What's the average IQ in the Ukraine (relative to the international standard for a mean of course)?

What's the average IQ in the Ukraine (relative to the international standard for a mean of course)?

I simply cannot find a reliable source for this.

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iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Twin_Family_Study
youtube.com/watch?v=tRGuFM4DR2Y
soundcloud.com/couchtruthing/trumpmustwin
statisticbrain.com/iq-estimates-by-intended-college-major/
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I've only ever spoken to one Ukranian. She was unemployed, but a pretty good artist. I said I'd buy one of her paintings and she freaked out and went on a rant about how art is supposed to be anti-capitalism.

I'd say their IQs are pretty shit

you spoke to the only Ukrainian on this Earth who was not a vapid materialistic whore

I had a threesome with two Ukranian strippers in Thailand last summer. No idea about their IQ, just wanted to tell someone that.

At least it draws attention to the thread.

92-98

How did their dicks taste Muhammad

I don't have international standard but I have this:

National IQ of Ukraine based on the results of intelligence tests and estimated national IQs of the neighbouring country, Russia.

Ukraine: 96
Russia: 96

This was from "Intelligence and the wealth and poverty of nations (2002)"

I know it's around 92-98, but I need a more accurate value. Within 2 points if possible.

>being this jelly

I've read this before but then how can one explain the massive difference in prosperity between those countries, and even between the Ukraine and, say, Belarus?

its 97

could be a million different things.The availability of resources, differences in social, economic and political culture, the position of the country itself and access to trade etc etc. Success of a country is determined by so much more than the IQ of it's people.

>married
>unhappily though
>she went from a 9/10 to 7/10

so i got talking to a Ukrainian in Kiev who was studying post-grad level at the university there in something medical, she was cute, fun and after a few weeks i started thinking "divorce, fly over, bring her back to marry"... then, after a few beers and talking via text i must of typed some that upset her, tried to make a joke that didn't sound offense or was intended to be offense and on re-reads didn't sound offense unless you were looking at it from a really weird angle and she talked all communications.

Never bothered since, still married,

>married
why the fug did you ass fuck yourself?

only ugly Ukranians go to Thailand and only ugly men shag Thai women who are utter rank.

iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country

>innocent
probably a prostitute

Believe it or not but IQ has very little to do with genetics. It has to do with how your mind was exercised while it was in development. Besides, only 2/9 of IQ tests are about spatial and logical IQ (the only iqs that matters in my opinion) The rest is about garbage like in the picture I showed here. If you only played piano while your brain was in development then you're going to create a demand for the part of the brain that's responsible for music to grow, just like a muscle would. If you only read then you're going to have good attention span, memory and linguistic skills. If you solve puzzles and value logical thinking while you're growing up then you're going to become an independent thinker who always comes to his own conclusions, but if you were never properly socialized so that the social part of your brain could develop properly then you're going to become an aspie. If you consider yourself smart and well educated but have a low logical iq then in reality all you're doing is memorizing other people's conclusions and people like you are very annoying because it baffles the rest of us how you can sound so smart but still not be able to see all the logical fallacies in your arguments.

When you grow up under communism pretty much none of these intelligences are developed in your brain.

they were Ukranian strippers, not tourists. They were working in a strip club there and I fucked them after they finished work. I didn't fuck a Thai woman, I fucked two Ukranian women.

she wouldn't shut up about it after she started laying humans out of her gash.

it went from:
>1 in every 8 conversations
>1 in every 4 conversations
>1 in every 2 conversations
>all conversations

She ground me down with it. Got away with doing it cheap and quick though. Had assets to split quick, at least thought so.

Post the text

Let's ask doctor HDI.

tfw they have no iq

still, can't imagine qt from the ukraine go to thailand when they can make big bucks elsewhere, or they literally had cave vaginas and fucked everything that moved. how much?

it was like two years ago. even got talking to qt girls in supermarkets playing with their hair but can never make the transition. being married has some type of mental block i havent worked out how to crack yet.

They were contracted, from what I understand they go to a new place every 3 months, they were leaving for Vegas a few weeks after I was there and had both been in Paris several months before. I think clubs do it to have a stream of new girls to keep the men interested. How much? Free, I didn't pay for anything but my hotel room, and I had that anyway.

>Australian intellectuals

Fuck off shitskin. Ukraine is full.

93-97

nice one then (if true, its not). have had a threesome with a qt dutch girl and her fat friend who more or less raped/molestered me (fingered my bum). still counts though.

Like., maybe 5, or 6 right now my dude

It's true. Just wish I wasn't drunk at the time so I could remember more of it.

Lol you're so full of shit

No. IQ is 60-80% heritable. Approximately 3/4 of its variation is attributable to genetics.

