>Summer revenue has tumbled more than 8 percent behind 2016 in North America after a string of misses.
>Save for Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 and Wonder Woman, every summer tentpole so far has underperformed in North America — albeit to varying degrees — resulting in revenue for the season currently running 8 percent behind the same period last year. Worse, gains made in the earlier part of 2017 have been eroded to the point where revenue for the full year is now even with 2016 (in mid-April, it was 6 percent ahead).
>Heading into the July Fourth weekend, Hollywood was confident that Universal and Illumination's Despicable Me 3 wouldn't suffer the same plight. But instead of opening to an expected $85 million-plus, the animated tentpole came in at $72.4 million, well behind Despicable Me 2 and spinoff Minions. While the threequel is hardly a bomb, its lackluster domestic debut sets off another round of alarm bells within the major studios.
>The gap is startling. Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales, now winding down its run, has earned $165.5 million domestically since its release in late May, compared to $241.1 million for the last film, Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides. Disney went ahead and made Dead Men Tell No Tales even after Stranger Tides did notably less business than either Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End ($309.4 million) or Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest ($423.3 million).
>Paramount's once-shiny Transformers is in the same boat. Like Dead Men Tell No Tales, Transformers: The Last Knight is the fifth outing in a franchise already plagued by diminishing returns in the U.S. The Last Knight, hitting theaters on June 21, has grossed just $102.1 million. The previous installment, Transformers: Age of Extinction, topped out at $245.4 million, versus $342.4 million for Transformers 3 and a franchise-best $402 million for Transformers 2.
ITS HAPPENING
HOLLYWOOD IS FINISHED
Brandon Cook
about time
Grayson Carter
Stop watching franchise movies
Dominic Morales
The indie revolution is coming. A couple more years of desperate moves by studios while Netflix rakes in the money before the studios start financing low-budget auteurs left, right and centre in the hopes that one of them makes something that becomes a cult classic
Who will the new Tarantino, Paul Thomas Anderson, Kevin Smith and Richard Linklater be guys?
Mason Mitchell
well this isnt really news, instead of 10 blockbuster a year which make a lot of money we have now 5 blockbuster who will make insane money and 5 blockbuster who make semi good money
how do we fix this?
Asher Hill
I wouldn't have a problem with sequels if they weren't such god damn lazy cash-grabs. How about trying something new in your sequels instead of recycling the first movie?
Joshua Bailey
good
Luis Miller
oh, no. now hollywood execs will only be able to afford 7 homes instead of 8.
Justin Fisher
I think they'll turn to the dying husks of people like Scorsese before they realize that new blood is needed.
I mean I like the Scorz but still.
Dominic Sullivan
Because risks are bad user
Alexander Carter
>Tarantino, Paul Thomas Anderson, Kevin Smith and Richard Linklater God no more please just stop
Charles Allen
>Another insipid Transformers movie >Pixar's worst franchise what only babies enjoy >A completely uncalled for Pirates sequel These brands are weak and/or don't have much going for them. People eventually realize a cashgrab after a franchise has spawned it's 3rd or 5th movie.
Robert Reed
The Last Knight was legit the worst big budget movie I've ever seen
Anthony Johnson
it just means we get more sequels and remakes.
Easton Watson
There are people ITT that think this will encourage Hollywood to take more risks.
Jose Clark
>Marvel and DC still dominating Capekinos back on the menu boys
Charles Bell
How did F8 get $1.2B then?
Brayden Parker
I work at a theater and for the first time in the six or seven years since we got 3D projectors installed, we are being booked for films in a strict 2D guideline. The ratio used to be 80% 3D to 20% 2D showings and it has gradually been leaning the other direction until this moment, when they just gave up on that shit altogether.
It's pretty fantastic, honestly. Either the movie industry is going to wise up and stop trying to bamboozle people with a lazy 3D filter or a brand name, or it's going to crash and burn. We can only go up from here.
Dominic Cooper
f&f is actually like two series joined together, with the second series starting with fast five
Benjamin Allen
>in North America >domestically >domestic >domestically >in America And hollywood does not give a single fuck
Brody Taylor
People get tired of franchises eventually. Shocker.
Josiah Nguyen
Less percentage of profits.
Christian Fisher
Fast and Furious movies are actually decent compared to the dreck that he named.
Grayson Butler
CLEARLY THE ANSWER IS MORE REMAKES! :^)
Liam Foster
>Save for Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 and Wonder Woman So all the studios will star thinking they need to make comic book adaptations and rush to grab any remotely viable license outside of Marvel and DC, like Spawn, Invincible, Witchblade and... I dunno, fucking Madman or something.
