The red pill

so everyone is thrwoing around the term "redpilled" without there being a real consens about what being redpilled is. everyone seems to just claim that he is redpilled to argument that everyone who disagrees is bluepilled.

so my question is: what is your definition of being redpilled?

my definition would be that you realized that the matrix, just like in the movie the term originates from, exist, except that it isnt a computer program (well it could be a computer program we are in as well there are some hints indicating this, but that isnt the focus right now), but a socio-psychological construct making us work for the elites only without any improvements for ourselfs without being aware of it turning us into slaves (instead of batteries like in the movie)
just like in the movie those who belong to the system will defend and fight for it (blue pilled people claiming everything contradicting the official oppinion is nothing but a conspiracy theory from some lunatics, and selling other people out to the system).

in that sense i believe we all are morpheus, the dreamer (morpheus is in old mythology the god of the dreams after all), dreaming of a better world, and to accomplish that going around and redpill others (share the informations we got) to eventually find the chosen one that will free us all, even though it probably wont be the chosen one, but an entire generation of them who gained the knowledge and finally are enough to use it against the system itself.

so what is your idea of the red pill?

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its just a term to understand the truth of matters.

if you're redpilled you are saying that you know the jews/and other elites control key things in the world and can create events to trigger them in their favor. that their goal is to weaken us to such a point where we can't go back and they can do whatever they want with us.

if you're bluepilled it means you believe everything the media and general consens of society tells you. its human to reflect on things and question them, also necessary to make progress. people have been led to believe that everything is true cause its already so embedded in society. The next step is to inflitrate scientific proofs to either silence them or change them to their favor (already happening to some degree)

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect."
Mark Twain

it's a chemo for dumb jews who ask too many questions

sage

It means knowing the truth, when the majority believes something different from the truth.

so i see our version dont differ much, if at all, but a lot of people claimed to be redpilled to shout around racist nonsense all the time, and i wanted to know if that the general consens here.
im a newfag and still trying to figure out the community here. so far i like it here and just ignore racist rants :D

the more you lurk here the more racist you will become yourself. Biology rules us all and if we don't abide by them it will hurt us (either ourselves or the ones around us).

Its not nonsense. Races are not supposed to mix. Only weak creatures tend to mix with other races to secure their offspring when they are in worse condition/scenario. we have led to believe that its totally fine to racemix, because the thought that we are all equal has been implanted.

If racemixing is so good, why don't the jews do it? why do they seclude themselves from that? Look at all the things the jews do and compare them with the declining west.

why does this not apply to nationalities?

'red pilled' is a pretty stupid term but to me it means being able to see the truth objectively. It has to come from reflection and a great deal of self-awareness, there is no point in trying to 'redpill' another man, it will never work. Women become red-pilled via osmosis in a relationship, they literally cannot think objectively without guidance and handholding.

I see a lot of people claiming to be 'red pilled' getting angry about the way the world is going but if they were to truly to look at the world objectively, they'd see that we are powerless to the ever cycling nature of the world so there's no point in getting upset.

Just quietly gain knowledge, have fun but not too much, live your life for small pleasures but don't take your eye off the big picture for a second because if you do you will forget how insignificant you are and will be sucked into the black hole of narcissism.

the chosen one that you will "find" to free us all is actually the realization that we're all the same person experiencing reality subjectively.

>im a newfag and still trying to figure out the community here. so far i like it here and just ignore racist rants :D

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Obviously.

Here have some book recommendations so that you can redpill yourself while you can' lurk.

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there is nothing wrong with racemixing, it is bound to happen. what i wrong is the forced and accelerated version of the racemixing we are going through. usually a familly or two would come over from the middle east to europe, and if they aren compatible with the sociaty and culture there they are froced away. if they are compatible they will eventually mix with the locals and wont harm since they are compatible with the people. right now we import millions of them without any controll and thus even those not compatible ultimately will mix with us leading to our downfall. i dont deny the differences of different races, every race can do and cant do something the others can/cant. some cultures may even arent compatiblewith each other and cant live together, but in general i believe that when it happens naturally racemixing would be even good. we get small pieces enhancing our culture everytime. but right now we get so much "cultural input" it will overwrite our culture in no time and we will lose all trace of us

Sure are a lot of German OP's today, woo, bank holiday there is it? Or something else? Don't take the bait anons, move along

A nation and the corresponding borders are a man made construct. It can be destryoed and rebuild anytime with ease. Your race however can be destroyed without reversabilty. The things which can be destroyed beyond repair should be of highest value. After all, purity is highly valued all over the world and (((they))) want to tell you that it is a different game with your genes?

