Unpopular opinion thread?

Unpopular opinion thread?

The new powerpuff girls show is overall better than the old one.

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That goes beyond unpopular, OP.

Care to substantiate that claim? I didn't like either of them so I wouldn't know. Still, the new one is worse on a technical level.

You sure this isn't a Bizarro thread?

I'm deeply concerned about your mental health, OP.

I can top that: MLP did the powerpuff girls characters better than the original show.

I don't like

Geoff Johns
Ivan Reis
Grant Morrison
Al Ewing
Tom King
Mikel Janin
Warren Ellis
James Robinson

How about instead of unpopular opinions, unpopular opinions that we actually hold/agree with, instead of just listing bullshit

Who do you like ?

All that I got is I liked Legend of Korra, save for the second season.

I'll always be a Morrison fanboy, but I can't stand Geoff Johns. I also think that Bendis-speak isn't automatically bad, Bendis has just gotten lazy/overworked during the last fifteen years.

cape comics suck

Legend of Korra was good.

DC movie universe can still be salvaged despite the blunders.

There is nothing wrong with cartoons having an animesque artstyle

Troll or not,get help OP.

Why is the new show considered bad by most people? Also MLP has powerfpuff girls?

That's not an unpopular opinion.

Superman's boring simply because he's invincible.

Neros Q, don't you have edgy video sequences and cheap jokes to make?

When you share your opinion but express it as if it's fact, you look like an asshole or bait, op. Try again.

This isn't the "things casuals say"-thread.

The "elephant in the room" about Watchmen is that it was and even more so now is fedora shit and brought miladyfags into the hobby which, combined with the speculator market, killed it.

Grant Morrison isn't that great and his work is no more clever or skilled than any average comic book or video game writer's.

The britbong invasion writers in general suck. The better ones (Moore, Ennis, Millar, Morrison) all have a handful of top tier comics a few other middle of the road ones, and a bunch of unreadable garbage. American indie writers are and always have been a richer talent pool.

Pre-1983 Archie, Conan v1 (Dark Horse), and Daredevil Born Again are the pinnacles of the medium and there shouldn't really even be any debate over this if people are being objective. The Dark Knight Returns and Hitman probably round out the top 5 comics ever.

Manga, despite its otaku pandering which has hurt the medium severely, is still overall better than western comics.

The only thing about yuropooristanian comics that stands out is the art. Overall the writing is amateurish to the level that a child could have done it 99% of the time. That's not to say there aren't high quality yuropooristanian comics, just that writing standards on the continent are almost nonexistent. Even someone like Pat Mills never had much command of the written word despite a fair sized body of quality work.

American comics have overall the highest writing standard of any country, but the art is bottom of the barrel. American comics artists never learned to draw still life, do technical illustrations, detail backgrounds realistically or intricately, or depict motion. And a large part of this is because they never got out of the habit of the Kirby/Eisner "DYNAMIC EVERYTHING" style of visual storytelling.

Sandman sucks.

Silver Surfer Requiem #3 is retarded and drags down what is an otherwise near perfect mini.

>Legend of Korra was good

BAIT FISH AND LIES

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Asami should have been evil

>There is nothing wrong with cartoons having an animesque artstyle

There really isn't, it just depends on how it's used.

Good Example: Avatar: The Last Airbender.

Bad Example: Teen Titans.

>Last Air bender

How can it have an anime esque style if the animation comes from some sweatshop in Korea.

Anime esque styles are based on anime.

I don't see how it being made by Koreans affects anything.

There is a very obvious tell...anime has a strict budget

Korean based shows like Legend of Korra especially in Season's 3 and 4 did not

You'd be surprised what you can make from nothing.

>anime has a strict budget

We're not talking about anime, we're talking about anime esque cartoons.

Don't be autistic its not like there is any real difference

There is!
Anime esque is only based on anime. It's not entirely anime.

So again, how does being made by Koreans somehow not make Avatar anime esque?

>Unpopular opinion

This is a good show.

Totally Spies was not a very good show and is best enjoyed through screenshots, which many sites are devoted to.

