Why did this movie resonate so deeply with Sup Forums back in the day?

Why did this movie resonate so deeply with Sup Forums back in the day?


This movie would have been so much better if most of the middle was cut out.

fight club is a better antiestablishment theme

Sup Forums used to be corny and obvious in its taste.

It had to go through several stages of contrarianism to move past 'obvious' forms of edginess to arrive at where it is now.

Like the whole mocking of edginess itself was one development.

Mocking fedoras and what that supposedly entails was another.

And obviously dropping the "NEVER FORGIVE NEVER FORGET" Anonymous nonsense.

See also the "Nothin' personal" meme.

It didn't.
Anonymous was never Sup Forums.
It was a recruiting ground for script kiddies.
Which evolved into a recruiting ground for SJW and hacktivists.
None of it was actually Sup Forums.
Plenty of other forums/websites were used.
Including GoGaia.
Let that sink in, including GoGaia.

>Sup Forums used to be corny and obvious in its taste
It still fucking is if you think about it. This site was always meant for shitposting. Anyone who took it seriously above that was just delusional.

See also:

"TWISTED FUCKING PSYCHOPATH"
"MOM'S GONNA FREAK"

Totally, but there's also a reasonable amount of self-mockery of the whole lameness of geek culture and of the edgy / grimdark marketing we grew up on.

Because we were 13-17, so anarchy was the coolest shit around. We were trained to think that fascism was the truest form of evil and Nazi-expies were either to be feared or mowed down in faceless droves. We thought that everyone would operate under the best intentions for the greater good, blaming negative attributes on totalitarianism and greed rather the inherent evil that exists in every man. We assumed that everyone, including ourselves would just naturally strive to achieve for the greater good wihtout incentive. We took the Charlie Chaplin speech seriously, as something to live for

>anyone who took it seriously was delusional
So I guess the /fit/ sticky is just fucking worthless, right?

Cause Kino Weaving is in it.

>Because we were 13-17, so anarchy was the coolest shit around.

Haha yeah this too.

There used to be a palpable teenage flavor to Sup Forums. Obviously still some, but a lot of us have grown older here and it shows. There's more a hardened, seasoned veteran vibe now (not to say all of us are that better)

>There's more a hardened, seasoned veteran vibe now
Which is also accompanied by people trying to pull off that vibe in their posts and failing at it.

No there isn't 'oldfag'.

Yeah it's a component of the general affect of the groupmind now.

Were you here before 2008 or 9?

It felt way younger.

It feels alot younger now than it ever has, then again I only browsed Sup Forums for a very long time and never watched how each board developed it's own 'unique' culture.

There's always someone around to be a faggot. But it is true that Sup Forums was an edgy teen who doesn't fit into the 00s mainstream honeypot.

The thing is, though, we grew up. I thought anarchy was the coolest shit back in the day. Fast forward a few years and I found that "epic raids" don't fill the hole in my heart and anarchist philosophers are marxist delusional tier.
Fast forward to today and I'm religious. But not in a meme way like normalfag faggots are. I take things I keep in my life seriously. Say about chan culture what you will, but I think you'd be lying if you said it didn't make you analytical and detailed. You needed to learn how to defend things you like on here, or you'd run to Ebaums World and Leddit.

The movie is a perfect analogy to anarchism and Hollywood leftism, too. Accept it and you'll end up a dead genetic end and a freak of nature. Just like the directors. Of course furchan recoiled in contrarianism after realizing that.

>It feels alot younger now than it ever has, then again I only browsed Sup Forums
Of course when Sup Forums used to be for everything and anything and now it's only for porn. Nothing but leddit teens left there.

Tbh I used to praise this until I read the comic.
Fuck, it now seem like a children's movie to me. So black and white. The cop that understands the cause through hiatory and let things be, no gray zones about V, nothing.

People defend their arguments on Reddit. The real difference between here and Reddit is that here there's no expectation of being polite, and much less modding. Here, if you think someone is a subhuman retard, you just call him a subhuman retard. On Reddit there's this pervasive expectation of politeness that often keeps discussions from really cutting deep. And mods tend to get rid of anything that goes too far outside mainstream norms.

Sounds like you were a lot more right when you were 13-17 than you are now, except for the believing in anarchy part.

