Latin Americans: GET ITT

America is turning into her neighbors.

How do right wing parties still win in Mexico, Brazil, Colombia, New York and Long Island?

How do whites and the middle class survive politically?

You guys contradict the Denocrat's favorite meme about America's future.

"Gentle minorities and poor people will form an alliance with the elites and drown the reactionaries forever and ever. Progress will be unleashed and bring an enlightened utopia of social justice and gibs."

But that ain't happening South of the border. And you can tell us why.

Please help us. America is leaving its middle class heritage behind forever. I know you guys have a way forward because you aren't the ones immigrating here. We have nowhere else to go, so we have no choice to find a way here.

I think the temporary problem with Republicans is that they're too tied to certain segments of the white population. Remember Rato's comment about "New York Values"? Thats the kind of attitude we need to drop ASAP. If we're going to keep fighting, we need to find common ground with De Blasio's opposition in NYC. do successful right wing Brazilian and Mexican politicians go "herpderp we gotta fight them Sao Palo/DF values"? I don't think so.

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Just embrace it. The NWO is stronger than a bunch of NEET on Sup Forums.

Common guys. Contribute. I don't want mass suicides if Trump loses.

Hello fellow Westerner. Did you go to your local plaza today? How are the bars on your window holding up?

Nogs and spics reproduce faster than white. Once they are the majority, they will outvote the whites. Not to mention the whites that sympathize with nogs and spics.

So? How do middle class brazilians cope? If Trump does as well as the map I posted, liberals will be disturbed.

Build gated villas/communas/communities in isolated towns, live in expensive neighborhoods in the big cities or simply leave the country.

>leave the country

Not an option. Life will go on.

>build walls

Hmm. You might be onto something. But how do your wall building communities act politically? They have representation somehow.

The Spanish try to conquer us.
We fuck them and asimilate.
Then several europoors try to stabling here and keep nice white towns
Whe fuck them and asimilate.
The Sirian community
fuck and asimilate
The jews
Fuck and asimilate
There's is now a lot of gringos
All of them are under the foot of one of our gorgeous girls
And I am fucking all the tinder sluts I can.
Make love like war and you will never face a successful invasion.

We are not a federation anymore so there is very little we can do as far as laws go, politically speaking. We try to put in some politicians that might help us in a way or another, but they are all corrupt.

In your case, educate people and establish an agenda for your community, county, and state, and work from there.

Thanks for your input. But my question was how whites and the middle classes survive as a minorities in the Western Hemisphere.

Also leftists invaded all academia, so you have to counter that too. Schools, trade schools, technical high school, college/universities, etc.

>How do right wing parties still win in Brazil?

They don't. Brazil has no right wing parties. From an american point of view our "right wing" parties are all center-left, think Obama and Hillary.

Economics wise: the state being big and meddling its nose in the economy is consensus between 99% of politicians here, and for obvious reasons, it concentrates power in their hands after all. With that power they can become as corrupt as they want or drive forward their own political agendas, maybe even try becoming a 'saviour'. Latin american populism is a perennial river of votes, this has been the modus operandi of brazilian politics ever since the 1930's when the old republic ended with a populist coup.

Culture wise: we have a relevant 'christian' party in Congress, but they represent the worst facet of christendom, evangelicals. Brazil won't move towards liberal policies like abortion and religious gay marriage any time soon though, because the population is still very much conservative and catholic (think like 80%), voting for all parties. Even with the Worker's Party having appointed 8 out 11 of the current Supreme Court judges in the past 15 years, they haven't really made any disastrous moves, they recognized civil union between gay couples and that's about it. Having said that we are on a steady decline as it's impossible to stop the spread of cultural marxism.

>right wing parties
No such thing here.
The communists control all the dominant parties.

The problem here is the "establishment", all dominated by leftists, to fix it we have to occupy spaces one by one ostracizing the leftists in the media, education, government and in the politic parties like they did using the Gramsci's teachings.

