Like how African Dutch turned into Afrikaans.
Why didn't Latin American Spanish evolved into its own language?
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because different from other colonizers, iberians actually colonized the population instead of genociding the natives or failing at integrating them like the rest
Because even in 1500s, it was only around 20days travel or so between new world and old.
In maintaining contact it wasn't a problem just a delay.
Not different languages, but a lot of dialects (slowly turning into their own languages, fortunately). For example, here we hate the spanish from asspain, the most annoying and gay dialect. But we're cool with the spanish from Cuba, a very chill dialect.
>Why didn't Latin American Spanish evolved into its own language?
Have you ever heard about chilean spanish?
>Have you ever heard about chilean spanish?
THIS
both are trash. kys.
>that amount of "conchitumadre" por segundo
Pinochet comeback when?
because the crown built schools and unis over there, instead of sending rednecks that lived in the wild surrounded by savannah and zulues
ojala k mañana pa aserle guerra a ustede alos peruka y boliviano culiao estropajos xuxetumare
Mexican is unironically the most effeminate accent in all the Spanish language, and Cuban like all Caribbean spanish is ebonics tier.
>"grasioso"
Castillian Spanish is the only Spanish accent that has no "musicality" on it, it has no accent, it's dry and doesn't sound like you are playing "la cucaracha" song in the background.
>implying they didnt genocide the natives
>it's dry and doesn't sound like you are playing "la cucaracha" song in the background
kek'd, mexican accent is very high pitched, it's hard to tell apart women from men
Castilian from which region? Madrid has its own accent.
Jesuit Catholics and their obsession with grammar vs Calvainist Protestantis
>Spanish
>white
All Spanish dialects from Latin America sound effeminate and high pitched due to their overuse of the "S" sound, the fact that they literally "sing" while talking only makes it worse.
Standard castillian, what we learn in schools or is used in most of our movies and such. Madrid accent is ok, it's like an exaggerated castillian accent that turns words that en in "D" into a "Z", like Madrid-Madriz, but it's more a meme than anything else, you don't see many adults having it besides some "laismos" and such.
That gaymer is a soyboy extreme who is forcing his voice.
Rioplatense spanish will be a language with spanish/italian inflience, it will be called Lunfardish
The Mexican accent is the worst one. Every time I see them talking all I can hear is CHENGA BENGA ARAVILA OOGA BOOGA
>slowly turning into their own languages, fortunately
What? I thought, the REA was supposed to prevent this from happening.
Also with the globalization and internet connection amongst other forms of mass communication, it seems pretty unlikely that Mexico, Argentina, and Spain will end up speaking completely separate languages unintelligible for each other.
Is it true the Andalusian dialect is like the redneck version of Spanish?
>slowly turning into their own languages, fortunately
This is bs and you're retarded if you actually believe this, if anything modern media has rather begun a unifying process eg how South Americans often get Mexican dubs. As different as Spanish may sound from one region to the other it remains a single unified body
Google Real Academia de la Lengua Española
You're unironically pushing Speedy Gonzalez tier stereotypes, I get it you may not like Mexican Spanish but you obviously know shit about it if you're trying to make an argument out of this, which dialect are you even talking about?
coastal ecuadorian dialect is the best
fuck you all
i love you guys
>REA
It is the RAE Wilson Jenkins Rosario Perez Walton
oonga boonga pinche pendejo culia perrea
(maybe this way they wouldn't notice me)
Have you asked yourself this question but with English instead of Spanish?
los españoles tenéis el culo muy peludo.
>I get it you may not like Mexican Spanish
I don't have problems with any spanish accent, except pueltoliqueño, nuke the island
>sound effeminate
Coming from the accent with a lisp
if they did Mexico, Bolivia and Peru wouldn't be a thing
Schools and universities.
You damn cuck, best accent is from Guinea Ecuatorial.
>Oye compatriota chinguese a mi chamiquita para obtener los papeles mamahuevo
Ecuatorians are cucks and pretty lame desu
nah, that would be galician or asturian
i've noticed canadians speak a tiny bit differently word-wise than americans
and just look at how blacks at a low socioeconomic status speak compared to the average american white boy
Your accent is the girliest one of them all pal. Everyone knows this. Colombians are literally crying when they talk
nosotros no hablamos así español reflegajo de mamaverga chucha de tu madre anda a comerte 3 mil hectáreas de gaver maricón.
Look what happened with the ex-Yugos, now each country speaks its own language.
Ecuatorians literally beg Spaniards to fuck their daughters. It is pretty pathetic. In my school this panchita mother was arranging dates for his goblina daughter to get pounded by anyone. It was pretty weird
claro que sí muchacho.
>pls fuck my daughter. She is 17 and not pregnant!
Ecuador is a meme. No wonder you lost a war against fucking Perú lol
los ecuatorianos son junto a los peruanos los tiraflechas más feos
Castilian accent > the rest
Por eso se abren de patas tan facilmente y sus padres venden a sus hijas como mercancías. Ya me jodería ser un pancho alpino
Nunca entendi en que momento el acento Ecuatoriano se volvio tan similar al Mexicano. Explicame eso parcerito
The colonies weren't isolated from spain.
Also, we all have adopted common grammar rules. We spell the words exactly the same way regardless of the country.
