Why aren't you a Libertarian Socialist Sup Forums?

Why aren't you a Libertarian Socialist Sup Forums?

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Because it's fucking retarded.

Oxymoron

Hi Cameron

You can't make me

Explain Shlomo

Wrong, the term "libertarian" was invented by a French anarchist/communist

Huh?

Because I don't have Down syndrome.

Sure and it's still an oxymoron.

I have some bad news for you

But user, I am a libertarian socialist.

This guy is a fucking retard.

Because it's impossible. Socialism and libertarianism are diametrically opposed. Drop dead kike shill.

Because I'm not mentally challenged.

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I have the normal number of somatic chromosomes.

>Libertarian Socialist

There is no such thing. You cannot be a libertarian and a socialist it is incompatible

>individual freedom and independence
>government strictly controlling everything

As a TRUE libertarian, may I reauest that you kindly register yourself as an organ donor, walk into a hospital, and suck start a shotgun?

>This guy is a fucking retard.
Pretty much sums up the extend to which socialists are capable of having an argument.

Because I like having a boss and a market, and I do not want to starve to death.

t. Brain dead politically illiterate nog

>tfw libertarian nationalist socialist
Pay taxes but only so the people you love can have healthcare , education and other basic human rights.
Do what you want but don't be a degenerate (freedom of speech but you can't wear a rainbow thong and have a dick on your head with kids around)
Your people first, then the rest of the world
Why this isn't the supreme idealogy of the ruling classes I have no fucking idea.

Autism

All those libertarian/X ideologies will work only with a community the size of a town, and socialism specifically ruins countries forever.
Athoritherianism is the natural and healthy way of building a society, and no amount of whining about legalization and roads will change the fact that any and all anarchist or libertarian societies will simply become authoritarian again, or just collapse culturally.
If people were meant to be free, and could function healthily with complete freedom, no states would have formed in the first place.

That's literally what you did though. You never tried to argue anything. Why would I waste my time trying to debate you when your posts are:

>Oxymoron

>Sure and it's still an oxymoron.

I'd like to be, considering I'm a type one diabetic and I'll likely be screwed by the medical industry and big pharma until my premature death.

But I feel my most realistic chance of improving my outcomes is a reality where medicine is competitive.

I like to look at the veterinary field as a good example. My brother's dog had spinal surgery for just under $4,000, and has gone 5 years now with full mobility.

I'd expect a bill near 100 times that for a human. I've racked up bills twice that for food poisoning.

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See

You cringy autist

t. 14 year old with no talent or worth who thinks knowing identity politics makes him smart.

kek

Who says I'm not?

>Free countries fall apart
t. Sup Forumsack

You know why it's an oxymoron, that's why I didn't include clarification in my argument. All you really did is sling a pathetic "insult" at me, it really speaks volumes about your intelligence.

It's true, though many things can ruin a nation, naturally.
And the pic you have posted is a prime example of socialism getting out of control.

>he doesn't think that libertarian socialism is an oxymoron

take a look at this image

>mutualist

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>libertarian
>socialism
>everyone have right to do what they BUT you must pay taxes for the poor
It's retarded as fuck.alsofpbp

I thought I was a libertarian socialist in high school. Then I stopped being an edgy teen and realized that libertarian socialist doesn't even mean anything and I was basing my beliefs on shit that was fed to me by Rage Against the Machine.

>You know why it's an oxymoron,
Not really. If markets still price goods naturally in regards to scarcity, while profit is mutually enjoyed directly by labor, you have a libertarian socialist economy. There's' no reason why that can't work, and in the case of individual enterprises such as credit unions and growers' cooperatives, we have examples that it is successful.

Ill take the bait. In what way are they compatible? Either state force enforces your collective and private property management as socialism dictates, or it doesn't as libertarianism dictates, and socialism dissolves.

>authoritarianism
>state socialism
Pick two. But consider your choice carefully.

You will need to either enforce socialism, in which case you're not libertarian, or to not enforce it, in which case nobody will listen to your retarded ideas and will get back to plain capitalism.
The state does not have to redistribute or even have a welfare program in order to be authoritarian. Moron.

>price
Kek, you faggots want a society with no currency. Catalonia was a complete failure.

>The state does not have to redistribute or even have a welfare program in order to be authoritarian. Moron.
A state that doesn't take your property but is authoritarian. How does that work, exactly? Do what we say or we'll take nothing from you!

Why Mutualism and not socialist anarchism, or individualist anarchism?

>You will need to either enforce socialism
No. There's no enforcement. There are simply no legal advantages granted to redistributive capitalist schemes. No preferential capital gains or corporate tax rates. Income taxed at the same rate, or the same set of graduated rates by the individual recipients. Abolition of corporate liability so that people are held accountable directly for their own economic decisions.

because Sup Forumsacks are antisocial and can't talk to a person irl without loosing their shit

There's been enough authoritarian states that left the market and private ownership relatively alone, the same cant really be said about socialist countries.

There has to be some unit of accounting, I don't advocate the abolition of currency.

>Wrong, the term "libertarian" was invented by a French anarchist/communist
Okay, if it's some different kind of libertarianism why are you using the gadsden snake?

>There's been enough authoritarian states that left the market and private ownership relatively alone, the same cant really be said about socialist countries.
Does arresting people for opinions they express to others count as non-interference in a market? It sounds like a profound interruption of natural transaction to me. I think what you're referring to is authoritarian states that permit and promote cronyism, and of course they all do that. left and right alike. Whether you're the son of a Generalissimo or the son of a Cadre, you're going to do well in an authoritarian state regardless of whether you offer the market great value or none at all.

