People bitch about stuff like Squirrel Girl or Gwenpool or Bendises of the Galaxy but I want you to seriously tell me if those comics are as bad as the worst thing Marvel is putting out right now?
Hellcat is an anti-cape comic. It is a superhero comic with no superheroics. Fights don't exist, they happen off screen. Really nothing happens in Hellcat. Things are solved via deus ex machina because any sort of conflcit is not what's important. See, Hellcat exists as nothing but Kate Leth's self-insert fanfiction. Kate is such a narcissist that she believes we'll find her life as interesting as she does. Did you know that Kate has had bedbugs? Well here's a story where Patsy has to get rid of magic bedbugs! Kate has totally rockin' tattoos so here's a story where Patsy gets a tattoo! Aren't tattoos cool and interesting? Man, wouldn't it be great if Kate just had all kinds of cool gay friends and got to hang around with cool women all the time? Well in Hellcat, she can!
That's to say nothing of the""""""art"""""" which is an abomination all on its own. Nat's fill-in was bad enough but it's not like the regular artist is any better. The entire thing is laid out in the most banal fashion possible, poor depth all over the place, characters look like children even when they're not being drawn chibi style, the awful coloring, constant lack of backgrounds... the entire thing is amateurish and childish.
Patsy Walker aka Hellcat is not only the worst comic Marvel is currently producing, it may very well be the worst thing Marvel has published in the last 15 years. Yes, even worse than Austen's X-Men; Hellcat doesn't even have the car crash element going for it.
Jordan Taylor
yknow i was gonna defend this for a second, as Sup Forums seems to have a heavy dose of tumblr boogeyman, a general anti-fun anti-quirky mentality.. then i saw "my cat named kitten is a feminist" and i lost it. jesus fucking christ, what happened?
Tyler Robinson
Have you tried not paying attention to it
I do that with like 90% of comics out today and most posts here
Alexander Adams
no, SJWs have ruined the precious character that is Hellcat
Ryan Thomas
>Have you tried not paying attention to it Considering its sales nobody is.
Evan Reyes
Also, samefagging but with all of the bitching about "how do we fix Marvel" and shit on this board, it's more than valid to point out a book that is emblematic of everything that's wrong with current Marvel.
Brody Ramirez
That'll teach you to have hope.
Gabriel Brooks
I believe in gender equality. So I tore up my women's scholarship and signed a draft card.
Said no woman ever.
Jaxon Bell
Good, let's keep that way instead of bitching incessantly about it
Aiden Martin
... Who cares?
It's bland cutesy wish fulfillment shit that's tailored to teenage girls. It's no like it's supposed to be anything different. Just short little SOL bits.
There's worse shit out there.
Lucas Moore
This. The worst thing about it is that it's just boring. Compared to shit like what happened in Mockingbird #3 and Angela: Queen of Hel it's fucking nothing.
Hudson Lopez
>Kate has totally rockin' tattoos so here's a story where Patsy gets a tattoo! Aren't tattoos cool and interesting?
Too bad, she left out the cutting.
Michael Martin
Man, art takes so much time to do, so much time to just create and craft and let alone make well, and people spend lifetimes trying to get that stuff published. And sure, a lot of it is bad, but usually it's under the expected guise of, you know, trying to be good, you know? No matter if something is schlock shit if the person at least fucking tried to make something of their art it's at least worth the discussion.
But when something that is so utterly banal and so utterly full of a very obvious lack of caring, lack of passion, with nothing going for it, something that is undeserving of the time it took to make it, and then it gets published commercially on top of that? LIke it's not even really pandering to an audience as much as serving for the self interests of an author who doesn't care about their art? And yet it's given 5his opportunity thousands would literally kill for? And then when it just doesn't go away and when it starts to seep into everything else around it, and people just tell you to ignore it, because "art is expendable, man, art isn't worth anything anyway, jusy lower your standards until troglodyte shit is acceptable to your palate"?
I dunno, there's something about that goes from just a bad but negligible experience to something kind of insulting and depressing.
