Why are his kinos so unsettling

why are his kinos so unsettling
how does he do it

australian

the autism is inherent in his genetic lineage

literally who

Haneke, Michael.

His entire oeuvre is on such a different level. I ask myself the same thing, user

>australian
Lol what, he's from Austria

His misanthropy is tiresome. He doesn't have a sense of humor like LVT. He just sucks the joy and life out of everything. Fuck him.

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That's that guy from Cheech & Chong dude, they did like UP IN SMOKE.

>everything should be like muh marvel quips!

Has he even done anything since Amour

that was a great movie btw. Really changed my whole perspective on old people/aging.

hes got happy end coming out in october

That's not what that user was saying. See, Kubrick was often called a misanthropic director, but pic related is one of the most beautiful and heartfelt movies ever made. Haneke could never make a movie like this, because Haneke can't appreciate beauty. His movies are all full of deliberate ugliness and are screeds against fictional violence or western civilization or white people. His movies are the upper class, secular European version of fire and brimstone Sunday school lessons about how your every instinct is sinful and endless torture awaits you for it.

At heart, Haneke is a preacher, not an artist.

He digs deeper than most contemporary entry level arthouse directors/writers.
He goes beyond what's sweet and is at heart a pure pessimist who always shows his audience that life is not pure and that it's filled with things that are out of our control, that there is dark in everybody
That being said I disrespect him as a man and his work is nothing special in the greater sense, he attracts a big audience which, you can discuss with me about that, always seems to be something easily digestible art achieves.

Is preaching not an art form? Hitler was a magnificent speaker and he still moves people through his words, 80 years after they were recorded. I'd say preaching is a high art form.
Nevertheless, every art form requires a certain level of technical soundness and I think Hanekes films are well made, even if you don't agree with him or his work

Well, the word 'art' has a way of becoming almost mystical, so let me rephrase that. Haneke has no appreciation whatsoever for beauty or humanity, he only has appreciation for moral and political lessons about what he perceives to be the vile crimes of western civilization and horror movies.Every trace of beauty or surprise or anything that interferes with his didacticism is scrubbed out of his work.

To me, that makes for shitty art, but he obviously has his fans.

What are his best films? I've watched amour, the two versions of funny games, the pianist, time of the wolf and the white ribbon, is any other worth it?

Code Unknown is his best movie. 71 Fragments and Benny's Video are mediocre but watchable. Cache is regarded as one of his best but I think it's overrated.

i agree with this user. Amour was the most dramatic film Haneke ever did that actually made me feel somehow good because of the love between the two main characters. but then he has to ruin it as always and make the husband abuse the crippled wife and suffocate her in the end. he just can't help himself.

The Seventh Continent is one of his best kinos, very depressing too
Code Unknown is just alright in my opinion, i don't understand the motivation of most of his characters in that film.
Cache is great and one of his best, it deserves every praise it gets despite being a bit too "neo-marxist" in some regards, but that's just Haneke for you.
Amour is visually his most beautiful film if you have nothing against two geriatric main characters.
just forget about Bennys Video and 71 Fragments, he goes full fingerwagging Champaign-Socialist in these.

why do you like Code unknown so much? it's one of his overrated efforts in my opinion. why the fuck did the romanian woman keep coming back to france for fucks sake? she literally has a house in her homeland and decent living standards, why the hell does she want to be a homeless in Paris? that's why i just don't understand the act of "seeking refuge" in another country if you have nice living standards in your own... but it's probably never enough isn't it? the neverending greed of modern people.

I simply love Funny Games, what a brilliant play on the viewer.
At the first screening at Cannes the entire audience applauded and cheered when that guy finally got shotgunned to the wall, only to go dead silent in utter disbelief when the rewind happened.

You can just picture Haneke forming the most smug face in existence at that very moment

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I think Code Unknown is great mainly because of its characters. All of them are actually pretty well-rounded and have reasons to be so flawed (particularly George the war photographer). Also, I think the Romanian woman kept trying to go back to France because she was not a fan of Romania and felt that it was beneath her aspirations. I think she explains this to an effect when she tells the story about yanking her hand away from a beggar in France only to find herself on the beggar's side only a few years later.

george was the most reasonable in my opinion.
he just didn't want to get involved in other peoples shit. kind of fits to his profession as a war photographer who is basically a war tourist with a character who doesn't really get involved and just documents everything.
him secretly photographing people in the trains was a bit creepy though.
that one scene in the train with the peaceful young gentlemen was really intense and the high point of the film for me...

