/PTG/-Publisher-tan General

>What is a Publisher-Tan?
An anthropomorphic personification of a publishing company.
>Why are you making these?
Because we are autistic and/or bored.
>Why are they all girls?
Japanese -tan tradition. But we do have some boy -tans too, like Diamond-kun.
>Where is the gallery for all the images?
publisher-tan.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=all
>Where is the pastebin for all the ideas?
pastebin.com/n0xR9Zgb
>Previous threads?
pastebin.com/Gv7LCxZ4
>How can I help?
If a publisher doesn't have a personality yet, then you can suggest ideas for one.
If a publisher doesn't have a design yet, then you can suggest ideas for one.
If a publisher has a personality and a design, then you can draw them.
If multiple publishers have all of the above, then you can draw comics of them interacting.
>How many publishers do we need?
All of them. This isn't a Marvel/DC project, so please don't focus on them.

Please do not respond to console war comments.

And last but not least, remember to have
>fun

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Damn dude, you start these at 4 in the morning?

I did a rough design for Wildstorm-tan in the last thread. Suggestions/criticisms?

I got watching High Fidelity after someone in this thread mentioned it last week as a model for a comic store run by tans, and tried to adapt some of the scenes.

DC: Liking both Alan Moore and Grant Morrison is like supporting both the Israelis and the Palestinians.
Marvel: No, it's really not, Deece. You know why? Because Alan Moore and Grant Morrison write comic books.
DC: Write. Write. Alan Moore is dead. His stupid magic cave collapsed on him.
Marvel: Wait, no it didn't, why would-
DC: SHUT UP.

Customer: Hi, do you have a copy of Charlie Brown and Friends? It's for my son's birthday.
Marvel: Yeah we have it.
Customer: Great, Great, can I have it?
Marvel: No, no, you can't.
Customer: Why not?
Marvel: Well, it's sentimental tacky crap. Do we look like the kind of store that sells Charlie Brown? Go to the mall.
Customer: What's your problem?
Marvel: Do you even know your son? There's no way he likes that comic. Oh- Uh, oh, is he in a coma?
Customer: Oh, okay, buddy. I didn't know it was Pick On The Middle-Aged Square Guy Day. My apologies. Ill be on my way.
Marvel: Bye-bye.
Customer: FUCK YOU.
Dark Horse: Nice, Marv. Really, really nice. That was just top class.
Marvel: Meh. Pissing people off brings in sales. Trust me, I've seen the numbers. Feels good too!

>I get by because of the people who make a special effort to shop here - mostly young men - who spend all their time looking for things like alternate covers and original, NOT recoloured -UNDERLINED- Year One and Killing Joke. Fetish properties are not unlike porn. I'd feel guilty taking their money, if I wasn't... well... kinda one of them.

>Self publisher has a tan like that makes any fucking sense
This is salted earth fuck you you faggots

There's my art quota for the day

I do something with this

What's wrong with it? The designs aren't set in stone, so if you have any ideas, feel free to post them.

Shouldn't Self Publisher tan be like Ermac? You know "We are many, you are one"

Yeah, I think some sort of hive mind personality could work for her.

Unless you mean appearance-wise.

Hive mind personality, or could do the "Which ever soul feels like taking over" type of deal

Completely irrelevant question with no hidden meaning whatsoever: what would Marvel-tan's favorite drink be?

Whatever drinks are in here.

Cyanide

First thing that came to mind are Cosmopolitans.

Please support our dying thread~

I was thinking their interactions could be handled like crossovers. Like they team up for these adventures or common goals. And it's kind of "WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE? Oh well, I guess we should just team up since we're both here." Or maybe they have a fight and then realize they're on the same side. Either way each little story consists of 2 to 4 tans and just kind of promotes team work.

But even though they are mostly doing their own thing and just occasionally run into eachother, what they all have in common is a hatred or fear of the Predator. He's come across them all at what time or another and everyone agrees he's shit. Maybe he's dated them all and or he's just an asshole that only want's to go hunting all the time and has this kind of redneck 'you can take my shoulder blaster when you pry it from my cold dead fingers' attitude. And is totally obsessed with his trophy collection (maybe the trophies are the tans panties). Or he could just be the carzy vicious skinning people alive predator we all know and love. But either way every Tan HATES him.

I would but I'm not in the mood today :^(

Actually, I've been thinking: instead of having a comic strip-tan, should/could we have tan for the comic strip syndicates (e.g., King Features and Universal Feature)?

>take an old nip concept
>run it into the ground
>try to do it all over again

Last thread had a whooping 57 replies. Take the hint, the fad is over.

You're not wrong. I just think DC and Marvel have fun designs, so I draw them sometimes. I'll probably still draw them once these threads die for good.