The most precious thing on this world are your own people.

>Revolt against the modern world
>Men among the ruins
>Ride the tiger
>The World as Will and Idea
>The Ego and it's Own

Is my recommendation for introductory reading, to set a foundation for furthering knowledge. After that I'd start reading Nietzche, starting with Aphorisms on Love and Hate.

For a long time "redpilled" on Sup Forums strictly meant you were Jew-aware.

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>watched Will & Grace when it was released as a blue pilled normie and laughed

>watched several episodes of it again recently and noticed a shitload of cancerous agendas and subtle and not so subtle brain washing

>1984
>Brave New World
>no The Running Man
It's very much in the same vein. "Free" television used to control the masses, mass media manipulation of facts to turn the public's opinion, and the titular game show being used to remove anyone smart, fit, and mean enough to fight back.

>The most precious thing on this world are your own people.

at which point someone stops being one of your people? 0,01% difference in dna? 0,02% or when his skincolour alters from your a certain degree? or does he have to be born in the same region like you? and how close? 100km? 50km? same city?

i see each and everyone who is a decent human being as "my people". i dont decide it based on their origins, but on how they behave.

I wouldn't limit myself by focusing on philosophy first/only. Knowing the history sind the english revolution is also very important. In addition, only reading one topic can become tiring, so mix it up.

Especially the truth about WW2 will be a major redpill if you have no knowledge about it, or rather, only the public education/brainwashing propaganda.

Regarding the current situation in germany, "your people" are all the germans whos parents lived within germany before 1950. You can also add the foreigners (caucasoids, which includes also arabs) which completely removed non german culture from their lives. I.e. there are turks which you'd think are german because you can't see a difference. There are also mixed people that can count as "your people", i.e. one german parent.

Also "your people" goes beyond borders, i.e. Austria is also "your people" for germans together with parts of switzerland. And lastly, don't forget our brothers to the north west.
Race mixing must be kept low.

Why are you trying to black pill us?

My idea of the redpill is that you escape dreary reality and move to Zion.

So I'm gonna pack my bags and emigrate to Israel!

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I suppose I'm just speaking from personal experience, I read philosophy first then turned my mind to history when I had better developed critical thinking skills.

Although, I'd agree that having a broad understanding of History before starting any kind of serious study is important. I just think it's pointless to go into any depth with any traces of a normie mindset still in place.

It just means "knowing the truth about something" watch the matrix for fucks sake

im half kebab, half kraut, (racemixing already in full force i guess) so it is a bit difficult to define "my people" demographically or geographically. thats probably the reason why i believe being one of "my people" is more about the right mindset then origin. i agree the current version of the racemixing is wrong (as i said previously) it just overwrites all of our culture and social standards and eradicating all of it soon without a trace. im against that as well as everyone else.
but imagine a peacefull world without any hidden agenda. would you still think it would be bad when some familly from a country moves somewhere far away to live there for whatever reason. and since they arent ignorant assholes they get along with the people in the country they moved to very well and eventually the younger ones of the familly find eventually a hot woman/man and mate with him/her. i see nothing wrong with that, since like said
>A nation and the corresponding borders are a man made construct.

and thus those shouldnt hinder people going around the world. but people going around the world ultimately will lead to racemixing.

i dont know, i would have to know what the black pill is first to know why i am doing it

> half kebab, half kraut

Opinion voided. Fuck off you mulatto subhuman.

red pill: the acceptance and pursuit of the truth and all its' implications, regardless of any discomfort or hardship it will bring

see, thats the racist nonsense im speaking about, many here engaged an objective discussion, but suddenly everything i said is nonsense simply because im not "pure".

