Military Aviation In Film

Why are good aviation movies either severely underrated,
unknown, and are diamonds in the rough?

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Memphis Belle

shit hammy acting by a wide range of future stars as everyone does it for the money or exposure with a trite script nodoubt sold to them as "oscar worthy", but the aerial cinematography is just gorgeous. Watch it for the planes & technical beauty.

Also I'd recommend Empire of the Sun.

The planes fill little screen time overall but a love of them is central to christian bales dubs.. err. whatever. he points alot.

Seen em both, good choices user, although I must ask: Have you seen Dr.Strangelove or Royal Space Force?

Stealth

Iron eagle?

>GOOD aviation movies
>Stealth

Pick one.

Typical 80's Glam Rock bullshit. It was a fun watch though, but I would never go to it for a serious watch.

op stated that there are no bad aviation movies.

Der Stern von Afrika.

Beyond the usual suspect, Top Gun (which I still haven't gotten around to seeing), I really can't think of a film that centers around military aviation.. Maybe you could consider Independence day, but I'd say that was more of a scifi than anything. There's the Aviator which is a good film in it's own right but is more about creating planes. I'd argue that the average person isn't interested enough in aviation to justify studio investing in films, it's also very expensive to work with planes in film so unless you want the planes to be CGI it's seems unlikely we'll get a good aviation film with real planes having lots of screen time

I stated that good aviation movies are pretty unknown, not that all aviation movies are good.

How do you misinterpret something so badly?

Flight of the Intruder

Air america?

>Firefox
not one of Clints best known movies but its a hidden gem. slow burner but gets there.

Top Gun was a pretty standard 80's action movie IMO, the aerial cinematography was amazing, like a better made, rewatchable Iron Eagle.

The Aviator was very entertaining and it genuinely made me interested in Howard Hughes, but I still know relatively little about Hughes and his real life. Funny enough, I saw that movie in a burnt-out-style motel while taking a trip to Arkansas.

If I must recommend one movie worth watching that had a shitload of money rightfully sank into it, watch the Battle of Britain, gorgeous movie, it'll raise your hair and keep you on the edge of your seat. Best action and aerial photography out of any aviation movie I've ever seen.

Been meaning to watch this, thanks for reminding me, user.

I've only seen a clip from this where Clint has to "Think In Russian" or something along those line, I'll make sure to watch this one too.

Dambusters

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>watch the Battle of Britain
That's the one where pilots from Poland were chatting in kurwa speak?

Also do WWI movies count? Red Baron and Flyboys.

Chrome is better

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Is there a movie about the Israeli Air Force in the 6 day war? Seems like that would be good material

>this whole battle
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>people talking in broken English is enough to make the movie unrealistic
>Red Baron and Flyboys

user, you tell me one aviation movie that has better/more realistic combat scenes than Battle of Britain.
The only one that comes to mind is Tora! Tora! Tora!, Red Baron and Flyboys were shit CGI movies, Red Tails-tier garbage.

If you want a good WW1 Aviation movie, try "Wings" or "Hell's Angels".

And to clarify, Tora! Tora! Tora! isn't better, but the combat scenes are very comparable to BoB.

whatever you do don't watch Redtails, it's so unbelievably shitty I consider it an affront to the historical record and a slight against the real pilots.

Ace Combat movie adaptation when?
>Mobius 1 played by Ryan Gosling

>thirty-millimeter cannons smash through P-51 and pilot
>doesn't make both the plane and pilot instant-mincemeat

Agreed user, I could literally go on all day about that movie but I don't want to waste my fucking time.
It actually pisses me off, more disrespecting than "empowering" as Lucas and co. intended.

I was at least willing to try after the trainwreck marketing with fucking dubstep trying to sell me on a WWII war movie but it was just way too fucked.

There was even a part where one of the bomber pilots sees that the escort pilots are black, totally shitting on one of the most powerful parts of the story where some of those bomber crews didn't learn until years later they were black. Really fucked up a potentially easy moment where right at the end the flash forward a few years to an old pilot learning that he owes his life to black pilot doing a job that most people assumed they couldn't do. Seriously why the fuck do studios and writers and directors not understand how they fuck these things up so bad.

Final Countdown is an underated cold war gem

the silly premise(USS Nimitz being transported back to Dec 7 1941) is handled in an interesting and weirdly realistic way plus it was made with the full co-operation of USN so the porno shots of VF-84 Tomcats and the in depth depiction of carrier ops make it worth watching on its own imo

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>try to recreate this scene in CMANO
>a Zero somehow fires its 20mm and destroys a F-14 manuevering at much higher speed

IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO END LIKE THIS

Bridges of Toko Ri
Blue Max
Wings, a soviet film from the 60s. Interesting enough to check out

Black Sheep Squadron, tv show

if we're talking anime, there's a bunch of great aerial combat focused series.
Sento Yosei Yukikaze, The Cockpit, Area 88, and Macross (although the latter is more of a mecha series with mechs designed by a plane autist).

I really hope Top Gun 2 is successful, so Cruise can get his Yukikaze adaptation funded.

