Why do governments refuse to build roads?

Why do governments refuse to build roads?

Do you see any pot-holes on that road? Any crevices or bumps?

Building an asphalt road is not fucking simple, you don't simply mix cement and pour it and call it a day.

Wow so insensitive of you, dont you think before talking ? They dont have roads there, of course they dont know jack shit about roads, you dont need to keep making fun about it.

actually if no government, roads wouldnt be free.
But it is no problem since you can sell heroin to 5 years olds to afford it.

>Building an asphalt road is not fucking simple, you don't simply mix cement and pour it and call it a day.
Bullshit, this is exactly how it's done over here.

And that's why your country is a shithole and you keep flocking over here.

Why are privately owned roads in much better condition than government roads then?

Capitalism wins again

Still, fuck toll roads though.
>Internal conflict intensifies

Yeah you do. I made a road simply by walking over the same patch of grass every day

Most of the time the government doesn't build roads, private company contractors do.
Governments just provide the funds to do so with tax payer money.

In Australia we have these roads where you pay to use them

Of course there aren't any potholes on that stretch. Go anywhere that gets snow amd ice over the winter and tell me what you find. Frost heave and giant craters everywhere. Our DOT doesn't even fill the fucking things.

>Why are privately owned roads in much better condition
Privately owned roads are only built wherever it is profitable, but small towns and far-off languages also need basic infrastructure.

There are many examples of costs that only a government would take, so a mixed system makes sense.

>free

What's a DOT

No it doesn't.

Rural populations should move to the cities because they live in low-profit zones.

T. Romania

They're free if you don't pay taxes

governments don't build roads to start with

Stop being an aspie.
It's not that complicated compared to other things. Sure, building a road is more complicated than building a desk, but building a TV is more complicated that building a road.

Stop being an idiot.
The argument shouldn't be about whether or not roads are hard to make (they're not), it's about whether or not a free market would build publicly accessible roads (it wouldn't).

In a libertarian society movement would be more complicated and harder, and maybe that's a good thing. Maybe it's a good thing that you don't have all these tax payer funded roads. Maybe we can be more tribalistic, have less human movement, force communities to be more self-contained instead of shipping all the jobs overseas etc.
That's what this should be about, not ''hurr roads hard to make!!! it not easy!!!''

>government is so broke it can't fix roads but not broke enough to actually not put signs to them.

It reminds me a sign in france that is seen sometimes on crappy roads that says "Be carreful, potholes taking shapes"

>small towns and far-off languages also need basic infrastructure
Why?. Enjoy gravel roads, plebs.

I once drove through the Normandy as a tourist and often had to pay for every section of the road seperately.

That is an abomination for a country with a government share of the GDP of 56%.

I live in an area that hasn't seen snow in 6 years and our roads suck dick and the highway construction project is over 2 years past due. At this point everybody sucks at building roads and I'll vote for no more traffic.

there's so much plastic waste.

why not melt it all down and make plastic roads?

PLASTIC FREAKING ROADWAYS

>Rural populations should move to the cities because they live in low-profit zones.

I do not know about Australia, but here in Europe we cherish and subsidize our rural life.

Why not burn it all and prove that global warming is a hoax?

Not very good argument for government being in charge of it

melting it down and maybe mixing it 50/50 with tar might actually work

>a mixed system makes sense
Not bad m8
But I have to shill against my local road. US20, absolute mess. Living in my area, either you're well off enough to buy a new car frequently, or you're poor enough to not mind blown out suspension.

Pic not from my interstate, but not far off.

Sun beating down on plastic? Not good

Department Of Transportation

LADOT is the Los Angeles Department of Transportation

Yaeh m8 in france most of the highways are not free. It is a real shame since they've been built on taxpayers money and later sold to the private sector, so we pay for it twice as much. corrupt politicans at work i presume.

however a part of the country, britain, struggled for free roads and so in this region roads remain free, even though they had to riot and physically destroy tax barriers to ensure it, pic related.

Frenchman here.
The French population is made of various shades of parasites, one quarter of workers are state workers, mass unemployment, cronyism, and of course niggers and muslims.

The industrious part of the country is about 1/5 of the population counting children and elderly. They are the most productive people in the world but even for them the current situation is impossible to sustain.

Then it would simply crack. Way too fragile and any change in temperature would simply destroy the road.

See, you ought to either have a state quota below 50%, or you have a government that justifies its state quota with superb services. The French have neither and that is lel.

>SOLAR
>FREAKIN'
>...
>ROADWAYS

God damn, anyone else remember that?

