Average IQ of 101

>Average IQ of 101
>Still poor as fuck
Wtf Mongolia

Other urls found in this thread:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blue_Waters
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobi_Desert
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

Black here, does this mean Sup Forums btfo??

Mongolia is a meme country its a buffer between China and Russia

I hear their capital is a very nice place

Low crime rates and rather modern for a country in that area, they conquered half of Europe once before so what more could they want?

POL BTFO

WHITEY ON SUICIDE WATCH

>Muh higher iq
>Muh white supremacy
>Muh superiority complex
>MUH iq = economy not economy = iq

poor doesnt mean shit country

mongolia is basically one big rural comfy town. it would be like if our empty states were a country.

first of all, a 101 IQ is very much average.

Second, IQ has nothing to do with wealth. This idea that "higher IQ = superior human being" is so stupid and only tells us that you know nothing about IQ or the causes of poverty within a society.

>They conquered half of europe

They conquered Novgorod and the Ukraine WTF are you talking about

They were under communist rule until the 1990s, now they are recovering somewhat.

Also a third of their 3 million people is nomadic, they love that tradition and shit.

Their capital looks comfy as fuck. Half the population of their country lives there

>>Still poor as fuck
a nomadic lifestyle is rich in its own right

land locked for eternity
invaded by powerful neighbors all the time
they're the JUST nation of asia

Why hasn't Chenk chinked this place ages ago?

>This idea that "higher IQ = superior human being" is so stupid and only tells us that you know nothing about IQ or the causes of poverty within a society.

>Refutes the entire mantra of Sup Forums
>Now opens up debate that Africans may be poor for other reasons

they haven't been landlocked for eternity, just since the fall of the Yuan Dynasty.

>IQ has nothing to do with wealth

The correlation is self-evident. Now granted, it's not as absolute correlation; but it's there.

Fuck off. Mongoria is based asf

They are the largest Empires of human history and they BTFO the Roman Empire.

They could have conquer all of Europe if it wasn't for Japan and Vietnam

really, they "BTFO the roman empire"...?

You haven't proven correlation, nor is it "self-evident", but it doesn't matter either way. Correlation is completely irrelevant as you can't prove causation one way or the other. For all you know, it could be wealth that results in a higher IQ due to children being raised with additional resources that allow them to develop into a healthier person.

Russia

I think he just means.in terms of size

They're afraid of waking a sleeping giant

Yes, they manage to create an empire that surpass the size of the Romans.

Transracial adoption studies indicate otherwise.

They value things other than technological progress such as being spiritually and mentally and emotionally sound

They've always known what the Unabomber was trying to tell us
That industrialization destroys what it means to be human

Their chakras are in perfect alignment

idk about that real Rome was already dead, you mean Byzantine who are just people at that point in history pretending to be romans

The Roman Empire was also much more densely populated, as opposed to the Mongol Empire's vast and endless steppes/deserts

Now expect to be called a shill/niggerlover/JIDF etc

is this where the "lack of resources held them back" meme comes into play?

why even waste time typing that? I can very safely predict outcomes based on people's IQ, and so can you. You can do all the mental backflips you want about how that doesn't really prove anything, but the real world moves on.

Only thing they managed to conquer was Persia everything else literally had no development.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blue_Waters

>Transracial adoption studies
No they don't.

No, you cannot. First of all, IQ is not some perfect measurement of a person's potential. The fact that you think it is tells me you know nothing about what an IQ even measures.

The Mongols also control different people with cultures and religion. In that term they did a better job. One of the reason on why the Roman Empire fall was the size, yet the Mongols expanded even more without having that problem.

proof that the only reason chinks get high IQ scores is because they copy and memorise everything, sometimes even cheating. They lack creativity.

sounds like Bhutan desu

Air is clean. Land is clean. People are happy.
You mad nigger jew? enjoy war with russia.

