What the fuck is a "pro-choice Republican"? The 2016 GOP platform clearly states:
"The unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and we endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment's protections apply to unborn children."
If you're pro-choice, you're not a Republican. End of story.
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Abortion is the only reason blacks aren't currently a majority in the US.
I don't know about that, considering they're only 11% of the population
They're only 11% so you don't mind that percentage increasing? What?
Because you should have independent thought and be able to support a party without having to support every single one of its positions
All I said was that I don't believe abortion is the primary mechanism preventing blacks from being a majority
Yes because being appart of a political party means you must follow every single one of that parties guidelines to a T.
How about you stop being a mindless sheep and make your own decisions rather than only thinking what your party tells you to think.
Black women have 1.6 more pregnancies than white women.
BUT thanks to Planned Parenthood's secret eugenics program, they have 5x more abortions than white women.
Sorry, 1.6x not 1.6 more
There's like 1000 nigletts aborted every day in the US. Do you really want them to be born?
ask the Pro-Life Democrats
Link to more info about this eugenics program? Not saying you're wrong, looking to be redpilled
Pro-Choice Republican is kind of a new thing.
For years the GOP has margianalized itself by fighting losing culture war battles. These are not issues you win elections on, and moreover, they counteract the GOP's overall message of small government by trying to exert federal control over personal choices. This was a contradiction that prevented many from getting on board with Republicans in the first place, and led those voters into the Democratic Party.
Nowadays the vast majority of voters - including young white males - don't give a shit if gays get married or women have abortions. It's their business, not the state's.
You can see this primarily in the insurgent campaign of Donald Trump, who hasn't engaged much on the culture war front aside from the token gestures expected from the nominee. By dropping these two issues, he's expanded the GOP's voter base significantly, and allowed it to cast off a lot of the "old, white bigot" stigma.
It's just an evolution of the party, bringing it up to modern standards.
You know there's a thing called the Independent party, right? If you're independent enough to disagree with the GOP platform, why not register Independent?
>dividing and conquer
Sounds like something a shill would do
I'm just trying to understand why you would register with a party that disagrees with you on the fundamental issue of abortion
Pro-life fags need to stop shitting up the board, you don't need to follow every stupid republican stereotype to be a conservative.
Abortion:
>keeps the nigger population down
>keeps the number of deadbeat losers raised by single mothers down
Not everyone votes based on one make-or-break issue. You can agree with someone 90%, and be willing to compromise on the remainder.
Do you not understand each case is different?
Tell me if your wife had cancer, and was in the first couple weeks of pregnancy what you prefer her to do? Yes, she could carry the baby to term and hope the cancer had not progressed to receive chemo and radiation afterwards, or she could die before the child is even born meaning both child and mother both die, or she lives and the cancer has progressed, she gives birth and then she dies before the baby is even 6 months old, and your child now has no mother.
Tell me what you would do if your 10 year old daughter who just started her menstrual cycle was raped and became pregnant? Would you be able to watch your little girl who still played with dolls carry a baby that her pelvic bones may not even be able to birth?
I am just curious to know.
The 1.6x comes from an unreliable source, but here's another relevant article
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>fighting losing culture war battles
Abortion is not a losing battle. It is not analogous to gay marriage because public opinino on the debate has remained steady for decades now.
Conserva-cucks are fucking ridiculous. They favor adoption in all cases over abortion yet they don't want gay couples to be able to adopt children?
99% of people disagree with major parties on a single issue
You vote for the party you agree with the most, rarely does anyone find a party they agree with 100% of the time...
I'm a pro-choice Republican. I'm also a gay marriage supporter. I believe in the government staying the fuck out of your personal life which is how Republicans USED to act.
Being pro-life describes who you are at a fundamental level, though. Same w/ pro choice. I'd understand compromise if it was a minor issue, but the life of an unborn child isn't minor. Therefore it makes no sense to be a 'pro choice republican'
Yes, but an issue as severe as the life of an unborn child isn't JUST 'another issue', it's fundamental to who you are. The GOP Platform is pro-life, as should all Republicans be
>mfw someone tried to start a fake culture war near me
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If you aren't pro choice then you're pro black.