Because it was what Sup Forums needed back then. It showed that the idea was more important than the individual behind it. That the meme was more powerful than the bullshit that was being pushed

>People defend their arguments on Reddit
They don't. They just apologise and say *personally, I feel like this is my personal opinon no offense*

calling someone a faggot isn't cutting deep

It didn't. The mask/anonymity imagery was taken advantage of but that is it.

ITT millenials pretending to be oldfags muse on Sup Forums's development.
"I've been here since I was 13 bro!"
It's PRETTY fucking obvious that the average age here as decreased drastically, and it's getting worse and worse. Just, say two years ago, I used to browse /sci/ a lot, but that board is completely untouchable today.

>"I've been here since I was 13 bro!"
14 actually

Hey now, I'm not pretending shit. I got here 2 years ago. I'm convinced that I'm better for this place than many, perhaps most oldfags, though.

I think this movie came out at around the same time where internet flash games and videos were at their peak on websites like Newgrounds. Sup Forums was getting a huge surge in popularity from all of those underage B&s because of the crossing over of the cultures and memes. Shit like shoop da whoop was huge, facebook was gaining in popularity amongst normies young and old alike rampantly, and somewhere along the line V for Vendetta inspired memes like Epic Face Guy and 'We Are Legion' to fully pop as mainstream.

So it started as an easy allusion to Anonymous and through massive layers of assumed irony posting and underage memeing on Sup Forums turned into the cancer of its age, I'd say

I've been here since 2007. First stopping by in 2006. And I disagree with you.

It came out during the low point of the Bush administration when anti-government sentiment was peaking. We're overdue for a V For Vendetta 2 during the Trump administration when 90% of America hates the president and is praying for him to die.

Trump is vastly better than Bush, and the statistic that you wish were true isn't.

Interestingly, Sup Forums has also been hoping for a new-left art movement to come out of the current reality, and the opening months have been found wanting.

Bush was way better than Trump. Bush was an actual president. He made bad decisions but he was a leader unlilke Trump.

lol no
Bush is a devout Christian, Trump believes only in his own overinflated ego.

>Sup Forums culture was all of 4chins, just like Sup Forums is all of 4chins today
I'm only here since 10/11, because i was more of a totse kind of guy, but wasn't Sup Forums supposed to be the cancer that's killing Sup Forums?

>So I guess the /fit/ sticky is just fucking worthless, right?
Just like the rest of the board lmao

>He made bad decisions but he was a leader unlilke Trump.
please tell me what it means to be a "leader"
>inb4 DRUMPF'S DIVIDING THE COUNTRY
The media is doing that way more

It's about a tranny who destroys a society through brainwashing plebs through TV screens. Let that sink in.

The media also shat a lot on Bush.
But he took it like a man instead of crying about every little thing on twitter.

>muh media
So Trump failing at everything and lying about everything is just the media? Trump can't get anything done because he's not a real president and not a leader. He has no plans, no leadership ability, and no future in America.

Sup Forums was much better back then. Anybody still sticking around from then are only doing so out of habit and complacency.

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Nope, nope, a thousand times nope. Get fucked.

Replay your latter sentence and step outside yourself a moment to hear how stupid you sound. Also, allow at least two years to elapse on the current administration before comparing it with another.

Bush's sincere Christianity is exactly what makes Trump better than him. That and how, more than any other individual human being, Bush is most to blame for the current refugee crisis. I do not say this lightly, as it is not my instinct to blame America. But we are fortunate that Europe isn't even madder at us than they currently are.

Why does this site have to be a members only one?

Why can't fellow outsiders come together talk bullshit with each other?

I hate the way the world is changing and just want to have a good time with fellow comrades.

And i'm a young 20yo buck

rewatched it and it still resonates with me. its kind of a allegory for whats happening right now. all these shit heads hyped up on a populist who promises to get rid of the people they don't like but really they are just sacrificing freedoms for a false sense of security and its doing is making the other side more extremist. its like a pendulum of insanity.

Funny how the kids on Sup Forums today unironically believe in fascism now.

They believe in violence, that's what they were trained for.

