Why do people tend to go from being left wing to right wing but never the other way around...

Why do people tend to go from being left wing to right wing but never the other way around? And what was the main thing that made you more right wing?

Going from left to right is going from feeling to fact.
When you've done that, very hard to turn back.

I used to be an edgemaster, le free markets etc

Then I lived on my own, saw the poverty some people live in and now I support a welfare state to keep people fed, think contraception should be free so poor people can avoid kids while still enjoying sexual relations, etc

I still maintain that Western culture is the most magnificent thing the world has ever seen though; even more so the more time I spend in academia (physicist).

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Because the red pill is the ultimate wake up call.

Right to left is pretty common, when young people raised in right wing environments start going to school they quite often switch.

Unfortunately you don't get a lot of right-relevant discussions in school. You would never expect to have to discuss why the people might feel a certain war was justified or anything like that, it's all very one sided. Things like WWII are effectively glossed over, despite it being the biggest event in human history, which is really more sad than infuriating.

I'm sure the consensus in this thread will be "because people get smarter as they get older" as it is the motive of the OP to invoke an ad-hoc fallacy in place of actual reasoning.

The truth be told, the right-wing values tradition and so fourth and older people value tradition and so fourth. The left-wing values potential and social re-organization and younger people value potential and social re-organization.

Intelligence has no causal relationship with where one stands on the red/blue dichotomy.

Right wing is full of truths based on facts. When too many feelings destroy everything, smart people wake up and venture into the right. I was beginning to go slightly left before this election, but honestly, Trump started me on the trip right. Next it was this site, Sup Forums.

You shitlords can laugh and call me a newfag or whatever. I mean I've been browsing Sup Forums since 08. But never really ventured this far right before.

We gotta stick together, from the natsocs to the pinochets.

>And what was the main thing that made you more right wing?
Reality.

>and now I support a welfare state to keep people fed
Only if they're white. I can't fucking stand all the 3rd world immigration infecting the west right now.

I'm the opposite. I used to support the welfare state until I started working and saw how much I was paying in taxes.

Because left people runs the school system in every single country on earth(except muzzi countries). You start up indoctrinated left by defult, then some switch later.

Its not a big conspiracy or anything, its just human nature. Its not purely the curriculum, it just a certain kind of person that becomes teachers. Not all, but the average teacher is left no? Most people always remember one or two redpilled teachers they loved. They remember them because they were not the norm your used to.

>I used to support the welfare state until I started working and saw how much I was paying in taxes.
Literally every 20-something who gets their real first proper job.

Yep. And lower taxes is rightwing. Truth leads right back to the right.

I was right wing until we got rid of our left wing completely which left me choosing between far right and center right (new left). Im a leftist missile now.

Seeing my country and country deteriorate.

i used to be a liberal until sweden went to shit, most norwegians have the similar story i can imagine, sweden is just one big red pill, a warning to her neighbours.

>Leaf

>Why do people tend to go from being left wing to right wing but never the other way around?
wot
But you do.

Usually you go from right to left between 14 and 24 and reverse it from that point onwards until roughly 50 at which point it levels out or slightly reverses again.

It's basically a life experience and hormone thing.

Brain maturation also has a lot to do with it.

Note, this only applies to men. Women tend to move slower and usually have their political allegiance tied to the types of relationships they're in.

>lower taxes is rightwing

Bwahahaha

>And what was the main thing that made you more right wing?
Because I'm a wingnut!! Jeez you left yourself wide open for that. Like when you were in prison I bet.

>smarter
>intelligence
That's the limitation of language.

It's not 'intelligence' so much as 'wisdom'.

I turned more left after an edgy right wing early 20s stage. Mostly when I got with a girl who was pretty Liberal and said she'd leave me if I wasn't more open minded.

I went from the left to the right and back to the left.

I didn't swing from left to right until i got so upset with the democrats that i took a serious look at the republican party. now i hate everybody.

>And what was the main thing that made you more right wing?
Being born.

Because life is a redpilling experience.

Can't have your cake and eat it

>taxes pay for welfare
>wanting lower taxes but still keep welfare

>give poor people free condoms, free food
>literally paying the poors to fuck
IF THEY'RE OUT GETTING LAID THEY CAN FUCKING WORK AND BUY CONDOMS THEMSELVES!