Lucas Gomez
>It's bland cutesy wish fulfillment shit that's tailored to teenage girls
It's tailored to woman-children.
Justin Baker
If you're talking about writer, it's not a lack of passion. Leth is just delusional, and the type of faggot to run away from her problems.
Christopher Rivera
>bottle of Tylenol She attempts suicide like she writes comics Should have finished the job
Logan Harris
The fact that she goes "Are you reading Squirrel Girl" first just kills me. What is there to talk about with Squirrel Girl?
Andrew Cruz
Not defending her work, but for someone who's been dealing with severe depression, she has gotten a better hold on her life than the majority of this site.
Kevin Allen
The big butt that's created when she stuffs her tail into her pants apparently because she made a comic praising the shit out of it and the rest of the comic.
Cooper Miller
Well not everything can be for man-children.
Logan Ortiz
Who fucking cares. Jesus Christ, how many fucking threads of the exact same shit are we gonna have about Kate Leth?
There's nothing wrong with this damn comic being published. Shit it's selling like crap, it's cancelled from the relaunch. What are you even fucking afraid of?
Blake Stewart
I like how in her own comic even a literal child thinks she's a retard and her comic-self is too obtuse to realize that.
Nolan Rivera
>There's nothing wrong with this damn comic being published. No, actually, the fact Marvel thought this was an acceptable comic to publish is everything wrong with them currently.
Cameron Carter
To be completely fair, dealing with bed bugs IS serious business.
Daniel Reyes
>Really nothing happens in Hellcat. Things are solved via deus ex machina because any sort of conflcit is not what's important. See, Hellcat exists as nothing but Kate Leth's self-insert fanfiction. Kate is such a narcissist that she believes we'll find her life as interesting as she does. Did you know that Kate has had bedbugs? Well here's a story where Patsy has to get rid of magic bedbugs! Kate has totally rockin' tattoos so here's a story where Patsy gets a tattoo! Aren't tattoos cool and interesting? Man, wouldn't it be great if Kate just had all kinds of cool gay friends and got to hang around with cool women all the time? Well in Hellcat, she can! There's this Hellcat vs. Mike Baron's Badger comparison I've had floating around in my head for a while and I should really try to write it out.
Noah Sanchez
>everything wrong with them currently >everything kek, you're just fucking triggered
Justin Wright
I want a sequel to this where the little girl belittles her for having shit casual taste.
Grayson Baker
use this energy to promote people you like you creepy fuckers.
are you the guy who storytimed the Badger issue with the same plot in the same thread as OP's pic.
Jaxson Turner
Dont worry everyone last issue from May sold 11k, i am sure next month this comic will be selling worst like 8k
Alexander Moore
>"OMG DID YOU READ SQUIRREL GIRL?!?" >No. Did you read TDR: Last Crusade? >"I don't read Batman comics."
Dylan Taylor
Hellcat is basically a failed attempt at recreating squirrel girl which I didn't thing was fucking possible say what you will about Eric's deformed fucking art but at least it's something even if it is just a borderline shit artistic style hellcat takes that to the extreme and it is fucking shit squirrel girl at least has at least some small fucking ounce of quality but Hellcat is a failed mimicry of that and has no quality whatsoever
Joseph Moore
the art is kind of cute and it's nice to see an old neglected property brought out of the attic but it could have been better if it were more like The New Frontier rather than Archie Comics meets Love and Rockets without any of Archie's warmth or Love and Rockets edge
Aaron Martinez
>it's nice to see an old neglected property brought out of the attic Byrne did it and regretted it
Ayden Bailey
Hellcat's problem isn't the fact that it's written for little girls in mind as readers of the comic, it's written by Kate Leth for Kate Leth.
Nathaniel Hall
>Failed attempt I think they successfully recreated Squirrel Girl, it does almost as badly as Squirrel Girl does.
Jason Thompson
I find it kind of funny how they launch a new Hellcat comic to piggyback on Patsy's appearance, but the two versions could not be any more vastly different.