We need better artist like the ones from the Channel-tan thread, but we are doing our best.

I blame the lack of drawthread requests for that. I see channel-tan requests on there all throughout the week, but I have yet to see a single publisher-tan one.

For serious. both threads have the same content. why is ours dying?

You can't really claim that TV channels and comic publishers are the same content when most anons (hell, most people) can name three publishers at-most.

>I just think DC and Marvel have fun designs
They are shit

>anyone who wants to talk about shit i don't care about, please get the fuck out of here and stop shitting up our thread
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>where did everyone go?

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Dc-tans an alcoholic

She's led a hard life.

Let's be fair, a good third of CTG is the same two or three artists drawing CN butt and anons masturbating into a frenzy over it.

Gentlemen, we have a strategic butt gap.

Plus this, with a side helping of console warring and shitposting. Maybe it was genuine fanboyism, maybe it was someone deliberately trying to crash the thread (personally I suspect the latter), but what it boils down to is that the only ones anyone knows about are DC and Marvel and they're pretty awful at the best of times even without us getting involved.

As a side-note, as the user who suggested the Dark Horse pants, lookin' good op artist. Assuming that you're here, didn't you also do Image and Milestone?

Of course she is. She's not young any more, she's not as popular any more, and while that TRAMP from 135 W. 50th Street has the Mouse keeping her in style, DC's had to move out of her beloved NYC to Burbank, where nobody seems to quite know what to do with her.

Perpetual drunkenness and constant pining for the good old days is a pretty good explanation for some real-world DC's corporate decisions too, which is nice.

>drawing CN butt
I lurk their threads and you are right, but that was only on their first weeks. right now they are doing some good shit with other tans. meanwhile us... well, I feel bad.

I was kind of busy with other stuff this past week. Sorry I didn't do any thing guys.

Are Wildstorm and Image like sisters? Or they used to be room mates or something?

I am in fact here, just don't have much to contribute. Saw the thread and felt like I let you guys down.

Glad you like the pants, It was a smart choice.

I did do Image and Milestone (A couple of Milestones actually, though I feel like you guys chose the worst one).

>why is ours dying?
Sadly, at the crucial part of our existence, we argued and started company wars. No one wants to be around a thread, let alone a General, starts that. Honestly, it was over that DC Hat.

>right now they are doing some good shit with other tans.
What are they doing in there? I never really pay attention to what the CT threads are doing, weekends are pretty busy for me so I never really see them.

>It was over DC Hat

Oh i'm still laughing

Anons there are a lot more interested in discussing how the main tans would interact with each other than we are. There's also some worldbuilding around the media companies that set up channels (e.g., Viacom, Time Warner, Disney).

That's exactly the problem. They spent the first few weeks idolizing the main tans and developing other tans on the side, and once people started to get a little bored of the waifufagging they moved on to developing their side-tans more and having actual lore and shit. Anons in this thread however hated the idea of fawning over DC and Marvel and just wanted to skip to the part where everyone adored their non-mainstream publishers. They kept forcing focus on their tans and actively silencing discussion of the tans people actually recognized, causing most of the anons to leave once they didn't see anything they recognized or care about.

The company wars weren't even that bad! I mean yeah they weren't great, but if we kept hashing that out and developing it more, we could've ended up in a position that most anons were comfortable with and we'd have a core foundation to base the rest of the threads on. But instead, it was just "well DC and Marvel are bad, let's never talk about them again" and then what the fuck else is there to talk about?

They had this idea where Aku and Jack opened a sushi bar after their cancellation. Then years later their Toonami-tan being a big fan of them had the idea of save their shows, having a journer around their "universe" looking for then. Finally this happened. They also have this "dad" thing with the companies that own their channels. Hell, even the abusefag got something on the last thread, he also got bullied... with love and caring. There is more, but their previous threads are dead.

Someone in last Tuesday's thread suggested Wildstorm be Image's sister that never really grew up from the 90's-style over-the-top edgy extremeness.

judging from this pic
And these
Dc tan design should be completely different. Something like Hellblazer and Pandora put together

Wildstorm was a tumor that the doctors pulled out of Image after cutting her open. DC thought it was cute, so Image gave Wildstorm to DC to raise.

If DC feels limited by their kidsy reputation and constantly want to break free into more serious, important work, doesn't it make more sense that DC-tan is all cute and stuff? Of course people would take her seriously if she looked serious, why wouldn't they?

The company wars weren't that bad to be honest, but dear lord were some people assholes to the artists that we did have, and I couldn't fault them for abandoning ship.

Right now they're doing some cool shit with the owners of the channels(Like here) and bringing in Faustian deals and Eldritch Demons. They're also doing fics/Greentexts and comics of the characters too. Shit's actually amazing.