REEEEEEE

For me it was getting older and buying a house and getting a job, and just looming at all the taxes I paid was redpill enough for me

>supports the welfare
>doesn't realize it's a reason they're so poor
kek

Yeah it's actually true... Leftists want higher taxes to pay for welfare, which includes education and health care. You illegal or something? Or just from Reddit? You have to go back.

If you're not a liberal before you're old enough to vote you were born without a heart. If you're not a conservative before you're old enough to rent a car you were born without a brain.

Make your mind up you easily controllable newt

one is sacrificed for the other.

Experience does not necessarily lead to wisdom.


You might say "more experienced people favor a system which favors tradition" and "more adaptable people favor a system which promotes adaptability"

I'm not saying my statement is THE TRUTH, or even that yours is. In fact, I'm sure both are incomplete.

I'm simply pointing out that one color is not inherently better, or a better choice, or a better world view than the other.

>grow up in the 90s with leftist propaganda being shat out of your TV at you every Saturday morning
>be taught leftist propaganda in school by respected elders
>exit the little safety pen of academia and enter the real world
>sink or swim, either learn how shit actually works and figure out how to use it to your advantage or double down on leftism and ruin your life

The left wing has all the great rhetoric that appeals to you when you're an idealistic teenager who hates authority and is trying to establish an identity. Then you grow up.

>supports welfare


AYO HOL up

Gibsmedat free shit mofuggah!

I'm the one exact opposite. I went from being a National Socialist edge master to a minarchist/anarcho capitalist. Of course, on the premise that I and several other like minded people could form our own private white-only communities.

Yes, it is possible to return from right or right-center to full left-wing, for example when you start to UNDERSTAND EVANGELIUM and other ...

Left is a side of Compassion and Conscience and Empathy,
Right is a side of Selfishness and Blindness.

It is sometimes hard to admit, that your opinions were selfish and bad, that's why many blind-hearted people do not return to the Compassion side...

The Left side of compassion, with full Democracy, will win one day. But surely not the zio-bolshevik lie and deception (or Soros-funded mercenaries), created only to smear the Righteous way and herd the people back to bankster cattle.

as you age your brain decays, making you dumber. thus you go from left wing (intelligent, educated, logical) to right wing (idiotic, dementia, irrational) as you age. exceptions exist, example intelligent older people (your einstein's, watson's, bohr's) but people who are born relatively stupid tend to degenerate into right-wing reactionary mouth breathers by their 30s

bait
unless you mean being okay with degenerates (lgbt bullshit) so long as they don't impose on you

why are we so much better than everyone else

I humbly disagree, I think leftism is blind and selfish. People wanting to brag about how multi culti and accepting of degeneracy they are while they let the world fall apart around them for the sole reason of not wanting to be ostracized or called racist by their leftist friends. That is selfish.

what a waste of dub dubs.

2/10 made me reply

I went form Hard Left to more Moderate with some strong Right views. But I think people go from Left to more Moderate because college educated people are more open minded and start to see that both sides have their points. Right-leaning people tend to be under-educated, Christian, and close minded. It's rare that they can move out of their box.

>Left is a side of Compassion and Conscience and Empathy

An interventionist government that chokes out its own economy and the people's economic libido. Sure they may have the best of intentions at heart, but the fact of the matter is that a welfare state does not, and never has, worked long term. You'd have to be either incredibly ignorant of history not to understand this.

the answer to this and many other questions is niggers

Or maybe the undereducated aculy see the truth because they aren't indoctrinated?

surprised you have time to reply between your 5 prayers a day ahmed

Wow. *ACTUALLY. Shitty phone.

>implying left vs right isn't a huge oversimplification

yes. nothing really makes you capable of interpreting reality than being completely ignorant.
>hamburger logic

unironically glorifying ignorance. your country is fucking doomed. i look forward to your total collapse under the weight of your own stupidity. i'll enjoy going on hamburger hunting safaris in the 2030's

If you went through the leftist indoctrination machines here, you would understand. No need to be hostile.

>acadamia
that explains it

Real world experiences, such as raising children and buying a home.

If you don't want children - stop fucking.
Filthy fucking monkeys who don't understand causation. SEX MAKES CHILDREN, WOW!

In my experience you go from left to right and from right to jaded

Because I saw lies. Even worse lies than the right tells. They try to sell some 'ideal' of humanity that doesn't exist. We're all bastards. Me, you. Everyone. Anybody who tries to tell you they exist above that level is trying to lure you into the bushes with candy to fuck you in the ass.