16% of the youth though. Blacks have been kept in check by the justice system for generations. Really their fault for committing shitloads of crime.
Anyway if we keep electing democrats that number will skyrocket as 4% of white women prefer black men.
I've seen like 10 abortion threads today from leftists, each of them condemning Republicans.
This must be CTR's new shilling point.
What if I'm neutral on the issue?
I am a pro choice republican. I support male abortion rights. Men shouldn't have to pay for a child they did not want.
What if the life of unborn childern is less important to you than securing the future of the economy? or reducing the size of government? or hell even just profiting from low taxes? wouldn't these people vote republican regardless of it's pro-life stance?
Then you simply don't understand it. Anyone with an intact heart isn't "neutral" about the idea of saving the life of babies
Shes very pretty
>if you're pro-choice, you're not a cuckold
i'm ok with this
Most people don't have this level of emotional attachment to the argument. The only reason you think a person's stance on abortion defines their entire personality is because you're emotionally invested and because of this, probably can't make any logical points against it in the first place.
You might be a fiscal and social conservative, but you certainty aren't a true Republican if you're pro-choice.
Republican hypocrisy. HAVE THAT BABY! HAVE THAT BABY! HAVE THAT BABY! Wait....WE WON'T PAY FOR IT! WE WON'T PAY FOR IT! WE WON'T PAY FOR IT! Force woman to have baby then tell woman to fuck off and deal with it. This leads to child abuse, child neglect, child abandonment...child is taken by state. Child is raised by state. Some children will be dependent on state and turn into sociopath. why the fuck didn't you just let her fucking abort it?
I'll never understand why """"Conservatives""""" are against minorities and Democrats having abortions. Do you cucks think that middle class white women are the ones filling the waiting rooms at these clinics?
Every aborted fetus is literally a lost vote for the dems. It's the only reason the dems dems don't already have a permanent majority in all 50 states.
I too have these feelings
this is one of the several reasons why the GOP is so fucked.
personally, i'd consider myself a Republican if it didn't come with a bunch of religious bullshit. especially in the state where i live.
the longer they cling to religion and instituting religious laws the longer they'll fuck themselves too.
Cry me a river.
If you aren't passionate about saving the lives of babies, you probably can't make any logical points against it.
>encourage blacks and browns to have many babies due to welfare state
>make government sanctioned culling of undesirable offspring of said blacks and browns illegal
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING MEEEEEE!!!!
>implying it won't just switch over to increased gun violence.
it depends on which state you live in, whether or not it has a closed or open primary. for instance, i live in FL, so there's literally no reason to register Independent except to be barred from voting in the Primary. there are some good arguments for and against it, but that's why some people don't register Independent.
Exactly my fucking problem with Republicans. As smart and savvy as they like to think they are...fucking stop with the fucking religion. STFU....leave it out and I'd be WAY more on your team.
I'll take that as a victory.
The problem with them abandoning the religious zeolites is someone else is gonna take that mantle for them in a third party, cutting the gop vote. They need religious voters to even have a chance to beat dems
There's too many people in the world anyway, a few aborted fetuses won't be missed.
As for having a choice, I'm not having kids so it doesn't affect me.
Ban it or don't, I don't care.
Eventually the crazy ass old people will die off and those are the ones that are fucking the bible.
Appeals to emotion are and always have been a shitty way of proving your point, so I'm afraid I have to disagree.
I think socially-liberal or moderate and fiscally-conservative.
