Kill millions

>kill millions
>to save billions
Was that really a good plan?

Depends on which character you identify with the most.

Considering what's at stake, probably, I just don't think it's gonna work in the long term. Lasting peace with the likes of Nixon and Kissinger in charge of the States? Gimme a break.

Nah. Dr Manhattan came back to Earth six months later as a giant and shoved the whole planet up his asshole. Didn't matter.

yes
the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few

morality is absolute
no good action can come out of a bad action

>tfw can't look at this fucker anymore without instantly thinking of shitty mspaint comics about nintendo 3ds and the great gatsby

no, he didn't save mankind, he mutilated it.
Rorschach was right: never compromise, even in the face of armageddon.
Only way to walk into the shadows without remorse or regret.

why did this make me laugh

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>kill millions of jews
>to save billions of people
>Was that really a good plan?

So it would be moral to let billions die?

Zack Snyder disapproves.jpg

yes if you value human lives

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How the fuck did they get away with such terrible casting? Were they seriously unable to find a chad to play this part as was intended by the comic?

Considering we survived the Cold War IRL without having to psychic nuke one of our cities...no.

>Nite Owl and Ozymandias having a deep philosophical discussion about the morality of utilitarianism

>Suddenly giant butthole in the sky. Everyone dies from blue farts

The only countries that really matter are white european ones, the billions dying would be spear chuckers in the middle of nowhere

Blaming it on Manhattan, yes.

Blaming it on giant squid, no.

It actually baffles me how good the casting of Rorschach, Dr. Manhattan, and Nite Owl was vs. Ozy. No clue what Snyder was going for with that guy.

>implying the DCEU is worth saving

Oh sweet summer child.

We survived it because we didn't have a lunatic like Nixon running the show.

>a nuclear war between the first and second world would somehow only impact the third world

Wrong pic

>We're still talking about this film

Why did this have such a huge impact on people

I didn't watch this capeshit kiddos

I keep telling people this whole movie boils down to whether or not the ends justify the means. If you say yes, you're on team ozzy. If you say no you're on team Rorschach.
That easy.

American education.

nah you need to kill billions to save millions

it is one of most important films created this millenia along with batman v superman.

Millions of jerk-ass yankee Jew Yorkers. I'd say Based Ozy was in the right

It's the Citizen Kane of capeshit.

>has to try and trick some near-omnipotent being that can see the past, present and future to unite mankind
>didn't just say "hey dude, here's my plan to save Earth, just go be an asshole and start making threats to blow up the planet so humans have to unite to defeat you"

makes me think

Sure thing, Rorschach

>morality is absolute
If morality is absolute, then who will punish nature when it blows up a village of innocent people with a volcano?

>all the "bombs" were in Africa
>world shrugs and keeps fighting

His plan would have killed, conservatively the population of NYC in the 80's. So he would, assuming scorched earth, killing about seven million against seven billion. which is a one to one thousand ratio. That's pretty fucking good. it only becomes something to call bullsh on when you remember that Manhattan can just reassemble atoms and can observe time in a non-linear fashion.

>A Superman who has barely even been in a fight by the time he has to take on Zod, one of the greatest martial fighters from Krypton with more experience than imaginable
>The only way Supes can stop him is to kill him, there is legitimately no other way as he can't be talked down

So if you were Superman, what would you have done? Go on MCU cuck, explain to me. You'd throw yourself in the way to die so Zod can go on to kill the entirety of humanity? Do you cuckolds forget he was aiming his heat vision at a family for gods sakes? Like what the fuck is wrong with you people.

Superman killing the last of his kind to save a worthless little human family shows right there just how much good there really is in him.

Would you kill the last human in order to save a huddled bunch of cockroaches?

It makes sense when you're a literal comic book villain.

I miss Quentin

rorscarch coz im a badass and u never no wot to expect from me

kek'd
underrated

The dumb part of his plan was that unlike in the comic, he blew up a bunch of cities outside of America. What should have logically happened is that since Dr Manhattan was an American, everyone would blame America.

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The Comedian?

Why did soviets want to destroy the world? It looks like a plot hole. Don't you think IT'S FUCKING VERY STUPID?

I heard somewhere (without fact checking mind you) that Snyder wanted the Ozy twist to be a suprise for normies. So he cast a non-threatening beta twink as opposed to the alpha chad of the graphic novel. Not sure if I agree with that decision...

