I swear to god all you retards hating on anarcho-capitalism are so fucking stupid, anarcho-capitalism is the only ideology that gives you the true freedom you need. Do you hate freedom Sup Forums? It certainly seems like it, you do not need regulations or a police force to have a successful economy and a free market. Social norms will be what would drive this glorious anarcho-capitalist society to victory, think of it Sup Forums, a society in which only smart,hardworking and risk taking people become rich and well known. There would be no bureaucracy that tries to socially engineer the population, black lives matter would vanish due to no police force. Fewer niggers would steal your taxpayer money for welfare and food stamps, there would be no affirmative action that the government pushes which will also reduce the amount of niggers in the work force. The free market would be the thing that drives the population, you would vote with your wallet. You would subscribe to a private police force that would take care of people that violate the non aggression principle so that you would remain safe and happy.
>But roads! We need roads!
Roads would still be there and would be constructed by private corporations and people. You could also fund local road builders so that they could make them, roads are not difficult to make.
Try to argue anything Sup Forums and do not used memes.
Why aren't there any successful ancap states? Is it because a) it's a terrible ideology that has many flaws b) government systems are inherently stronger and conquer them or C) ancap states develop into city states which then develop into a unified nation
1: There has never been an ancap state. 2: You end the government 3: No they will not, they develop into a prosperous society based on the free market Should have picked a better subscription faggot.
Andrew Lopez
What differentiates a disparate system of farmers and tribes from an ancap state?
Also how would you end the governments of other nations. Wouldn't they be able to using their immense tax revenue and military be able to conquer you, or at least ravage your land for resources. They wouldnt try and instill a government necessarily.
Surely if I live in a little ancap society, it would be easier for me to pay someone for protection. Maybe a council would be formed to help pool money for public projects like roads and sewers. Soon you have a rudimentary government. Maybe it doesn't exercise power at first but as more people join the council for the benefits of being able to help improve things they cannot afford to themselves, surely it gains power? Doesn't this eventually lead to a city state?
Evan Thomas
1: Anarcho capitalism would be larger and has well, capitalism 2: Would not try to, private security and most people would be armed. 3: It would be quite different though, as this ''council'' as you called it would receive donations from your average Joe and would therefore be mostly controlled by your average Joe.
Camden Martinez
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Gabriel Sanders
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Justin Bell
That is very unlikely.
Austin Rodriguez
>anarcho-anything It has not once worked. There's a reason people form society's with a central leader or group of leaders. Cavemen did it, Indians did it, Romans did it and now we do it.
Dominic Wilson
If the tribes trade with each other and some of them are large, what's the difference. Gallic France was effectively ancap, no? I'm just trying to determine the difference
I doubt that private security and community militias could defeat an army or even provide a decent resistance. Sure I think that with guerilla warfare prolonged occupation would be discouraged but raids wouldn't. If your country has any desirable resources it would be pillaged.
But aren't taxes from the average Joe. Doesn't the average Joe also have a vote? I agree that a large government is different to a council but a city state is quite a reasonable comparison as the community grows and needs ever larger infrastructure
Jacob Rogers
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Jackson King
I'm just going to tell you that won't work. Sure for a few years, until people's basic instinct (greed) starts kicking in, and soon someone with enough money starts channeling that money to create followers, and voilá, you have a similar situation as today. Except you're being ruled straight by the people with most money, due to them buing and monopolizing everything. Basically what you're saying is that we should replace the government with a corporation... Sounds like some George Soros shit to me. I'm perfectly happy with a working state, thank you. Just get rid of the leftist scum and women's voting rights.
Thomas Young
Niggers taking my money?!? Wtf i hate Socialism now
Christian Walker
>Implying anarcho capitalism does not have a hierarchy There is a reason why normal anarchists hate us. 1: I do not know too much about Gaelic France so I cannot comment on that, most indian tribes are more mutualist or anarcho communist/syndicalist. 2: It would provide okay resistance, but in today's day and age trading is way more profitable than pillaging ( only in rare cases does war cost less) 3: Taxes are not voluntary and governments tend to be easily corrupted, and under the current system you vote for a government making decisions which is not what we want People like George Soros gain power by government intervention and using different nation states, and that person would also violate the non aggression principle which would make it okay to kill/arrest them.