True but that'll take another 20 years maybe? health care is only going to get better and prolong their life even longer. I can't imagine the damage dem's will do in that amount of time
i get that. the problem really goes back to the 80's and their effort to garner the religious vote in order to win elections. it worked for awhile too, but now it's a dead weight.
you bring up a fair point, but every year that weight becomes worth less and less to carry. and personally, i think there's a lot more moderates than there are fundamental Christians these days.
one day, user, one day. some states do better than others too when it comes to religion and politics. Republicans in FL suck cock tho, and they will for awhile because we have one of the larger single-issue voting block when it comes to abortion.
saying that you're pro-life in FL is almost a guaranteed win if you're against somebody who is pro-choice.
Abortion is what's saving the white race in the Us. This could be our future but if we repeal abortion laws we will throw it all away
im a registered republican here in new york, and im pro choice. im completely alt-right and support trump 100%
I'm pro-choice because abortion is the only thing stopping niggers from multiplying like gremlins. Do you think me being pro-choice means I'm voting for the BLM Democratic party? Yeah... no. Not so much.
Trump has my vote and my heart. If he calls for the American SA to form, I'll be in line.
This.
No abortion = shitskin takeover
How do you not see that you've just committed idiocy? You support him "100%" and get disagree with him on the important issue of abortion. Maybe the base is dumber than I thought.
>What the fuck is a "pro-choice Republican"?
Somebody who largely agrees with the republican platform with the exception of abortion.
>If you're pro-choice, you're not a Republican.
Atta boy, scare away people who otherwise side with you because of a non-issue.
>B-BUT MUH PRESHUS CHILLUNS!
Niggers and spics get abortions more than anybody else; its minority population control. We have way more important shit to worry about like bringing jobs back and removing taco.
Think of all the problems that little 13% cause. Do you really want to see the nigger population hitting 20% or more?
>Maybe the base is dumber than I thought.
>Come on guys, just vote independent!
I thought CTR ran out of money?
I never said anyone should register independent, I simply asked why you would continue to be a Republican if you disagree fundamentally with their platform
Well if you look at the statistics from recent previous elections, around 40% of american's attend church weekly, with almost 70-80% of devout Christians voting republican in all the national elections. Their turnout is pretty high as well, ~40% regularly voting in elections. if all this data holds up I bet they'll stay the religious right at least for another 20-30 years
i wouldn't worry about those guys much man. Sup Forums is always going on about something like CTR, or JDIF, or etc.
honestly, it's just a bunch of people trolling because the fish are eating the bait up so easy. and then some counter-trolls trying to troll the trolls.
some shills probably exist, but i think if they do, Sup Forums basically destroys them. if anything, this board is reactionary. you'd have to be an idiot to try and shill it, because this is the result.
anyone who has a moderately different opinion becomes a shill.
i mean hell, i believe that Sup Forums definitely influences the world outside of it, but you'd have to be an idiot to shill here. to troll here tho? there's always plenty of idiots who will take a bite.
>MUH ABORTION
>MUH GAY MARRIAGE
Nobody cares anymore faggot. We have more important shit to worry about. Kill yourself.
Republican =/= Christcuck
But they have increased in numbers since Roe v Wade. The only reason they are "decreasing" is because of Mexican high birth rate and the fact that the half-nigs are counted separate in the census. Don't forget nigger spics like Dominicans, Cubans and some of us.
i get it, but most Christians aren't "devout Christians", depending on what that means (not sure if it means regular church-goers or just fundamentalism). more and more Christians care less about gay-rights, for instance.
and the way i see it, if they haven't helped win the last several elections, why would a shrinking population help win future elections?
>voting based on an issue that can't be changed by elected officials
Devout as in regular church goers and people who typically vote based on their social views rather than economical.
The problem with abandoning them is they aren't going to sway democrats or independents to vote for them just because they drop a religious issue or two, democrats also love socialism for some godforsaken reason and won't bend. I'm not sure hoe large of a base republicans deflect by being pro-life, but i imagine it isn't very large.
My hope is after this election, whether trump wins or not, the GOP shifts focus away from conservatism and becomes more nationalistic, that way they can still get christian votes without pandering.