Geoff Johns is one of the best cape writers ever.

Mark Millar and Garth Ennis are the best Superman writers ever.

Batman Adventures v1 is BY FAR the best Batman ongoing ever.

Superheroes are not oversaturated.

Sci-fi, fantasy, and hipster shit IS oversaturated.

There needs to be MORE licensed comics, not less.

There's nothing wrong with advercomics and they're at least on average better than anything Marvel is currently publishing.

Frank Miller is the overall most talented comics industry professional ever. PERIOD.

Howard Chaykin's American Flagg! is probably the most important and influential and innovative comic ever made.

The 80s was the best decade for comics both at Marvel/DC and the indies.

90s Dark Horse >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010s Image

What IDW is doing isn't about "nostalgia". They're the only comics company that makes comics for actual long time old school comics fans. What Marvel/DC does is just as much about "licensing" and nostalgia since their comics only sell because of people getting into them from the adaptations/merchandise and their characters are even OLDER than IDW's.

Pre-Ennis Punisher > Post-Ennis Punisher. No one other than Ennis has written the character well in 20 years.

Porn comics are legit entertaining and there needs to be more of them. Lost Girls is a step in the wrong direction despite Alan Moore thinking it was "sophisticated" or whatever.

The Simpsons always sucked even if the early seasons were less shitty than the 21st century ones.

80s cartoons aren't that bad. The animation is poor, but the characters and content were often strong.

Klaus is crap.

Power Girl > Supergirl

Fantastic Four should be shelved and never used again. There is ZERO interest in them. The movies killed the brand.

This is the worst decade for comics ever.

Crossed has been shit from day 1 and always will be.

Matt Baker and Jack Cole and Carl Barks and Steve Ditko were more talented than Jack Kirby or Will Eisner.

>Grant Morrison isn't that great
He's pretty good for what he does. Keep in mind when you say average comic book/vidya story you're describing something like Street Fighter V's story mode. Grant is head and shoudlers above the average

>In general the britbongs sucked
You named the big ones besides Ellis as exclusions so I'm not sure who you're saying sucked. Also I'm not sure where you're going saying American indie writers have the richer talent pool. Who do you give as examples?

>Pinnacles of the medium objectively
Glad to see some love for Born Again (no love for Man Without Fear though?) but objective? Come on user.

My personal top three are the City on the Edge of Forever adaptation, The Invisibles, and Kirby New Gods.

>Manga is still better than western comics

If you said 70's manga vs 70's comics I might agree. But as manga is now compared to comics now? Hell no. And top tier western comics dominate top tier manga. West has the peak even if manga has gems like Tezuka's Phoenix and Adolph.

>only thing about yuropooristan comics that stands out is the art

What comic hurt you user? Tintin and 2000 AD were great fun for me.

>American comics have overall the highest writing standard of any country

...You just said manga was generally better user.

>Art is bottom of the barrel, its not realistic nor does it depict motion

As compared to hyper stylized manga that depicts motion with speed lines?

>hating on Kirby and Eisner

user please. PLEASE.

>Sandman sucks
Harlan Ellison called it the most literary of comic books and I almost agree with him. Sandman is really really good user, what's your problem?

>Silver Surfer Requiem 3 was retarded

>Not liking Norrin taking time off dying to help people

>Not liking a mini-episode that encapsulates the themes of the character that have been played out for decades before he dies

Come on user...

I wouldn't go that far but I like the character designs

>You named the big ones besides Ellis as exclusions

I didn't exclude anyone. A few of them have a few high quality runs/stories out of dozens. So does Waid and he's shit too.

I never had a problem with Teen Titans having an animesque artstyle but this is the main criticism I hear about it on Sup Forums.

Semi-frequent reboots are good for the medium, so long as they don't fuck up existing storylines. A planned, 2-year cycle that ends with a crisis-event would lead to better stories than just throwing events and reboots and refreshes willy-nilly.

It would have been fine if they didn't decide to be obnoxious about it with all the over the top anime expressions.

I don't think that you know what the medium is.