>that one scene in the train with the peaceful young gentlemen was really intense and the high point of the film for me...
If you're referring to the part with the Algerian hoods yeah that is definitely the dramatic high point of the movie. Also parallels the earlier scene where Anne hears a child crying and after listening for a couple minutes goes about her business.

yeah, it was really too moralistic from haneke to have the only character who stands up for anne be a migrant (the same guy who plays majid in cache). the scene would be more powerful if she just fled the train to get away from the hooligans and them following her for a few minutes. but haneke always wants to show how much more honorable and humanistic the old migrant is. also, the retarded hooligans speaking literate marxist phrases was a bit unrealistic. i met a lot youth of those kind and they barely know more than 500 words at all and don't talk anything like that.
i'm not racist at all but i don't like hanekes type of socialist who always wants to look for opression and decadence in western society which is actually the best form of society humankind ever had in history regarding wealth distribution, human rights and living standards but it's never enough for people like haneke and so they create media to undermine it.

I had no idea the old brown dude was Majid. It makes total sense though. I do think that the scene was earned and felt somewhat natural as opposed to ANYTHING that happened in Cache, and at least it wasn't French natives who were threatening her (that would turn me off the film instantly). Haneke's worldview is disgusting to me, but his work is at least worth a discerning view.

i like the fact that it doesn't get solved who did the videos in cache. it's hanekes idea of a narrative catalyst that sets off the films actions. most likely i think both sons did it, georges and majids. at the end they look like they know each other already...
majids son was probably the mastermind but didn't do the videos himself, he just said to george that he didn't shoot the videos, right? but it think he made georges son do it.
despite hating hanekes worldview i still enjoy his films and am very hyped for happy end despite it getting lukewarm reviews at cannes. it's probably not that good since even the cannes guys who always suck his dick and love his politics gave it mediocre reviews.

this must be the best thing ever, do you have a source?

I only read The Guardian's glowing review of Happy End. It sounds like a quintessentially Haneke film and I think that turned people off because of its predictability. I'm definitely going to watch it as soon as I can though. Love most of the cast, the clips I watched make it look particularly tense.

I think Majid's son has every reason to lie to George so I don't trust anything he said. It was all revenge for the sins of George's childhood.

>It was all revenge for the sins of George's childhood.
you know, this is another weakness in hanekes philosophy for me. how can you hold a person accountable for something he did when he was six fucking years old. that's just insanity for me. everyone does a lot of shit when they're six, respect of ethical values isn't fully developped at that point.
majids son treated george like he was some kind of criminal that really ruined his fathers life.

>majids son treated george like he was some kind of criminal that really ruined his fathers life.
and then Majid's sons actions indirectly caused his father to kill himself from shame. No one gets away clean in this one. I still consider it very sloppy writing and the allegory for Algeria is slapped-together.

addition to my postgeorge didn't deserve what majids son and maybe majid himself did to him and his family. his marriage and family is almost ruined just because of something he did at six.
also, why do you think majid killed himself? a final fuck you to george? or just an end to his miserable life in a low social status?

Shame, definitely. Having the cops throwing him and his son in holding while their possessions are tossed about was the final straw. He had hoped George would patch things up with him and maybe thought it was his final chance at having a good life. When George does the opposite and accuses Majid, Majid decides to just end it in front of George.

you think majid hoped george would give him money or why would he have a good life by reinstalling his relationship with george?
i'm not gonna lie, i did feel sorry for majid who turned out a nice guy despite being fucked over by life completely. he was genuinely happy to see george again. him crying after george left his flat and the flashback where you see social service taking him away as a kid really fucking crushed me despite me knowing it's a typical haneke manipulation.

>you think majid hoped george would give him money or why would he have a good life by reinstalling his relationship with george?
I think what Majid wanted was a connection or some form of companionship. He's obviously a very lonely guy: No wife, his son is out of control, peobably no friends at all, shithole apartment. it's a typical Haneke diatribe about how no one is connected but it's what everyone really craves. When George rejects the olive branch and instead makes Majid go through the humiliation of being arrested in front of his son (thos Mooslums are sure proud people), Majid decides to kill himself in a very dramatic way.

yeah, the connection part is a recurring theme of haneke. funny how much you can discuss in only one movie of his. also how george leaves his office early at the end of the film then goes to sleep after darkening the room. you really felt that his life is ruined too now.
do you think happy end will be his last? the reviews seem to imply it, since it's kind of a retrospective film.

>do you think happy end will be his last?
I heard he had shelved a movie he was nearly finished making about people having online relationships across the globe to make Happy End (which made me think he had been inspired by the ongoing problems in Europe so he kinda rushed this one to make it more relevant). So I think the movie about online relationships might be the last one, if he gets around to finishing it. I'm very excited to watch it. Felt the same when I was finally able to get a hold of The Seventh Continent (was the last Haneke I hadn't seen)