Why is it that a liberal can turn conservative but not the other way around?

Why is it that a liberal can turn conservative but not the other way around?

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because knowledge increases exponentially as you age

Because, medpack, one side is objectively correct.

Negativity is a powerful thing

I have no idea what you're talking about. I was a conservative when I was younger and now I'm a liberal.

>implying

I used to be conservative and went left

Retardation goes only one way. You cannot become unretarded.

As the liberal ages their ideas become the norm. Then they want to hold onto those ideals and become conservative in an attempt to maintain them as the younger generation becomes liberals.

Yeah in my experience this is very common.

>younger
You're still young now.

Once you go black

kek bloodseeker is such a pubtrash hero

Interesting

Once you reach max lvl you stop levelling

I'm not though.

>medpack

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>b b but i m nottt >:(
Right.

Getting castrated doesn't count

children love the idea of free stuff and protection from the world, because that is how they grow up with their parents. They live in la-la land where everything is beautiful and peaceful.
Men grow up and realize this is entirely false, especially if they move somewhere which has been enriched, or if they've been taken to the cleaners through a divorce or whatnot. The longer you live the more clear it becomes that the game is rigged, and the TV is lying to you.

Thus younger people with no life experience vote for the party of fee-fees and free stuff. Also women are essentially big children which explains why they always vote Liberal as well.

Lol not surprised that you two are childish and can't keep the level of dialogue above a high school level.

>John Bercow
>Speaker of the house of commons
>Used to believe in racial purity
>Nearly defected to Labour

This

stop shaming our country fucking chopo.

A liberal can get mugged and become conservative

Very rarely does a conservative have someone come up to him and hand him a bunch of cash

Once you have kids and own land, you change your views about liberalism.

confirmation bias

most people on Sup Forums began as politically liberal, especially in the early days

you gotta remember this is a website made for chinese cartoons which was semi "undergound"

not the sort of place conservatives generally find themselves obsessively browsing

you know, with most either being poor redneck retards who cant afford or too dumb to operate the computer.or they're family men with jobs and shit and don't spend their time looking at futinari and collecting picture of the grinch in a mask while worshipping spree killers

all you're seeing here is most of us were politically liberal or that way inclined to begin with, it's how we werre raised, with the education system the anti racism the etc etc most of our parents were somewhat rich and we were allowed unfettered and unmonitered internet access - something 'd guess conserative parents are less inclined to do

anyway it's just confirmation bias. I'm sure a big part of the alt right pol conserativsism me-me is just being reactionary agaisnt their parents values a sort of angsty disguised rebellion

you see the same with conserative kids going goth etc

tldr you're all edgy fucking teens with liberal parents, Sup Forums has a heavily vetted selection bias

I'm sure there's tonnes of web places where conserative faggots talk about their gay threesomes stupid parents and ear lobe stretching

Exposure to reality.

Or not. It never ceases to amaze me how many of you need to oversimplify things to a ridiculous level in order to understand them. Constant sweeping generalizations with little to no attempt at understanding complexities and nuance of society and politics. You have to fit it into bite size pieces for your retard brains.

Liberals care more about people than conservatives do. It's more likely that someone will have events go on in their life where they stop caring than it is that they start caring.

Some people develop stronger empathy and compassion for their fellow man as they age and live through struggle.

Liberals care more about people than conservatives do

Nah, they just like to think they do. It's called virtue signaling.

The idea of self worth. To quote Ted.

"Words like “self-confidence,” “self-reliance,” “initiative,” “enterprise,” “optimism,” etc., play little role in the liberal and leftist vocabulary. The leftist is anti-individualistic, pro-collectivist. He wants society to solve everyone’s problems for them, satisfy everyone’s needs for them, take care of them. He is not the sort of person who has an inner sense of confidence in his ability to solve his own problems and satisfy his own needs. The leftist is antagonistic to the concept of competition because, deep inside, he feels like a loser."

