Socialist policies like free universal healthcare or free/ paid university dont work

socialist policies like free universal healthcare or free/ paid university dont work.

What i think might be a good investment though, is a government subsidy for anyone that is interested in STEM degrees, maybe with exception of medicine.

>Source: Danish Government Data

>socialist policies like free universal healthcare or free/ paid university dont work.

You cant use a debt clock as evidence for that when the US is itself trillions of dollars in debt and doesn't have those policies.

I hate socialism as much as the next guy, but Denmarks debt problem is not fully due to leftist economic services. It is their insistence on letting in immigrants who do not work. Who commit crime and burden the jail system, etc.

America you've already proven to everyone that debt doesn't mean a damn thing

Sharpen up, Chihiro. What do you think sustains said immigrants? What do you think allures them to Denmark in the first place?

What about USA's $19 trillion national debt? What's your excuse?

123 billion debt isn't that much tho
Netherlands is almost 500 billion, but our economy is doing fine

Denmark is still bae, thoe

>123 billion dollars in debt

It's not too bad, it's not too late to turn around although welfare does not help much.

> What's your excuse?

We also have a massive welfare state (which is possibly larger) and we also have massive amounts of spending on the military along with Social Security programs which we can never actually pay off (although I suppose it counts as welfare)

The biggest reason for our debt is Medicare, medicaid, social security and defense spending.

You guys had commercially produced CP.

How do you explain that?

Lol how much of that is from health/education and how much is from spending on stuff to prop up the economy?

We're heading the same way, we've spent hundreds of billions on building shit so the economy doesn't collapse.

Pretty much every country is doing it afaik.

It's called economic can kicking. Nigger.

Hey, OP, do you know which countries have the smallest amount of debt? The countries that are so dirt-poor that hardly any country is willing to lend money to.

>although I suppose it counts as welfare

How is Social Security not welfare?

>massive amounts of spending on the military

Which is the only reason countries like Denmark can remain solvent, because they don't have to pay for their own defense.

Free university or subsidised university education does work - and is even necessary - so long as it's set at the correct levels.

The problem we have now is that an entire market has been set up for education and we tell absolutely fucking everyone, no matter how dumb, that they need to go to uni to be worth anything or to get a job.

Back in the 70s the system fucking worked because only 20% of people went to university. Shit like 'Gender Studies' didn't exist anywhere outside of specific university campuses, reflecting the lack of need for degrees on subjects such as that. Now look at how fucked everything is - they're giving students credits for going to the gym, for fuck's sake, all so they can keep the cash rolling in.

Last I heard, we had a surplus of many billions. Inc. 500 billion DKK in foreign valuta

We've just spent hundred of billions? On what? Where?

It doesn't matter how much debt a country has. FIAT currency is specifically designed to thrive with debt.

Not a valid argument, Yank. Please go back to worshipping Trump or something.

Denmark is doing relatively fine tho

source: Eurostat via Google

>How is Social Security not welfare

It is, but some people just like to make a line in the sand between traditional welfare programs and certain Social Security programs.

>Which is the only reason countries like Denmark can remain solvent, because they don't have to pay for their own defense.

I suppose that's true, but that's not good news either. We really shouldn't be trying to 'help' other countries especially when it's either a case of them reaping the benefits while we reap shit or a cause of us just making things worse.

If it kept children from being raped, it did more good than harm. Japan has managed to keep most of their pedoes in check by allowing loli stuff

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idiot

We have it so much better here, so just shut up.

Hyperinflation would beg to differ.

Was/is child abuse a big problem in Denmark?

The US has 19 trillion dollars in debt, more than double than the second place UK. Non socialist policy don't work because of the US debt. See how this is fucking stupid? Please just be shit posting.

Not a bigger problem than anywhere else, but damage was still minimized.

Unethical as it might have been, sacrificing a few to save the many might in some situations be the right thing to do.

See

The US has been socialist for the past 80 years. We're just more on the cdu side, so people still pretend it's capitalism because we have minor free market elements.

Debt to GDP is what matters, and the US GDP is bigger than that of the entire pre-Brexit EU combined. Until Obongo came in, our debt as a percentage of GDP was simmilar to that of Germany.

But remember, it's the U.S. taxpayer who pays for German national defense.

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>free/subsidized university works
>point out the problem is too much participation
>too much participation in a FREE system

you pretty much explained why it doesn't work without realizing it. If people want to go to college they can save money and work for it. It should take, at worst, 4 years of saving if even that. Stop fucking up economies for feelz.