>Mexico
>right wing

Mexico may have political parties with right wing tendencies (PAN) but PRI is something completely different.
Mexico is ruled by a mob. A mob who's organized by people trained in the finest universities of America. And with an useful idiot being the poster boy so the populace thinks we're governed by incopetent idiots.

At least these guys don't want degeneracy though. In the public eye at least. Everyone knows about their whore/telemundo cattle coke infested parties.

>how whites and the middle classes survive as a minorities in the Western Hemisphere

You cant, its in your genetics and culture to be soft and forgiving.

There is no such thing as true right win in Latin America. The meddling by the CIA irrevocably made being right wing taboo here. Idk about other Latin American countries but we have 2 main parties and they are both center left neoliberal parties economically. There are also close to 25 smaller parties, ranging from communists to fascists that collectively get 3% of the vote or so.

Oh and to answer the question, if you have money and are white in Mexico, it's pretty GOAT.
Yeah >Mexico >white and all that, but seriously Mexico is all about connections and as always, the higher the class you are, the whiter it is.

The difference between Mexico and America is that our chimpouts stopped decades ago. We have one or two every once in a while but the government uses the narcos to get rid of them.
Meanwhile, Obongo encourages niggers to chimp out, and somehow you guys are giving legitimacy to the Aztlan shitskin idiots.

Mexico has been a country ruled by the white minority since it was founded, you guys should start learning a thing or two about it since you seem to be headed that way.

Brazil bros help me out here please. Which state in the south has the least nogs?
SC?
Curitiba?
RS?

bonus round!
which city with a population of 400k or more has the least nogs?

Regarding the middle class: marxists in brazilian Academia are not shy to outright proclaim their hatred and disdain for the middle class. This is probably the most subversive and dangerous expression of cultural marxism. They claim the middle class is the source of the cultural and moral decadence of this country, that we are disgusting classless pigs, that the incessant and fruitless capitalist pursuit degenerates us as human beings, that we are worse than both the historical elite and the humble workers. It's a ploy to perpetuate the proletariat x bourgeoisie discourse into the new century, except causing even more civil unrest by pitting half of the population against the other while the traditional elites stay unnoposed.

Luckily, the middle class is the economic backbone of any country. In times of economic calm, the politicians tread on us as we are too busy attending our own business. But in times of economic crisis, we usually have enough power to trigger grave institutional crisis and have our concerns heard. And it's not only by protesting in the streets, among the middle class you have judges, federal police, government workers, bank workers, small industrymen, it's enough power to not only paralyze a nation but to outright meme its demands into existence. Usually a group of politicians will align themselves with our interests and gather enough force to remove the current power. This happened back in the military dictatorship and right now with Dilma. Sadly it comes with a breach of democratic values, as it's impossible to overpower the dumb red vote in a latin american populist country where voting is mandatory.

>Which state in the south has the least nogs?
Santa Catarina.
>which city with a population of 400k or more has the least nogs?
Joinville.

we dont have a strong right wing party. the left own the media and academia. people expect solutions to come from the government. the libertarian mentality is lacking here.

This is the troof.
Every major nation in South America was trolled by CIA. This includes Brazil. The military coup there that manifested very shortly after the formation of what became the country's most powerful media conglomerate was not a mere coincidence.

Don't come here. There's only death here. We are you tomorrow.

Trolled? You mean liberated.

SC

probably Maringá/PR

Curitiba is not a state, but the capital city of Paraná.

>How do right wing parties still win in New York and Long Island?
Long Island here; White flighters are pretty conservative. The Island is very white and not Brazil-tier in the least bit

A good portion of Suffolk, Nassau, and Richmond counties are Republican

The rest of the city is pretty bad but whites are moving back in, and once De Blasio's out hopefully things will start to turn around.

In mexico there is barely anybdifference between the left and right wing.

On paper they are different but once elected, they all do the same shit.

