What went wrong?

What went wrong?

Almost everything.

Shit writing, shit characters, shitty endings.

That Sup Forums won't let it go

Korra needed a more enjoyable personality.

Premise was shit. Should have either been far enough ahead into the future that the original Avatar series didn't matter or been a continuation of the first show's continuity where we got new stories for a familiar cast.

They tried to have both and it sucked.

Funnily enough, I recently finished writing the first book of a series I'm writing. Initially, before writing it I had all these cool characters and themes I wanted to throw in, but by the time it came to write a complete story that's actually enjoyable to readers, I found I had all these extra characters I knew not what to do with. It was very challenging finding meaningful roles and scenarios for every one of the characters that I knew readers would want more of.

And so I have this theory that that is exactly what happened with Korra.

Sage for blogshit.

We never saw Korra's abs.

bryke as head writers with nobody to keep them in check.

lack of good fanservice

I'm head writer on a video game. We haven't even gotten close to finishing the game and we already have a sizable pile of 'cool shit we'd like to do but can't' so half of being a good project director is knowing when to say 'that shit is rad as fuck but we can't do it.'

Bryke were given creative control without the assistance of the people who made ATLA good. On top of that TLOK was supposed to have what...2 seasons? But they got more and didn't know what to do with it.

The game has some good perks.
The combos are cool, the different uses of elements are awesome and shit Platinum knows how to pace their action games with strategic block and appropriate button mashing (apart from the last part).
The only downside is that there is literally nothing else. There's no story. The enemies are repetitive. The objectives are always the same, smash some guys, move on, mini games, and repeat. The martial arts look more like generic hollywood stunts. And it's bloody short for the price it charged, which was 15 bucks.
Get it at 5 dollars.

Eh, I look at her the same way as the draenei from WoW. A great vehicle for porn and damn the expense on canon or narrative

Sequel nobody wanted in first place.
One dimensional characters with very little character development. Most mistakes they did were simply due to lack of intelligence or sheer ignorance, again poor character development. Most characters didn't fit a role to the forward the story and were just "there". Same for the villains and a lack of sympathetic ones.

It was originally one season. Then two. Then four. You can spot this from the degree of interconnectivity between them.

>still being assblasted about this

you could have made a thread about something you actually like, OP. move on with your life. Korra was shit, get over it

No Aaron Ehasz.

You know what I don't get? Bryke's shitty ass tumblr letter about how they couldn't foreshadow Korrasami because the network only let them get away with that last scene (apparently) doesn't explain why they have zero interaction leading up to it.

Furthermore, Bryke didn't seem to care about fighting to give them more moments. They have less than ten conversations with each other throughout the entire season, but until now, all Bryke does is blame Nick.

And yet, they seemed to brag about how before, when Nick would call them out on something (and they were ready to be called out), they would respond with a Spongebob clip that depicted the same thing.

So
a) Why was Bryke so ill-prepared when Nick supposedly told them that all they could depict was a vague handhold?
b) Why didn't Bryke fight back with all the Spongebob episodes that depict physical and emotional intimacy between characters of the same sex?

For fuck's sake Spongebob has said I love you to Squidward, he's confessed to liking Squidward, the two have had so many episodes detailing their bond.

And yet Bryke were apparently banned from doing the same? Nickelodeon apparently forbade them from portraying any other moments of interaction between the two?

Doesn't add up.

Because Korrasami was last minute pandering in an attempt to stay relevant after the show ended?

They made the villains have good points then turn into hitler because they couldn't have them be in the right over Korra.

Amon was right that Benders formed an upper class over non-Benders and that the URN shouldn't be governed by foreign powers. He was wrong to try and eradicate Benders, and should have simply focused on crime prevention and ousting foreign control.

Unalaq was a total shit and we should just pretend he didn't exist, because seriously; fuck that guy.

Zaheer was right that absolute monarchies are a fundamental evil that need to be abolished for the sake of humanity. He was wrong in adopting what is essentially a parody of anarchy (and even if it wasn't cartoon, anarchy is a poor choice of political leaning).

Kuvira was... well, she wasn't as right as the others, but replacing a monarchy with a military dictatorship is basically no real change except comparatively easier to fix, so we'll call her neutral early on. Then she went Hitler-With-Tits.