Jack Adams
An-cap is the most retarded meme on Sup Forums The entire philosophy is built on the faulty premise that humans won't be dicks to each other. In an an-cap society, the people with the most guns will inevitably seize power, probably setting up a protection racket in the process. So now you're paying taxes to what is basically a rudimentary government again. Except this time, there's no fucking constitution to keep them in check. You don't pay your taxes? They burn your house down. >BUT AD LEAST IM FREE :DDD Even if we assume that somehow people would abide by this nonaggression pact, you think your tax problems are suddenly going to go away? No, because every service that is currently a public good will have a fee attached. Pay a police subscription. Pay a fire subscription. All those roads? They're fucking toll roads now. Locke said that we all choose to give up some freedom in return for protection of life, liberty, and property. We do that through a government.
Carter Bennett
You might not start out wanting that but I think human apathy and the utility of increasing government to around a city state level could easily arise
Jose Young
Drop the 'Anarcho' its less Gay!!
Justin Miller
Stephan molyneux is anarchist though.
Sebastian Fisher
I live in Sicily and I can guarantee you that Mafia is the perfect definition of anarcho-capitalism
Ian Johnson
Explain?
Easton Butler
This is the correct answer right here. It simply wont't work. Just like socialism doesn't work, because people are greedy. Capitalism is a much more stable solution. Of course, wealth is going to get centered on few individuals with time, but this can be solved by having a big war every 50 years or so.
Evan Moore
>Live in Anarcho-capitalistic utopia >wake up >no internet because DARPA was never funded and it wasn't developed >eat my breakfast >hope I don't die of heavy metal poisoning because there are no regulations regarding food safety >walk outside >get in to my car >hope I don't get hit because there are no regulations requiring seat belts or airbags >driving along the dirt path to my job at megacorp because there are no roads >work for 9hours with a 15 min break to eat my hopefully toxin free food >go out to parking lot >car's not there >call up the private police corporation >''please not you will be charged 19.95 for this call" >they give me a quote for 1000$ to investigate my car being stolen >only make 800$ a month because no labour laws >politely decline >walking home >get stabbed for my shoes >nearby private police contractor can't interfere because I don't have coverage with their company >die of internal bleeding >megacorp inherits myhouse because that's what my employment contract said in the fine print
Such is life in Anarcho-Capitalistic paradise
Connor Williams
If you love anarcho-capitalism so much you should probably go to Somalia: the ultimate ancap paradise.
Jonathan Sullivan
What about law enforcement then? Who dictates what is legal and what is not? If I have a shitload of money from something that people need, can I pay people with guns to enforce my beliefs on others?
Brandon Bell
1: No they would not, setting up factories and creating jobs is much more profitable, private police would protect you against these ''people with the most guns'' 2: Those services would be cheaper than normal services, and you do not necessarily have to buy them. 3: Private roads would be toll roads. 4:>Government >Freedom Pick one statecuck Depends, some people are more vigilant than others. The mafia is dangerous because it works underground and uses it's own means to enforce their law.
Camden Bell
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Oliver Jones
can I legally obtain a loli sex slave?
Gabriel Martin
There is nothing inherently good about total freedom, so that's not an argument. And a private police would mean that there are a lot of different police companies. And all of them would look after the interests of their financiers, which would result in different police forces actually fighting each other, i.e. basically gang violence.
Jace Sanders
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David Adams
>Norway defending ancap
Rofl, says a guy who's living in pretty much a socialist state. Even if you or your politicians (who have no economic education) refuse to admit it, your government is the biggest shareholder in your economy. It has a huge sovereign fund which reinvests the state-controlled equity into social programs, infrastructure, and more.
Your system is virtually that of market socialism by all of the academic definitions. And that's a good thing. It's one of the only forms of feasible socialism that actually works and does good for the people. I have no idea why you're biting the hand which is feeding you here, though.
Leo Miller
people do business without laws, they do wathever they want. there is not legislation, no protection for the environment, no protection for the workers, total competition.
1: Internet exists now, so it would not change anything. 2: You could look it, plenty of journalists research what is going on in different factories/ products. 3: You could buy a car with a seat belt/airbag? Those are for personal safety and helps you only when you crashed. 4:Already addressed roads 5: You do not necessarily have to work longer, it has been showed that working less makes you work harder and working longer makes you less healthy and tired and also less productive. 6: Why would you be charged more for your phone? 7: You would not necessarily make less, if this were true every job would be giving you minimum wage. 8: Call your police subscription you have access to? The non aggression principle. No. Police departments needs to cater to the common man which subscribes to them My government gives money to lazy and useless people providing them with food, water and shelter all stolen from the taxpayer. Somalia is more a bunch of governments fighting with each other.