Underaged ban detected. Bush was a thousand times better than Trump and still bad. Trump is by far the least effective president we've ever had. Even Jimmy Carter could get more done. Trump is a weak pussy who is crying on twitter while his legacy falls to pieces and his presidency burns to ashes. We've never had a president this pathetic before.

except trump is basically doing exactly what bush would be doing and is relegating pretty much everything to his generals and GOP controlled congress.
Notice how everything he campaigned on is getting btfo'd while the typical neocon establishment agenda is in full force? That wall you want? never getting built. That ban you want? not gonna happen. Stop the Saudi/Israel influence on our government? Nah we're gonna strengthen those ties.
you got conned.

Good love story to say the least.

the lesbian shit ruined this movie for me.

Alan Moore said the movie was basically Bush Era agitprop.

Alan Moore very clearly
says, V is a morally gray individual, and that the whole point is to present the people living and running a fascists society without bias.

But the 90s's-2000's were mired by a somewhat infantile anarchist view of the world of an "us vs them" mentality. You see this in the Matrix (which though influenced by the Invisibles, Grant Morrison heavily subverted this trope), Fight Club, and V for Vendetta (the movie), and in real life in Occupy Wall Street (which fizzled out precisely for that reason).

Sup Forums no doubt because of its anarchist nature just followed these tropes. Now it follows the heavy partisanship that exists in the US. Sure there is some spontaneity that exists, like Donald Trump and Kek, but Sup Forums has always been a follower of the simulacra presented to it.

cause your culture is alien and has shifted the original spirit this site once had. newfags have really morphed this site with every event.

I am thirty-three years old. Your error consists in viewing the present, the short-ball, which you haven't corrected.

I lived through Bush and actually understood the arc of his presidency as it happened.

>things that didn't happen

here here, friend. Saliday!

Freedom to go out driking with my friends is the only real freedom I need, friendo. Not all of us are Americunts who need freedom to sodomize each other on faggot prides in front of 10 year old kids. Fuck that freedom.

Also, le anonymoose down with fascism XD is populism supreme.

>Why don't you want billions of economic migrants on welfare in your country?

>That wall you want? never getting built. That ban you want? not gonna happen.
>that ban you want
>he doesn't know

everyone point and laugh

I'm older than you, kiddo. Trump is off to the worst start of any president. He is ineffective, directionless, and the country has no leader. This cuck can't do anything. Bush at least was "the decider" in his words. Trump can't make decisions. He runs away to play golf every week to avoid his responibilities. He doesn't make decisions, he doesn't review policy, he doesn't take intelligence briefings, he doesn't give his party any leadership. He's just a pathetic child who is failing at the first real job he's ever had.

what are you? a fucking child? grow up.

Ruthless.

The ban has been salvaged as of a few hours ago, idiot.

Also I unlike the Sup Forums zeitgeist (that is, being an adult) genuinely expected Trump to moderate once he took the oath, which has happened It's this lack of adulthood which makes anons here flail about like (((journalists))), again getting caught in the daily grind like the above fag.

Lol it wasnt your turn. get over it.

not yet but those that have been put in power desire to limit your freedom.
well its quite possible they could take away your vice. its been done before. its something they'd want.

My worst vice is sloth and failing to go to Church each Sunday. I welcome any help in overcoming it.
It's not really an argument, though. It's a low effort what if something bad happens question.

>thinks I'm a Dem
I don't have a party. This isn't about left/right or Dem/Repub. This is about America having a non-leader who can't make decisions and can't get anything done. He has no idea what he's doing and he's squandering the only opportunity he'll ever have to make something meaningful in his life. America will survive. It's a strong country and can live through four years of a shitty non-leader. But Trump's legacy is over. He proved he doesn't have what it takes to be president.

>tfw cancer like this is normalized on Sup Forums now

The most important point about the former post is that it is objectively and irrefutably false. Under Lincoln, the South seceded.

As to modern presidents, each side has an axe to grind when someone is seen to be taking vacation. Both Bush and Obama took lots, and Trump also is trending towards Florida. Again, you're not getting it - more of a trendline is needed.

As for the rest, you're blithering and you know it.

>Mass replying to anything that slightly resembles your shitty assumptions
Spot the faggot

Trump has taken more vacation in the first 200 days than the previous 7 presidents combined. He's a lazy cuck who doesn't have to be in Washington because he isn't doing his job even when he is there.

This is why you never vote for a fatso

because you're fucking stupid that's why

At the time Sup Forums was more left-anarchist than right-nationalist. If it came out today Sup Forums would have embraced Sutler.