Eastern Rome was founded as a New Rome but gradually it became hellenic aka eastern shit.

They had a good run.

They're resting.

ok but it didn't last nearly as long nor did it bring about anything that contributed to civilization. they didn't even have a written language, there's no great mongol monuments that are preserved and revered to this day.

Yet remaining roman structures, artifacts, academic works, legends, art, etc. all continues to live on. We know everything about the Romans because they shaped the western world. nobody really knows anything about the mongols because they just killed a bunch of people and fell apart after a couple of centuries.

>but muh empire wuz bigger
by your logic: my country "BTFO"s yours since it's so much bigger.

I get that you're being ironic here, but I lived there for about a year and the dispositions between them and the west is jarring.

Everyone there is just so chill and friendly. It's hard to even annoy them. I'm glad to be back in America but Mongolia is almost alien as a civilization.

The Eastern peoples have always been much more in tune with what it means to be human due to their correct view of time as a circle with no beginning and no end as opposed to the incorrect Western view of time as a line with a beginning and an end point

You retarded, son?

Do you even know how many people lived in China?

Europe was the fucking kiddie leagues compared to Asia before 1600 AD or so

Yes... I never say they were a better Empire or that they develope anything, I only say that they are the largest Empire of human history, replying to the other user who imply they never conquer anything.

I'm actually not being ironic at all

America is pure shit, Americans are cancer, America has no reason to exist, no culture, no people.

>No, you cannot.
yep, I can. If you test 90, I wouldn't rely on you for much. for good reason. and you wouldn't either.

>First of all, IQ is not some perfect measurement of a person's potential.
never said it was, but it's one more indicator we didn't have before

>The fact that you think it is tells me you know nothing about what an IQ even measures.
lots typed out and not much said. how's that intro psych course going for you?

Not as many as you probably think

China was in a constant state of war as was Europe and they were ravaged by the plague earlier and more often than Europe

You realize 101 is basically just average, right?

>tfw you will never be born in Mongolia and live a peaceful life as a steppe nomad
Why continue

Rasheed mad that drones killed your family hahahaha

That's weird because Germany just imported millions of third world retards and their IQs didn't magically jump 30 points.

I think Bhutan sounds super comfy. I admire their policy about immigrants, and foreign intervention

What killed sandniggers?
Americans aren't a people.

Still considerably higher than Europe. Almost double according to some estimates I remember.

China has always been hugely populated. They've also been heavily urbanized and honestly, they dwarfed Europe in the middle ages in just about every way.

>denies a fact
>"""""refutation"""""

Really makes you flex your brain muscles

>Low crime rates
Who told you that?

Not even close to being the truth.

It's polluted as fuck and hard to even see or breathe in the winter.

Lived there for two years.

I would NEVER wish this filthy cancer life of a soulless cultureless, heathenist society on anyone in the world.

9/11 wasn't enough, the entire media and educational system must collapse for true culture, true religion, and true society to flourish.

>f you test 90, I wouldn't rely on you for much. for good reason
You're wrong. First of all, 90 is squarely within an acceptable range for the average person. A person with a "90 IQ" who is hard working, committed to excellence, and reliable would be a much better option than someone with a higher IQ who is lazy, full of himself, and doesn't care. Again, it's not a perfect measurement of anything, despite how hard you want it to be.

> how's that intro psych course going for you?
Tell me about your credentials, then, asshole.

Not really. That's not what I was conveying. You have more resources and opportunities here. Mongolia is basically a gigantic Midwest state. Calling most of it a country is almost a courtesy.

It's still a beautiful place, though.

I bet the streets aren't covered in garbage and the buses run relatively on time, in Ulaanbaatar.

Intelligence helps you play with whatever cards you were dealt. They're a landlocked country in the middle of nowhere.

>I bet the streets aren't covered in garbage and the buses run relatively on time, in Ulaanbaatar.

The streets are filthy, the ger districts aren't even paved half the time and there is no running water to them.