Blake Cooper
> The entire philosophy is built on the faulty premise that humans won't be dicks to each other.
No it's not. Also the state has for all of recorded history failed precisely because of human nature.
Justin Thompson
Anarcho-Capitalism is the ultimate fedora meme ideology. Why do you cancerous fucks always feel the need to spread your shit to everyone? No one cares about your gay Jew ideology that worships money you hook nosed good goy faggot. You should kill yourself to end your nihilistic and materialistic misery deprived of any real spiritual meaning you pragmatist slave morality pleb shits.
Aiden Sanchez
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Nicholas Green
>le ebin fedora maymay xDDDDDDDDD
Christopher Smith
>Police departments needs to cater to the common man which subscribes to them
That makes no sense. They are going to cater to the ones who pay their wages. And since there are numerous of these police companies, there can be no unified set of laws. This means that police will act just like gangs, making their own rules.
Your idea simply doesn't work.
Nathan Perry
If you want true freedom go back to the tribal nature of the stone age. That's the end game of your shitty system anyway. >start company >literally sell everything >buy everything >become trillion dollar company >put everyone out of business >you are the world government
Asher Foster
They all follow a common law.
Jace Anderson
Common law with no-one to enforce it, i.e. there is no common law. It's not rocket science. If there are multiple police companies, there are multiple sets of laws. If there's only one set of laws, you have only one police force. And if you have unified laws, and a single police, congratulations, you have state with a government.
Julian Cox
Yes. Public goods and other high fixed cost projects are easily provided if you let people cooperate. But please do ignore that social and private incentives don't match. They only do because of the state.
Jacob Ross
they only don't\
Julian Smith
suca
Andrew Cooper
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Samuel Wilson
The non aggression principle would be the common law, and people would enforce that law. It would mostly be built on social norms. An ancap society would be built by ancaps for ancaps.
Wyatt Stewart
Infrastructure of sorts?
Leo Green
Now you're just starting to be retarded. If people don't have any incentives to follow rules, they don't. Some vague principles are not valid incentives. They might be if they were encoded in our DNA, but unfortunately they're not. Greed is, however.
Cooper Reed
this must be why currently everyone's a productive member of society. After all, it's more profitable to be one. The standards you need to make an ancap society work would also make a statist one work without flaws.
Daniel King
Try providing arguments, don't use memes.
Tyler Collins
then its not anarchism you fucking flid, kill yourself
Kevin Morris
An ancap society would not make everyone productive. I never said that.
Logan Phillips
You are right, it's anarcho capitalism :^)
John Lopez
It's stupid is what it is. If you can't defend your arguments, maybe you should consider changing your opinion.
Lincoln Brown
>1: No they would not, setting up factories and creating jobs is much more profitable I think you understood what I meant
Jordan Parker
Now I know everyone brings up the concept of "hurr durr anarcho capitalists don't build roads lol" but hear me out. Companies, individuals and firms need to transport goods to and from distributors and retailers, so if there is no road to transport said goods, wouldn't the company, idk just pay to build a fucking road? then they would have a road as an asset for which they could charge cunts to use. Please tell me how this wouldn't work
Henry Howard
Why would you call the police while you are being raped? are you retarded?
Gabriel Brooks
I did defend my arguments, make one and I would reply. Companies tend to follow what is most profitable. You were saying that I think that everybody does what is most profitable. It would work kind of like that, you already charge people to be on roads already though, and if they make it too unpractical people would not drive on it.
Jackson Barnes
it bears not one resemblance to any political meaning of the idea of 'anarchism' and is therefore something else, stateless capitalism for example. >inb4 'no true Scotsman fallacy' nope, just because something calls itself something if it does not hold up to any definition of the word then it cannot meaningfully use that word. Not the same tbqh senpai
The problem is not the capitalist side of this, but it's in the enforcing the societal rules. Your example would work just as fine in a modern capitalist state with privatized companies. What OP is suggesting doesn't work, because you need some sort of entity to act as an arbiter of justice, to enforce laws, and to protect the state against other states. To fund this system you need taxes. And now you basically have a modern state without the socialist components. It's a stupid idea, just use your fucking brains.
Wyatt Morgan
also in relation to people saying hurr durr "no laws or gubberment" anarcho capitalism never implies no government, it merely implies a tiny government with a constitution and consumer laws to protect consumers. pretty much how human society worked for thousands of years
Hunter Wilson
>"""""""anarcho""""""" capitalism
Connor Richardson
You did not, you ignored it completely. You are just another leftist with your head up your ass. Please fuck off, and go smoke some more weed.
