Was giving women any type of power in western society a huge mistake?
Was giving women any type of power in western society a huge mistake?
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is this even a question?
Yes.
Yeah, it is, because Sup Forums seems to think that we should restrict women, but then at the same time, any suggestion of actually doing it makes numerous people reply with anger. So I'm trying to clarify things here.
You are a huge faggot
Yes, they have objectively fucked up everything.
long story short: yes
how would you argue that women shouldn't have political/economic power to a normie? on what basis?
their cognitive abilities are either equal or very close to equal to men's. yeah they care about different things and have different priorities politically, but you can't just disenfranchise every demographic that disagrees with you on stuff.
You need to have some kind of rational justification for disenfranchising them other than that you just don't really like the direction society has taken under their influence.
Yep. Other than fucking them, they are useless.
>Yeah, it is, because Sup Forums seems to think that we should restrict women,
we should, they evolved for millions of years as war trophies and house keepers.
letting them determine the fate of entire nations and civilisations is a huge fucking mistake.
look at their voting patterns and this becomes plainly obvious, they lack the foresight to comprehend the implications of how they vote.
they vote for gibs and free handouts and the mass importation of shitskins that will destroy all of the prosperity in western nations.
the snake spoke to eve and eve tempted adam.
If you like big and invasive government then it wasn't.
Can you imagine life today, if woman couldn't vote?
>You need to have some kind of rational justification for disenfranchising them other than that you just don't really like the direction society has taken under their influence.
a. no you dont, by their own actions there are millions of shitskins flooding into europe that will live off social handouts and produce large families of 5-10 shitskins that will rinse and repeat this process
combine that with:
b. said females prerogative to no longer procreate and rather chase wealth/education (traditionally the role of men)
and you can quickly see how the disenfranchisement of women is fast approaching, by their own doing as well...
at least under our system they could still walk down the street without a fucking garbage bag over their head, throwing acid in their face wasnt a passtime activity and they also usually got to be older than 9 before their first dicking
Infinitely better?
Yep
In the short and medium term its impossible to recover from, too
spending your days and nights shitposting on Sup Forums was a huge mistake
now look at you, you can't even get laid and you're trying to blame the women for it.
I honestly can't imagine it. So much of our society is based on degenerate ideals constructed post-suffrage, that life without it would be completely alien.
Yes. Without women we wouldn't be in the situation we are now.
>You need to have some kind of rational justification for disenfranchising them other than that you just don't really like the direction society has taken under their influence.
Why should I need some other type of justification? Shouldn't that be the only proof I need? All major religions warned us about women repeatedly.
Yeh. 2001 would have actually been like 2001: a Space oddesy
>but you can't just disenfranchise every demographic that disagrees with you on stuff.
The problem is that we evolved for women to have loyalty to themselves and their monkeysphere - because they retained reproductive vault to conquerors, females who fought to the death against invaders would be reproductively disadvantaged, and thus less fit, than those who submitted. Therefore, nature would select for females who prefer surrender and submission to resistance.
Conversely, males needed to protect their females and offspring, because the conquerors that would take their land and women would obviously not provide some of their females own in return. Therefore, the men who surrendered, fled, or otherwise betrayed the group were just as dead as those who died defending it, as far as Natural Selection is concerned.
The difference, then, is that the men who fight for their larger group have a chance of winning, and retaining their females and reproductive capabilities. Therefore, nature selects for men that posses a high level of loyalty to the group. When they became the conquerors in turn, they would reproduce with populations of females selected for submissive traits, making both those traits and male loyalty more prevalent in the population.
But because nature selected for men to be loyal to, say, a tribe larger than their immediate clan, they can also be loyal something like the Roman Empire, or the United States or even larger ideas, like 'Liberty' or 'Enlightenment'. To the instinctive subconsciousness, all three things - tribe, empire, and ideal - aren't really different, because they're all bigger than 'me and the people I know'.
Therefore, men can be loyal to a country, and thus will be much more likely to consider its best interests when voting.
Yes. Women and niggers (outsider immigrants)
I'd like to think it's be like what Teddy Roosevelt described as the "strenuous life". A bunch of indescribable pursuits accompanied by unfathomable tech.
absolutely
>he actually thinks this
It's a big shit test m8. God gave mankind women to shit test us, to force us to prove we are the most dominant.
no, but you need to keep their emotion from fucking with our media impartiality and objectivity. And it's too late.