>everything bad can be attributed to socialism
>everything good can be attributed to capitalism
>no arguments required
every libtard post in the history of Sup Forums

You took the bait user, you are distracted from the real issue.
Welfare state enables NEETs and parasites that take money and return nothing. Welfare must be abolished entirely. Even disabled people can still do some sort of work.

But free medicine and education are great.
Taking care of your citizens is like fixing your car or feeding your horse.
If you want your horse to work you feed it.

If you educate your citizen to be a scientist/engineer they are going to produce GDP and pay taxes afor the rest of their life and produce a lot more than it costed to educate them.

>socialism is the antithesis to capitalism
>socialism is an economic system

good memes, memehead

like what the fuck are you even trying to say

>Says the most uneducated country
>the country with highest death due to unavalable medicine.

You live in the only country where education is considered luxury and people actually die because they can't pay for the pills.
It doesn' happen anywhere else in the world.
Do you really thing that you're doing everything right?

Maybe educationg is not your real enemy?
Maybe welfare is?

All depends on who owes whom and if the payments are being made. If the US were to default it would definitely matter.

>How is social security not welfare

Because it's a ponzi scheme. It would be more accurate to label it fraud than welfare.

Why is lending all this money to these countries?

It can work, but when you have a large Muslim population that doesn't want to work, well....

>It can work, but when you have a large Muslim population that doesn't want to work, well....
Who doesn't work - doesn't eat.

Give them a fishing rod but not the fish.
Allow people to study and work.
But don't give them shit if they don't work.

Another STEM autist who thinks he knows how the world works.

It does but not when you admit tons of gibsmedats and have a strong work ethic in your culture. You simply can't have both

Gibsmedats is your problem.

Even mudslimes can take some job like cleaning the streets and making doner kebabs.

>science
>technology
>engineering
>mathematics
>not knowing everything that is worth knowing

Ok, educate me, share some of your endless liberal arts degree wisdom.

>exception of medicine
Why mate?

>large muslim population that doesn't want to work
do you have a job m8? you're on NEETchan

>>>"""SOCIALIST"""

We dont need more blacks or hispanics on 3.0s getting into top medical schools. The jews, whites and asians have enough trouble as it is. My surgeon/MD should be the best of his class.

Medical education should be cheap or free to decrease the price of medical services.

In Murrika doctors are paid way too much.
>medicine is hard to get into
>few doctors
>they can inflate the price up o the sky

You can establish contract system
>get education for free
>you will have to work in the government hospital for at leat three years and can't leave.

>Money runs world
>Claims understand how world works
>No economis degree

GTFO you retard soviet fuck

Exactly it's like OP is shilling for big pharm

>possibly lager welfare state
Don't make me lmao

Economics is mathematics simplified for the dumb.

Also physics runs the world.
Without physics the atoms would disappear.

We control the amount of doctors carefully.

Doctors are paid way too much, but good luck reducing that. Most overpaid doctors are surgeons and private practice docs. Regular hospital docs who aren't a part of a private practice usually burn out due to low pay and lots of fucking work.

Doctors are not the problem of inflated costs, Medicare and insurance schemes are the problem. When the government subsidizes things, the price inflates. If things like MRIs were subject to market forces the prices would decrease drastically.

We also have the highest standard of medical care in the world. Controlling for car accidents and murders (ie, non-health related deaths), Americans live longer than any other people on the planet, despite our shitty eating and exercise habits.

Focus on your own country before you focus on ours. Russia is *****literally***** a tribal nation dominated by Oligarchs and ex-KGB agents.

Our debt is still healthy though
Belgium is JUST tier

>Convert to DICK

>some country is in a lot of debt because of government programs that help the people

>USA is in 35 times more debt and doesn't offer programs even remotely similar. We even bail out companies who ruin our own economy

Wtf I hate socialism now!

>What i think might be a good investment though, is a government subsidy for anyone that is interested in STEM degrees, maybe with exception of medicine.
>study subsidies isn't also a socialist policy

america, come on man

>Americans live longer than any other people on the planet,
Picrelated.
You live shorter than Cubans an Chile.

>Focus on your own country before you focus on ours
Oh we do.
If you would stop trying to ruin our sphere of influence that would be a lot easier.

>dominated by Oligarchs and ex-KGB agents.
Says nation dominated by Bankers and globalists.

I can't argue about the bankers, but control for car accidents and murders, then look at how long we live.

But you also lead by a massive margin in deaths from not being able to pay for medicine.

If you get sick and happen to be broke you're fucked.
Putin wouldn't leave you to die like that.

>Denmark
>$123 billion in debt
>United Cucks of America
>$20+ trillion in debt
>"it doesn't work guise!"
lel, false dichotomy

Social Security is in a 3 trillion dollar surplus...

what are you talking about?