Good, good. Let the bourgouoisie feel the wrath of the opressed.

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be me, build road.. ask for money every time people use my road.. I'm rich.

We'll the government monopolized that, now only they can get rich from road tolls.

Here people go into politics just to build another road in the woods that leads to their weekend homes.

If you can build a road, youre already rich.
Unless its the middle of nowhere, but then no one will use your road

>Living in a third world shithole that has toll booths

Need money for other things. Like paying debts.

be you, have autism, thanks vaccinations

See: Illinois

Because you live in a retarded capitalist society you dumb romanian cuck

Anyone who thinks that long-term infrastructure projects can be outsourced to private contractors is fucking dumb, this type of project requires significant investment for it to last a long time, and the return on that investment doesn't come from the actual piece of the road/electricity line/whatever, meaning private companies have no way to make a lasting return on the project and have to be paid much more as a lump sum of money to work on it, have no incentive to do it well, and will cut corners at every opportunity

This type of fundamental construction HAS to be done by government-owned companies if you want it to be done well

Because you're a bunch of socialist weenies

>private roads don't exist

>make road
>charge people $10 per kilometer to use it
Good idea.

>what are tolls

In Australia most of our toll roads are electronic tolls. So it's not like tolls even cause congestion.

but road construction is outsourced to privately owned companies you retard

more important than roads:
refugees, healthcare for retards rapists and the poor, bombing potential refugees so they come and enrich your country, prisons instead of bullets

There are toll booths in britain.

Common use roads dont get built privately, only private use ones.
Basically you need governement to come and and demolish the space needed to build the road. Private companies cant do that on their own

Haven't seen a single one in [spoiler]Northern Ireland[/spoiler]

nice job Sweden. I don't even know if you're being sarcastic anymore.

roads are more important, followed by debts.

With bad roads, your economy will collapse.

It will be a long long time before airdrones will take over but until then we need roads.

Except you're a twat.

>$10 per kilometer
>Another company comes along and puts their price to $9 a kilometer, everybody moves to that road
>Original company sets price to $8, everybody moves to that road
>alternative sets to $7
>original sets to $6
>continue this until you hit Average Total Cost for the company to build and maintain the road
>It comes down to which company can maintain and build its road for the cheapest price thus demanding continual innovation to keep maintenance cost down

Free market everybody. Not that Norway knows about a free market.

literally all the government does is tell others to do things
you are saying we need them due to problems they created and then told other people to fix

That's because all but two of your roads are A roads.

'YEAH I'm a SJW in a pink vest and leggin and pink surfboard, holding it like a noob but wait can't surf because all the plastic is on the beach!'

yep

>road company fucks up and expect too much users or whatever, and collapse.
>their roads become free for as much time as they can maintain themselves
>all peoples go to free roads making to other companies go bankrupt
>???

>pay taxes to the government so that it maintains basic infrastructure
>government sells the road you paid them to build for you to some Goldbergsteinmann corporation
>mr. Goldbergsteinmann sets up a toll booth, making you pay for the road again every time you use it
>road comes into disrepair, mr. Goldbergsteinmann quietly dismantles his shell company used to buy the road because all he cares about is profit, he doesn't care for you stupid goyim living/using the road
>nobody can fix the road now

Capitalism is the greatest ruse
Letting the market control anything fundamentally important for the society is retarded, because the market exists to determine the most efficient ways to make money, rather than deliver the most quality service/product

She could stop surfing and start cleaning. Oh wait SJW never actually do anything and such jobs are beneath them.

Building roads generates no predictable (!) profits, whilst it is critical for the development of businesses in cut-off regions, so it should be done by the government in three out of four cases.

Mate, your roads are shit.

>their roads become free

are you fucking stupid? They would sell the road during liquidation to another company.

Thank you based russian to explain basic capitalism to a bunch of retards

The roads needs maintenance or else it will become shit....

Im not saying that.
You just cant get a common use road privately commissioned because the political leverage needed to build the road is only possible with government

It's a staged photo, rubbish migrates witht he currents, but that much looks like someone intentionally dumping or flash flood through a ghetto? Solution get BLM to clean it up! Give them something meaningful for once. 'If you don't clean the beaches then you won't get no KFC' new slogan

If it's anything like free market medicine, potholes will be reclassified as 'speed depressions' to save money on repairs while allowing them to report decreased issues with the road

This really is one of the greatest all time pro-government arguments ever.

>bu-but who will build the roads???
>who do you think builds all the driveways in the country you fuckwit?