As a Trump supporter, I believe it was a huge mistake. Women should be obedient to men and hide their faces to prevent any impure thoughts like degeneracy and feminism
ALLAHU ACKBAR
I am surprised Sup Forums doesn't like sharia law
> reverses extension of franchise to women
> conservative dress
> women subordinate to men
> wife beating permitted
> women obliged to be homemakers
Admit it Sup Forums, you just don't like muslims because they are more redpilled about women than you
You tell me
>evolving into creatures of pure energy
no thnx
Sharia is too strict. Somewhere in between is fine.
The main problem with feminism today is that it was (((manufactured))) and pushed to break down Western Civilization. If it were an organic product of progress or social necessity then it would be less cancerous.
sharia law would be great if it werent for that whole shitskin islam thing.
Western women aren't the problem. Jews in positions of power and influence are. Look at Israel--women vote there and Israel is taking constructive steps to maintain its people and protect its borders.
Blaming Western women for the fall of the West is a Jewish trick to further drive a wedge between white men and white women.
even if this were true, it would probably be easier to redpill all the women than it would be to gass millions of jews, especially since as you said, they control many positions of power and influence
the rights that western women currently enjoy are fleeting and temporary, the white race is projected to retract into a very small minority as % of the global population.
once the shitskins run the place it will revert and women will be subjugated once again, only much worse
i would argue that your fantasies of genocide are less constructive...
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Following recall of a conflict involving direct aggression and role-playing a reaction to it, compared with men, women reported their anger would dissipate less quickly and they would take longer to reconcile. Women also exhibited increased heart rate, but little change in cortisol, whereas men exhibited little change in heart rate but increased cortisol production. We interpret the results as indicating that women are less prepared than men to resolve a conflict with a same-sex peer.
>sciencedaily.com
Why do we choose the partners we do, and why do we get flak about it from our parents? A professor says it comes down to simple genetics.
>s000.tinyupload.com
>sciencedirect.com
The paper cost Professor H. S. Nyborg a long legal battle with his university, which began with his suspension under trumped up charges and ended with a full acquittal on appeal, with the university forced to reinstate him (of course they never stopped going after him and he had to do the whole charade again with another paper in 2011):
The article tested four hypothesis:
Inadequate analysis explains why researchers have been having incosistent results on gender-based differences in intelligence
The adequate method proposed will identify a male lead in general intelligence
The male lead is mostly explained by larger male brain size
Because males have a higher average intelligence and a wider distribution, there are exponentially more males at the top end of the distribution; that translates into a significant numerical superiority of highly intelligent males as opposed to highly intelligent females, explaining male dominance across society
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Study shows that women are attracted to selfish guys that are full of themselves, yet guys are not attracted to those qualities in women.
>pillse.bol.ucla.edu
UCLA research compiles women's dualistic mating strategy across all cultures
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Dominance has been suggested to honestly reflect male genetic quality.
Some researchers have suggested that the high mating value of dominant men is a result of their tendency to reaching higher socio-economical status and, therefore, gaining the resources that they may invest in their mate and offspring
There is also evidence that males of high genetic quality have a tendency for lower parental investment (Waynforth 1998). In response, a mixed mating strategy may have evolved in females: they prefer genetically superior males as short-term or extra-pair sexual partners while, at the same time, they seek males who are more willing to invest in their offspring as long-term or social partners
>rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org
Here, we develop and explore the hypothesis that the norms and institutions that compose the modern package of monogamous marriage have been favoured by cultural evolution because of their group-beneficial effects—promoting success in inter-group competition. In suppressing intrasexual competition and reducing the size of the pool of unmarried men, normative monogamy reduces crime rates, including rape, murder, assault, robbery and fraud, as well as decreasing personal abuses.
By shifting male efforts from seeking wives to paternal investment, normative monogamy increases savings, child investment and economic productivity. By increasing the relatedness within households, normative monogamy reduces intra-household conflict, leading to lower rates of child neglect, abuse, accidental death and homicide. These predictions are tested using converging lines of evidence from across the human sciences.