Can I buy her? Import her to me

nope, the fact you can't believe someone had sex with a couple of slut strippers says a lot about you mate.

Most IQ samples we have right now outside of America, Western Europe, and a few other developed countries are useless. The sample sizes are usually too small or the sample wasn't randomized enough.

The Hebrew Development Index

It's not. Make a nigger child solve puzzles and shit for 2 hours every day and he's going to grow up to have the highest logical iq out of all niggers in the entire world.

Also the Flynn effect. Unless people genuinely think western IQ increased by 30 points through evolution in the last 100 years.

Sure, but only because 75% isn't 100%, leaving a non genetic component. The heritability of 0.75 isn't even disputed on (((Wikipedia)))

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ

> The general figure for the heritability of IQ, according to an authoritative American Psychological Association report, is 0.45 for children, and rises to around 0.75 for late teens and adults.[5][6] The heritability of IQ increases with age and reaches an asymptote at 18–20 years of age and continues at that level well into adulthood.[7] Recent studies suggest that family and parenting characteristics are not significant contributors to variation in IQ scores;[8]

Maybe some of these neets on here will believe you, but as someone who's lived in Europe half his life and speaks russian fluently since age 12, I know you're full of shit.

It's not the fact that you're saying you had sex with strippers.
It's a couple things:
>not many eastern-european strippers/prostitutes in southeast asia (prob. some, but not many)
>there isn't a "ukrainian stripper free agent pool" where club owners from across the world bid on the for 3-month contracts. It just doesn't work like that.

>hurr durr they wanted muh dik
Know who likes dick? Queer cocksuckers like dick. Strippers like money.

As an american my grandfather with his wife was a uki immigrant of rusyn descent. During WW2 scored so high on entrance exams into the navy he was selected to go college first out everyone is his group. Navy paid his way to learn fluid dynamics, ended up becoming a union boss in the 50s. My farther has an iq of 156 amd his sister of 164. He went on to princeton.

Personally i think ukrainians can be super smart if given the opportunity especially if they are rusyn descent.

>not many eastern european strippers in southeast asia
bullshit, there were literally two strip clubs which only had european chicks on Bangla Road in Phuket where I was staying.
>there isn't a "ukrainian stripper free agent pool" where club owners from across the world bid on the for 3-month contracts. It just doesn't work like that.
I never claimed that, just said that they were contracted for 3 months then would move on, that's what they told me.
Strippers are sluts, sluts love dick, shocking I know.

Were these studies were made on identical twins separated at birth with one child growing up with their biological parent and the other with adoptive parents yet both children grew up to become exactly the same person? Otherwise fuck off with this psuedo science. The reason white people have higher potential is because of less inbreeding

>Strippers are sluts, sluts love dick, shocking I know.
"The cobbler's children go unshod."

>ukraine

The most prominent of that type of study is the Minnesota Reared Twins Study, which is consistent with the numbers I've given in this thread.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Twin_Family_Study

Stay mad.

most women are sluts these days and you can't believe that strippers, women that literally work in the sex industry, aren't sluts. Lol okay then. I've had a threesome with 2 hot Ukranian chicks, you haven't. I win.

>Minnesota
That state alone invalidates the research

of course, this thread is retarded. Hungary probably has the highest maths geniuses per person then anyone else. Depends on the cultural zeitgeist, though as things are in the Ukraine at present i can't see it being a great place for higher educational learning.

Invalidates entirely? No.

It contributes yet another data point to the overwhelming body of scientific evidence that suggests that IQ is primarily determined by genetics and that it is disparately allocated across the races.

These studies are not 1 or 2 ofs. Literally every single piece of research across the last hundred years, be it public, private, or military, has reached the same conclusion.

Did the twins exercise different parts of their brains when they grew up or did they merely have different socialization?

When you're born you already have a good chunk of brain in your head and this brain is exactly the same for all twins. If you lock up two twin babies in basements then they're both going to grow up exactly the same, but if you send one of them to grow up with a senile 70 year old helicopter grandma who takes care of him from cradle to grave and the other to solve puzzles and shit for his survival in a SAW-like environment then one of them is going to have higher logical intelligence than the other.

We don't have a perfect understanding of the human genome as it relates to the development of intelligence. You're always going to be able to come up with some seemingly plausible socioeconomic factor that *could* hypothetically explain the racial variation away.

But the exact same thing could be said for height, yet nobody denies that tall parents generally tend to have tall children.

At some point, it becomes impossible to deny the pile of evidence. You can choose to ignore it, if you wish. I choose not to, as I grew up in a lower middle class environment without much enrichment, yet have consistently tested above the second standard deviation at various points throughout the entirety of my life.

Sometimes the simplest explanation is, in fact, correct.