You don't see shit like "Color" and "Colour" or "Center" and "Centre"
Spaniards are oblivious to just how much their accent is disliked and ridiculed across all Latin America.
Most people here actually dig it hard though
>You don't see shit like "Color" and "Colour" or "Center" and "Centre"
but you will find cojer and coger
>cojer
Literally a grammatical mistake. Cojer doesn't exist
>pls fuck my daughter. She is 17 and not pregnant!
O eso no es verdad, o esa señora tiene problemas mentales. Sería muy ingenuo de ti creer que una persona normal actuaría así, y mucho menos que un país esté lleno de gente así.
Pues no sé de qué hablas, Sé que el acento andino se parece en entonación al mexicano central, pero puede ser una coincidencia. Nosotros no usamos el mismo vocabulario, y el acento costeño no se parece en nada al mexicano.
Eso que escribió no se parece nada a como hablamos en México pinche balagardo pelagatos
Is that actually true? I thought Castillian in Latin America was like British RP English in the US - sign of high class and old wealth.
NO me refiero a lo que el escribio. Hablo de los ecuatorianos que he escuchado hablando en videos y en la vida real. Es bastante similar el acento mexicano central y del sur. Asi como el acento colombiano se asemeja al acento regio
es Jorge.pòr que le respondes
>almóndiga, albóndiga
>soja, soya
Castilian is by far the most intelligent sounding.
>Literally a grammatical mistake.
don't you think that color started as a grammatical mistake? USA adapted common grammar rules from the UK. Languages starts as grammaticals mistakes
Our dialects are turning more different though we can still understand each other without troubles.
But I still can't understand some songs from Caribbean countries, they I think will have its own variation of Spanish first.
Rara vez ustedes reconocen quién es quién.
No me sorprendería que confundieran a uno de ustedes con ellos, o un marroquí.
Son muy ardidos para reconocer que sus ancestros al otro lado del mediterráneo son los feos.
anyone who says almóndiga or soya is dumb as fuck
>implicando que no estamos orgullosos de nuestras raíces africanas
No parecen estarlo, además que gritan mucho para no dejar en evidencia su falta de masculinidad.
"soya" is more similar to the originary word, Japanese "shoyu".
Que ise illo?
Anyway, there is not an andalusian dialect, people into that region speaks in quite different ways.
Perople from Sevilla, from Granada, fror Cadiz or from Malaga speak different each other
The speaking of Cadiz and Sevilla is pretty much the same, in both cities seseo, in both provinces ceceo.
>we're cool with the spanish from Cuba
All Caribbeans have the worst accents.
I hate how exaggerated Spanish dubs sound, but I'm ok with how their youtubers and some TV people speak.
From the Sierra
>was like British RP English in the US - sign of high class and old wealth.
that hasn't been true for a very long time
most retarded shit ive read all day
we're still latins
Linguistic drifting becomes slower the higher the density of communication infrastructure so it couldn't have drifted on the same degree as say vulgar latin 1000 years before, luckily for the spanish language drifting was greatly mitigated by the early institutionalization of the language and then the creation of strict organizations such as the Real Academia, unlike english which possesses a lot of different roots, grammar in spanish has been almost set in stone for over 900 years with further changes being lexicon and dialectic.
An interesting phenomena however is the fact that due to the massification of communications through fiber optics infrastructure (the internet), a new process of "reunification" is going on, specially among the young people, a lot of mexican, spanish, argentinean and caribeño lingo has been internalized by other countries, and movements such as SDLG, facebook groups and forums like Taringa, and popular media consumption have created transhispanic communities where almost all lingo can be used exchangeably.
Beaners ruined Spanish for me and basically the identity of the language
Hysterical how they spite white people in a European language and while being like half Spaniard
> Amerifats ruined english for me and basically the identity of the language
Hysterical how they spite white people in a European language and while being like 56% anglo
Same literal shit with your abhorrent english.
Afrikaans is still understood by Dutch speakers, it is essentially a dialect of Dutch with lapsed grammar and slang imported from Zulu and other local languages in Zuid Afrika.
But your answer is collapsing school systems and protests against being educated by the colonists.
It did. Argentines are more fluent in Nahuatl than Spanish
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El mutt
wena cosmo
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The distinction between a language and a dialect is mostly political. And in general, for European colonial languages, you'll see two political factors in play: "we want to distance ourselves from the European country", and "we want the prestige associated with that European languages".
When the second factor outweighs the first, people call it a dialect - that's what happened with most languages in the Americas. And when the first outweighs the second, people call it a language.
I want to learn Spanish, which are the best-perceived accents in Spain? Also, do you guys in Spain like the rioplatense?
La escoria genética.
Spaniards IRL have a chill accent, YouTubers are greatly exaggerating it by shouting.
i hate all other spanish accents other than my own.
Mexicans are the worst though, even gay Spaniards sound better
In Horizon Zero Dawn you can choose Español latinoamericano, while American English isn't available.
>implying mexico bolivia and peru are a thing
fucking KEK
>Says the most mutted country in our region
Is obvious, but formally we are the same.
I dont know what you are talking about
Mutts O Sul
dont get mad little argentina
lol
That's a nonsense, truly.
They lost a war against fucking Peru?