>turn battle with a zero and wins

ahahaha
so fucking stupid

The zero always was better in a dogfight than american planes.

there's an older tuskeege airmen movie that's actually way less retarded
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tuskegee_Airmen
still, it's an HBO straight to TV flick, but w/e

It is a niche genre.
Pic related, best aviation kino there is.

What is the anime in the webm?

The Cockpit

The Wind Rises

100% pure kino

Flyboys has really nice flight scenes

>Royal Space Force?
Is that an adaptation of the graphic novel?

There is no graphic novel.
There was supposed to be a sequel called Uru in Blue, but that's been 20 years in the making, and now that Anno is suing the shit out of Gainax, its probably dead.

Shit, I'm thinking Ministry of Space

Stealth is great fuck you.

The Edward's AFB portions of The Right Stuff is super comfy

"no"

Stealth was just a knockoff of Macross Plus.

they aren't really getting into slow turning battles in that scene though. they are vaguely matching the Zero's turns at higher speed before zooming past rather than getting into a slow turning fight

>so Cruise can get his Yukikaze adaptation funded.
Serious?
> omg...

>diamonds

It was announced in 2015, but since then, nothing.
Either Cruise is just too busy with Top Gun, or the jews think yet another Japanese novel adaptation wouldn't sell much after Edge of Tomorrow didn't do that well.

i remember flyboys being pretty good but i saw it when i was a kid so im not sure if ir still holds up

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>Strategic Air Command 50s Docu-Drama about nuking commies commissioned by Curtis LeMay.

top comfy

>cartoon shows Ta152
Damn, this japanese animation stuff might be worth looking into

Leiji Matsumoto, who wrote The Cockpit, is a big WW2 plane nerd. He even has an original working Revi C12/D gunsight from a BF109.

>camera shaking intensifies

all i can hear in my head when that happens is the distorted base noise from meme videos

>i have the target in my sights
>BFFFFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBFBF

kino, although the OVA is still better.
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But isn't Edge of Tomorrow sequel/prequel already in the works?

>Macross Plus
The fighter porn in this makes my dick harder than adamantium diamonds.

Firebirds.

I'm an apache pilot and this film is so cringey it makes me almost embarrassed. but its like something everyone watches once.

This

>I'm an apache pilot
Yeah? Is it badass? How often do you get to shoot shit.

Kawamori is GOAT at mecha design.

Phantom shitter

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>Tora! Tora! Tora!
>Bad.

Wait what?

>several Ta 152 prototypes crashed early into the test program. It was found that critical systems were lacking sufficient quality control. Problems arose with superchargers, pressurized cockpits leaked, the engine cooling system was unreliable at best due in part to unreliable oil temperature monitoring, and in several instances the landing gear failed to properly retract. The Stabstaffel never had more than 15 Ta 152Hs available, both H-0s and H-1s. Since the usual transfer system had broken down, replacement parts became nearly impossible to obtain.[10]

An early Ta 152 combat occurred on 14 April 1945 when Oberfeldwebel Willi Reschke tried to intercept a De Havilland Mosquito over Stendal, but failed to catch up due to engine trouble.[11]

Ta-152 was a piece of shit

I never said it was bad. user do you need reading glasses or is everyone just taking what I say and making their own interpretations of it?
I said it wasn't better than BoB since BoB is THE BEST military aviation movie that I've seen, I even said that Tora! Tora! Tora! was comparable, that's pretty fucking good IMO.

There was another military aviation movie called Wings and I didn't know about it?
Weird.

I've watched it but I really wish they'd drop the anime tropes. Either way, the animation is very good and I'd watch it again if I was bored and had nothing better to do.
Good recommendation.

>F6F pilots had an average 19/1 ratio
Uhuh user, sure, good bait.

Gotta disagree, user.

Agreed, the Wind Rises was very sweet, loved the main character. TO CLARIFY, I am not saying the Wind Rises is the ULTIMATE kino, I'm saying it IS kino, my words have been twisted enough today that I feel the need to put this clarification.

Sorry user, but Stealth was and is just a mindless 80's-esque shoot-em-up film, a CGI-filled shit show just like Flyboys or Red Baron but set in modern day.

>The Right Stuff
Good taste, user.
>Why do you take the gum with you? To keep your nerves calm while you try to advance science?
>Nope, it's to keep this baby together when I push it to full throttle!

Nicholas Cage warrants a watch, it's gonna be shit, I know, but Cage always finds a way to entertain me.
Thanks for the suggestion, user.

One time me and my squad leader were advancing up a hill in Rising Storm 2, suddenly he just starts yelling at me and my squad to hit the deck, just in time for two silver canisters to go zooming over my head, spinning, and coat the entire hillside in nape. JFC I really want to play IL-2:1946 with The Jet Age mod now.

This.
A lot of German technologies were perfected by the West after the war. DESU, German planes are overrated.

>battle of britain

oh sweet jesus, the sound of the spitfires makes me jizz in my pants
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Dam Busters has dialogue which Lucas near word-for-word lifted from two of the critical scenes -- probably by accident, but you know.

Sauce?

>Top Gun
>Top Gun 2
>Top Gun: Yukikaze

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The entire trench run from star wars was copied from dambusters