Why do so many people on Sup Forums admire fascism?

Why do so many people on Sup Forums admire fascism?

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because fascism is uncucked

Because we're living in a world that's dying from leftism.

Because a tiny country handed the world it's ass after 10 years of it. Meanwhile the entire rest of the world scrambled to stop it.

Because democracy is honestly failing at this point.
Just look at the complete farce the US election is, two retarded nominees.
Look at how Remainers try to shit on democracy calling for old people not be allowed to vote etc.

Maybe fascism isn't the answer specifically but something new that isn't democracy with dumbshit liberals that vote with muh feels is in order.

because Sup Forums is filled with useful idiots

>nazi germany lasted 12 years and got annihilated and carved up
>east germany lasted 40 years

wow so uncucked!!!

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At the very least fascism is a tool to remove horrible shit that destroys your country in the long run.

It also gets your country destroyed. A loser's ideology.

>nazi germany lasted 12 years and got annihilated and carved up

Yeah and it only took the whole world to "annihilate" it. And that only happened because Yugoslavia had to fuck with Hitler.

>40 years of being the Jew's bitch
>12 years of being free
Uncucked by definition.

It's a political ideology that feels strong when our leadership is overwhelmingly weak and toothless. All you need to do is just overlook the whole "picking an impossible fight with commies" part and blame everything falling apart on the Jews.

Is there any country that has actually implimented fascism and rid itself of any of it's degeneracy?

It's the ideology that understands the most about nature. Humans are not above nature, but within it. National Socialism is biology applied to politics.

da jooos are a spook

Fascism is about truth, not cuckery

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Germany wasn't fascist you mongrel

kek yeah I forgot your country was a loser in WW2 too, lol

>implying the UK did anything to win WW2

You got your ass handed to you in France. People had to come bail you out with their fishing boats. Then you got out ass handed to you in Greece. The only battles you have "won" against Germany were the ones against a small garrison of Germans defending the western front and only after big brother USA bailed your asses out.

If it wasn't for a painter turned politician overruling the decisions of some of the best generals the world has ever seen you would have lost.

To be edgy contrarians but being a Marxist is to mainstream

The issues America is facing are systematically more related to a rise in fascism than Socialism user.
We haven't had nationalization of huge swaths of the economy such as in Socialism but we have had massive increases in government control over all aspects of a privately owned economy which is fascism.

Btw not liking the goals of a fascist government doesn't make it not fascism.
We are "the jooos" in this new fascist order

>free trade
>Fascism
get your head checked user

Much of Nat SOC biological ideals were based on the ideals of Thomas Malthus who was an antihumanist hack that thought we'd all be starving to death 5 billion people ago.

This is why.

Great job attacking the character of the author rather than the argument. You are sure to win many followers to your side.

>>free trade
>America
If I told you NAFTA absolutely devastated Mexican agriculture by subsidizing American agriculture and allowing export to Mexico and due to the massive unemployment in Mexico this caused has lead to these people now working as subsidized labor on American farms would you take the time to read up on this subject?.

>Great job attacking the character of the author rather than the argument
The argument was that wed all have starved to death several billion people ago if we didn't implement massive population control and warfare to wipe out all other people's not worthy of existence.

Last I checked we have those 5 billion people and the entire world is richer than it has ever been in its history.
These ideas were heavily adopted into much of Nazi ideology but they are quite old.
The infamous potato famine in Ireland wasn't due to them not producing enough food for example they re actually exporting food. Thr famine was caused by extremely heavy taxation by the Bongs as a form of population control because of this Malthusian line of thought.

Marxism isn't mainstream. Go tell college students you're against identity politics and only class politics matter. See what they'll tell you.

>spook
go back to /leftypol/

Because none of them lived in a fascist regime.

Seems pretty obvious to me, that's the effects of free trade, if you can't compete your industry gets destroyed, free market capitalism is cancerous.

Great job making a nice strawman to beat up. Can you refute ethnocentrism as the most effective evolutionary strategy now?

>Go tell college students you're against identity politics and only class politics matter. See what they'll tell you.
Class politics are identity politics user.
You can take any old speech by Lenin switch a few identity terms around and make a standard SJW speech.

It is actually quite amusing for trolling purposes.
Hell the term racist was coined by those Bolsheviks to suppress opposition in the same shaming methods employed by today's SJWs before they gained the power to outright wipe out opposition.

>be fascist
>country is great for a few years before commies chimp out and wreck it
>be communist
>country is wrecked by commies from the start

Yeah cause things are so much better for us now. Or during Ceasescu's rule.

Fuck off m8

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>if you can't compete your industry gets destroyed, free market capitalism is cancerous
>Massive government subsidization and protectionism
>Free market
user.
> Great job making a nice strawman to beat up. Can you refute ethnocentrism as the most effective evolutionary strategy now?
No I'm pointing out how the entire basis for this line of thinking is based upon a false idea.

It's like Marxist still clinging onto their ideology despite the LTV being entirely debunked which was the entire foundation of Marxist thought regarding economic organization.

With the ideals of Malthus being utterly crap all the Nazi ideals based on these false assumptions are invalidated.