>nytimes.com
A study which trained female freshman college students to avoid rape SUBSTANTIALLY lowered their odds of being sexually assaulted
>ibtimes.com
The study of 170 college-age women revealed that unattractive men earned a “negative double bias” upon violating a social norm.
However, handsome men did not earn a negative bias if they broke a social norm or did something wrong.
yeah
but you can't blame them for being poisoned by the kikes, poor things can't really think for themselves
>theatlantic.com
Women engage in indirect aggression and slut-shaming, even in clinical research studies. Why?
>youtube.com
"In a series of studies, more than 1,000 adult participants rated the sexual attractiveness of hundreds of images of the opposite sex engaged in universal displays of happiness (broad smiles), pride (raised heads, puffed-up chests) and shame (lowered heads, averted eyes).
The study found that women were least attracted to smiling, happy men, preferring those who looked proud and powerful or moody and ashamed. In contrast, male participants were most sexually attracted to women who looked happy, and least attracted to women who appeared proud and confident." by Prof. Jessica Tracy of UBC’s Dept. of Psychology
>psychologytoday.com
The two groups of people who live the longest are those who stay married and those who stay single.
>sciencedaily.com
A woman would rather be TERRIFIED than disgusted by a man
>news.bbc.co.uk
Study shows that once a women 'bonds' or knows she has fully secured her mates commitment she will lose interest in sex.
But women, he said, have evolved to have a high sex drive when they are initially in a relationship in order to form a "pair bond" with their partner.
But, once this bond is sealed a woman's sexual appetite declines, he added.
The rational for why a woman's sex drive declines may be down to supply and demand. If something is in infinite supply, the perceived value would drop
>their cognitive abilities are either equal or very close to equal to men's.
o they aren't they are at least 20% lower in cognitive ability
and we don't got to explain it to no one, nature made us twice as strong so women have to do what we say
>onlinelibrary.wiley.com
A new study has shown a correlation between birth control and decreased thickness in the brain regions responsible for "responding to rewards and evaluating internal states/incoming stimuli".
Self-awareness - Evaluating internal states
Self-control - Responding to rewards
Solipsism - Inability to process incoming stimuli
Not only does the pill have an effect on the mindset of women by changing the way we reproduce (and thereby how the genders interact), but now we know it also has a physical impact on the brain.
>synergy-pr.com
>emilkirkegaard.dk
>psy.unipd.it
Women prefer taken men with attractive partners especially during the low-fertility phase of their cycle
>theguardian.com
>readability.com
...the hormone Prolactin makes people not want sex. Its essential, otherwise humans would only want sex and not even take time to eat. It spikes after sex... and it rises after relationships get older. At 1 year, then at 3 years it rises again. (Sounds like the typical stages of a relationship doesn't it?) It also rises more in women than in men, and although they cant put humans in cages, they found that monkeys they tested only had high prolactin levels after sex or... when they were brought in and put into cages, and they realized they were trapped. To me it explains why so many women have low libidos and then when getting out of a marriage, suddenly turn into fireballs of sexual desire: they aren't trapped. Prolactin is apparently what pushes us to want new partners.
nah mang, they are good with children and cooking, and they shoudl support us in our roles
>spring.org.uk
Study of 3,000+ finds men and women process emotions differently and this affects what they remember
Women rate emotional images as more stimulating and are more likely to remember them than men, a new study finds.
While strong emotions tend to boost memory for both men and women, this neuroimaging study may help explain why women often outperform men on memory tests.
The results come from a very large study of 3,398 people who took part in four different trials.
Both men and women were asked to look at a series of pictures, some of which were emotionally arousing and others which were neutral.
They were also tested on their memory for the pictures.
The results, published in the Journal of Neuroscience, showed that women found the emotional pictures — and especially the negative pictures — more stimulating than the men (Spalek et al., 2015).
>onlinelibrary.wiley.com
Using nationally representative data from the 1995 National Survey of Family Growth, I estimate the association between intimate premarital relationships (premarital sex and premarital cohabitation) and subsequent marital dissolution. I extend previous research by considering relationship histories pertaining to both premarital sex and premarital cohabitation. I find that premarital sex or premarital cohabitation that is limited to a woman's husband is not associated with an elevated risk of marital disruption. However, women who have more than one intimate premarital relationship have an increased risk of marital dissolution. These results suggest that neither premarital sex nor premarital cohabitation by itself indicate either preexisting characteristics or subsequent relationship environments that weaken marriages. Indeed, the findings are consistent with the notion that premarital sex and cohabitation limited to one's future spouse has become part of the normal courtship process for marriage.