It has nothing to do with education or socioeconomic status, it has to do with which parts of the brain you exercise.

What exactly was the brain exercises that you missed when you were growing up? When you grow up deprived of information then you're going to have to come up with your own conclusions using logic, so your logical iq will be higher but your verbal-linguistic iq may be lacking. If you grow up drawing a lot then your spatial iq is going to be higher. Now, if you grow up in a poor environment where the only qualities that are valued are your ability to hustle and look threatening then you're obviously going to grow up to be stupid as shit, but this has nothing to do with your education or socioeconomic status

> if you grow up poor then XYZ but this has nothing to do with your economic status

Except for the fact that your economic status is a sufficient condition to trigger the chain of consequences espoused in your post, per your own reasoning, and, as such, would necessarily be captured by the studies that compare twins reared in different environments.

Id lick her legs up to her cunt thats for sure. Who cares about the IQ

NO NO NO NO NO. If you grow up poor but in the forest without any tools then you're going to have to come up with your own creative ways to hunt animals in order to survive.

In the ghetto all the tricks that they use to hustle people are taught to them, they never get to actually use your own brain.

Come on Finland. You're better than this. I would have expected this kind of post from Sweden.

Slightly below 100

What about if you put a random sample of 1000 black men and 1000 black women in a forest, and another random sample of 1000 white men and 1000 white women in an otherwise identical forest, and left them to their own devices with no outside intervention for 1000 years?

What do you expect the outcome of this thought experiment to be?

I'm a Swede on a vpn. This is the second time someone has spotted me in just 2 days, wtf. How?

I use vpn because I can't tell my real opinions under a Swedish flag

I covered this earlier, didn't I? When we're born we already have a good chunk of brain in us and this brain is similar to our parent's. I also covered the fact that white people have higher potential IQ because of less inbreeding. But the fact of the matter is that even the stupidest niggers can be conditioned to have a high logical iq

>How
because you're a cuck and we find those easily

Our chunk of baby brain already determines how we're going to think, who we're going to be and what we're going to do if we're left completely alone

/pol I'm physician student INTP with 150 IQ right-wing... I'm based? I do 300 push up everyday
I'm a Sup Forums master Race?
youtube.com/watch?v=tRGuFM4DR2Y

>Believe it or not but IQ has very little to do with genetics.
Is from the very first post I replied to, when I asserted that the heritability (genetic component) was 0.75.

Now you're saying that a significant chunk of what we get is attributable to what we inherent from our parents, which seems at significant odds with your original post.

I don't really think you've thought this through enough. I have constantly maintained that there is a non-genetic component, but would not go so far as to conclude that the stupidest nigger can be conditioned to be very smart. You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, and this claim is at significant odds with the current body of data supporting the currently accepted .75 heritability factor.

I would like to continue but I have to go to bed now. Have a good night.

The chunk of baby brain is only important if you're left completely alone. It explains why twins seperated from birth turn out the same if their brains grow up understimulated. But if you grow up doing a diversified set of brain exercises then your baby brain is going to become insignificant

im sure its 100

soundcloud.com/couchtruthing/trumpmustwin

Average slav has an iq of 60, ukrainians are bottom of the slav barrell so.. 45 - 50

94 according to Lynn

>bullshit, there were literally two strip clubs which only had european chicks on Bangla Road in Phuket
What's the name of the clubs then? This shit is easy to look up, esp. in the era of google streetview (which is everywhere in Thailand).

Nigerian men go to Ukraine and literally fuck the sluts in the public parks.

Absolute whores.

Bullshit. Source? (and not some fake porn scene)

Source: myself in Kiev.

There's such a surplus of women in Ukraine, and the men are of such low quality, that the poor women will lay with anything or anyone, including African street vendors.

This map looks about right except the data for the Ukraine and especially Belarus seems to be shaky.

excuse me but the minnesota transracial adoption twin studies? They took pairs of genetically identical kids who were adopted into different social and racial environments and followed them for years. genetics remained the major factor in IQ.

even when adopted african american children were raised with white, high IQ parents who had high iq offspring, they still scored closer to their african american twin who stayed with his original family than the adopting parents or the foster siblings.

can someone from US tell me if this is true?
statisticbrain.com/iq-estimates-by-intended-college-major/
here Engineering, dentist medicine has the best students

>statisticbrain.com/iq-estimates-by-intended-college-major/
I can vouch that Education majors are in the bottom third.

Note that this is estimated IQ based on their GRE (SAT for grad school) scores. So what students are going to grad school? Probably not the idiots.
Also the top ones are among the most difficult undergrad majors at most universities here. The idiots with lower IQ that couldn't cut it in these majors drop out along the way and you're basically left with the smarter/more academically inclined ones.