Sebastian Parker
China and SEA
Owen Gray
>These brands are weak and/or don't have much going for them. Transformers? Tell that to China.
Ryder Bell
No, they've already taken from it that what people want is cinematic universes. See Dark Universe, see Amazing Spiderman, see Ghostbusters, see Transformers, see Godzilla vs. King Kong, et cetera.
Jaxon Sanchez
Those would all be R-rated and without the Deadpool or Wolverine name to serve as a draw to offset that, though.
Benjamin Turner
it's a good time to be a comic book creator, even a hack like kirkman can become a multimillionaire.
Easton Miller
Yup.
Liam Brooks
>all quiet on the western front why, though
Christopher Watson
>The Crow >Jason Momoa
U wot m9? I like him as a hairy barbarian and all but the Crow???
James Morales
Was there any good blockbusters this year?
Connor Allen
power rangers
Matthew Garcia
I never got why anyone would pay more money to get a minor headache
Ethan Turner
>tfw having movie #5 in a series is now considered normal >one franchise is even up to #8
just take a step back and take note of the absurdity
Ryder Ortiz
unironically this As a kid, I always figured there was no money or grandeur in original comic books. Turns out hollywood loves them because they're stories that are focused on action and cliches
Adam King
It used to be a joke now it's real life
Matthew Williams
>india >china >implying those govts don't take most of the money anyway
Michael Ross
Apes
Oliver Hernandez
Logan?
Luis Robinson
yeah because the tenth friday the thirteenth movie totally didn't come out fifteen years ago
Alexander Gutierrez
>Coming up: Pongo's review of Rocky five Thousand.
Juan Thomas
That shit was like direct to DVD but the 8th HP or MCU movie was campaigned like it's
Bentley Clark
based marvel will save us again with spiderman
Julian Murphy
King Arthur was my favourite so far
Logan Miller
>Homecucking
Aaron Peterson
The problem with Hollywood is that it makes shit.
Unimaginative, unremarkable shit.
Levi Allen
>Going to the movies costs $15 here in California >prices of any sort snack is insanely high >they expect me to go to the theaters and spend $30+ dollars on 2 tickets Hollywood can eat shit
Jose Brown
>all quiet on the western front Why not one about Verdun or Soissons. I excited for Dunkirk but a remake of a classic like that is not necessary
Carson Harris
If it doesn't involve English speaking soldiers, Hollywood won't bother. All Quiet on the Western Front gets a pass because of its literary significance, but any other movie that tries depicting massive battles will either shove Americans in and make them the pov character, or give everyone inexplicable English or American accents.
Chase Ramirez
>tfw groupon offers 5€ tickets for my kinothek that last >2 years feels good man
Elijah Kelly
Funny enough every superhero movie this year has been really good. Everyone talks of superhero fatigue yet they're the only ones putting out consistent quality.
Jace Gomez
Star Wars will become this way soon..
Brandon Myers
>>Pixar's worst franchise what only babies enjoy t. facebook "film buff" memer
Gabriel Peterson
Vidoegames have gone through this phase. Their solution has been targetting the whales with gamble-like elements. Do you think something like that is implementable in the context of theaters?
Jason Allen
>local theater is $6 for a matinee ticket, $15 for two adult tickets, and $8 for a large popcorn, large drink, and candy
Landon Jones
Jesus, does the world really need another variant of A Star is Born?
Jeremiah Baker
>won't make a movie about the longest battle and largest tank battle of ww1 all because it they didn't speak English Do people just not like the French military in ww1
Matthew Bennett
awful, I hope they all bomb
Luis Fisher
>Star Wars will become this way soon.. i surely hope so.
Camden Peterson
Because the movies have been shit maybe? Surely it can't just be that!
Samuel Cooper
>Like to see one or two disney movies a year >Now every movie is a disney movie
Cameron Roberts
>Implying (((Hollywood))) is going to be able to compete with Bollywood in India >Implying the Chinese government is going to want a bunch of kikes taking over their mass media establishment
As soon as India and China really get their shit together, the jewish cartel of mass media is finished.
Oliver Fisher
Judging by the most well know WWI video game, no.
Ryder Hill
>>Save for Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 and Wonder Woman
Capeshit is the future deal with it fags.
Logan Torres
oy vey wuddaout anudda movie about a white guy getting his white gf stolen from him by an bbc african mandingo?