Its all a ruse. Unlike in America where they fight to stay in power so they can change laws, in mexico they fight to stay in power so they can maintain their paychecks.

Their true arguments for election are promises that they will actually do SOMETHING once elected.
It's pretty sad.

I also find that a lot of my fellow mexicans like to criticize American law and politicians yet they are way worse off.

They talk trash about U.S. police forces and say that they might live in worse conditions than Americans but at least they aren't scared of getting shot by police for no reason, yet in mexico police are MUCH more corrupt, they use lethal force MUCH more, and state sponsored death and violence are incredibly higher.

There really is no hope for a people who are too prideful to admit their faults.

States: % Whites (2000)
1. Santa Catarina — 89,3%
2. Rio Grande do Sul — 86,5%
3. Paraná — 77,2%
4. São Paulo — 70,7%
5. Rio de Janegro — 54,7%

Cities: % Whites (2000)
1. Blumenau (SC) — 95,1%
2. Criciúma (SC) — 91,9%
3. Joinville (SC) — 90,8%
4. Caxias do Sul (RS) — 89,5%
5. Florianópolis (SC) — 89,4%
6. Itajaí-Balneário Camboriú (SC) — 89,2%
7. Santa Maria (RS) — 86,2%
8. Porto Alegre (RS) — 85,8%
9. Ponta Grossa (PR) — 84,7%
10. Mogi Guaçu-Mogi Mirim (SP) — 84,4%
11. Pelotas (RS) — 83,3%
12. São José do Rio Preto (SP) — 83,1%
13. Rio Grande (RS) — 82,6%
14. Limeira-Rio Claro-Araras (SP) — 81,7%
15. Curitiba (PR) — 81,4%

I'm too lazy to dig out the latest data but it hasn't changed too much, there hasn't been any big inter-regional immigration movements inside brazil these past couple decades.

My fellow countrymen did a good job already, but I'll repeat just to make sure you'll believe.

Brazil has no right wing. The pseudo conservatives here are about social values, not economic value. Meddling with the economy is the absolute rule, there is no alternative here.

Here, the criminality problem is bigger than the race problem because, Brazil doesn't have as much niggers as you think. They're most mulatto, and it's important to remember the difference. Moving here is the most stupid thing you can ever do if you're a working class citizen. The government is working against you all steps in the way, and there is no end in sight.

Bolsonaro, our political meme, it's just a silly meme. The only thing he got right is his values, but he's as ignorant economically as the rest of them. We're basically hopeless, stay away.

If you're rich, though, there's nothing to worry about because private security can make this hell look like Miami.

SC I believe.
Interior cities of PR too.
Curitiba had massive migrations from other states of Brazil in the last decades, so it's too not white anymore.

Muito obrigado.
Every now and then I pose a question like this and the answer almost always seems to be for SC. I always personally felt like RS would be the way to go but that never seems to be the case.

>Joinville
had a quick look on the wiki. Looks pretty comfy. Will have to look into this some more. Again, thank you.

Stay in RJ

puta merda... I'm sorry, my burger ignorance got the best of me momentarily. I swear I knew that Parana was a state but I temporarily confused the two in my head. Thanks for correcting me.

>Maringá
> Whites: 76.5%
> Mulatto or black: 19.6%
>Asian, native and others: 3.9%
meh...
Still a better ratio than my current home, though.

wow, nice! Thanks!

SC and PR
SC- italian + germany culture
PR- Polack with minor Italian and german

RS is the sweden of Brazil

Blumenal, Joinville, Chapecó... some SC middle sized cities

Abraços
t. Barriga-verde

Thanks. I'm keen on input from urban whites in America.

Do you think Republicans could become a national party again by allying with people in cities? Will gun control be a stumbling block? What is it about the current Republican Party that keeps it from winning majority white states like Wisconsin and Maine? I suspect Mainers and urban whites aren't motivated to vote conservative because the party ignored stuff that would get their interest.