SquidwardxSpongebob is meant to be a joke.

Spongebob being "drunk" is meant to be a joke.

Bolin being drunk on noodles is meant to be a joke.

KorraxAsami was not meant to be a joke.

Kuvira could have been one of the better grey villains without the concentration camps and actual education camps.

Still doesn't explain why Korra and Asami had ZERO interaction leading up to the finale but then randomly hook up?

They couldn't disguise Korra and Asami moments into jokes, really? When they managed to sneak in the gag about Sokka and Suki having sex?

fanservice is sexist and problematic. bryke would never demean a strong female character doing it, shitlord

Yeah, that was my point; with the exception of Unalaq (though I think that's just because I personally don't like him so I can't speak objectively on him) each of the villains demonstrated a degree of rightness.

With a couple changes to the script, Amon would have been the anti-oppression leader fighting against the puppet of government power that Korra was at first.

Zaheer would have been much the same, except less biased toward protecting one specific aspect group of people.

Kuvira would have brought order and stability to the Earth Kingdom/Empire and possibly instituted some form of constitution to legalize her power that would, in the long run, lead to some sort of non despotism in charge.

They're all just one or two steps from being legit heroes, the problem is that they couldn't remain like that because then Korra would look like the bad guy.

>specific aspect group of people.

I have got to stop editing things without just rewriting them.

>one specific group of people

main character is not relatable, terrible payoffs and pacing is horrible.

Poor planning.
Bryke knew they had 12 episodes to work with but wasted a significant amount of it on ships and pro-bending resulting in a finale that's just kind of rushed and half assed.

Then they get renewed and have no idea where to go so they spin their wheels for another season and a half.

Unalaq could have been a guy right about peoples lack of respect for nature and spirits, he even showed the characteristics for it early on. Too bad it was all a lie and he just wanted to destroy the world. So you're right in that he wasn't grey at all like the others, he just used a greyish position to manipulate korra (poorly at that).

The main character should have been Young tonraq

Butch lesbians are just digusting

BUILT FOR SEX

For Book 1? Nothing. Wasn't great writing but what I was expecting after S3 of ATLA.

All the books after that were rushed, made on a lower budget, and based off of bad ideas. The writers clearly had difficulty working in that structure and didn't have any natural places to take the characters and plot, so they basically started to write based on fan reception which is an awful idea.

>Amon was right that Benders formed an upper class over non-Benders
>The two richest men in the Avatar World are non-benders
>There were/are plenty of non-bender leaders
>There is exactly one bender leader who is the boss because of his bending (the Fire Lord)
>Amon was right

Amon was full of bullshit from the very beginning.

Korras personality is good.
The writing around it, and no character development is bad.

the fact that you even read that tumblr letter is sad as fuck

>ICE-IS water tribe caliph is a bender and wants to unleash spirit of darkness (as dumb as that plotline is)
>Three then eventually all four leaders of the Red Lotus are master benders
>Hot waifu Hitler is a bender
>Amon himself is a fucking bender

Nah m8 he had a point.

Korra wasn't naked thought the whole show.

>Red Lotus
>upper class
they were an extremist terrorist cell serving life sentences for their crimes

They had good premises but pulled them off horribly. MLP needed 45 minutes to pull off a concept similar to the one from Season 1 and did it way better. Also, the expectations were pretty big, which makes them not being able to deliver thier concepts properly much worse.

This guy gets it. Actually i'd go so far as to say that the premise of every season was good, but the execution was horse-shit.

Korrasami was a last ditch at relevancy by pandering to their tumblr audience. They got so much praise for being so lesbian forward, when Steven Universe has done it a thousand times more, and a thousand times more blatant.

They defended their Mako/Korra decision in the first season, then hit the breaks and started backpedaling hard when they realized they weren't getting asspatted like they had been for their first series. They're hacks who made something great because they had help from other people on their last series. It's not hard to understand.

Female lead. And not even in pair with a male
Villain-of-the-season formula (which actually caused more problems you would admit)
Too much "romance"

Everything was terrible and failed to live up to even the lowest of expectations.

Much of this,
Probs this too, though another reason is that they only thought they were getting a single season. Then they did season two, and then they got two more seasons. I mean you do two seasons set out to fullfill and wrap themselves up by the end of the finales for each, you might as well just do the last two seasons with two separate archs. Korra had a lot of potential, but only Season 3 and parts of Season 1 and 4 were good.