Once you have a sense of self and believe in the potential of humanity as a whole and as individuals, it's very hard to lose.

Lol why because you don't feel something, other people must be faking it? Textbook projection chief.

>Liberals care more about people than conservatives do
liberals only care about themselves. their entire ideology is based on jealousy and entitlement

because the base of liberalism is to reject objective truth.

I'm a liberal, how is my ideology based on jealousy and entitlement?

we just call it "growing up" here.

>give me your money or you are greedy

zdziarski.com/blog/?p=6094
>assault weapons r bad guise
>i used to love them but now guns are bad
>register them and tax for the greaater good
>>never shows benefit of registration

> What is the Chamber of Commerce

THE PSYCHOLOGY OF MODERN LEFTISM
6. Almost everyone will agree that we live in a deeply troubled society. One of the most widespread manifestations of the craziness of our world is leftism, so a discussion of the psychology of leftism can serve as an introduction to the discussion of the problems of modern society in general.
7. But what is leftism? During the first half of the 20th century leftism could have been practically identified with socialism. Today the movement is fragmented and it is not clear who can properly be called a leftist. When we speak of leftists in this article we have in mind mainly socialists, collectivists, “politically correct” types, feminists, gay and disability activists, animal rights activists and the like. But not everyone who is associated with one of these movements is a leftist. What we are trying to get at in discussing leftism is not so much movement or an ideology as a psychological type, or rather a collection of related types. Thus, what we mean by “leftism” will emerge more clearly in the course of our discussion of leftist psychology. (Also, see paragraphs 227-230.)
8. Even so, our conception of leftism will remain a good deal less clear than we would wish, but there doesn’t seem to be any remedy for this. All we are trying to do here is indicate in a rough and approximate way the two psychological tendencies that we believe are the main driving force of modern leftism. We by no means claim to be telling the WHOLE truth about leftist psychology. Also, our discussion is meant to apply to modern leftism only. We leave open the question of the extent to which our discussion could be applied to the leftists of the 19th and early 20th centuries.

9. The two psychological tendencies that underlie modern leftism we call “feelings of inferiority” and “oversocialization.” Feelings of inferiority are characteristic of modern leftism as a whole, while oversocialization is characteristic only of a certain segment of modern leftism; but this segment is highly influential.
FEELINGS OF INFERIORITY
10. By “feelings of inferiority” we mean not only inferiority feelings in the strict sense but a whole spectrum of related traits; low self-esteem, feelings of powerlessness, depressive tendencies, defeatism, guilt, self- hatred, etc. We argue that modern leftists tend to have some such feelings (possibly more or less repressed) and that these feelings are decisive in determining the direction of modern leftism.

this

11. When someone interprets as derogatory almost anything that is said about him (or about groups with whom he identifies) we conclude that he has inferiority feelings or low self-esteem. This tendency is pronounced among minority rights activists, whether or not they belong to the minority groups whose rights they defend. They are hypersensitive about the words used to designate minorities and about anything that is said concerning minorities. The terms “negro,” “oriental,” “handicapped” or “chick” for an African, an Asian, a disabled person or a woman originally had no derogatory connotation. “Broad” and “chick” were merely the feminine equivalents of “guy,” “dude” or “fellow.” The negative connotations have been attached to these terms by the activists themselves. Some animal rights activists have gone so far as to reject the word “pet” and insist on its replacement by “animal companion.” Leftish anthropologists go to great lengths to avoid saying anything about primitive peoples that could conceivably be interpreted as negative. They want to replace the world “primitive” by “nonliterate.” They seem almost paranoid about anything that might suggest that any primitive culture is inferior to our own. (We do not mean to imply that primitive cultures ARE inferior to ours. We merely point out the hypersensitivity of leftish anthropologists.)
12. Those who are most sensitive about “politically incorrect” terminology are not the average black ghetto- dweller, Asian immigrant, abused woman or disabled person, but a minority of activists, many of whom do not even belong to any “oppressed” group but come from privileged strata of society. Political correctness has its stronghold among university professors, who have secure employment with comfortable salaries, and the majority of whom are heterosexual white males from middle- to upper-middle-class families.

