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He just might be. Degrees obtained in shithole countries are often worthless in non-shithole countries

Why hasn't he been called out for mansplaining?

Well, most immigrants are lower class, lower education.
No matter how rich a country is, there are not only people with degrees in engineering, IT or medicine. There is always a good bunch of people that work shitty manual labour jobs.
Especially for these people the "they steal our jobs" meme is true. Or at least the lower the income because they just work for less. There is a reason why we saw a need for a minimum wage 2-3 years ago...

Usually immigrants who come here would have to study their degree again here I'm friends with a woman who was a dentist in India but to be one here she'd have to do her degree all again.

>neurosurgeon
laule

This. If i had an injury that needed some form of surgery and they told me that the surgeon was named Abdullah Bin al Mohammedin with a Ph.D in surgery from the univeristy of Somalia i would honestly just let it heal by itself

The police will be at your door within the hour for a post like that

Protip: There's no medical university in Somalia

>Norweiganballer
For sure some rich kid

Hello, Abdullah Bin al Mohammedin.

Yes there is

White people are just bitter that south Asian immigrants are smarter and richer than them in their own countries.

...

The opinions of people from cities doesn't mater

Ah yes, the famous highly qualified surgeons, rocket scientists and engineers that illegally come by the millions

what a retard

>"Abdi the neurosurgeon"
LMAO

Ok and even if this were true, isn't this western oppressor ashamed to brain drain the 3rd world and steal all their qualified people ? Condemning millions of souls to death, by lack of doctors ?
Truly this is immoral and imperialistic behaviour

Why do all these pretentious dickweeds talk like this.

>'Yes, Kate,'

>'Damnit, Karen'

There is no Kate or Karen. It's the cringiest type of straw-man imaginable.

Entirely depends on the field.
A degree from some pointless bullshit like democracy obtained from university of polish shithole of białystok will be worthless in the real world.
But a physician's degree obtained in the same city will land you a job pretty much anywhere on the planet.

>democracy
ah shit I meant to type diplomacy

> Australian education

>addis ababa
>somalia

Nobody can steal jobs because the demand for labor is not fixed, but can given minimally adequate economic policy expand infinitely to absorb the entire supply

lel

Working class Brits that didn't have the same education and opportunities as this middle class, snobby, sanctimonious cunt are being priced out of the labour market by filthy fucking immigrants. Is it such a hard concept to grasp that immigration of low skilled labour leads to wage depression for the poorest in society?

We are talking more 3rd world shitholes

And it’s the other way round

This.

Expect every economist has disproven that multiple times

Now stop posting you filthy underclass and go back to collecting you Benefits

>immigrants arrive in a country and do manual labour for cheaper than locals
>lower class locals forced to face the fact that they're worth close to nothing
if abdul cleans the streets for a bag of peanuts that means that's how much that job is worth
shouldn't have been born poor, niggers

>except every economist has disproven that multiple times

I'm gona need a citation for that, cunt.

that's why a state should protect its citizens from immigrants who are willing to work for pennies and live like animals in some barracks with 20 people in one room
it's driving the wages and standards of living down and the only people who benefit from this are those exploited foreigners and capitalists that exploit them

A lot of cab drivers in Canada have degrees from shithole countries.

Excuse me you're replying to a literal underage kid who has never worked a day in his life, I suggest you simply close the tab and leave him be; we do not want to stress him or he might shit everywhere

This barely even happens. It would be fine if it did (poorfags are responsible for being poor, not anyone else) but it doesn't. Low-skill migration increases the demand for relatively high-skill labor, and since even working class natives in Europe have at least slightly higher IQs than migrants, they get those jobs and the combination of that and the lower prices from all the cheap labor the country now has makes up for the increased competition. Retarded socialist policies eliminate a lot of the advantages of this though so net of taxes and transfers the effects can be more ambiguous

>muh state is gonna stand up for the native working class
>the same state that is run by the CEOs making profits
Nationalism is incompatible with capitalism

>and capitalists that exploit them
come to italy gregorzswyz I have a nice job for you at this new construction site I acquired with some friends of mine
500€ per month, no contract no bullshit you work and get paid
500€ must be enough to buy a whole village in that shithole of yours isn't it?

I think it's a 9gag acquired disease, it's a meme from back in 2011

Abdi the neurosurgeon might not be after Kate's job but Jamal the good-for-nothing is after her taxmoney.

did abdul steal your street cleaner job pierre?