The buses are a fucking joke. They don't even have time tables posted on the stops and the are filled with pick pockets, anyway.

Yeah it's even hard to get into the country for a week of touring let alone actually moving there to work

They don't want any foreign influence changing their culture

China was no more urbanized than Rome
Keep in mind until ~200 years ago the vast percentage of populations everywhere were farmers because without modern technology you simply needed that many people to farm in order to sustain civilization

I'm not knocking China they were always on the cutting edge of civilization but they weren't leagues ahead of Europe and the Chinese did have their own Dark Ages that were brought about by warfare and disease and famine

Too bad.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobi_Desert
they literally have entire deserts.

Area 1,295,000 km2 (500,002 sq mi)
Area of Mongolia 604,600 mi2

literally only reason Russians and Chinks haven't taken it is because literally all of it is desert where not a single drop of water falls/

>mfw no rare Mongolian fleg

>be mongol
>own hundreds of cattle and horses
>tend to your flocks roaming free across a butifel unspoiled landscape
>have a big ass house made of furs and carpets that you can take with you anywhere you go
>be strong like a bear from all the milk and meat and wild berries you're eating every day
>some serf who is kept in a concrete cell by a bank, working 12-hour days to afford a dose of corn syrup, calls you poor

I know where you can get one right now but I won't give it up :^)

pls gib, senpai...

Yes, Africans are poor due to their aggressive alleles and instinctual thinking(not raw IQ alone)

Arable land (% of land area) from The World Bank: Data. ... Mongolia. 0.4%

Mongolia is that part of Civilization IV where no one has colonized it because it's shit teritory with no resources and it's still unihabitated well after 2000AD becuase the land is shit.

That explains it OP. The land is shit. The people are shit. It's pure crap and everyone leaves it alone and pretends it doesn't exist until you made this topic. This topic is literally the biggest news story in Mongolia right now, you fucking Mongol.

t. Mongol rapebaby

>For all you know, it could be wealth that results in a higher IQ due to children being raised with additional resources that allow them to develop into a healthier person
Except that isn't true and has been proven false countless times. Pic related.

Also
>le correlation doesn't equal causation xD
Just because some correlations are coincidental doesn't mean that some aren't causal, either. You're contradicting your own statement by automatically denying anything with a correlation instead of leaving it open ended, and using this denial as a surrogate argument against actual data.

I truly admire that. People who are willing to enact policy to defend their way of life.

>we will never be comfy in Bhutan living a simple life

>tfw I used to post with it when I lived there and everyone assumed I was Mongolian

You do realize that the Gobi doesn't make up most of the country, right?

It's only in the south. Even then there are some very lucrative mines there so it isn't even the worst part.

For farming, not animal husbandry...

Land isn't even shit. There's tons of natural resources.

it's impossible to retain control of a desert with people who own horses and weapons.

Race, Evolution, and Behavior (REB) uses a misrepresentation of r/K selection theory to study IQ and race. In particular, it largely relies on deduction from this concept, instead of actual data. It outlines a very simplistic classification scheme, containing three major racial group, wherein Rushton argues that these shares many defining traits.

Generally, Rushton and Jensen have a very poor understanding of not only genetics, but also other subjects, such as sociology, which they almost[1] ignore. There are a variety of other factors they ignore or underestimate the influence of as well[2].

Many of the propositions stated in the mentioned work are only informally justified, without supporting data. Such an example can be found in the table on page 265. This cites Rusthon's research based on three surveys he had made in the past, all of which have been criticized for being conducted with an adequate control group study and ignoring contradictory evidence (see Hartung's critique). Furthermore, they have been criticized for having a non-generalizable sample (see Hallpike's critique). C. Loring Brace's review of REB contains a detailed critique (sic):

I do not have a mongolian flag in my collection. It would be cool if a mongol showed up.