The US has the largest debt of any country on earth and it's a higher percentage of your GDP than Denmark's debt. Also Norway has loads of socialist policies and they have zero debt and the largest sovereign wealth fund of any country on earth. Also every year they spend about 15% less than they collect in taxes.

>the entire debt of the country of denmark is equivalent to what california spent on illegals the last 7 years
WAKE ME UP

>Putin wouldn't leave you to die like that.
Why do Russians have a lower life expectancy than Americans?

>inb4 Vodka

Say, nigger, can you build something with all your "knowledge"? Can you create CPU and ship it? Can you help people somehow?

protip: no, you are useful technonigger

Just stop affirmative actions.
We have free med school here, but there is a contest with 150 places for around 1500 students.
Works pretty well.

Kek, Russians can actually convince Amerifats that science spending is stupid with pictures like this.

White women

>don't work
Has it been tried? (no)

>Can you create CPU and ship it?
Who the fuck do you thing is making CPUs?
Sociologists or economists?
Russia has it's own computers to protect it's defences from silicon poisoning.
Only a handful of nations in the world can make an x86 chip and Russia is one of them.

Also Russia is one of three nations that can make a jetfighter. I personally apply my knowledge shipping RD-33 to chinks for their own Fighters because they can't make their own.

Putin doesn't really care about anything except feeding his addiction for more power. If he cared about Russia he would decentralize power, punish the oligarchs, open up the markets, purge corrupt officials and step aside. Instead he simply rewards anybody who sucks his balls, and tries to feed his ever growing addiction. I wouldn't be surprised if he goes after estonia, latvia and belarus in the next 20 years. People like him are just addicts. They can't give it up. They need more in order to satisfy their addiction. It's why we have term limits in the first place.

Oh noes, what would they do without muh science? Where else would they study females, diversity and how to be a technonigger? What would they do for 16 years of their lives without public edukiketion?

Imagine how much more if would be if we did you fucktard

> Who the fuck do you thing is making CPUs?
> i.e. no I cant, i`m useful technonigger after all
That`s what I thought.

We're primarily in debt to ourselves which is why nobody gives a shit.

>punish the oligarchs
>It's easy we kill the batman
Oligarchs will punish him themselves if they doubt his loyalty.

Russian airforce #1 can crash, or he himself might misteriously drink polonium or whatever.

Universal healthcare is cheaper than private healthcare dumbfuck

So you're saying it's not Techno Master Race who is making CPU?

Who is then? Liberal arts faggots with burgerflipping degree make CPUs now?

>Copenhagen women
Fixed that for you my friend no need to thank me

Well you may be right. Both of our countries need a solution to the oligarchy problem. You tried one out in 1917 but simply created another oligarchy. There has to be another way, but I look back on all past civilizations and always see a 1%-14%-85% breakdown of the country no matter what. Perhaps oligarchy is the only way until everything is automated.

.. have you seen your debt, America? 10 years of war will do the same thing.

The US is the size of Europe. What's the debt of Europe combined?

Isnt Denmark killing it in standard of living and general happiness of citizens?
Debt doesbt mean shit if you can borrow cheap... Govt debt is not equivalent to personal debt or debt on a business. Some govt debt is indeed healthy.

Also, market socialism is the only way forward for western countries. Otherwise this is the start of a long economic stagnation, if they're lucky. Socialized capital, nimble government intervention and cooperatives are the only things that will lead to 2tgrowth if implimented on a macro level.

>Oh noes, what would they do without muh science?
Not build Manpads that kill Russians in Syria

>Where else would they study females, diversity and how to be a technonigger?
I think most people who study this have studied it watching TV

>What would they do for 16 years of their lives without public edukiketion?
Probably spell education similar to the way you just did

rulers on drugs, and some free love ideals imported from the USA. Thankfully it was just a phase.

>wanting the US government in charge of you healthcare

wew lad

>le STEM meme

The only reason it doesn't is because we at the largest economy on earth and one of the few true capitalist societies
Imagine anyone else trying what we have kek

Exactly what science they need to defund to not be able to build manpads?

> I think most people who study this have studied it watching TV
And everybody other is receiving useful knowledge, yeah.

> Probably spell education similar to the way you just did
Yes, word creation is not allowed - or newspeak wont work.

oh come on Denmark, only 123 billion? Get on the USA's level of 20 Trillion+

That number is wrong, it is around 82 billion kr, which is around 14 billion USD

>he thinks the Fed central bank is "ourselves"

American education everyone