>blame attacks all over the world on an notorious American weapon
>this will unite the world
>blaming an attack on a completely alien threat will not

>be me, 17y.o
>first legal R-rated IMAX flick
>read the graphic novel early on
>mfw no squid

This movie could've been so much better..

Ozzy installed some kind of radiating device that blocked Dr. Manhattan'S fortune telling abilities-

yes

Am I remembering wrong or in the movie he put those bombs in multiple cities all over the world? It wasn't just new york

The comic it's just New York. The movie it's widespread globally. People are mixing the two up.

>Name is literally Ozymandias
Know your poetry anons

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It was an autistic plan

'No!'

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the only moral choice is to do nothing

Depends on your set of morals. :^)

>2017
>subjective morality

or maybe he could have done what he did in superman 2 where he fucking used his WITS to outsmart Lex Luther and Zod by fooling them into going into the pod and losing their powers.

There's twelve thousand kinds of moralities: communist morals, christian morals, the categorical imperative...
Every single one of these morals claims to be onjective and the only valid interpretation of human interaction. Go figure. :^)

He didn't say it was a good plan. He said it was a necessary sacrifice.

THE ONLY WINNING MOVE IS NOT TO PLAY
HOW ABOUT A NICE GAME OF CHESS?

Would pushing 1 man into a train justify saving 5 men. Eh, if he is my race yes. Would killing millions be justified to save billions. If they're my race yes.

I messed this post up. If pushing a spic or a nigger would save 5 men I would do it.

>the wits meme used in lieu of an alternative ending

He just wanted to clear some space so he could play his Nintendo out in public.

>dude utilitarianism lmao
nope, Rorschach was right

>multi-track drifting

If Dr. Manhattan can multiply at will, why can't he dismantle all nuclear weapons?
The fucking flash could punch them all into the sun in an Attosecond and someone being able to do anything and everything isn't?

Manhattan literally tells him he didnt solve a damn thing. And he can see into the future

No. The comic couldn't be more clear about this

It wasn't a good plan.

It was the only plan.

>It was the only plan.

You drank the Kool Aid.The Alexander obsessed narcissist Ozymandias is the one who keeps saying it was the only way

That's a very simple interpretation of the story from a very simple person

One of the few decently entertaining trips

Yes, we survived after both parties stopped fucking around with proxy wars.
In the end, millions died anyway but instead of being killed by the same enemy, now we have this constant tension between capitalism and communism that will never cease to exist because of the scars made by those wars.

Ozy was right if they can't unite for the greater good, unite them through a common enemy,

>I didn't watch the movie

New York was fucked real good, Ozy spent the entire movie creating the idea of Manhattan being a loose cannon on the edge of madness. All of this, so it would look like the americans lost control of their weapon which now sees the entire world as an enemy.

>now we have this constant tension between capitalism and communism

No we don't. Communism is dead except in irrelevant shit hole countries

>smartest man in the world
Of course it's a good plan

>Communism is dead except in irrelevant shit hole countries

Have you been living in isolation or just not been educated?

The holocaust

Checkmate...

underrated post

Oh please tell me what gigantic opposing force the communists have right now

Ok so lots of jews died but what lasting benefit was there for the white race?

>now we have this constant tension between capitalism and communism

Unless you're talking socialism, which is a real problem being pushed by 50% of the left wing, communism is fucking dead.

Like, sure, the communist part of china runs the country. But china's entirely capitalist. As is Russia.

Either way, the 'scars' made by those wars have a real fucking minor effect compared to the impact of business and not starving to death.

You're both talking out of your fucking asses, there's a reason the post WWII period is known as the long peace and it's because it's incredibly preferable compared to either WWI or WWII.

Did anyone say that? The assertion was there is constant tension between Capitalism and Communism.

Post modernists are basically running the western universities and indoctrinating political activists. 1 in 5 social scientists identify as Marxist.

Reddit.... hi..

>it's a thread devolves into nazis and tankies episode

Tfw to smart to not be a radical centrist

They really screwed up by making him creepy af from the get-go. Ozy should have seemed like a great guy, a real retired superhero right up until the tweest. I keep picturing him as Jay Garrick from the flash TV show.

And then he STILL killed them afterwards. how was that better?

yes

Nixon did literally nothing wrong

Dr. Manhattan could see everything but couldn't change the future. The world is deterministic to him, and he couldn't do anything about it, hence the tachyon stream that muddled his visions

*holds up spork*

none
now the jews get to milk the shit out of muh gorillions for political power

dude stop denying the holocaust