HEY!

BE NICE!

>Hey now, I'm not pretending shit. I got here 2 years ago.
>I'm convinced that I'm better for this place than many, perhaps most oldfags, though.
just end me

>We took the Charlie Chaplin speech seriously, as something to live for
>the charlie chaplin speech is not worth striving towards.
Absolute degenerate

kek, it got delayed and is going to be struck down. Also everyone that it previously affected it no longer applies to. So the "ban" is a temporary one that only applies to people with no ties whatsoever to the US. Also we're still taking in refugees from Syria. WEW. Or wait, did you actually think terrorists from the middle east (btw he's leaving out /ourguys/ saudi arabia and Iraq) so you have a temporary faux "ban" on a demographic of the middle east (the ones with no connections to US) that is the least likely ones to commit a terrorist attack and that basically is nothing like what the original promise was. congratulations.

It's a bunch of platitudes that say nothing. Pure actor charisma and nothing else.

I have been here since love can bloom.

one of the most reddit posts in a while, well done

Bush didn't throw a hissy fit when the fourth estate made fun of him.

>Even Jimmy Carter could get more done.
>implying trump has the moral integrity of jimmy.
kek

>the south seceeded
And lincoln broke their legs and dragged them back into the union.

Just because you don't visit the less popular boards doesn't mean all of Sup Forums is for shitposting. Fuck off.

/trv/ is max comfy

>can't refute the argument
>"R-R-REEEDDIT"
wanna know how I know you are a redditor?

bush was a piece of shit and acted like a retard, but you're right he took so many criticisms and shit from everyone and never showed it affected him. he would do that chuckle laugh of his or dodge shoes being thrown at him. looking back compared to trump he was professional as fuck.

but at the time people couldn't believe the dumb shit he said. unless a fucking retard wins the next election i can't phantom trump being replaced as biggest piece of shit to enter the white house.

Have faith in the american electorate user!
Seriously, is there a dumber celeb than trump?

kim kardashian for the first female president!

he's not dumb. if he's dumb how come he's rich and the president? dumb people cannot be rich and successful you dumb libshit.

Thanks for the free (you)

But really tell me what it was like before my kind came here and fucked up your holy site.

He would have made more money if he just kept his money in the bank.

The movie itself never resonated. The mask was used for some memery and the poem he says at the beginning was modified to be about Sup Forumstards, but that was the extent of it. It didn't start some heartfelt anarchist dialogue on here, it just had some props used from it because it was a movie a lot of younger people had seen recently at the time.

No one takes those Legion faggots seriously. Honestly they never did.

It was fun.

Which is immaterial to my correct point which refutes the above user: Lincoln most certainly had " a worse start" than Trump, to speak in the above idiot's vagaries.

I appreciate your general sentiment however.

It's literally always been this way but has steadily gotten worse over time as "your kind" began to feel entitled. It's just going to get worse until Sup Forums as it was ceases to be and is completely overwhelmed by gen edge and beyond. This is life though, so it doesn't really matter.

this

anyone arguing with this guy has to explain why Generals have become so prominent on every single board. i think he's wrong too, but other than a hunch there's nothing to prove it and all the evidence is in his favour

Sup Forums's demo has shifted downward

I've been on Sup Forums for about 11 years.

Some boards have gotten worse. Sup Forums is just Sup Forums with a vidya flavour.

Sup Forums has actually gone strength to strength, which was weird to witness.

Sup Forums hasn't changed much, same as Sup Forums. board most likely to have a tripfag claiming superior taste.

Some of the other boards haven't changed much since their inception, like /an/ and /fit/.

Over-all you can tell the average age has gone down, and outside of Sup Forums people lean far left.

We've gone from 'final boss of the internet' to SJWs. Sad really. The only rules we really had years ago was don't fuck with cats and NYPA.

>Some boards have gotten worse. Sup Forums is just Sup Forums with a vidya flavour.
Sup Forums is much less Sup Forums than it was years ago.
Its front page used to be filled with straight Sup Forums threads and porn dumps.

>Sup Forums hasn't changed much
It didn't used to be full of Sup Forums and Sup Forums shit.
It did have other crap though, like waifufagging, abatap, botting, ...