>Capitalism is the greatest ruse
>pay taxes to the government so it maintain basic infrastructure

Have one or the other, but in a standard capitalist/minimal government economy, the government doesn't pay for infrastructure unless it's a pure public good, like lighthouses or street lighting.

You don't need government, but you need something, some kind of a middleman.

For example you can take care of the old and sick trough government programs, or you can have a church or any charity organization.
Someone needs to collect money from a large group of people and give that money for the cause.

This is libertarian 101.

Does anyone have the "hurr durr free market btw are you hiring? my job was outsourced to china" counter signal meme?

You could perfectly tender the maintenance or even construction of the road for a limited period of time to private companies and allow them to charge tolls. You could select on the basis of which company can provide the best service for the lowest toll.

>no predictable profit

says fucking who?

If someone lives in a cut off region, their region does not sustain enough profit, so either deal with it, or fucking move. It should not be the majority of tax payers burden for you to be a parasite to live as a hill billy.

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I know
one of those is done by gunpoint though
its stupid to think people can't do it themselves
like when kids in a class make someone a group/project leader

And if motorists don't like the pot holes, they can use another road. If the pot holes damage a vehicle, the company is sued by the courts for not upholding the contract between the customer and the supplier.

The road owner has an incentive to keep it maintained unless they want to go under from legal fees.

I've allways wondered why America doesn't have an autobahn system. If there's one country it'd make sense re: space distance, love of motoring, itd be America.

>region does not sustain enough profit
Most regions in every country are net benefittors of tax redistribution. That is the reality in every developed country.

>because the market exists to determine the most efficient ways to make money, rather than deliver the most quality service/product

The quality of the product is dependant entirely on the customer demand.

All the market does is attempt to find the most efficient ways of producing the goods in demand.

If the demand is quality products than that is what will be produced.

Its clearly staged at a landfill. I know our seas can be polluted but the day that amount of plastic washes up on one beach is the day we really ought to take this environmentalism thing seriously.

No revenue from speeding tickets.

>HURR If you don't find a job in your country just move to China and work as a slave making shoes.

But they're not potholes. If the speed depressions damage the vehicle, then the driver was clearly going at an inappropriate speed, just like with speed bumps.

The driver only knows the road is bad after using it. Beforehand they can just see the number of reported faults.

So why does the EU subsidize the living shit out of it farming industry?

If they produce profit, a company will come along and give them a road to use. And you act like a company would never build thousands of quality asphalt in the middle of nowhere.

They do it fucking plenty here in Australia for the mines. If your farmers and rural areas are as profitable as you say they are, a company will build a road since roads increase profit in general, so people will use the road and the company will turn profit,

And so the company that now has monopoly on that section turned the price up to $20 per kilometer.
Not an argument.
"So mr. Smith have you finished building your 0.0002 meters of highway?"
Lol

I didn't say that wank. I said deal with or move.

You think all the shoe makers in Chinese cities were forced there? No they willingly immigrated because there was extra money to be had rather than sitting in a rice farm all day. They didn't expect the government to come a build a road to them and set up industry in their rural shithole.

They actually do build roads. Outside of shitholes like romania at least.

To control the market, EU has massive over production, they leave fields to rot, pay off Farmers not to grow veg or livestock etc. Ut;s cucked! Then they ban non conforming veg like a wonky carrot! I'm not making this up. They are protectionists who promote watermelons from greenhouses in Spain and ban import fruit and veg from the Third World!

Just a reminder, in the medical example hallways were reclassified as wards, trolleys had wheels removed and got reclassified as beds, and the role of 'welcome nurse' was invented to greet patients and nothing else, thereby reducing the time it got patients 'seen'.

>And so the company that now has monopoly on that section turned the price up to $20 per kilometer.

Except than another company comes along and builds a cheaper road that everybody uses.

>You didn't find a job in your country, deal with it and move to China,

>Anyone who thinks that long-term infrastructure projects can be outsourced to private contractors is fucking dumb

You clearly have no idea on how public infrastructure works.

>this type of project requires significant investment for it to last a long time,

Yes it does and most big investment funds have infrastructure capital departments focused on investing into privately owned public infrastructure companies with time-horizons of 20-30 years.

> return on that investment doesn't come from the actual piece of the road/electricity line/whatever

It absolutely comes from those pieces of infrastructure as if you ever paid a utility bill you would know that it is not free.

Yeah, and the patients who paid for that care will never go back to that hospital. They will find a better hospital.

I have a new jobs, travelling Bible salesman in Saudi.....how long would I last?