Where were you when action films were saved?

Where were you when action films were saved?
> Choreographed fight scenes
> Not relying on quick cuts/shaky cam
> No comic relief character
> No audience surrogate
> Cameos that are fun and not referential
> Shows more than tells
This movie is too good for us.

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The Raid is better and was first

I was three years ago

>CGI headshots
>techno soundtrack

Hello, millennibabby.

it's just dudes running at JW one at a time, they're holding guns, but never firing them

You are joking right? In the second movie wick has a lightweight bulletproof suit just so he can be even more of a superhero..

John Wick 2 was a masterpiece. Even better than 1.

Part 2 pretty much sucked, tho.

JW1 is a refreshing return to basics after years of Jason Bourne shaky cam bullhsit

JW2 is a cashgrab that exposes the flaws of JW1 and borders on autism in many scenes

Chapter 2 felt like an adaption of a comic book with all that pretentious and bloated Continental lore.
Wick himself was straight up superhero,
>gets shot thrice by the violin playing lady
>his bulletproof suit protected him
At least in 1 you could delude yourself that he's just a very skilled assasin

I have no hopes for 3 since they're going to have to ramp up the action even more, making it even sillier.

>undestructable protagonist destroying any sense of tension from the beginning
>no sense for pacing
>no intriguing villain whatsoever
>mainactor cant act for shit
i mean sure it got well made action and if you are fascinated by that youll enjoy watching it for the sake of being nothing but a decent choreography.
but as a film its just so fucking boring. as the audience theres literally nothing to care about and feel invested. films so busy showing everyone to jerk off over its well made action that it forgets to become an actual piece of movie.

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>CGI headshots
Was he supposed to be killing people irl?

>techno soundtrack
fucking retard

This.

action movies from the 2010s that are better than JW2:

JW1
Dredd
The Accountant
The Raid

action movies from the 2010s that are better than all of the above:

The Raid 2

>mainactor cant act for shit
I like Keanu but this is sadly true

The Accountant was not good at all you mong.

>Choreographed fight scenes
Choreographed like every single film fight scene ever?

The Man from Nowhere was first. Considering wick was inspired specifically by that movie.

>raid 2
>not on the same level as JW2

JW1 the direction was far more creative and made you believe John could have pulled off the amounts of killing and fighting he did.

In 2 it's just retarded, the bad guys run up to him with guns instead of actually shooting him.

Yes, It was. Stick to F&F and capeshit, faggot.

WTF are you talking about. Action or not, The Raid 2 is one of the best cinematic experiences of this decade.

JW2 is just an enjoyable yet forgettable sequel to a much better movie.

I'd rather just watch another John Woo movie desu

I haven't seen John Wick, but besides the action The Raid sucks

>better than JW2
>the accountant

Excommunicado yourself

A Better Tomorrow gets me the feels and the end with the two brothers

The sequel is stranger because they've used the twin brother technique to add the same actor in the movies

Why do people have issues with the bulletproof suit? It's not like the director used it as an excuse that he couldn't die, because he got shot several times and visibly stumbled due to the bullet impacts. He stayed in character with all his injuries, including that leg limp that stuck with him for half the movie.

I was waiting to be disappointed, and was not. The second was even better. Can't wait for the third.

JW1 was a campy and silly action flick, I liked JW2 more.

>ywn get a movie where they actually kill people on camera
Immersion broken man.

The sequel was stranger, but the ending more than made up for any problems I had with it

yeah but when will it be on TV?
>paying $20 to see an action flick

>Why do people have issues with the bulletproof suit?

Because they are plebians who don't know it's a real thing.

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they should unironically do this, just cast suicidal people who'd be shooting themselves in their own homes anyway who sign consent forms for the stunt team

>waiting for movies to come on TV and not pirating them

This, what the fuck ? You actually watch edited for television movies with commercials?

no I watch them on HBO or Starz or Netflix without commercials

and my parents paid some lawyer money because they got one of those scary ISP letters before. I only download porn now

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>Had this idea back in 7th grade and mentioned it to my english teacher as we were watching Schindlers List.

>she reported me to the counselor

Isn't this basically every action movie franchise ever?

Even The Raid 2 suffered from this, it goes from badass rookie just about holding his own against hordes of drug addicts to Rama vs The World and completely screws over the ending to 1 to wipe the slate clean. It was just excusable because it's still a really amazing film on its own and the choreography is still miles above anything else.

>paid some lawyer money because they got one of those scary ISP letters before

fucking lol

I mean like as a movie device. Obviously it exists in real life, but I'm saying that it wasn't used as a flat out explanation as to why Wick could magically survive an onslaught of bullets.
It was used to show that it merely increased his survivability against large numbers of skilled assassins, as there were several instances where he was visible shot, causing him to show signs of pain.

Also as an extra note. Anybody who honestly believes that the final boss fight in The Raid 2 was better than 1 needs to leave.

>undestructible protagonist destroying any sense of tension
Actually one of the best parts of JW is that John actually gets beaten and wounded several times throughout the film. He gets scarred up and limps around and struggles to function because of his injuries. The bulletproof suit does lessen this tension a bit, but he still limps around for a lot of 2. Compare this to Vin Diesel in FF or even the classic action stars like Schwarzenegger (no hate, Arnie is the fucking man) who barely even get scratched in their films. JW is pretty fallible despite his high kill count.
>no sense of pacing
The pacing in the second one is a bit wonky but JW1 is paced beautifully. Full half hour buildup to puppy death and John getting established as the boogey man before we see any action. Then the first action scene is short and sweet with Wick taking out the guys in his house and the action steadily builds from there.
>no intriguing villain whatsoever
JW2 had a shit villain but I really like Viggo in the first one. He's funny and charming and terrified of John Wick but still intimidating enough to be a believable gangster.
>mainactor cant act for shit
Keanu can't act but he really doesn't have to. ALL he does is kill people. He is one of the best choices for a role like this because he can physically do the stunts and fighting and makes all the shooting look convincing because he trained for months.

It's still way overchoreographed. It's like he's playing a videogame and knows where the enemies are and what they'll do. Less is in this case more.