Search for "Vale europeu" in SC. Comfy small cities

Unlike São Paulo, Rio Grande do Sul and Paraná, Santa Catarina is the only south state which only recently started to rise in GDP and become rich (the others have been rich for over a century now), so the niggers from the north avoid it because they couldn't leech off the government there.

I'm from São Paulo. I'm talking from personal experience from when I went to Joinville (I went to three other cities in SC and Joinville is the whitest of all of those three).

>(((whites))) are moving back in to the city

Seriously, every actual white I know is moving out once they get their degree. Once I graduate college I'll be moving out as well. I'll have a degree in Economics and while that may he helpful in NYC I'd much rather be able to afford a house in a white community where I can raise children

turismo.sc.gov.br/destinos/vale-europeu/
Those are -25K cities

Dunno what to tell you OP. I think we're pretty goo here, but it's been two decades and a half of mostly leftism after Pinochet an it's starting to hurt a bit. I expect (or rather, I hope) that we see a return to the right so we don't become like our neighbours.

I've seen some people who used to be proud socialist and they're starting to get fed up with the students' shit.

Yes, all of them are great.
The only problem is the fed gov. trying to send haitians, but they are leaving

>There really is no hope for a people who are too prideful to admit their faults

I think middle class America has this problem too. We need to admit that America really is different now, and that a new approach to conservative politics is needed. But when people like Ted Cruz thinks he can go "muh New York values" and not be seen as a jackass it shows that were still in denial.

New York and the other big cities are future of the country in a way. Politicians need to react instead of staying in denial.

RS has the gaucho culture (rugged cowboys, barbecue, yerba mate, the pampas) which is pretty based but they are huuuuge leftists. They are not that bad though.

Florianopolis (pic related) is pretty white, SC's capital, beautiful beaches, a technological and service industry hub, top 5 safest cities in Brazil. But it's

Cowboy culture in SP is better than RS.

Come to SC, white men! I came straight from Rio to here. It's like paradise, almost no crime, nice people and beautiful women.

Cowboy culture in SP is sertanejo culture. Only the shit aspect of it.

RS gaucho culture is the gauderio culture, goes beyond the music one

I live in the rodeio circuit and ITS FUCKING GARBAGE.

>cariocanigger in SC
GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>what is Barretos
It's the most American cowboy you can get in Brazil. Not to mention the Confederados in Americana, SP.

>Make love like war and you will never face a successful invasion.
Poetry.

Where are your Cowboy dogos?

BR has no right wing party, m8

Literally every party is either extreme left, standard left or center-left.

Soon enough, we will have no right wing politicians as well

yea this
the island is also 1950's tier segregated in most parts

That's a tiny pupper. Check out this big woofer.

Things are pretty good here, but Bachelet and his left shitshow halted economic growth, chances are the right will make a return and get the money train back on track

Can't get any more American cowboy than Barretos, SP.

Where did you get this graph? In br, we use red for socialists and blue for the "right wing"

Lmao I'm from SP too and worked in Joinville for 16 months from 2013 to 2014. Joinville is the darkest city of SC no contest.

Your pupper is also cute, but he is not wearing pants!

her left shitshow*

Venezuela's collapse is doing a lot to serve as a warning against socialism in South America. But I doubt you guys care about Venezuela, so the best red-pilling would be the collapse of countries like Germany and Canada.

Still, don't be afraid of changing your platform as long as it is built around what you would consider the core values of the right. Republicans and Democrats have already changed their platform 3-4 times to suit the need.

>Caipiras
Is this the /whitebrazil/ general?

It either changed from the last time I went there or you went to the wrong places.

Puppers wearing pants is just silly. Pants-on-head silly.

I'm not caipira, though, I'm just being factual.

Please do, I want to go back to the home country and not find it to be a socialist paradise like Venezuela.