People go from left to right as their view of humanity changes

People on the left are viewed as spoiled, in reality its naivety. They have genuine empathy for people they generally give the benefit of the doubt to. Deadbeats, drug users, people who act out. Believing that there must be some reason, some good reason why people are the way they are.

Someone is keeping them down, some force be it economical of sociological is inhibiting so many people from being normal, happy, content, sane.

Then as we work, as we live and as we move forward in our lives, we start to see the reality of it. The flaw isn't around us, it is us. We can't expect the world to change us, we have to hold expectation to the people themselves.

Your beliefs go further and further right as you believe more and more that people can only helm themselves. The cruelty of the kindness spewed by the left enables people to stay their worst, to never live up to something more and settle for who they are now.

As we move to the far right, we have lost hope. Most people, you can't save them, they aren't worth saving. We need to remove them so the sane people can spend one day without feeling like they can't hold onto that sanity anymore.

The difference between the left and the right is your view of people. However, whichever side you sit on, the far end of either is accepting that people are helpless.

Left wing is the default. You will almost certainly be brought up as a lefty simply because all the institutions push you towards it.

If you switch to the other side and completely abandon your old beliefs, what are the odds you'd ever switch back?

If right wing views were mainstream, it would be the other way around.

It's how human social structure evolved.

Anything that isn't 'your tribe' is not and never will be your friend. So pretty much all politicians. Having somebody come up to you and put on this big show (all the while knowing how humanity works) just comes across as really, really creepy.

He's a fucking physicist. Literal STEM at its most pure. If reality makes you a rightist, he'd be a goddamn Nazi by now.

True
It sounds great raising taxes on everything until you get your first paycheck.

> accepting of degeneracy

your left has been (((hijacked))) ... That's why you rightfully hate that ...
There is ANOTHER type of left though...

And agree, that multiculturalism - destroying diversity by mixing, is not righteous...

> ... interventionist government ...

Planning is always better than free-trade chaos of Investor at-will destruction.

When government owns all stocks, the welfare can be easily allowed.

Without government interventions, currently at the West the gigantic large companies are all buying the smaller companies. Soon there will be the "One Microsoft Way, global company unlimited", owner of all bussiness worldwide... Sitting in some tax-heaven, hence cheaper than any competitor, without paying taxes, privatizing profit and socialising all more or less hidden expenses to states.

Free trade is law of jungle and only the stronger wins, becoming even more strong. Soon it will be strongest and you a complete zero.

> ...that a welfare state does not, and never has, worked long term...
> ...incredibly ignorant of history...

Actually I'm sort of a historian. But with a personal experience of real-socialism and with it's collapse:

The east collapsed due to CIA subversions and "revolution" implanting.

There was a problem with not enough freedom of speech - but that is now in Europe starting to be very similar, you just must not criticise other classes.

Before the socialism collapse, the enterprises worked and we were industrially advanced country. After collapse, all enterprises were bought by competitors and closed, destroyed and robbed. The state must take care of brown-fields, which are typical feature of capitalism, when investor pours his money somewhere else, after long-time exploiting profits...

During socialism:
- education was free and better than today
- healthcare was free
- ...

It was NOT because of high taxes, but because state owned all enterprises (as a stock owner?)

It's called becoming an asshole and zionist boomers do it

Tons of teenage libertarians grow out of it when they learn more about the world.

I was raised in a right wing environment but as I grew up I recognized that left wing policies are better overall. (For example, single payer healthcare is better for everyone and saves money.)

However, I know that there's a reason the best countries are white or asian and shitskins can ruin everything. People are more willing to help others when others are also good. (e.g. the Nordic countries) America is fully of niggers and spics so we're not as willing to help others. We've given niggers everything and all they do is fuck everything up.

>the more time I spend in academia
And there's your problem. You have no concept of those of us who are hard working - whose taxes go to fund your academia. You are a leach, and nothing more.

Maybe if you worked harder and your skills were more in demand you could be in his position.

It's called being 21 or over and growing up.

Because you either wise up as you get older or remain stupid until you the day you bless everyone with your death.

Hm. I sorta see your point. I don't entirely agree but it comes down to mincing words on a level that's just not super productive since in the broad strokes we line up.