Caleb Wood
She doesn't need to read Batman when she's already the female Frank Miller
Alexander Barnes
Shut up, Xenos
Bentley Green
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Josiah Gutierrez
>But I found something I'm good at. Telling stories.
Except you're not good at telling stories either. Seriously, what a spoiled brat. Can't we just bully her to suicide?
Oliver Nguyen
You can try, but she knows to avoid Sup Forums.
Dylan Hall
This image needs to be updated with the Natasha Allegri issue.
Gavin Garcia
those damn women, all of them getting free scholarships handed to them just for showing up. and its just salt in the wounds that when they were creating the draft that they decided it was only men who would suffer the consequences of it. why do we let them make all the rules and run the world again?
Jaxon Lopez
>Sup Forums not loving fun & quirky comics Is this Earth 3?
Eli King
SJWs are not logical.
Jason Collins
>posting Hal in background Knowing him, he's turned on 24/7. Slut.
Easton Stewart
Gooood. Goooooooood.
Andrew Russell
Explains why my wife reads it...
Levi White
Someone needs to make a fifth panel with the dudes laughing and agreeing with her, then her being pissed off.
Juan King
Wonderful.
Zachary Ramirez
Teenage girls deserve better then this.
Levi Harris
Heh
Ryan Morris
True To be fair something needs to be done about the state of comics aimed at children in general though especialy on dcs side it seems that if it's aimed at a younger audience it has to be juvenile crap.
Do you think anybody would mind if they just adjusted there ratings standards so there currently 13+ stuff can get labeled 8+ and the 8+ can be thrown out. Do it in the middle of some other big thing so moral guardians don't notice.
Wyatt Rogers
I can't find the thread in the op pic did the archive lose some Sup Forums stuff when they were forced to move
Angel Williams
I auctualy agree with what she's saying in this one. Shame all her other insights into society are so shit
Nathan Reyes
This one right here. I like you, user.
Henry Cook
Someone already did a edit.
Hudson Stewart
Agree it's the absolute worst. The Natasha Allegri fill-in issue would sweep the awards if there were a Golden Turkey Award-sorta thing for comics. In fact, we should start holding one starting this year, as a counterpoint to the Eisners and the Harveys. Call them the "Leths."
Alexander James
Kate Leth is such a narcissist she would accept a Leth award, even to be insulted.
Daniel Hall
Let's look back on the worst comics of each year 85 and 86 crisis on infinite earths 1988 was probably hellblazer 13 they really dropped the ball on that one Worst of 2011 was obvisuly red hood and the outlaws 1 (I dropped the comic after that issue so I don't know much about the rest) 2014 was the good the bad and the ponies 2015 is dragontown
Camden Miller
You know except for flashpoint just put all the crisis style events as that years worst
Aiden Jackson
Damien must be pretty happy he got rid of Patsy now.
David Stewart
Who will play Hellcat at in the MCU ?
Nicholas Gutierrez
I want to see someone point out in a future issue "Hey, weren't you married to the Antichrist a while back?". Patsy gets PTSD flashbacks and the art shifts into Ruins-mode, with a shrink explaining that Patsy's bizarre behavior was her coping mechanism for severe trauma and the rest of the series is a harrowing tale of a woman struggling to hold her sanity after being exposed to the horrors of Hell.
Isaiah Moore
And her suicide.
Anthony Foster
The epilogue is her waking up in Hell, screaming.
Owen Carter
Normally I would be against such a tonal shift but it would be better then what we have.
Keep marketing it to the same age group though maybe then can see there's better options then the schlock they've been getting
Angel Gutierrez
"You can't say Hellcat is bad it's for little girls"
This comic is for little girls too and most of Sup Forums seems to like it or at least not hate it.
Sebastian Powell
>waifu >cute art Sup Forums can't hate it.
Ethan Perry
I hate that on principle because it's saying this is the only style that should be marketed to children. I want the golden age audiences back.
Nolan Gutierrez
>I hate that on principle because it's saying this is the only style Please point to where it says that.