Yes, Satan

yes, and american cowboy culture is garbage too, except now you are copying it, industrialized and glamourized degeneracy to entertain the white trash masses

if you don't have experience raising, herding, butchering, barbecuing and eating a cow you are no fucking cowboy

Wtf? Sao Paolo is whiter than my city?

Hmmm, I'm skeptical.

Do you even know Barretos history? Lots of American immigrants and ancestry there that do exactly what you said.

>Do you think Republicans could become a national party again by allying with people in cities?
The only way I can see this happening is if Republicans cleaned house like Giuliani did

>Will gun control be a stumbling block?
Yes, though the anti-gun hype is based solely around Democrat propaganda

>What is it about the current Republican Party that keeps it from winning majority white states like Wisconsin and Maine?
I can't speak for New England or the Midwest, but here the labor unions have become so disgustingly large. You cannot insult the unions in New York, your political career would be ruined.

I'm 90% sure the mafia moved from street crime into white collar crime. Unions like the Teamsters are notoriously mafia-owned. These unions donate terrifyingly large amounts to the government and to their Democratic cronies. The State can barely get anything done; road projects here take 15 years and sometimes decades to complete. The problem with New York is the bureaucratification of government and the fact that the mafia has infiltrated the highest positions and skims money out of the state budget.

As much as I abhor Californians and Midwesterners moving here, I'd rather hipsters than niggers. If the fucking rent wasn't out of control and the government wasn't SJW-tier stupid, the city would be a nice place to raise a family

Kek, there's a subsidized housing neighbourhood in my village we call "Little Harlem". Outside of that there're no blacks in the entire school district

not anymore

only rodeos left

and sertanojo

The city of São Paulo is pretty mixed, but overall the state has a very white population.
>t. Zona Oeste

Colombia is not right wing fa.m. it's center-right which isn't what you're looking for. Also, the middle class is growing and people from the upper class do just fine. Thay live in upscale neighborhoods or even low middle class neighborhoods to keep a low profile. Race here doesn't mean shit as there are rich and poor people from all races

The approval of Bachelet is something like 13%, she ruined the chances of a lefty candidate getting elected for a couple years so it should be easier for a right wing candidate to get elected, who will probably be Piñera, expect the country to get back to the days of economic growth but have a lot of protest by the youth

That's the state of São Paulo, not the capital.

>How do whites and the middle class survive politically?

We are fucked constantly every fucking single day.
You can't kill what is dead.

são paulo state, mind you, not the city, lot's of iberian and italian immigration here, our regional accent even carries a bit of italian flair

anyway I live in the 14th entry in that list and I don't ever see mixed people unless I go do something downtown

can't remember the last time I saw a full blown zulu

Sorry for accidentally diverting your thread a bit so here's my contribution.

I live on the East Coast south of the Mason Dixon line in a very influential but smallish (by global and American standards) city. I can tell you that there is quite a bit of stigma when it comes to voting Republican in our cities. The hypocritical egalitarian mentality espoused by the media is partially responsible for this but the problem is actually more complicated than just blaming 'the liberal media' since it's not very liberal to begin with.

A deeper root cause is probably education since at least the 80s, and probably a decade or two before then. As kids, we were taught US History for the better part of K-12, and what is a central theme taught repetitively throughout this time? Aside from the Revolution and shit from the late 1700's, the focus was heavy on slavery and the Civil War. This plants the seed of white guilt which, in and of itself, is a polar opposite of Republican themes. Now, this teaching mantra is common throughout all American schools, but is less so in private ones. Private schools, particularly the religious ones, tend to have more conservative parents sending their kids there.

>Things are pretty good here

Why are Brazilians always shirtless

We're not. You're thinking of northeasterners and cariocas.