The red pill cannot be un-swallowed.

Not really. Liberals only care about their image, and other people believing that they are good people.

x2

Is this the best you can cook up with your brainpower or are you just making strawmen on purpose?

How come I turned conservative but still have beta fetishes like femdom and cuckoldry?

liberalism is based on the myth of 'equality'. equality is not a biological reality. liberals hate themselves for being unfit and seek to bring everyone down to their level. equality makes it so there are no winners, and that way there are no losers, so liberals don't have to feel like the evolutionary failures that they are

I don't worry about young libshits, because once they get real jobs (not being a professor or community organizer) they realize how fucking retarded they were. Its the old libturds I worry about...maybe its pride that won't let them change...who knows?

Another statement that's so oversimplified you might as well have said nothing. I'm a liberal, and I don't believe all people are equal. Some people are clearly more intelligent and competent than others.

"Complexities and nuance" mean analysis paralysis and guiding policy by essay, as in essays titled "Why it is okay and very healthy to sodomize your child and call him a girl because it is found in primitive nigger cultures as well and very healthy" by Schlomo Kikenstein, PhD sociological studies, UCLA.

Common sense and simplicity are heuristics that actually work.

not an argument

all did was sum up this pretty much

no, they care about virtue-signalling by giving away resources that they think appear out of nowhere from the magic nation-fairy called government. except for all the DC democrats who actually run that show -- they just use you. they know it doesn't really work like that, but they don't care. what's important is that you fall in line when you're told to. pic related.

>talks against basic liberal viewpoint
>hurr durr thats not me you oversimplified

holy shit kys

Great blog opinion piece. It exaggerates and strawmans throughout. Equating thinking on a societal level with feelings of inferiority is missing the mark completely.

starting voting republican doesn't make you a conservative. there's plenty of liberal faggots in the GOP.

Yes, it's because I don't "feel something"

Fuck you're stupid.

Not my fault that you're wrong and not you're frustrated about it. The concepts that not everyone is equal and leftist ideas are not mutually exclusive.

All the arguments I'm getting amount to misunderstanding or misrepresenting the concepts they're addressing.

"A conservative is a liberal with a brain"

Lol says the fuckup who can't figure out how to respond to other posters.

Sure, but it becomes less idealistic and more narrow because it is based on experience rather than a desire to not see the weak harmed.

They are more sensitive to virtue signaling precisely because they are more empathetic.

The fact that liberals have more empathy is evident simply in the fact that women are more likely to liberal than men are.

Because more often than not a change in identification on the political spectrum isnt the result of one changing their views, but the political landscape itself shifting, and recently the political landscape has been shifting left. What was once considered far left is moderate left, and what was once a moderate left is now a mild conservative

im not frustrated over it I'm saying its a very simple left ideal that many people believe in
your entire argument is thats not true because you don't believe in it

this
and some people never hit the liberal phase to begin with due to shit like broken families and the need to work at a very young age.

I've said this before on Sup Forums, but In my early 20s I was addicted to prescription painkillers.

One day I made a conscious decision to go cold turkey, which was very successful. In the following months I came to despise liberal rhetoric for some reason, having previously been what I'd now term "a twee little socialist cunt".

basically, this

lol that's the unabomber's manifesto

Why because angry shut-ins on Sup Forums told you that? There is nothing about leftism that requires you believe all people are equal in capability.

>Why is it that a liberal can turn conservative but not the other way around?

Thats not true. Janeane Garofalo was a conservative until her friends made fun of her opinions in college. Now she's a liberal.

This. Most conservatives only follow blindly even if their leader walked off a cliff.

Never go full retard because once you do,
you cant go back.