”Virtually every kind of anthropologist may be put in the position of being asked to comment on what is contained in this book, so, whatever our individual specialty, we should all be prepared to discuss what it represents. Race, Evolution, and Behavior is an amalgamation of bad biology and inexcusable anthropology. It is not science but advocacy, and advocacy for the promotion of "racialism." Tzvetan Todorov explains "racialism," in contrast to "racism," as belief in the existence of typological essences called "races" whose characteristics can be rated in hierarchical fashion (On Human Diversity: Nationalism, Racism, and Exoticism in French Thought, Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 1993, p. 31). "Racism," then, is the use of racialist assumptions to promote social or political ends, a course that Todorov regards as leading to "particularly catastrophic results." Perpetuating catastrophe is not the stated aim of Rushton's book, but current promoters of racist agendas will almost certainly regard it as a welcome weapon to apply for their noxious purposes.”

There are thousands of other works tearing down their research.

The review is, contrary to normal academic practice, very biased, and ignores large amount of research in the very subject of race and intelligence. Virtually all modern research rejects the 20st century's notion of racialism as an explanation of these differences.

Modern genetics[3] and craniometrics[4] has demonstrated that the genetic variation within the racialist's grouping of people (i.e., "Caucasoid", "Negroid", and "Mongoloid") is marginal. It is, however, known that the cranial capacity differs within racial groups, however modern research suggest that this does not have a significant impact on intelligence[5].

I do as well

It's become impossible for Western nations to do that lest they be called racist and it would be almost impossible for a nation with a large population to do
Too many competing interests and it's too easy to backdoor legislation when you have that political atmosphere

>a people who developed different somehow adapted to decent IQ without resources
wow op what is your next trick?

Several well-studied discoveries have also emerged since Jensen and Rushton's research. Especially the Flynn effect have had an important impact on this whole debate, since it suggests that environment is highly important. The Flynn effect is too rapid to be explained through genetic changes. Turkheimer has some interesting research on environment and intelligence, which is worth reading.

Lastly, we got socioeconomic status, which is one of the most important factors to intelligence. You cannot ignore that.
"But the richest black people are less intelligent than the poorest white"

This is a common fallacy racists make. Particularly, they substitute "socioeconomic" with "economic", ignoring large amount of other factors as well. If you normalize for wealth, but not SES (Socio-Economic Status), you can get these misleading numbers.

Secondly, there have been several transracial adoption studies, in which you adopt children accross races and measure their capabilities. Again, these are not perfect. Many factors have not been taking into account, but the studies are still interesting nonetheless[6].

>Land isn't even shit. There's tons of natural resources.

>12b GDP

The land is shit. Now fuck off, Chang.

To sum up the possible reasons for the outcome: 1. he children with two black parents were adopted substantially later than the other children. The average white child was adopted at about 19 months old, but the average child with two black parents was adopted at 32 months old. It was shown[7] that the participants who were adopted later had much lower IQs than those who were adopted earlier on. Black children adopted within one year of birth had IQs 7 points (!) higher than those adopted later.

Another effect that was not equalized out was the potential environmental damage that the child might have had. It have been shown in multiple studies[8] that e.g. high exposure to lead can be seen as a noticable difference in IQ tests.
"Africans are uncivilized. They got many resources, yet they are poor."

A lot of Africa's present-day problems can be traced back to mainly European colonialism, abuse, and eventual negligence and collapse of this constitution in the World Wars. These actions have had a enormous influence on Africa, far more than people realize. For example, it has destabilized the political situation of Africa, eventually leading to poor management of resources, including poor infrastructure, education, research etc.

Before colonialism, there were plenty of advanced African empires, such as the Axumite and Mali Empires, the Nok civilization, the Mutapa Empire, and the Buganda Kingdom. People have a strange image of Africa like this uncivilized continent, which is/was simply not true.
"Refugees are all rapists."