At least here in the south we are chilling, I hope Bachelet leaves soon so we can be saved by Piñi

Because they are uncivilized monkeys.
It's disgusting whenever I see some monkey shirtless in the streets. I'm never shirtless by the way, only in beaches.

because it's more difficult to catch a thief if he is shirtless, nothing to grab on, slips easily into the crowd

if you ever visit brazil be mindful of anyone

1. without a shirt

2. with a hoodie despite the hot weather

Sup Forums the thing is USA is a meme country
Here in south america we are nationalist and that's why our blacks are not like your niggers.
Peru developed a nationalism when it lose the war against chile, chile did it when salitre was worth shit, ecuador when it lose against peru and the list keeps on and on.
USA should have developed on 9/11 but it didn't last
All South america has one clear goal that's becoming a first world country

Why despite being shitskins like you call us we are growing as a country?
It's because we all are working towards that goal leaving our differences behind

>Because they are uncivilized monkeys.
Aren't you brazilian too?

(cont)
Despite private schools having more conservative kids starting out, not all of them are going to stay conservative for many reasons. Another hot topic that I forgot to mention earlier was WW2, the 6 gorillion, Japanese internment camps (a few times you might hear about this in high school), and similar social injustices. Usually Stalin and his actual holocaust isn't mentioned but never mind that. In fact, you won't hear much about leftists committing atrocities unless your teacher is a risk taker. You might hear about Pol-pot, MAYBE Mao. Anyway, combine the holohoax with slavery being repeated ad nauseum at least every other grade school year and what do you get? Serious white guilt.

Colleges and their scientists enforce a very fascist form of complacency known as peer review. Now, there is certainly a need for fact-checking and consensus for theoretical proposals, but what I mean by this is how they will shun academics who do not follow the status quo. This is probably how the Intelligentsia of the Northeast stays blue - if you do not encourage or spread the seed of liberal guilt, you will not remain a happy professor for very long. This can help to encourage the idea that Republicans are dumb and it CERTAINLY doesn't help when you have rednecks encouraging this stereotype (although it should be mentioned that the media does amplify this particular one above all other American racial stereotypes).

>Here in south america we are nationalist and that's why our blacks are not like your niggers.
>Peru
You population is nigger/Bolivia tier though

I am
was talking about the shirtless ones.

>We are nationalists
Speak for yourself, most brazilians are aware and won't renounce their brazilian background, but absolutely hate the country and would leave as soon as they had the chance.

>most white brazilians
Fixed. The niggers love it here, and the whites liberals love it with the niggers.

Guys I'm sick of all the cucks who are going to defend the following:
memritv.org/clip/en/5604.htm

Would it be a smart thing to take my stuff and settle in Latinaland?

It's either american cowboy copy culture or gib medats funk culture, choose one.

If you have a degree and have some money you'll live comfy for the rest of your life, climate wise you'll probably enjoy the south more
Stay and fight for your home tho

If you're looking for a climate similar to Belgium, go to Peru, Ecuador, Chile or Colombia's Highlands. Anywhere is a good option and those situation you showed are unheard of in this part of the world (not sure if for too long thou)

I don't think there will ever be a race war tbqh, at least not in the west. Muslims will just slowly start to seize more power. People with brains and money will move, cucks will get rekt and as usual the working class will be fucked

So you're saying Europe will be abandoned when Muslims become the majority?

You forgot Ushuaia, Tierra del Fuego , Argentina. It is the closest you can easily get to Antarctica as a civilian, too!

Of course argentinian patagonia is comfy as well but I would prefer waiting a bit until the argentinian economy stabilizes further

WE -THE MIDDLE CLASS- WILL NEVER SUCCUMB TO YOUR DEGENERATE POOR VS RICH DISCOURSE

LIBERALISM IS A DISEASE, BOTH LEFT AND RIGHT WORKS FOR THE INTERNATIONAL JEW, ONE WANTS TO "FREE" SOCIETY AND THE OTHER WANTS TO "FREE" ECONOMY

EVEN OUR WORKERS AND SYNDIES KNOW THIS

EDUCATE THE MASSES, MIDDLE CLASS REVOLT WHEN?

Incans>Aztecs
South American Natives>Mestizos

allday erryday

It's hot in here