Fascism is really efficient, like communism. The problem is that appointed/delegated people can't be trusted to make optimal decisions, and people tend to have more dissent without being given a choice (or, at least, an illusion of choice)..

One day, when the world is run by optimized AIs, this might not be a problem.

>mussolini
>freedom

HAH

the shitskin gypsy is right, the britbongs were useless in WW2

Meant to say that Mexico was getting wrecked by not implementing tariffs, sorry it's late.

I've never read Malthus, I do not base my ideology on Malthus, I have no idea what Malthus has ever said, and my worldview is not based on whatever he said. Your claim that I want to "depopulate the world" is not my belief. You can strawman my beliefs as much as you want, I won't respond.

Rosenberg's The Myth of the Twentieth Century is more like what I base my beliefs on, and Hitler based much of the NSDAP off it as well. Have you read it?

>like communism
You aren't serious are you?
> The problem is that appointed/delegated people can't be trusted to make optimal decisions,
That isn't the problem user the problem with central planning is the and calculation problems.
Which even with perfectly moral and rational people making these economic planning decisions they simply lack the knowledge of the impossible number of variables to determine wants and needs and prices to reflect the demand and supply for such.

One could argue that some hyper advanced Borg AI could maybe solve this issue but it would only happen if the individual is destroyed in the process.

Id recommend reading Mises's work on the calculation problem which has left Commies butthurt for 80+ years

It's funny because stirner thought commies were huge faggots too

already live in one

your trips are a spook.

It is in hearts of iron 4.

Because for all intents and purposes we have fascism right now.

they are dumb and want to replace one authoritarian ideology with another

>Class politics are identity politics user.

Nope.

Some yuppie liberal's desire to see the first (black) (female) (gay) president or whatever has nothing to do with ending capitalist exploitation.

Why do you think Clinton is saying stuff like “If we broke up the big banks tomorrow, would that end racism?"

>Meant to say that Mexico was getting wrecked by not implementing tariffs, sorry it's late
Which isn't free market capitalism user it is mercantilism and in America's case corporate fascism.
> I've never read Malthus, I do not base my ideology on Malthus, I have no idea what Malthus has ever said, and my worldview is not based on whatever he said
You should have the critical thinking skills to understand that many Nazi ideals regarding race warfare and economics are based upon Malthusian ideals which as I said have been proven unequivocally false.
You do yourself a disservice to be ignorant of these things user.

You'd also do yourself a service by actually researching the economic consequences faced by the nazi trade policies.
An extreme simplistic short of it is that one of the prime motivators for war was due to being unable to sustain their debt spending (which btw was praised early on by Keynesians and American progressives) and extremely limited trade policies and facing the reality of having to place massive rationing programs on their population if they did not either open up trade or go to war.

They obviously went to war for this amongst other ideological reasons as well.

The only actual good thing the Nazis did was throw away the entirely unjustifiable chains that was the repaying of the "damage Germany caused" in WWI which lead to the political climate which allowed the Nazis to take power.

Funny enough if the Allies after WWI simply continued trade with Germany would have never happened and the Soviets would have never left all of Eastern Europe in the impoverished state it is now.
Also we wouldn't have an Israel to deal with either

It is, NS parties have a different description to normal fascist parties though

and yet they still lost to those commie chimps

nah

not a commie

nice dubs

>Nope
Yes
I'm serious in offering you the challenge to take any Lenin or even Stalin speech and do as i suggested to find out yourself.
> president or whatever has nothing to do with ending capitalist exploitation.
1 "capitalist exploitation" is a farce based upon Marx's insane LTV. Corporate government cronysim is detached from capitalism as it isn't doen through voluntarily actions it is enforced through government force.
2 just like their Bolshevik cousins this rhetoric isn't about their Marxist claims even if you take them at Dave value it is solely about getting themselves into a position of power to rule over everyone else.
> Why do you think Clinton is saying stuff like “If we broke up the big banks tomorrow, would that end racism?"
Because she'd say anything anywhere at anytime if it would advance her lust for power.

Because fascism and especially national socialism were rational ideologies rooted in the Western tradition of Enlightenment though that offered a working alternative to liberal, universally egalitarian internationalism - a dogmatic system which has driven Western civilization to the brink of total destruction.

We admire nationalism, not fascism.

Who cares what Lenin or Stalin said?

And good job convincing yourself you're not getting anally reamed by capitalists. Don't worry, if you keep working hard you'll be rich too!

independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/just-62-people-now-own-the-same-wealth-as-half-the-worlds-population-research-finds-a6818081.html

Because it will get rid of lying shills like you.

Hitler's Germany was NatSoc. Mussolinguinie was Fascist but didn't have his shit in order before the war started.

NatSoc is the future but it also goes hand in hand with Fascism.

Ive realised something. Most people are fucking retarded sheep and need to be controlled. They need to be fucking told through the media what to think and how to act. Theyre fucking stupid. They will never think with their own brain. That is why we had monarchies and shit. That is why if you control the media,music,movies and fucking sitcoms you control the population. Honestly these retards shouldnt even be allowed to vote