The EU center of Scripp's college has a interesting report on immigration and rape (the formatting is a little odd though), citing from Conclusion, "Ergo, whilst there are no verifiable correlations between numbers of immigrants and rape rates, it is crucial to consider why the various sexual attacks in Germany and Sweden have evoked emotionally-charged responses from the general public and right-wing parties."

Racists often cite Sweden as an example of "the rape capital of Europe". The EU parliament's report gives a clear reason for the high rape numbers in Europe. In particular, Swedish law defines rape, contrary to other, much broader[9]:

"Begreppet våldtäkt [har] blivit könsneutralt och utvidgats så att det utöver samlag även innefattar annan jämförbar handling med en person som är oförmögen att lämna sitt samtycke. [...] Efter en lagändring 1 april 2005 är det numera lika allvarligt att förgripa sig på en person som på egen hand har druckit sig kraftigt berusad som på en nykter person. Från och med 1 juli 2013 skärptes sexualbrottslagstiftningen [och] utvidgades till att omfatta de fall där offret reagerar med passivitet."

It's the cold climate and lack of resources that brought about the high IQ

You can't survive winter in Mongolia without a certain amount of ingenuity

This roughly translates to "The concept of rape has become gender neutral and extended to beyond intercourse, namely it includes other comparable act with a person who is incapable of giving consent. [...] After a change in the law April 1, 2005, it is now just as serious to molest a person, who, on their own, have drunk themselves heavily drunk as a sober person. From 1 July 2013 tightened sexual offenses law and was extended to include cases where the victim react with passivity."

This do have a enormous influence on the rape statistics. Moreover, Swedish law uses ‘extensive counting’ when reporting rape and as such counts every instance of rape separately, even if committed by the same accused on the same day[10]

[1]: They do touch the subject of wealth, however.

[2]: Including health, education, culture, sex, gender, and age.

[3]: Barbujani et al., An apportionment of human DNA diversity.

[4]: Relethford, 2002.

[5]: Nisbett et al., 2012, p. 142.

[6]: Weinberg, R. A., Scarr, S., & Waldman, I. D. (1992). The Minnesota Transracial Adoption Study.

[7]: Scarr and Weinberg, 1976, IQ Test Perforamnce of Black Children Adopted by White Families.

[8]: Bellinger et al., 1992, Low Level Lead Exposure, Intelligence and Academic Acheivement: A Long-term Follow-up Study

[10]: Amnesty International, 2010

>t. schizoargie

>Chang

I'm a white dude who lived there for two and a half years.

The land is highly varied. Look at a damn map, Juan. An area like Selenge aimag is one of the most fertile areas in the region.

>niggers can't be inferior
>reason is that would be racist

Reading comprehension isn't your strong point, is it?

It means culture matters. Mongolians just want to Mongol and ride around the steppes on horses hunting wolves with giant fucking eagles.

Mongolia is just fucked to be honest.

Their economy is already dominated by Chinese mining companies.

Mongolia is really poor.

Has a fucking tiny population.

Has shitty infrastructure.

Is LANDLOCKED

Is surrounded by Russia and China

Mongolia is going to be an eternal bitch to China and Russia, basically.

Do they still use cyrillic as offical script?

>it has destabilized the political situation of Africa
that feel when the majority of Sub-Saharan Africa were tribes and there was no central gov't
and it was only during and after the colonial era that Sub-Saharan Africa that centralized government was introduced
saying that colonialism "de-stablized" Africa implies there was some sort of central stability to begin with

IQ is a great ball-park estimate m8

I agree. I think that is the main reason why Rome fell...Multiculturalism, resulting in ways of life clashing--a fractured state. Too big for its own good. It's not that the US is too large, the state system is actually a good mechanism, it's just that we have too many cultures that all want different things.

Nothing I say would matter because it would be racist and therefore false and evil.

You can say some people are retarded, you can't say some groups of people are retarded because it has political power and significance, this means individuals don't matter.