Frank Miller is a better artist now than he's ever been. I am 100% serious.

There isn't. Anime is just Japanese for animation.

Invincible is the best cape comic of the 21st century

Don't be daft. When he says "anime esque", he means animation resembling the style that Japanese animation has. As in, he's talking about the visual aesthetic, not circumstantial nonsense.

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the dubs for Digimon and Sailor Moon (Dic) was good

Dubs were corny as fuck, which is enjoyable in its own right.
I did like Molly's voice.

I'll agree with this, only because my waifu's dub voice was hotter.

The last great Vertigo title was Young Liars

The first Crossed mini is a legitimately great horror comic

Starman is overrated as fuck

Casanova is the only good thing Matt Fraction has ever written

Ales Kot sucks almost unbearably hard

Edgy Mark Millar was far superior to boring pitchmeister Mark Millar

The most exciting publisher today is Black Mask

The best season of the Simpsons was season 8

The Bat-Epic is the best Big 2 story of the last 25 years

The Walking Dead is still good, but it peaked in issue #48

Taken as a whole, the Bendis/Maleev run on Daredevil is better than Miller's run (Born again is still the GOAT arc, tho)

that MTV Spider-Man cartoon with the CGI was dope

Identity Crisis was pretty good

BvS was better than Civil War, because even when it failed, it was at least trying something beyond formula

From Hell is the best thing Moore's ever written

I like Ed Benes' art

I think Jared Leto is going to take Suicide Squad from a 2/10 to a 9/10

My favorite Flash is Bart Allen

>Starman is overrated as fuck
>implying anything called Starman can be anything less than 10/10, regardless of medium
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Gravity Falls ended just fine.

Jungle Line > For The Man Who Has Everything > Whatever Happened To The Man of Tomorrow?

Uncanny Inhumans is one the best current ongoings

I do not like Alan Moore's character writing abilities, because his characters always come off stiff, without any spontaneity, as if action was they take and word they say was planned out thought rethought analysed summarized and calculated to where they feel less like an illusion of a real person, but a paper doll that spouts off dialogue needed to advance the plot.

Lots of people on Sup Forums seem to hate Home Movies, when I watched one episode to see why people hated it so much, I spent about two weeks watching the whole show

I like it, the only problem that I saw was that it got kind of boring at some points and the art style, which I easily got used to

I like all seasons of Archer, including 5-7

I knew I wasn't alone!

I think he's talking about the CMC, who are sightly based on them

this thread

Bullshit. The art is terrible.

>BvS was better than Civil War, because even when it failed, it was at least trying something beyond formula
BvS and Civil War follow an extremely similar formula, user.

Unpopular on Sup Forums:
There's nothing wrong with politics and social justice in comics; they've been an integral part of the medium practically forever.

To be fair, that panel's from like issue 10. The art is a lot better now. I'd argue it's some of the best art in comics, actually

ATLA went to shit after season 1

I agree with the korra statement

Alan Moore is just an overrated comic books writer who thinks he's comics Shakespeare. Also, all his capeshit (except for the Green Lantern shorts) are shit-tier. "What ever happened to the Man of Tomorrow" is a convoluted mess that decharacterizes Superman, and "For the man who has everything" was done way better on the cartoon. (I'm not saying he's bad tho, he's just really overrated)

Nowadays is literally the worst period to comics/cartoons. There will never be new classics. The blatant biased views and clearly controlled liberty of creation/expression makes it impossible to have any revolutionary work in the industry. Also, the shit-tier writers and artists who are hired only to pander certain groups is a tendency that will only gets worse.

I don't know if it is unpopular, but Mark Millar is an overall good writer. He has made some mistakes, but he has a solid career with some very nice books.

Preacher was never good.

>liking archer
>sir this was some great bait all together!

You have read less than a percent of a percent of the manga currently being released.

Good god.

Your opinions really rustle my jimmies

I think all the RWBY girls would look cute in diapers.

I would be completely okay if Marvel went full SJW and replace this current trend of well off white nuMale creators working there right now with obvious diversity picks, because nothing could be worse than what we have now.