I'm pretty anti social and hate normies too m8

Maybe you dont, but a large share of your fellow autists do.

Private ownership and socialism are mutually exclusive, you cant have both without being authoritarian. People will want to own the means of production privately, without this drive technology will stagnate and trying to take it away from them breaks the idea of a free society.

>People will want to own the means of production privately, without this drive technology will stagnate and trying to take it away from them breaks the idea of a free society.
They will own the means of production privately. The metal stamper will own the press, the trucker will own the truck. The burger flipper will own the spatula and grill.

autistic ideology, like ancaps

Again, there have been right wing authoritarian countries that arrested almost no people for the wrong opinion, meanwhile there have been a lot of socialist countries that have killed or arrested people for owning to much or not giving it up to the liking of their government.

The right can be as bad as the left, but it's not a necessity, left-wing authoritarianism and even anarchism as seen in Catalonia ended up using force against its populace.

>liking nazis

you're a down syndrom freak

thats you.

I'm not an impracticle commie, nor any kind of commie. Go to a country with a Marxist_lenninst party in power, moving there would prove that you actually believe this stuff. You also have to do this in droves, like the people who flee communist countries.

Not really, as socialism is the redistribution of the means of production to the common people, not the individual. Taking away the truck from the truck company and giving it to a trucker is authoritarian and it will stagnate an economy.

>shared profits = socialism

Left libertarianism trys to have liberty without personal responsibility. Fucking retarted

Also theology is week son

>implying Marxist Leninists didn't purge anarchists first

tankies are cunts

Congratulations, you managed to take the 2 most retarded, immature and insufferable political positions, and turn them into a single giant faggy joke.
At least you save us all a bit of time by allowing us all to laugh in your face before you start explaining yourself, unlike other types of libertarians.

Right-libertarianism, which developed in USA, is a whole different concept and emphasizes completely different things in contrast to the original libertarianism coined first by Proudhon. I grew up from the latter though. Neither of these is practical.

Plese tell me this is a meme. Please tell me no one is actually this poliitically and mentally stunted.

>muh welfare
>socially liberal
>must mean im libertarrian socialist

Youre a progressive.

No, I understand the difference between liberalism and socialism, unlike the burgerclaps

It exists. It's promotes by lefties who think freedom means do whatever you want and try to combine it with socialism as give me whatever I want. They'll say they are libertarians, but in the se breath say hate speech isn't allowed since it violates the NAP.

>Libertarian socialism
How the fuck does that even work if some of the principles in socialism remove basic rights such as private property, free travel and others?

>Plese tell me this is a meme. Please tell me no one is actually this poliitically and mentally stunted.

t. retarded american with no understanding of history or politics whatsoever

Because Mutualism is THE comfiest ideology.

They told you they intended to remove the lumpen proletariat, guess who that includes? Why do you bitch about anarchist Spain though? You were not there, nothing happened to you, are you spooked?

"It is not freedom when we say to people that everything is permitted. That is slavery. To improve one must have difficulties. Let’s take an example. We have a little tree. We take care of it. We place a stake and tie it with a rope. Naturally we don’t tie it with wire because that way we would injure it. With their method they would not constrain the tree; and it doesn’t develop properly otherwise. And look at the child. We limit his freedom from the beginning. When he is first conceived the poor thing is limited in his mother’s womb and remains there nine whole months. Later he is born and immediately they swaddle him in a blanket, they tie him up, as soon as he begins to grow they set a railing, etc. All of this is necessary for him to grow. It appears to take away freedom, but without these protective measures the child will die in the first moment. Freedom is good when the person can use it appropriately. Otherwise it is a disaster.”

Because the two are antithetical to each other
Same reason why I'm not a Mexican intellectual

>Libertarian Socialist
HOLY OXYMORON BATMAN

because I hate people. they tend to be worthless wastes of space and resources. enjoy your love fest, but I won't be attending.

>Libertarian Socialist
Communist scum like you need to be physically removed.
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I'm surprised you are not a leaf

>They told you they intended to remove the lumpen proletariat, guess who that includes

Well yeah that is a big point of divergence between anarchists and Marxian communists, although some Maoists praise the lumpenproletariat.

As for anarchist Spain it was fucked up by Stalinists on one side and Francoists on the other, didnt have much of a chance really.

>Anyone who makes a concise argument is autistic
You should probably go outside more often

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Fuck off with this Libertarian crap. It's literally being cucked to big business.

America is right wing Socialist
>most welfare goes to whites
>white people that work make more money
>most abortions are on minorities to stop them from superseding the white population
>Minorities on welfare don't get as much as whites and the ones that work don't have gainful employment
>successful minorities are a ploy to give off the illusion of equality when in reality whites > everyone else.
>Social Security keeps oldies and cripples out of workforce
>Public housing to keep niggers off the streets and away from white neighborhoods

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_socialism

>Maoists praise the lumpenproletariat.
That sounds retarded, it is defined as the part of the proletariat that is counter revolutionary.

nice meme

Because Nationalist-Libertarianism is better.

That graph is a strawman and you know it.

But, libertarianism is based on as little government as possible, but socialism requires a lot alot government involvement.

Can someone explain this to me?

Why aren't you an anarcho-communist :^)

Well Maoists are retarded

Not an argument.

Not an argument.

Not an argument.

Cringe

I think that falls under the Libertarian Socialist banner

Autismus Maximus the party

You only need to alter the couse of a ship by half a degree in oder to compromise the destination

I believe Freemasons have been subtley compromising every new political movement these past two hundred years.

>I understand the difference between liberalism and socialism

Ok, theres a difference on paper. Reality is:
Bread and circus is bread and circus.

Mutualism all the way!