Why does Pol always have to believe in some conspiracy like, are they so desperate to justify their pathetic lives that they blame others for it?

>many here engaged an objective discussion

You can't be objective because you are a kebab rape baby.

why do people believe in conspiracies when talking about mafia and organised crime, but as soon as the government is involved in any way its always nonsense instantly?

>but imagine a peacefull world without any hidden agenda. would you still think it would be bad when some familly from a country moves somewhere far away to live there for whatever reason. and since they arent ignorant assholes they get along with the people in the country they moved to very well and eventually the younger ones of the familly find eventually a hot woman/man and mate with him/her. i see nothing wrong with that, since like

What you described is the liberal utopia, basically "real communism hasnt been tried". It is just that, a fantasy. The more redpilled you become, the more you will further drift away from mindless ideals that can't be achieved.

>and thus those shouldnt hinder people going around the world.

Sound great at first but one has to take other perspectives into account. The human actually wants to stay "home". People which move away are a minority. This means many people staying at the same place create a community. They don't have defined borders but a nation state can develop, i.e. the organization structure for that community.

Now this community works towards sustaining and improving itself, making sure their children become well integrated, get education and jobs later on. If you have free mobility for the people, then suddenly outsiders come, not part of the community. While they may want to assimilate and contribute, they still are a competetion regarding jobs for the natives. Thus, everything has a downside, just like low wage workers are literally fucked with the current refugee crisis.

One can argue that communities won't form but what is left then? The next smaller structure would be the family. And then you have family against family.... the devide and conquer increases. The building of a community usually comes by default over time.

A community can survive a certain amount of foreign influx. The thing is though, why are places on earth so shit that they want to move anyway.

They are supposed to protect us and guarantee our safety mate, mafia just wants your head

And when will this moving be stopped? When everything is liteterally the same? When there is no need to move somewhere else other then seeing a different kind of mountain or tree? That would be one hell of a dystopia for me.

Thus, having destinct nation states with their own ethneties and cultures, working together in union would be the best solution. People would have their homes intakt, their cultures and races intact and you'd actually have diversity that doesnt get destroyed, unlike today.

apparently being redpilled means acknowledging the jewspiracy. Sucks because I agree with the majority of pols sentiments but the tinfoil alex jones shit is not doing it for me.

this is what they aim for. A person like you have basically no purpose in being proud of something that is part of your identity. its nullified. so the only option you have is to somehow validate that racemixing is good to make yourself worth something again.

im swiss-colombian myself. so im not saying this to hurt you or anything. its just what (((they))) aim for. they want us to all be racemixed except us, so they can control us easier as a mass. there is no purpose in being racist towards others atm cause they are not responsible for what their parents did. but they are responsible for the racemixing they can do, so it should be prevented.

Now this community works towards sustaining and improving itself, making sure their children become well integrated, get education and jobs later on. If you have free mobility for the people, then suddenly outsiders come, not part of the community. While they may want to assimilate and contribute, they still are a competetion regarding jobs for the natives. Thus, everything has a downside, just like low wage workers are literally fucked with the current refugee crisis.

that is when the racemixing is artificially accelerated into one direction. naturally, without any involvement, only a few will come, but a few of your own will leave as well. that leads to distribution of knowledge and technology. people will come and go and usually there should be a balance at some point. naturally it wouldnt be thousands or even millions endlessly streaming into your community without anyone leaving. thats when the problems occure

>They are supposed to protect us and guarantee our safety mate,

Top fucking kek. Who told you this, mommy?

Emperors and monarchs maybe thought like this and some dictators, but most importantly, it is about control, either gaining control or staying in control. This is what socialism is, gibsmedats to numb the masses. One tool for control. On the bright sight, it looks like that with socialism, they actually care about the people... lol.

The most important goal in the current democracies are staying in power and working for corporate interest as much as possible, because when your companies are great, you have lots of jobs. In turn, wealth is available, people are happy and you dont have any riots.

Guaranteeing your safety is rather low on the list of priorities of our leaders. They dont give a fuck, why would they? When someone dies because of a terrorist attack, they only care about the media outrage because the public might think the government lacked the skill for protection, i.e. they question the power of the government and might elect somebody else.

