So burgers... What went wrong?

So burgers... What went wrong?

sending teenagers and not experienced soldiers there

They started by suppoting Ho Chi Minn against the Japanese, and then when Ho had kicked them out and wanted to kick france out they switched sides like the cucks they are, all to please the fucking frogs.

Once we were finally doing well is when people started to question what we were doing there and worrying about it being another 10 years when in fact with full public support it could've been done in just a few.

1. It's impossible to fight a guerrila force without grave violations of human rights, and the Geneva Convention.
2. The South Vietnamese government was incredibly incompetent and corrupt.
3. Soviet trained North Vietnamese fighters were very skilled, and managed to prevent the USA from gaining air superiority, at least total AS.
4. Home morale
5. Allies that didn't dedicate nearly enough support. Only the 5-eyes nations donated any notable support. Aside from Thailand of course.

It was a weird situation where we technically forced North Vietnam to surrender, but as soon as Nixon got impeached, North Vietnam restarted the war. Without Nixon, there was no will to help South Vietnam again.

brain beats muscle

>1. It's impossible to fight a guerrila force without grave violations of human rights, and the Geneva Convention.
It isnt, its just impossible to win.

>Done in just a few years
>War on terror
Yeah right

>war on terror
>having full public support

>peasant tactics 101

Read what I said again.

Because they started the fight from scratch instead of just joining in the last minutes and taking all the credit like they used to do before

Then they realized they are not as badass as they thought

Thats just plain wrong. The french fought the Vietcong and NVA for years before the US joined.

Their plan initially was to just join late and wipe the Vietcong out quickly. It just didnt work out to well for them.

asians are smart and they were backed up against the wall whereas no one in america cared or wanted to be there

Who cares? Talk to the fucking kikes that run this shithole and ask them what they were thinking, go down the list of all the useless wars young Americans were conscripted to die for.

rekt

>Water barriers were often used
>Usually, by holding your breath, you would come up on the other end
>Sometimes, however, a dead end awaited

holy shit it's like indiana jones

It was quite popular for the first year or so (before people were talking about expanding it to Iraq).

That was in 1970's. Why are you asking about it now?

Kikes were all opposed to the Vietnam War because it was essentially a war against Communism which they all supported

Literally an ant farm. Its like expecting a man to fight a shark underwater. The shark has the advantage.

>sending drafted teenagers to jungle chink nowhere because they decide they want to be communist

Shouldn't of given you yanks anything

Didn't they have better shit to do in their lives? Imagine digging that every fucking day for years. Sounds like slavery. If that happened here I would say fuck it and moved to China or something.

>What went wrong?

They send australians instead of actual soldiers

Kikes are pro-capitalism in Murrica. Are you mad, mutt?

>Shouldn't of

but you did the offensive version of it in ww2? literally keep getting shot until the enemy runs out of ammo

Your whole fucking economy is dependent on war (especially those for greater Isreal), you'll never see an end to conflict.

yes, different generations. you either die in ww2 or die home in gulag.
maybe the modern day vietnamese have a diffrent mentality.

Ask France

They are now. Jews in America were very pro-Communist and pro-USSR up until probably the 70s when the Communist countries turned against the Jews. When Communism was a Jewish racket the Jews supported it to the hilt.

Australians where much better in 'nam than the us

The vietnamese had been occupied for 50+ years at that point by different nations, having kicked two of them out allredy. Now they just wanted to kick the last one out too, and they were pretty determined to do so.

Also, in the north, all able-bodied men was forced to fight in one way or another, or they would go to the vietnamese variant of Gulag.

Digging doesnt sound too bad when you compare it to getting shot up by US attack helicopters.

ah you mean like that
yeah probably today even rice farmers have better plans for life
gotta respect their willpower tho, they were literally getting disintegrated daily

>where
>Shouldn't of

fucking anglos don't know their own language
and they make fun of americans

if you know the rules you can break the rules, vlad

>When Communism was a Jewish racket
Until 1937 when Stalin send them to Gulag and it become a meme.

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Getting involved to begin with

these are literal mud hut dwellers, living a hobbit hole is probably pretty normal for them

Nothing. Americans always lose. The only times they won was independence and civil wars, first one because they were still much closer to europeans at that time, second only because they fought themselves, which means they fought someone as weak as themselves, so they lost at the same time.

We fucked up, so what? You were a fucking superpower.

Some of it sounds a little bull shitty
Like the scorpion traps

average age was 26 dumbshit

this is quite farfetched. Sure they had underground tunnel systems but vietnam is basically vast, untouched, thick jungles. The Vietcong didn't need to go underground to hide, the jungle gave them huge amounts of cover. Not to mention this shows like americans are retarded and just went blind into their traps when in reality Americans would kill them at a much higher ratio

sending drafted soldiers to a place they never heard of to fight in the jungle in extreme conditions against a guerilla force fighting in their own backyard in an incredibly unpopular war on the homefront. the SOG were frikkin cool though.

Z O G

Thinking about playing a round of rising storm 2 desu

not enough agent orange and napalm

they fought for the man next to them

Overestimation of own abilities and underestimation of the enemy
The whole purpose of Vietnam was never to fight the NVA or Vietcong themselves, as the US never actually declared war on them. Instead the purpose was to train and support the South Vietnamese in their defense against them.

The South Vietnamese, or ARVN, were woefully incompetent and often very cowardly compared to their northern counterparts, and to make matters worse any time an ARVN officer or soldier distinguished himself he was usually punished or degraded by their corrupt government. For example, I forget the name but one ARVN commander managed to beat back an NVA attack and secured a huge strategic victory, but upon return he was grilled for taking "too many losses" (much less than the enemy) and was demoted.

Couple this with the fact that the South had no presence in the North, whereas the South was crawling with tens of thousands of communists, terrorists, and home grown guerilla fighters.

The US, not wanting to be drawn into a war they couldn't leave, didn't have any measures of success that they knew would work. They couldn't capture city to city in the north because they weren't allowed to attack the north. They couldn't go to cambodia or laos because those were neutral, despite being the staging and gathering points for literally hundreds of thousands of communist soldiers, particularly viet cong. The air war failed because everytime they bombed a location, it would be built back up, over and over and over again except next time with more flak and aa guns. They couldn't win the south because they couldn't distinguish soldier from civilian since VC hid in plain sight. The only measure of success they had was body count since most engagements they fucking brutalized the enemy with better firepower, skill, training and efficiency. In the end, all they did was fight the same enemy in the same places multiple times hoping they would be too weak to continue.

Not the zog you're thinking off

To an extent this actually worked, in 1973 the North agreed to a ceasefire after realizing they're throwing men into a meat grinder.

However, in typical commie fashion, they were lying through their teeth and immediately started building up for when the US left. 2 years later, they invade again and this time without US help they completely overwhelmed the South.

Natuarally, any sane enemy would have done the same. Fair fights is for suckers and the NVA realized this. They just used the US populations opinion to their advantage.