>capitalists that exploit them
Show 'em, towariś.

mu.edu.so/program/bachelor-degree-in-medicine-and-surgery/
There is, please google

Jamal the good for nothing is ultimately of more value than some parasite who will spread her legs in order to secure a lifestyle if need be.

t. Jamal

Low-skill migrants have comparative advantage in manual work
Low skill natives have comparative advantage in communication/institution familiaritu heavy work

The expansion of employment in manual labour necessitates the expansion of employment t higher stages of the production line. Eg having some poor migrant who assembles a phone or picks a cabbage impels people to hire a native to work at a call centre troubleshootibg said phone or driving in lorries to deliver said cabbages

Typical self-righteous norwegian idiot without a single clue about anything thinking he is somehow morally superior for opposing people who are against immigration. You would not believe how many of these dumb pieces of shits there are.

thank you for your generosity mr. Giuseppe Rossistein

Why are you spouting such bullshit? As I see it, more immigrants are willing to go work shitty jobs for a shitty salary while others just stop working at all because they get more with tax money.

Considering the amount of re-tweets im sure that cucklord autist is making a fortune via social media advertising.

anytime anytime my friend! I love eastern europeans so much, very hard workers and they understand that the needs of the company and the collective surpass the needs of the individual!

It's pretty funny how brain drain has been transformed into some kind of left-wing moral virtue.
The best is when it's in things like medicine and nursing, meaning leftish types are cheering on the theft of critically needed professionals from struggling nations.

So Kate with basic education gets shittier salary because of the immigrants who do want to work and then she pays from it for those that don't. Now that doesn't sound at all as a good deal for Kate.

It's pretty sad how its immigrants that get blamed for "stealing the jobs" and not the boss who wants to employ people as cheap as he can get away with
workers can't even sympathize with each others financial situations from the way they are made to compete against each other

Its not unheard of for doctors and skilled persons from developed countries to go to less developed countries

Also if you care so much for the economy of those countries you agree remittances are a developmental good, as are the training opportunities to be had in more developed countries and the potential role migration has in building trade ties.

>South asian immigrants
The few we have are almost always pizza shop owners and cleaning ladies, I don't think anyone's bitter about that.

He's not entirely wrong though, if you think norwegian businesses hire an immigrant that can't speak proper norwegian over a native norwegian then I doubt you've ever applied for a job before. The immigrants that actually "steal" jobs are highly educated immigrants from places like India and china, in laboratories and research centers.

So Kate with basic education don't want to clean toilets while Abdul with no education wants to do it. Abdul pays his fair share of taxes while Kate is leeching. Why doesn't Kate just search a job which matches her level of education? To me she seems like a lazy bitch who only wants the easy way in life.

>norwegian
must be a swede in disguise

>if you think norwegian businesses hire an immigrant that can't speak proper norwegian over a native norwegian
Well, if I would want to hire someone to lets say carry around boxes in my logistic center and had 2 applications
>Romanian guy with basically no German skills, working for 5€/hour and never heard of workers rights or
>German guy with perfect German that wants 12€/hour that might argue that working more than 12 hours a day is not allowed

Well, I would not think twice about it.

I found his profile and he turned out to be an immigrant himself or the child of immigrants either way not Norwegian.

The final result, the German guy gets a job an illiterate gypsy can't do that pays, at least, about the same, the gypsy still earns more than he would have in Romania, and everybody else enjoys cheaper logistics services. Everybody wins with capitalism

are you crazy? Look at that nigger who's cleaning that garbage for 1€ and a chicken sandwich
so degrading, what animals with no standards not like us europeans, too dignified to do such jobs for such low pay
it's his fault, he's stealing those toilets from us

Vague waffle and deflection, nothing more.

You should hire more of these niggers

Thing is though, if you need to hire someone to carry around boxes, that's going to be minimum wage. Both are gonna have to be paid the same amount, and if the romanian offers to do it cheaper and the employer accepts, if the state finds out the employer loses his business and gets jail time. This has happened multiple times here. So for 99% of employers, they have the choice of employing an immigrant that can't speak norwegian for minimum wage or a native norwegian for minimum wage. What do you think employers chose?

>the German guy gets a job an illiterate gypsy can't do that pays

Pretty sure there are quite a few jobs that just require knowing the language that pay...

As I said before, this is the main reason we even have minimum wage today (came 2-3 years ago).
It is very, very low, tho.
Kinda suer that 15 years ago very few Germans would work for 8,50€/hour or less. Not even shitty jobs.

Are you retarded? Who answers the phone when you call Zalando or T-Mobile? Not that illiterate gypsy... This shit got even outsourced from Switzerland to Germany

>fuck communism lol 1488 XD i love capitalism
>wtf you cant just have the labour market actually be competitive

Well Keith, if an immigrant with similar skills as you that does not speak your language as well as you do "steals" your job you might be a lazy twat who does fuck all at work so you're the problem in this case

>wtf ngueue stole my job because he works for less
>fuck that shit I'm gonna stay and live with my parents instead and praise kekistani gas the kikes lol

>Who answers the phone when you call Zalando or T-Mobile?

Soon? Pajeet.
Also: there are millions of Germans without an higher eduction, should the all work in callcenters?

Dont you have a pretty unique apprentice system though?