Juan Miller
>Modern state without socialist components
gee wiz that sounds fucking excellent. AnCap when?
William Brooks
The Private police would be the "guys with the most guns" you dumb fuck. Also there is no reason at all that these services would be cheaper in the slightest, as it stands now the US government goes into debt making sure it's taxes aren't too harsh and maintaining it's retarded spending. Private companies would just charge the fuck out of you as they see fit.
i think one of the founders of 'anarcho'-capitalism would disagree with you, shitposting fucking colony get out
Carson Diaz
Then why the fuck do you have the word "anarcho" in it? If you have a state, a government, laws and law enforcement, YOU ARE NOT ANARCHIST. Fucks sake.
Oliver Watson
You might get your way, if you first understood the terms you use.
Jason Murphy
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Connor Sanders
Not everything is Black and white. Just because its anarcho, doesn't mean it HAS to have NO government strictly. Obviously in an Anarcho society of any kind if people want to set up a government they can, its a part of the freedoms they have, if that government gets enough power than it can protect consumers on a local or regional level. Use your critical thinking.
Gavin Ramirez
anarchy [an-er-kee] Spell Syllables Examples Word Origin See more synonyms on Thesaurus.com noun 1. a state of society without government or law. Corporatism is government helping large corporations. Capitalism still exist, nice straw man btw. No, an ancap society has no government ever.
Caleb Wood
I actually use my critical faculties way more than you do. What you are talking about is called CAPITALISM. It's not exactly a new thing. You just want to be different, so you'll add the anarcho in front of it, and look like a retard. Which is what you are. Please go read something about anarchism, it's not a hard concept to graps.
Sebastian Jackson
Norway please, youre socialist what do you even know about capitalism? You should learn from your friends, Denmark
Noah Collins
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William Butler
> OP is suggesting doesn't work, because you need some sort of entity to act as an arbiter of justice, to enforce laws, and to protect the state against other states. To fund this system you need taxes.
You are very unimaginative, doesn't mean the 7,000,000,000 other people on earth aren't. As history shows it only takes a few imaginative risk takers to revolutionize society where others will little imagination would never comprehend their ideas, that is the beauty of the market I mean shit just look at how a pencil is made, or how the internet has developed itself.
Listen buddy, I never once explicitly said "i am an anarcho capitalist" I am merely bringing up questions and queries I have in relation to it so it can be debated and I can learn more of it. Honestly learn to read dumbass.
Evan Davis
>You live in Norway, so you don't understand other types of government than the one in Norway How fucking shitty is the education down there? Or are you just especially retarded?
Lucas Anderson
What the fuck are you going on about? You didn't address any of my arguments. Are you on LSD? >Wow.... a hand. So. Imaginative man
Jose Turner
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Henry Fisher
Corporatism always occurs when capitalism is present you simply support neo feudalism
Dominic Collins
So youre angry because I made an assumption. now you are assuming the education in my country is bad, which is also a baseless assumption. Should I be as assmad as you are too?
Mason Gray
You didn't adress anything oh and by the way molyneux isn't even an anarchist
Carson Cook
My reading comprehension is apparently light years ahead of yours. It doesn't matter what you ARE, but what you TALK about. And I addressed what you TALK about. Go back to tumblr.
Benjamin Hughes
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Lincoln Ross
there really is no need arguing with it because it has been debunked enough times that it is LITERALLY a meme now, go touch yourself over child rape again fucking loser
Isaac Barnes
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Blake Ramirez
There are very few things that make me angry, but stupidity happens to be one of them. Especially the stupidity of other people. And unfortunately you are especially stupid. Or just an asshole.
Evan Gonzalez
Just because you believe the only way to keep a peaceful society is through taxation funded law, courts & police doesn't make it so. I know english isn't your first language but try to think a little mate.
Luke Cox
Given enough time all the power would end up in one company ruled by one person.
Logan Scott
>I actually use my critical faculties way more than you do. What you are talking about is called CAPITALISM. It's not exactly a new thing. You just want to be different, so you'll add the anarcho in front of it, and look like a retard. Which is what you are. Please go read something about anarchism, it's not a hard concept to graps. Please read this again, this is a clear assumption that I sit under the banner of AnCap ideology, and you called me retarded for being so, even though I'm not an AnCap.
The wew lad is unbelievable. it is true what they say about finns