CT threads are a mix of Lore, Lewds and Feels.

Here we go again, tans should be cute. not serious and shit. they can do serious shit of course.

That sounds really interesting.

Marvel and DC wouldn't be considered [problematic] if they weren't causing all the problems, to be honest. They're still causing problems RIGHT NOW, in this very thread, even as I type up this post.

I had a thought that DC's appearance should be associated with her mood. When happy she wears a brighter costume. But recently her colors are dark and muted the more worried or upset she becomes. And her whole obsession with the hyper crisis is a metaphor for her looking for the times when comics were simpler and she was happier.

>her whole obsession with the hyper crisis
Sup Forums has an obsession with the hypercrisis. DC itself (I'm talking about the actual DC right now, not the -tan) ignores it. No writers ever bring it up, no editors ever adhere to anything, it's never part of any executive vision plan, nobody cares. I doubt they have any idea at all about what we get up to over here.

That'd be interesting, especially since Marvel-tan's mood and costume has always been shown as upbeat and cheerful.

We build up to the cute stuff but we should start DC tan at her lowest point

I also think Dc tan should have a twin because the whole Action Comics and Detective Comics stuff

Point to me what problems Marvel and DC are causing in this thread. From my perspective, the only problem Marvel and DC caused got aborted because anons were so scared of the big two ruining their thread that they shouted down all discussion of them and forced hype for publishers most anons wouldn't recognize. And now the thread is pretty much comatose because nobody cares about it anymore, because the people who might have cared got told to leave. How is that Marvel/DC's fault and how is that not everyone else's fault?

Instead of moving forward with what we already have, y'all are still trying to "fix" them by redesigning them, giving them new personalities, and in the latest twist, giving one of them a fucking twin.

DC and Marvel will never fully leave the planning phase because there's always someone who thinks that we made them wrong.

Again, if we're going by the fact that DC keeps trying to be taken seriously and failing at it, why would we give her a design that is taken seriously? A good visual metaphor for this situation is a cute girl trying to act tough and serious and people laughing because she's not at all what she's trying to be. If it's just a serious-looking woman who's trying to be serious and nobody takes her serious... what's the joke? What's interesting about that?

I fail to see how that's a problem. Maybe DC and Marvel do need reworks. They were kinda rushed to completion because anons didn't want to talk about them anymore and wanted to shelf them so they could move on to Image and Dark Horse and all that. Maybe if DC and Marvel were more detailed and interesting, anons would be more interested in this thread. Hell, I like where DC and Marvel are right now, but I'm not against discussing it more because that's way more healthy than "fuck you, you don't get to have input." Telling people to shut up is why despite this thread being up all day only twelve people have posted in it, and I'm pretty sure one of them is just me posting from a second computer and Sup Forums thinking it's a second person.

It seems, not just with DC but Marvel as well Or at least the "creators" there, they have this vanity or ego that prevents them from accepting others ideas or criticisms positively and instead just whine or finger point when they aren't received well. On occasion I swee a twitter or tumblr post and it's OBVIOUS they're here reading what people think. They just refuse to take any of the suggestions or give ANY merit to the complaints and solely focus on the posts that call them morons or SJW's and use that as excuse to ignore any other views on their work other than the positive.

DC's not retarded that's what Rebirth is essentially about getting these titles back on track into something that will sale. That's what New 52 was and that's what Hyper Crisis was. Large scale relaunches to increase sales. It's just that ego... or some concept of marketing that keeps them from saying we changed everything and overall it seems like it was for the worst so now, we're kind of trying to change things back. BUT NOT ALL THE WAY BACK, because that would be admitting we were wrong.

How are Marvel and DC still not finalized when they've had more discussion than any other publisher?

Maybe you all shouldn't have spent so much of that discussion on console wars, trying to make one worse so the other would look better (and vice versa). If we're lacking in people now, I honestly believe it's because so many of your Marvel-versus-DC and your DC-versus-Marvel fights were too toxic to handle.

>How are Marvel and DC still not finalized when they've had more discussion than any other publisher?
Because discussion only happens for like five seconds before some user like you shuts it all down. There's been a bunch of topics that never went anywhere because it was promptly followed by
>oh shit someone's talking about DC/Marvel
>let's get back on topic
And then segueing into Diamond or Milestone or whoever the fuck. Having discussion doesn't mean anything if it doesn't get to go anywhere, it doesn't even count as discussion at that point.

The thing is, I'm not shutting you down. If you want to talk about DC or Marvel, I am completely unable to stop you. What I am doing is being rude to you, being unwelcoming to you, and doing this in spite of the knowledge that you don't appreciate my negativity, and I fully acknowledge this and I don't try to deny it.