Cartoons are better now than they were 10 years ago.

The Loud House is a mediocre show only popular here because waifu fuel and a simple unique artstyle that feeds the antiCalarts threads.

MrEnter isn't that bad of a cartoon reviewer.

I like Steven Universe, but I think Adventure Time is superior in almost every aspect, generally speaking

I think Adventure Time and Steven Universe are the best shows on Television period right now.

The cw Arrow version of Oliver is better than any other version of Ollie.

The best show ever to hit the world is the adam west batman show

Adam west is the best batman

Kevin Conroy is disturbingly ugly, (but best batvoice)

The next batman needs to be brad pit with the voiceover of kevin conroy

Steven universes decision to bubble the cluster was brilliant but the lead up was pitiful.

Tim Drake is the best robin

The only Batman media I actually enjoy is Brave And The Bold. Everything else ranges from "i don't care" to "i don't give a shit" purely due to the fact that it has Batman in it. BATB was the only Batman that I liked and even then I only started watching the show for characters that weren't Batman.

Yes, I'm including Nolanverse, BTAS, and the Arkham games in my "shit i couldn't care less about" pile.

They are the best characters on that show. Or is admitting to watching that show already an unpopular opinion?

>Being edgy for not liking BTAS or Arkhamverse while implying nolanverse is even comparable

You got everything wrong m8

Cartoons tend to do a better job adapting storylines from comics.

Sup Forums heavily exaggerates how bad modern Marvel is, at least in comparison to DC

about a solid 80% of Marvel comics match the quality of many DC comics that aren't their absolute best (GA, Omega Men quality)

Mind telling me what I'm missing that can hang with the tip top of western comics?

The Dark Knight Returns and The Killing Joke will forever remain as the most overrated Batman stories, and it's not that they're bad, it's that there are better stories out there that are underappreciated.

The best superhero comic run of all time is Johns' JSA (in my opinion of course).

Ennis' reasoning for hating Captain America makes no sense to me, he says it takes away from the tragedy of men who fought in WWII and disrespects them, when the character himself was created by two men who served during WWII.

I love Jack Kirby's art, but he can't draw men's faces for shit, though I find his female faces hot. His storytelling was hamfisted too.

The constant BvS threads are the worst thing to happen to Sup Forums in a long while, the capekino meme is stupid too.

JSA > JLA

The Max Fleischer Superman cartoons are the definitive version of the character.

I will never watch a video with Chris-Chan in it, but I will read of his exploits.

The Emperor's New Groove is the most underrated Disney movie in my opinion.

I prefer Cars 2 to the first one.

Stop motion animation is my favourite form of animation.

Kaptain Kristian is my favourite Sup Forums related YouTuber.

Zootopia is the best buddy cop movie since Lethal Weapon.

I like Bendis' Ultimate Spider-Man and Daredevil, but everything after that is shite.

I will never watch Steven Universe, simply because it doesn't interest me.

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is canon.

I prefer Incorruptible to Irredeemable.

The Vision will always be my favourite comic book character.

How is hating all non-silver age Batman edgy?

>Adventure Time and Steven Universe are good
Choke yourself to death

>CW Ollie best Ollie
Die in a fire.

>Adam West best Batman

...You know, you're alright user. This is true.

>Brad Bat
...I don't know if I'd want it, but I'd be curious to hear how he sounds as Batman.

>Time Drake best Robin
In this you have good taste user.

>Lots of people on Sup Forums seem to hate Home Movies
You what?
What?

That is a long post for me to almost entirely agree with

Doesnt matter, your comparing those two to nolanshit
Nolanverse is complete ass

The only reason I'm comparing them is because they all fall into the same category of "not BATB." I have no opinion on those three individually.

I love Damien wayne but h's a shitty robin
Also Arkhamverse tim drake is the best tim drake

We just happen to be in a time where DC is in an upswing of quality and Marvel is in a downswing. Compare Rebirth to Civil War II.

>DKR and Killing Joke
I agree. I hope other stories get more exposure. I particularly liked Venom and The Cult.