Anthony Walker
It really is tho. 80% of all billion dollar movies is capeshit.
Brandon Robinson
>someone expected Despicable Me 3, Pirates of the Caribbean and Transformers to do well.
lmao I could understand Despicable Me 3 a little. Kids and 9gag user seem to love these yellow idiots. But a meme has limited lifetime. except Bane ofc
Last Transformers only made some money, because people wanted to see, if its really that bad.
Pirates was already dead last movie, dont know why they should have expected more. They already had the dropping numbers.
Gabriel Evans
>Do people just not like the French yes, nobody likes the french.
Aaron Powell
>a meme has limited lifetime
it's a trap
Christian Gonzalez
Wtf! I live in the 3rd World and here a multiplex ticket cost like 5 or 6 US$, 7 or 8 if you choose IMAX or 3D, and for another $5 you get popcorn and a soda, wages are smaller than America's though
Jacob Wilson
>all quiet on the western front BUT ALL THE SOLDIERS WERE REALLY STRONK BLACK WOMYEN TAKE THAT WITE BOI
Xavier Hernandez
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Colton Green
its gonna bomb isn't it?
Ethan Ross
>more and more people pirate >"it's not like it hurts the industry"
Henry Bailey
Allegedly it's made most of its budget back on pre-sales.
I say allegedly because I don't know how pre-sales actually work.
Leo Kelly
This. I could go to a sushi bar and watch some movies on my phone instead for the money I pay at a theater.
John Stewart
Its sooner than you think.
The last 5 have been shit.
Caleb Howard
>Hollywood will die and so will the MPAA in your life time
What a time to be alive!
Parker Murphy
Hollywood is completely out of touch with true American culture. The best that they can do is leech off of the names of franchises from eras where our entertainment industries were united with America, i.e. Star War and pre-politically correct Marvel. Of course, they'll run those into the ground in time, too.
Jace Foster
looking to do acid my first while watching this, is this a good idea?
Parker Fisher
>indie revolution It only happens in spurts and when no one is looking.
Austin Green
>Going out on your first go
Yeah dude, good idea. Go clubbing afterwards too.
Grayson Clark
>no jack quest for eternal life >instead you get more orlando bloom memes cause that the reason that stranger tides bombed !!!! no orlando bloom!!! bring him back guys
Grayson Parker
>mexico get two movies tuesdays for 6 bucks
Mason Russell
This is one thing this movie got right on the fucking head. But then again the trend kind died off in the late 90s early 00, lord of the rings and harry potter kick started the more sequel movie franchise shit and marvel is keeping it alive.
The problem is that all the other copycats dont have the mass of existing GOOD lore that keeps those franchises alive and making money.
Ian Nelson
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Gabriel Peterson
WHO /THRILLED THAT ACTORS WILL BE LOSING MONEY/ HERE?
Juan Miller
>muh piracy
People aren't even watching movies anymore. Hollywood has become completely out of touch with mainstream culture (the media likes to act like they're the arbiters of mainstream culture; they vastly overestimate themselves in this regard), and these falling profits are the end result.
Jonathan Taylor
Make sure you talk to black people, DO NOT BE RACIST
Luke Reyes
Perhaps they could try not making shit movies?
Aiden Price
>lord of the rings I'd blame them splitting up the last harry potter book, hunger games book, and the hobbit, but not LotR
splitting shit up/drawing it out is what's really wrong here. See how long they've been teasing Thanos in the MCU, while we're at it.
Nathan Garcia
user? user? ANOOOOOON!
Carter Gomez
For the production company. They were able to sell the movie early and use that money to cover production costs. The distributers are gonna lose big time.
Gabriel Bailey
Harry potter and lotr going on for a while was not a problem. They had to drag out the films BECAUSE there was so much shit to cover. This b good. But imitators lack any of that and run out of steam fast.
Caleb Collins
Hollywood is going to completely collapse and outsource to Chine and India and there won't be a remake ever again.
Brody Phillips
I am a huge autist about transformers and even I could not make any damn sense of what was going on sometimes.
Matthew Barnes
There's a Cinepolis (Biggest Movie Theater franchise in spicland) 20 mins from my house and i still have no idea why they only charge 32 pesos per ticket, which comes up as around 1.50 Dollars, and 3D tickets cost 45 or 2.5 dollars. I thought the sancks were expensive, but according to you guys, they're dirt cheap. A combo with XL Popcorn tub, Nachos and a large soda goes for 5 Dollarydoos or 98 pesos.