I guess you confused Germany with Switzerland

Pajeet, who was born in Germany? No problem. And to the other millions of Germans without an higher education: There is minimal wage. Don't expect to earn shit if you don't invest time in your career/future

>I CARE ABOUT THE SENDING COUNTRY!! THINK OF THE NURSES
>yeah but the sending country might also benefit fr..
>VAGUE WAFFLE AND DEFLECTION
the state of you

Yeah, you learn pretty much any job (even the slimy T*rk selling you your phone in the Vodafone store "learned" his job) for 2-3 years (3 years is more like bank/IT/technical stuff) where you go like 3-4 days a week and work and learn 1-2 days in a special "job school".

How does your apprentice system differ from ours? I genuinly don't know.

Don't you all go to Hauptschule or Gymnasium after the secondary school? And then do the Ausbildung after Hauptschule or university after Gymnasium? While in Switzerland, we begin with the Lehre/Ausbildung directly after the secondary school while others go to Gymnasium at the same time. I also heard that apprentices with a successfully completed apprenticeship aren't really as popular as people who made a degree in whatever field. But maybe I confused you with France

It was almost textbook deflection. You mentioned doctors from developed countries working abroad, a total non-sequitur, then remittances as though this isn't a crude bribe. You're trying to justify a deeply cynical, selfish practice and I think you know fine well it rings hollow.

Because Kate can't live on that toilet cleaning wage while Abdul somehow can. That's ignoring the fact Abdul would never stoop as low as cleaning toilets since it pays far less than taking benefits and the occasional theft. If somebody is cleaning toilets, odds are her name is Svetlana.

Migrants are not stealing our jobs.

t. Have CS degree but can't get a job because a Pajeet shitting on a computer took it because he works for pennies a day

>Migrants wouldn't be here if there was no capitalism

>capitalism
>in Europe

Move to a decent 3rd world country, become a freelance WebDev and undercut everyone.

You have a gross misunderstanding of the issue at hand. Forget about lazy workers, make the assumption that worker productivity is equal between immigrants and indigenous people. The immigrants are willing to work for less because they are still earning 10x the amount than compared to their shit hole country. In our profit driven capitalist society immigrants will be awarded the jobs in these situations.

I know for a FACT because I've seen it with my own eyes that this is happening in the building and construction industry. Polish and Romanian workers are literally 'stealing' British people's jobs because they are prepared to work for less money, regardless of worker productivity. And of course if you're a building company and you want to make more profit you hire immigrant workers because they are CHEAPER and it leads to a higher profit for the company. The only people to benefit from mass immigration are the large corporations.

It is absolutely atrocious that the Brits have put up with this for so long. I find it even more atrocious that the government has ALLOWED this to happen. Like the British people don't matter?

You can't say that, it's racist

is CS-related jobs hard to apply for?
do you have any advice for CS newb?

it is not Abdi's fault if the employer didnt employ him at first

You must be really shit if pajeet can steal your job.

Racism is a part of my culture

So you would still kick someone out ouf your country even though he is a contributing member of society? Or even providing jobs in his Kebab stand or Indian kitchen?

>You must be really shit if pajeet can steal your job.
>He still thinks performance is an issue.
If Pajeet is willing to work for 10$ a day you can bet companies are willing to put up with their shitty lines and terrible structure.

Cost saving>performance .

>member of society
But they are really not. They are creating their own societies while exploiting the society of the natives. That being said, it obviously depends on the situation on the job market. I don't mind Ukies coming here when we have probably the lowest unemployment in Europe. But I fully understand why western proles dislike Abduls and Jerzys coming to their countries.

A computer science degree is more than just learning basic syntax of the latest webdev framework. There's tons of cs jobs in the US and pajeet cannot communicate or compete with someone who has a cs degree.

Apply yourself

Na, you split up after elementary school (4 years) in too Haupt/Realschule (9/10 yeras) and Gymnasium (12-13 years).
After Haupt/Realschule you do a 2-3 year Ausbildung. After this you also have the chance to take a second way to get you Abitur and go to university, tho.
After Gymnasium you can do what ever you want. Uni/FH/Ausbildung.

>apprentices with a successfully completed apprenticeship aren't really as popular as people who made a degree in whatever field.

True. 13 years of school + 3/5 years of university are just worth more than 9/10 years of school + 2/3 years learning a job/going to job school.

I wouldn't give a fuck if you don't want to get medical treatment because of your racism too.
For me would be enough that I landed a job in Sweden.
You can either accept that there are immigrants working in your country or fuck off.

Economic studies haven't found correlation between immigration and a decrease of salaries and no amount strawmaning will change that.

Obviously

>Economic studies haven't found correlation between immigration and a decrease of salaries and no amount strawmaning will change that.
decreasing the amount of jobs isn't a meme, it's real.

thanks

>out sourcing isn't a thre-
statisticbrain.com/outsourcing-statistics-by-country/