>JSA best superhero comic run
It's up there, I put it in my top five.

>Ennis
Ennis is a fanboy of WW2. Simon and Kirby actually served in WW2. Ennis would do well to remember that.

>Kirby
His storytelling is an acquired taste. Morrison says its like beat poetry. It's supposed to be unrealistic and mannered.

I'm the opposite with his faces. I love the stony faces he gave his guys and found his females fugly.

>BvS threads are cancer
Oh boy are they ever. I don't even like the movie and I think its overkill.

>JSA > JLA
A timeless truth.

>Fleischer Superman definitive Superman
Yes he is. "This looks like a job for Superman!"

>I will never watch a video with Chris-Chan in it
You're missing out on some grade-A cringe user. It's transcendentally awful.

>Emperor's New Groove underrated
Totally agree.

>Prefer Cars 2
Die in a fire.

>Stop motion animation is my favorite form of animation
Mine as well. Haryhausen forever.

>Zootopia is the best buddy cop movie since Lethal Weapon
Would agree except he technically isn't a cop until the very end.

>Bendis
Agree

>Agents is canon
Fuck you buddy. It's because of them Robbie will be exiled to the small screen forever.

>Vision is my favorite comic book character
You got good taste user.

Exactly. Both dubs wasn't as bad as folks make it seem. I think if folks who constantly bitch should research the FCC guidelines for childrens programming during the 90's or the 65 rule for syndication then they would realize some of the reasons why the dubs was the way they were.

>I particularly liked Venom and The Cult

The Cult is fucking great. A+ taste user.

If Steven Universe came out a decade ago it would be remembered in a generally fond way (similar to Flapjack, probably even a little more nicely). It is only considered "tumblr" because tumblr has latched onto it and tries to make it something it's not.

>watchmen brought fedora guys to comics
No it didn't, fedora, autism and comics have always gone hand in hand.

>AT has always been meh. Never God awful, yet still nothing amazing. It got by because Cartoon Network was desperate for any cartoons at the time

>The Dark Knight is still 1 of the most relevant films of our time

>Nu-PPG are cuter than old PPG. That's it

>John Dilworth was the best animator out of the old Cartoon Network era and a genius

>Home Movies does indeed suck

>Archer is bland

>Sam Raimi Spiderman is the best Spiderman. Toby Maguire killed it. Even 3 was better than The Amazing Spiderman

>Thicc = good taste. Faggots who draw gigantic circle people need to fuck off to /d/ or /trash/

>Deadpool>Guardians of the Galaxy

>Frozen, Tangled, and Zootopia are the holy Trinity of overhyped Disney movies

>Psychicpebbles was funny when I was 15 and he was new. Now it's obvious he's a 1 trick pony hack who puts Adam Sandler to shame in terms of unoriginality

There is nothing wrong with pandering to nostolgia.

There is nothing wrong with only reading from a single publisher.

There is nothing wrong with only reading cape comics

Man of Steel is the best comic book movie from MCU/DCEU/Fox.

Peter and MJ's separation was something that needed to happen and ultimately had a positive impact on the comics.

I find company wars stupid and everyone who engage in them is a fucking retarded, that is also wasting their life with meanless shit.

I am overall ok with Korra, though I will agree that season 2 sucked

I think Beast Boy was great in the cartoons, and even better in the comics

I don't agree that Marvel does nothing but pander to Tumblr, but I still prefer DC overall

I enjoy Tumblr for following fanartists, and I even find myself agreeing with it on social justice topics than I do with Sup Forums, though I never post about that stuff on here

I think the New Teen Titans era is overrated as hell. Most of the original characters besides Starfire, Raven, and Cyborg are boring as hell, and never amount to anything. I actually think Jurgens and Johns had runs that were as good as it, though they all have their faults.

I think the worst part about Sup Forums by far are people who just want to argue about the movies all the time. Not Tumblr, Sup Forums, or whatever.

Norman Osborn should be retired as a spider-man villain

>The Dark Knight is still 1 of the most relevant films of our time
Why do people still buy this crap.
Throw yourself in a wood chipper you fucking retard

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