>they vote for gibs and free handouts and the mass importation of shitskins that will destroy all of the prosperity in western nations.
yep, but is it because that is what the really want, or just that they are more easily fooled by the kike propoganda?
>web.missouri.edu
Ahem
>Only women are picky in regards to both short & long term relationships, but men are ONLY picky in regards to long term relationships
>Women just sit back and pick
>Men have to compete
>Everything is based on reproductive potential >The individual's ability to invest in the growth, development, and later social and reproductive competencies of offspring and/or the potential genetic benefits a mate would confer on offspring
>Despite what the kike media says, women try to avoid short term relationships and casual sex unless the man is alpha
>Most westerners ignore this shit
>Women want men who are considered successful within their given culture
>Culturally successful men's children have better psychological and physical health, also a longer life.
>Women prefer husbands who are better educated and earn more money than they do.
>When women are forced to make trade-offs, a prospective marriage partner’s cultural success is rated as a necessity and other characteristics as a luxury.
>Hero in romance novels is always an older, handsome, socially dominant, and wealthy man who ultimately marries the heroine despite having his pick of dozens
>Women who marry older and better educated men have more children, are less likely to get divorced, and report higher levels of marital satisfaction than women who married younger and/or less educated men.
>Culturally successful men are often arrogant, self-serving, and better able to pursue their preferred reproductive interests than are other men. These preferences often involve pursuing multiple mating partners rather than investing in a single woman and her children.
pretty much
they have no power but what we give them
They have a different kind of brain with some severe limitations.
They have major problems with abstraction and logic. They can follow very complicated instructions and rote patterns, but if they actually have to reason, they're mostly blind.
>Women prefer men who are physically strong and make them feel physically protected.
>Intimacy and emotional satisfaction from partner is more of a luxury than a necessity for women.
Continued
>Women rate a kind, understanding and intelligent husband higher than a purely culturally successful one with none of these traits.
>Women prefer taller than average athletic symmetric men with 0,9 waist-to-hip ratio and shoulders wider than hips.
>facial features that women like: large eyes, large smile, prominent cheek bones and chin.
>Asymmetric men are less physically active, manifest more symptoms of depression and anxiety, and report more minor physical problems (e.g., colds, headaches). They also have a lower IQ, higher basal metabolic rate and fewer sex partners.
>Handsome husbands not only give beautiful, but also healthier children.
>Women's ratings of the physical attractiveness of men are moderated by the ratings of the women’s peers, especially if the peer ratings are negative.
>Women’s ratings of the physical attractiveness of men are influenced by the men’s perceived social dominance and by the age of the women’s fathers when they were children.
>Women's preference for physical attractive men rises around the time of ovulation.
>Men are deceived by their partners into raising the children of another man, that is, cuckolded, about 10% of the time.
>Nonpaternity rates are higher than 20% in low socioeconomic settings.
>Women are attracted by the smell of pheromones around the time of ovulation.
>Women prefer extra-pair partners with whom they have a level of emotional intimacy as contrasted with a stranger.
>Men like variety.
>Men benefit from sex, women pay.
>Women do STR to achiece a LTR or to cheat their husband.
>Men masturbate more often.
>Women strongly endorse the double-standard that pre-marital sex is less acceptable for women than men and feel guilt and anxiety after sex.
>Men fantasize more about sex and group sex.
>Women fantasize about personal and emotional characteristics of their partners.
>Men focus their fantasy on physical characteristics.
>Almost only men use prostitutes and that's why they have more sex partners than women.
>Men value the intelligence, kindness, understanding, personality, friendliness and sense of humor of their partner just as highly or even more than physical attractiveness.
>Men, especially socially dominant ones, are more jealous.
>Infidelity (or the suspection of it) and desertion are common motives for a man killing his wife, seminal study of homicides indicate.
>Men like youth, symmetry, low bmi, 0,7 waist-to-hip ratio (cues of fertility).