Brayden Barnes
Yeah I dident chose my words well there What I mean is I'm mad that we apparently can't just have traditional capeshit for children
Liam Evans
You can effectively eliminate any boner by thinking about girl on her period.
Period blood however won't stop leaking by thinking about boners.
Owen Roberts
Pretty good.
Joshua Williams
Holy shit look at all that menstrual flow.
Juan Martinez
Squirrel Girl sells well in trades for some reason. We'll find out how this did later this month.
Elijah Diaz
>she has gotten a better hold on her life She didn't do shit but scribble on the internet, opportuinities were offered to her because she has a vagina and preaches about feminism. It's almost as if r9k is right.
Thomas Sullivan
>Sugerskull
CULTURAL APPROPRIATION!
Dylan Young
You know, when you actually stop and think about it...has there ever been an all male superhero team? Every single one since way back in the JSA days has at least had the token female member. First one I could think of is the Challengers of the Unknown, but they got a girl pretty quickly. Maybe the Fantastic Four that had Ghost Rider on it?
Christopher Hill
One could even argue with New Fantastic Four because woman made them form a team.
Brandon Diaz
I want a story where the Joker fucks up his Joker-Gas and turns it by accident into viagra gas
Connor Cook
All-Star Boner?
Wyatt Cook
Crisis on infinite girths
Jason Rogers
Man, Warren Ellis and the others doing Hellstorm were fucking savage with their writing. It's such a total contrast to the Patsy we have today. Then again, that version was a pretty far cry from her avengers/defenders self as well.
I agree we need some flashbacks to this, though. Someone get Kate on the line.
Joseph Carter
you forgot to mention best art!
Cameron Stewart
The early 90s Hellstorm series was so good. One of My all time favorite comics.
David Cooper
Rachael Taylor, she was already in Jessica Jones.
Matthew Rivera
>Kid Isn't Patsy in her late 30s at the youngest?
Sebastian Howard
Reminds me of the time we talked about doctor strange visiting the phalus dimension
David Williams
Christ, it's like those deviantart pictures during the anime boom.
Easton Miller
>Someone get Kate on the line. I'm sure Kate gets triggered by Transmetropolitan. She won't touch Hellstorm with a three foot pole.
Juan Nguyen
It reads well with the Druid mini-series as a follow-up/coda. It's bleak as hell, but it was part of Marvel's attempt to create a Vertigo-like "mature" subline of comics around the time when DC was scoring very big with the critics. Of course it never went anywhere.
James Bell
But...I thought girls didn't like big butts on girls...
Camden Perry
What... the fuck is happening with her legs?
Jayden Walker
Even better "Who reads comics anymore?"
Tyler Reed
I believe that she's said she doesn't like Ellis' writing, so you're probably right.
At least, but like many Marvel character she slips back and deages occasionally.
Jaxon Roberts
Shit seems pretty mediocre, but harmless. I might look into it now because you pointed it out. I was completely unaware of it. I want to see if it's really as bad as you say or if you're just upset because it's not catering to you.
The art style is terrible, but the joke is mildly funny here.
I kind of hate that hairstyle. On its own, it's not bad, but half of the entirety of the female demographic for nerd shit has this haircut now. That aside, good for her that she's happy doing shit. Most of us here probably have or have had depression at some point and haven't done something nearly as interesting as getting published, even if her work seems kind of mediocre.
I'm going to go out and buy Hellcat next time I'm at the comic shop to give it a shot. Thanks for being buttmad, Sup Forums.
Mason Davis
Holy fuck, who made this image? This is the most autism thing I've ever seen. It's like, who has that much time to devote to a comic they don't like? Shit nigga the secret to happiness is just focus on the things you like
Levi Bennett
>I'm going to go out and buy Hellcat next time I'm at the comic shop to give it a shot. Thanks for being buttmad, Sup Forums.
No you won't, who you're trying to fool?
Jaxon Reed
That looks like a single thread. Probably took like, 5 minutes to make.