>The fact that liberals have more empathy is evident simply in the fact that women are more likely to liberal than men are.

thats not a good thing

Happens to the elderly all the time when they realize conservatives want to fuck them and steal their gibs

God this board is so fucking edgy.

>triggered

But the switch from conservative to liberal does happen. A good example is the US Supreme Court, where once reliably conservative justices make shitty rulings just because they want to be remembered.

Liberalism is all about how much you value "muh feels". Spend too long in the ivory tower, and you start to want to 'fix' the peons below.

That's not true, I've actually started leaning left. I came here for ZimZam, turned into a mini-nazi for a while, then started seeing the positives of a 'let everyone be themselves' attitude after a year at uni. Also, I study physics at a typically very conservative uni with lots of posh boys, so I don't think I've been 'indoctrinated' as such.

I didn't say it was good or bad.

And immature.

Le ebin Reddit euphoria so enlightened you are

Most people do feel things you degenerate faggot. Its the fucking idiots like you that spend all their time trying to convince others you "feel" instead of actually doing the right thing. Hence the virtue signaling, you would rather people perceive you to feel than to actually feel it.

You care to much about what others perceive of you for your input to have any real meaning. Which is why its molded so easily by the group think hive mind of liberal ideology.

no because I have interacted with enough liberals in the real world to realize this is how they think
same with listening to politicians.

there is a reason they very consistently blame others such as businesses and policies for why a certain group of people fail instead of just saying some people aren't the same and will not make it as far as others

yes you are immature.

your brexit protests are proof enough that you behave like children

based leaf

This is true. I was a retard liberal when I was younger. Voted for Obama literally because he was black and ''it was time.'' Thats one of the reasons I'm afraid Clinton will win, because she is a woman and people are retarded. I look back and see how fucking retarded I was. Most of my friends are the same way. And liberals older than 40 always seem angry. At least all of the ones I've ever met.

>basic anarcho-environmentalism
>edgy

You might as well claim vegetarianism is edgy because Hitler was an adherent.

>let everyone be themselves
>left
The left literally denounce "laissez faire" (literally "leave it alone") fiscal policy as evil.
Granted, the mainstream right aren't great for freedom either, but at least they don't make being anti-freedom a core part of their doctrine. There are also pro-freedom fringe groups on the right, whereas the left-wing fringe are uniformly more oppressive and more totalitarian than the mainstream.

Please explain your thought processes

Meant for but I'm apparently retarded.

I guess if you're a moron even average people seem elitist.

I don't even talk politics with people besides my 2 closest friends in real life. All thoughts and behaviors are driven by some emotion, just because you lack empathy does not make it an invalid justification to do or believe something.

>he thinks I give a fuck about Brexit

Realize we live in different countries, you can see on the flag at the top of each post. We were all new to Sup Forums once.

Good statistics, but the graph is a bit misleading because it starts at 12 and not 0.

nailed it.

fp;bp

I got an education and reluctantly accepted that a lot of right wing viewpoints are well constructed manipulation to think in the interest of MNCs and banks over their own interest.

I started reading but I realized your full of shit so I skipped to the tldr. I was a liberal in my teens and early 20s even though my parents and entire family were conservatives. The older I got the more conservative I became. You are a retard.

Because a liberal, once accomplishing their goals, may think it's enough?

Conservatism doesn't even talk about legalizing discrimination or restoring the monarchy anymore. It's literally ideological sloppy seconds.

I used to be a conservative when I was 10

I've seen conservative turn liberal. I knew some ardent conservatives in college who are now raving liberals, but anecdotal evidence is still anecdotal. You're taking your own anecdotal evidence from your own personal experience and generalizing it to everyone.

You're then taking that presumption and making a thread for which you already know the responses. You want to feel proud of your conservatism and have something to stroke your dick over.

I've always heard that saying go both ways though.
>A conservative is a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is a conservative who's been to jail.

>If you are not a liberal at 25, you have no heart. If you are not a conservative at 35 you have no brain.

/thread