>Women’s fertility is low in the teen years, peaks at about age 25, and then gradually declines to near zero by age 45.
>The most attractive dating partner for teenage males is a woman about 5 years older than themselves, that is, a woman with higher fertility than females of the same age or younger than these adolescent males.
>Ovulating women smell sexier.
>Oversupply of women results in liberal sexual mores, high divorce rates, out of marriage births, single mothers, increase in women’s participation in the workforce, and lower levels of paternal investment.
>Oversupply of men results in increase in the level of commitment of men to marriage, declining divorce rates and greater levels of paternal investment.
>In societies in which polygyny is not constrained, culturally successful men (about 10-15% of men) will typically marry several women, which results in male-to-male aggression and many men with no children.
>Men, but not women who engage in serial monogamy get more children than their married peers.
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Men are over represented in every type of fetish and perversion except masochism
>people.fas.harvard.edu
Allowing women to vote INHERENTLY increases the size and scope of government
>medicaldaily.com
Wide hipped chicks are whores
>gpi.sagepub.com
>gpi.sagepub.com
Women LITERALLY hate their own nations and actively seek their destruction with immigration
dailymail.co.uk
Women really DO love bad boys: Females are more likely to lust after people with criminal records than males, study finds
way to ruin all discussion with spam autistic faggot
>eurekalert.org
Women are more likely to be sexually fluid than men because evolution historically required them to have sex with co-wives in polygynous marriages
>bloomberg.com
Shocking, look who marries whoo
>tandfonline.com
Basically, female rape victims often go on to enjoy sexual relationships with their rapists
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Men dream of many things
Pounding a teenager, getting seduced by a MILF, footjobs, autistic girls, pegging, brazilian scat orgies, grannies, BBW, choking themselves while dressed as batman, etc.
What do women like?
Getting raped
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
well why not let children vote? same kind of deal. women are messed up. they can't make the right decisions. but men aren't perfect either.
There's a BIOLOGICAL reason cucks will defend women at all costs
>psycnet.apa.org
Women have evolved to seek an older mate
>pss.sagepub.com
Nobody wants to fuck niggers
>sciencedirect.com
Women love facial scars when they're fertile
>unz.com
Women will follow any totalitarian fanatic regime with even more savagery than men
>nymag.com
European queens waged more wars than kangz
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Women with high self esteem have the most frequent an intense rape fantasies on average
>news.utexas.edu
Men’s and women’s ideas of the perfect mate differ significantly due to evolutionary pressures
>journals.plos.org
Liberals are biologically cucked and a danger to us all
journals.plos.org
Sexist men are literally winners on average
For you
women are halfway between children and adults
Don't cut yourself on that edge.
why da cute bambi head be explodi?
>you just don't like muslims because they are more redpilled about women than you
>allow them to work and to keep their earning
>HAVE to take care of them
>polygamy
Yeah, sorry, but no.
Hahahahah fuckin chicks man
Did... did it die?
spbp
Mindblowing
My reply was succinct and serious.
Memes aside. If you don't like women voting, not only are you in a minority, you are probably being selfish thinking your interest supercede those of female citizens in which case, it was a mistake but only for you.
yes
christian polygamy is the only thing that will save the world from turning muslim
If they could've done it 50 years later then I believe that everybody would be better off
It's a degenerate shitskin religion. Simple as that.
You're selfish for thinking children can't vote then
So's christianity
I mean get real man, you worship a brown jew
Your reply was also incredibly edgy.
It's a discussion that needs to be had. Ever since women have basically become more powerful than men in western civilization, we have taken a noticeable tumble. And any suggestions I make are hypothetical anyway - not that I've made many in this thread to begin with. I am very aware that most people worship women, and they have no problem with women never being held accountable for their actions, and they have no problem with men being forced to adhere to our gender roles and protect women while women run around doing whatever they want and still enjoying all the benefits of a male population that serves them. Most people approve of all that stuff, I don't. I understand.
are you a female? or new to pol? I would have thought all of this is 101 pol material
I've been on Sup Forums on and off for over 2 years now. But I have noticed that there is a LOT of pro-female sympathy on here. So I wanted to clear things up, like I told you before.