But as toxic as my behavior towards you is, that's not even 1/10th of the toxicity generated by Marvel-DC console wars. Tempers flared so high, feelings got so hurt, it's no wonder that people abandoned this project in droves.

Please don't try to pretend that there's no good reason for being tired of the DC and Marvel discussion, because I honestly believe that the fighting over them did more damage to these threads than anything else we've had.

So even if an user is discussing Marvel/DC politely and trying to genuinely be productive, you've already decided "Marvel and DC are bad and ruin these threads" and actively try to get anons who want to discuss them to leave because you think that anons discussing Marvel and DC are way worse for the thread. Even though your mentality has been in these threads ever since the second one and has only lead to more and more people leaving as you pin all of the blame on Marvel/DC making people leave and not realizing that you making people not wanting to discuss Marvel/DC is making people not want to discuss ANYTHING.

These threads are dead. They're already extremely dead at this point. We either have the option of trying to do things differently to make people more interested, or we can keep doing the same exact shit we've done for a while now and keep being upset that no one wants to play with our toys. The idea of "let's be a dick to anyone who wants to discuss Marvel/DC because it's better than the alternative" clearly isn't working. Hell, at this point I'm tempted to just go make a Marvel/DC-Tan general completely separate from the other publishers where the other publishers aren't allowed to be discussed, and just focus purely on The Big Two. If it devolves into a shitload of rage and arguing... well shit, that's still more discussion and shits given than the thread we have right now! That would still be an upgrade to our current situation!

I'm really jealous, but I have to admit they have good content.

>I'm tempted to just go make a Marvel/DC-Tan general completely separate from the other publishers where the other publishers aren't allowed to be discussed


That is the dumbest thing I ever read

>actively try to get anons who want to discuss them to leave
No, at no point have I tried to convince you or anyone else to leave.

My hope is that you'll stay, but that you'll open up your closed mind and learn that all publishers have value.

When I say that I have been "rude" and "unwelcoming" towards you, I just mean that I don't care if I hurt your feelings when I tell you about all the trouble caused for us by Marvel and DC fanatics.

>Hell, at this point I'm tempted to just go make a Marvel/DC-Tan general completely separate from the other publishers where the other publishers aren't allowed to be discussed, and just focus purely on The Big Two. If it devolves into a shitload of rage and arguing... well shit, that's still more discussion and shits given than the thread we have right now! That would still be an upgrade to our current situation!
Now THIS is what it looks like when you're trying to get rid of people.

And what it looks like when you're in complete denial of how bad the console wars are for us.

I noticed some color mistakes in art I've posted in previous treads, so here they are corrected and transparent.

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I know how to save us:

1, Cancel the threads.
2, Wait a month.
3, Relaunch as "Publisher-Tans NOW" and rake in the fresh OC.

It's not a reboot because none of the designs or ideas will change. It's just a forced relaunch because those always work at tricking suckers into buying more Marvel.

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>12 posters
BTFO

The "Sup Forums don't read comics" is not a meme user, so pls don't bully.

By the way DC is second best girl, Dark Horse is the best

To be honest I hope the next thread doesn't happen. It'd be better to end it now before it gets any sadder.

Sup Forums reads comics. They just read Marvel and DC.

>before it gets any sadder.
what do you mean?

Next thread, only 10 posters.

>dear lord were some people assholes to the artists that we did have, and I couldn't fault them for abandoning ship.

This was one of the main problems I saw. I also think the company wars were a bit overblown, and what makes me think it was mostly trolling was that a lot of the time the biggest complainers were asked if they had any suggestions and they just responded with shitposting. I also seem to recall that Marvel got the bulk of the negativity, and a lot of it was related to the movies that they make rather than the publishers themselves. It was a bit weird.

People are over-thinking this a lot more than the Channels because there's fewer pictures. The channels started in a drawthread and was sustained by the same couple of drawfags doing what was basically their OCs until it gained momentum. The same thing has sort of happened here with Image and Dark Horse because we've had one kind fag more or less developing their looks by themselves with input from us, and (in my opinion at least) they've both come out very successfully. That didn't quite happen with DC and Marvel. They nevertheless still came out pretty well though! The DC newsboy cap in particular doesn't make a lot of sense, but it's a cute, eye-catching addition, and we've got some really nice pictures like We just don't really have a lot of other pictures, is the main thing. The channels have loads, and most of them have fuck all to do with their shows, with the exception of the ones involving Nick and slime/sponges.

And this whole post is way too TLDR and pointless because I can't help with any of that, because I'm a shit artist and I'm not as confident doing stuff for DC and Marvel because I don't read much of their stuff!