Then it's a shit minority population control because Mexicans born in the USA are increasing every day.
Hi.
I vote Republican.
I'm a registered as a Republican
I'm pro-choice
Eat a bag dicks shill
Which is why we need to deport illegals and build a wall. As I said earlier, we have more important things to worry about right now.
You already lost the immigration control war like the religious group lost the abortion war.
Well i guess the GOP and even the Democratic party are "Big-Tent" parties, so its not that strange that you have some opinions that differ from the current platform
I mean just in this new platform the Wall actually became apart of it for the first time
They are actually decreasing now, their birth rate is around 1.8 and they murder each other like crazy. We import African niggers to replace the lose.
Go USA!
Democrats also pander to religious people too, just look at that fat black man that was speaking and all the prayer bullshit.
Legal Mexicans are just at replacement level. Anchor babies and mass Immigration are the only things increasing our population.
If we stop the flood of mass imigration our population percentages would remain what they are now for a very long time.
>Africa
Dude, Dominicans and a high segment of our population are as black as African Americans. Even if your regular nigs are decreasing they exceed their previous numbers if you count all the other nigs coming from other places.
But you already lost that war. There is no coming back from the Mexicanization of the USA.Most whites are okay with it.
Most Republicans are pro choice, just like all liberals are arrogant inbred genetically defective retards.
>You already lost the immigration control war
>implying
Hey OP, you sound upset.
You also sound like a tool.
Yeah, we never really had a side that would fight for us. R and D have been dancing to the same tune of mass immigration for a long time now. Were all pretty much doomed, the state will eventually collapse and the nation will split apart and take the whole world down with it. Fun times ahead.
Sometime soon there wont be anything worth coming here for. After the collapse they will stay settled in the southwest.
Our flailing around in the ME protecting petrol dollars shows how truly fucked we are and the fall is not far off.
I think it is another Hillary-run distraction campaign to fractionate the Republicans and detract from bigger, more dangerous issues such as ISIS and Islamic terrorism, unvetted immigration and Syrian terror cels, international globalist corporate takeover of national laws and sovereignty, the looming monetary and economy crash, extreme federal power versus local/state choice, etc.
Throughout the entire Democratic National Convention there was ZERO discussion of the ISIS problem and of the growing European Moslem violence.
>the GOP platform clearly states
Woah, it's almost like giving people 2 options to identify as and telling them they have to fall in line with every opinion to be a part of either option is stupid. Woah.
I'm a Republican, or at least very anti-Democrat and I vote Republican, but I think all drugs should be legal, I really don't give a fuck if faggots get married, and I think religion is retarded. If you guys were smart you'd stop alienating people. If Trump hadn't won then the Republicans would have been blown the fuck out of the water even though Clinton is a shit candidate. "Old" Republicanism is dying off. Donald Trump proved it.
I'm pro choice and have been a registered republican for like four elections now. Try and stop me faggot.
I don't know if he is sincere but even if he is they won't let him win. Look what the media is doing now, they are using people that worked in security agencies to manipulate the patriotic vote against him.
Yeah man I feel you. Is funny how all the pro mass migration friends I have criticize me for being a traitor for not supporting the local teams in the olympics while they support the destruction of our culture.
"Pro-Life Democrats" just say they're pro-life to soothe their guilty consciences, thinking that God will give them a pass on Judgment Day for voting for Hillary.
If we need to kill other races to keep our race alive, we deserve to die.
>stopping the murder of people is an appeal to emotion
It's an appeal to fact and principle.
I agree, but abortion is never going away. It's sad to say, but people are too soulless to care anymore
People that support legal abortion don't think a fetus have any value as a person. Why do you think you will convince them?
Well, leftists here pretend to care about the increase of the number of abortions because of Zika. It is the same there?
>we deserve to die
Speak for yourself, cuck
Really? That's severe cognitive dissonance right there. No, not in the United States......yet.
>americans being confronted by the possibility that people can have different stances on different topics