Ain't no grave gonna hold the American Public back from voting in our next President Donald J. Trump. Watch epic video.
m.youtube.com
>I've been on Sup Forums on and off for over 2 years now. But I have noticed that there is a LOT of pro-female sympathy on here.
We are approaching US elections, that means this site is being brigaded and shilled MUCH more than usual, this cycle will be particularly bad with all the paid hillbots
after the elections there will be a surge of rejoice or lamentation, followed by a return to the norm
also understand that any surge in bluepills will invariably result in an increase of pedestalizing
We should allow children to vote though. I'm sick of rampant childism in today's society; children are people too you know
what is the sauce for this
Giving them power wasn't the problem.
It was giving them power while shielding them from any accountability that is the problem.
look at leaf, finally having a good post
This
Whenever redditors come here in waves it ALWAYS gets like this
They don't like one demographic and start shilling for others
Real life.
hahahaha epic bro, upboated! xD
Logic and discipline > emotion
Therefore men > women
Easy bruh
humans evolved in hunter-gatherer societies, largely egalitarian. men and women contributed the same amount to their family.
women
>gathered 90% of food (plants, small mammals, etc.)
>took care of camp and children while men hunted
men
>hunted 10% of food
>scouting/defense
>Children were raised by everyone, not just the mothers. Still primarily responsibility of women
>later societies grew to value men more when warfare became more important.
It's not women that are the problem here. (and do try to remember that women usually follow the example of men. they're voting/acting this way because men influenced them to)
It's who it always has been; jews. Without jews to subvert white men and women we wouldn't be in this mess. Jews are an terrifying in that some of them blend in so well with whites. Jewish men lead whites astray by acting like they're of the same tribe. To fix society we need to 1. get rid of jews, 2. give women more power over domestic/social issues, 3. give men more power over foreign/security issues.
Fuck yeah, they are idiots ruled by emotions.
its great how leftists managed to be more anti-science than religious ever were
we live in a society where women aren't restricted, but at the same time are free of responsibility for their actions. This is disastrous. It's like letting a child baby sit itself. You come home and what do you find? The kid ends up staying up til midnight, eating icecream sandwhiches and has shit all over the floor for no discernible reason.
*tips fedora*
>greentexting URL
don't do that in the future
women will always be the problem because no matter it be the jews or some other group, women are too easy to trick and mislead. It's their nature to be submissive and subservient in order to secure resources for themselves and their offspring, and that's really dangerous when applied to a setting bigger than a small village.
>1. get rid of jews
Good
>2. give women more power over domestic/social issues
Get the fuck out of here, cuck
Women HAVE NO BUSINESS IN POLITICS
For fucksake, even the Greco-Romans knew this
Letting emotional creatures with no sense of loyalty to anyone aside from their immediate family and friends is Sweden waiting to happen
See
In the military chicks are always switching sides during drills because their friends are on the opposing side, or because some CUUUUTE guy is
>Women rate emotional images as more stimulating and are more likely to remember them than men, a new study finds.
Meaning women are more susceptible to the machinations of a demagogue or personality cult. And we see this in the success of people like Obama or... in the future, Hillary.
"Lets make history" is an actual talking point for women. "its her turn" is a legitimate reason to vote for hillary for women.
>implying he's wrong
If you're looking for hard data, women's IQ is generally about 4 points lower that of a man's.
If you're looking for softer data, women's voting patterns (more liberalism / socialism) speaks volumes. They're good at playing mother to a household but not a nation.
Exactly this
Fundies are always scary, but a woman indoctrinated into a cult is horrifying
Remember the Jesus warrior?
youtube.com
Let's all be grateful that their violent impulses are weaker, or else we'd have green haired suicide bombers and fatties cannibalizing skinny girls for equality
During crazed regimes women were the most mindless brutes as far as support for "glorious leader" went, especially those of childbearing age
A woman always attaches herself to a man: in youth her lover, in old age her priest
We objectively live in a better, more secure time than we ever have. Sup Forums can be/is incredibly reactionary.
The professor who screamed about "needing muscle ova here" during the University of Missouri protests comes to mind
Same with the protestant witch trials
I'm looking for hard data on the following claims
>They have major problems with abstraction and logic.
>if they actually have to reason, they're mostly blind.
IQ is required for those things, fampai. As women's IQ is generally lower, it follows that they are generally worse at these things.