>the premise of every season was good, but the execution was horse-shit.
That's what hurts the most, though. A lot of it should write itself, even if it had been treated as an anthology with each season being self-contained, but they kept pushing their projection characters.

Half the Tenzin family was redundant, Bolin and Varrock could've been merged, Asami served no purpose and had no personality, all the cameos were useless and all old characters suffered arrested development, the metal-people were all redundant, the villains had way more development than the heroes and Korra never bothered coming up with the reasons on her own and always jumped to fighting.

Also, the only two decent episodes are fine on their own, but go so much against the established lore, they might as well be written by Geoge Lucas himself. They coul've even included them as a conflicting, nobody-knows-whos-right way, but it was introduced so "de facto-like" that it overwrote TLA's lore.

>Butch lesbians are just digusting
Your loss.

Here, have a list.

I think a lot of things went wrong, the characters not feeling like they are a group of friends with interesting chemsitry between each other on a journey and more just people who are together because they have nothing better to do and come across as just boring, can you think of any fun or interesting quotes or exchanges or moments between any Korra characters? I can't really. I think the lack of exploration in the series held it back too where you have new and interesting things being discovered and interracted with as the group completes its journey in the original show you just have the initially interesting Republic City and that's about it in Korra that just become boring after a couple of episodes are spent there, I would have liked to have seen more of anything really, and especially revisiting old places to see how they have changed, I can't believe they didn't even go to the Fire Nation which would have been a great place to explore after the war. Lastly I'd say the show had a real problem with just having a larger vision in mind, you can tell in the original show that they wanted to work with filling their world with interesting things and expanding on the cultures they created in it which I think is one of the shows strongest points and you can see it in stuff like when it describes stuff like the philosophies of bending and also knowing that leaving the origin of bending/the avatar a mystery is better than it being explained in a really uninteresting way that detracts from the universe more than it adds to it.

The thing that REALLY went wrong was that they didn't know if they would have more than 1 season, so they hamstrung themselves season 1 when they could've spread the Amon arc into the whole series in a good way. Then they fucked up with how they structured everything

Literally no planning. The characters weren't fundamentally wrong at the beginning neither was the story lines but in the end they all go to shit.

Every season ended like crap even if the third almost made it. Every character went to crap because they were constantly making up story lines on the fly and characters got molded to match that shit. So ya they all turned out like shit.

What went right? Good art much of the time and trolling with korrasami at the end. If it was all going to shit at least lulz were had.

We didn't get to see Korra grow into a fit milf.

you could tell bryke liked to think they were making Game of Thrones for kids or some shit. They kept padding the series with more and more characters and subplots without even fleshing out the main characters or sticking to the main plot at hand.

1st season w/ co was legit

>that moment when korra learned to airbend and Sup Forums exploded

Neither Unalaq, nor Kuvira did what they did because their bending.

Not to mention that it is at least doubtful whether Kuvira was even in the wrong.

And then, of course, we still have Varrick, a non-bender shitmixer, and Raiko, the single worst non-bender world leader in history.

Not to mention that the bloodbender brothers' problems also started with a non-bender (non-bender Yakone) who specifically messed them up because he was a non-bender and they were benders.

>they didn't know if they would have more than 1 season, so they hamstrung themselves season 1 when they could've spread the Amon arc into the whole series in a good way. Then they fucked up with how they structured everything

Which sucks because they still could have kept that plot going, even if Amon himself was no longer involved. I'm still disappointed they never brought up the equalists again. There was a lot of potential in the "anti-bender" movement. Many possibilities for interesting stories and character development.

nothing

gay boys like you need to fuck off

S3 had pretty good execution to fit its premise. S1 and S4 had alright executions, but that just lead to disappointment. S2 was the only one with absolutely terrible execution.

S3 was ok, the rest not so much.

Steampunk.
Fucking ruined it.

Most of season 2, and the recap episode in season 4. Nothing else.

Completely static characters without any arcs. DBZ power creep. Pandering to shippers. Poorly thought out worldbuilding.

Not trying to excuse the writing, but mismanagement from Nick really hurt the show. They really must've hated LoK considering how quickly they burnt off Season 4.

they didn't just make it porn.