily switch into a consumer economy this quickly while maintaining such a high savings rate.
Brayden Walker
FUCKING COMMIES
Xavier Stewart
It was during Hollande le Soft era. Macron is now in da place.
Michael Harris
ANY DAY NOW
Jayden Nelson
well at least it will make companies close their diversity departments
Jeremiah Johnson
>Starting an unprovoked war against a major economic partner
brainlet
Dominic Lopez
*kowtows*
Gabriel James
They're slowly investing in and buying up you and your German masters economic protectorates.
Nathaniel Kelly
Not take that per capita Hmm, lets see shall we? Also, what about those rural areas where people still live like in the dark ages?
Blake Rodriguez
It's already over
Jayden Reed
>your German masters
Love this meme from nowhere
Kayden Williams
why didn't the US nuke every non-western region while they were still in charge?
Dominic Harris
>muh macron he won't change the rules, his attempt at screening chinese investment will fail China has already bought out Southern and Eastern Europe and president mircron will just get vetoed if he ever tries to go against Chinese interests
Andrew Clark
Yeah. Few people publish good news about China. It doesn’t get clicks.
Americans are always scared of any perceived challenger.
Macron wants to make the world great again with China. =]
Drumpf hasn’t put one tariff on China yet. Even he is not that retarded
Kevin Parker
So countries who don't fallow EU policy will simply leave this union,bastards traitors.
Jose Lopez
>hurdur a developing country should be a developed country What is the point of this shitpost?
>dark ages What the fuck are you talking about? China isn’t India.
Nicholas Perry
>the EU should just be France and Germany nice union you have there friendo
Anthony Collins
And Holland and Belgium, Danemark also
Ayden Edwards
Also good, means western companies will make less consoleshit, cinematic games and walking simulators.
Hudson Jenkins
You only became relevant in the 20th century
Adrian Turner
>Got my rich Chinese gf
Winning!
William Hill
>What bothers me most is that China will start producing worthwhile entertainment in the next decade probably, so I'll have to learn Chinese or relegate myself to irrelevant old man status. I'm already stretched pretty fucking thin with four languages, fuck this. not necessarily the relative lack of creative freedom and constant need for CCP arse-kissing means that their film industry is dominated by awful summer blockbuster attempts, usually shitty nationalistic/CCP-friendly war movies. they rely on hong kong and taiwan for actual sinokino
Except that China’s movie market now has numerous blockbusters and over 60% marketshare.
Compare that to France or Germany where the US controls 75% of their market.
You being ignorant about China != China
John Allen
American election cycle basically comes across as one big reality show so I guess it's not surprising that Trumpy won and Oprah could be his challenger in 2020.
Matthew Campbell
Fuck off you nonce. I could be anyone on this planet and it wouldn’t change the facts.
>china is really poor According to a fucking shitpost article written on a blog? China is richer per capita than the global average. That is not “really poor” by any definition except a retard’s.
Luis Peterson
I hope youre not the guy who posted the thread of her sleeping in the other room, and everyone suggesting you cum on her
Nicholas Lewis
Fucking finally. Now hopefully we'll focus more on our own endless list of problems rather than playing world police.
James Flores
>I could be anyone on this planet and it wouldn’t change the facts Stop denying your race chink >China is richer per capita than the global average It's 74th in GDP per capita, which is lower than other shitholes like Brazil and Mexico en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capitav Stay mad chinky
Ayden Hughes
That's disgusting. No I'm not.
Owen Robinson
And more multiplayer lootboxy farm hell. A real "improvement" there. I'd take walking sims.
Bentley Davis
i for one welcome our chinese overlords
Josiah Wilson
cunt i mentioned they have blockbusters, i never said they didn't have a *big* film industry. big industry doesn't equal good movies he referred to the having worthwhile films to watch, and i pointed out that chinese films are well financed but ultimately shit get off your sinoboo high horse and actually read posts, the quality of prc movies is awful considering it's investment and size, especially when you compare it to nearby countries.
Cooper Anderson
Fuck yourself Mohammed
>74th Out of 194 countries. Not what you claimed you absolute faggot.
Austin Hall
Shan't ever learn Chinese
The Chinese will adapt to English or fail, simple as
Anthony Lewis
woah...
Gavin White
F
Henry Jones
R A R E A R E
Eli Taylor
DAD A D
Thomas Gray
that's why france is trying to ally with them now
Austin Hughes
SON O N
Matthew Nguyen
mentioned
Jackson Collins
hello son who are you :DDDD
Justin Gomez
Which is ranked lower than the global average which is $10133 at 61st place Dumb chink
Chase Hall
This is a little bit misleading lad. You have to consider that China is literally 4.2 times bigger than the US in terms of population. That means that Chineese people are spending less than a quarter on retail goods than what an American would spend on average.
I'm not saying that this isn't significant. I'm just saying that when you're looking at data like this then it's pointless to just look at one set of numbers without looking at the bigger picture. You need context to really say anything meaningful.
It's like when economists point to the unemployment rate in a given country/area and say that it's really important. That statment on it's own is bullshit, because to really understand what the unemployment rate means you have to understand things like the workforce participation rate, underemployment, average wages, and the a half-dozen other things.
Like take here in the US for example, the unemployment rate has gone down. That's good right? Well, not nessarily. The workforce participation rate has gone down in recent years too, meaning that less people are actually working even though the unemployment rate is lower. Is that a bad thing? It's hard to say that either, to make a statment on that you have to look at things like household sizes and cost of living and a million other things.
Looking at these things is kind of like looking through a keyhole into another room. You won't see everything that's going on if you just take a peek, you have to move around so that you can see the whole room and then you have to put everything you saw together in your head to get the full picture.
Just pillage Africa, South America, SEA Asia and the Middle East while not investing a cent in your own nations.
That worked for so long, should continue working right?
Ryan Evans
Thank you based Marx
Camden Stewart
Good point, but I tend to have better luck actually discussing things here than on Sup Forums beleive it or not. That being said you could ask me why I'm trying here and not on and I wouldn't be able to give you a satisfactory awnser.