From the view of our leaders, there can die as many people as can possibly die in our countrys as long as nobody notices.

government is nothing else than the mafia with a better PR campagne. the mafia will give you advantages and protection and even money if you help them, or give protection and stuff if you pay them (work for the government or pay taxes) if you dont obbey they sant there goons to fuck you up (the police) and for beef with other countries (mafias) they have the military. i dont trust people giving birth and selling guns to terrorist either the taliban or isis, when they say "we just want to protect you" seeing about how they lie about everything else

Not sure if this helps, but Mark Passio does an interesting presentation on the occult meaning of the Matrix trilogy...
youtu.be/JvKEwr0iNA0

>but a few of your own will leave as well. that leads to distribution of knowledge and technology.

In todays age, you don't need the movement of people to distibute knowledge and technology. This is not needed for nearly 200 years already.

>usually there should be a balance at some point. naturally it wouldnt be thousands or even millions endlessly streaming into your community without anyone leaving. thats when the problems occure

Even then, over a very long period of time (500-100 years), your races will be mixed so far that you've lost everything in the end and you have destroyed what cannot be repaired.

You are so blue-pilled it's hilarious. Jesus christ, get off the ride whilst you still can.

The definition of red pilled is accepting an uncomfortable truth as opposed to believing a convenient lie. It comes from the matrix where neo can either choose the blue pill, to accept the lies and stay in wonderland or else he can take the red pill, accept that his world is false and wake up in the horrific world outside

Being red pilled is just a metaphor for gaining the absolute ability to view your own existence from without rather than within, minus other idiots' biases. It's nothing mysterious or unknown, some people are happy enough letting other idiots tell them what is true, and other people aren't and want to set those other idiots on fire and then put them out by pissing all over them from a great height.

yeah, i know the example is a bit outdated. but other cultures have good parts as well, not only your own. and they bring a positive part of there culture over to yours wouldnt that be an improvement as well. isnt trying to stop all racemixing trying to stop progressing as well (biologically)? your computer gets new parts from time to time as well to make it better, cant that happen with culture as well? (again in a natural scenario, not that forced crap) in the end you have replaced every part of your computer, but its still yours and it became better.
>this is what they aim for. A person like you have basically no purpose in being proud of something that is part of your identity.

but the thing is that way i identify even more with other people around the world and feel much more connected to others. i believe part of the reason all the wars for profit are only possible because they only see their own people as important and "those sandniggers in the middleeast surely deserve all the bombs we drop there since they are nothing but wild savages" and thus just accept the war. i see those people as my own and recent every single war

>"everyone seems to just claim that he is redpilled to argument that everyone who disagrees is bluepilled."

perfect example:

>You are so blue-pilled it's hilarious.

Read this:
This is the only post you need to read ITT. There is no logical argument for racemixing and you are still trying to debate it, that is why you are blue-pilled. You are trying to justify your own half-breed existence by mixing your insecurities with politics. Politics has nothing to do with you, you are irrelevant. Your personal struggle or lack of cultural identity is irrelevant. What matters are facts and objective truths.

Being red-pilled is just thinking objectively, that's literally it.

>and they bring a positive part of there culture over to yours wouldnt that be an improvement as well.
Anything they bring in changes your own culture. The thinking that it will only be positive instead of subversive is naive, especially when people want deliberately infiltrate and subvert your culture.... THE KIKES.

>isnt trying to stop all racemixing trying to stop progressing as well (biologically)?
No, there is enough genetic diversity available. There are some inbreeding in arab lands and with the jews but they literally fuck their own family or cousins. In addition, you don't need new genes to advance evolution. With time, the genes will adapt to the surroundings but this process takes thousands of years.

>your computer gets new parts from time to time as well to make it better, cant that happen with culture as well?
Of course it can. But improving your culture/laws should be done from within, not by importing foreign shit. Lmao at the computer comparison. Of course with technology, you'll only get improvements.

>in the end you have replaced every part of your computer, but its still yours and it became better.
I actually never replaced parts, only bought entirely new computers the I put together myself. Thus, I see every computer I have owned as a different entity and seeing the old one would give me a complete different set of feelings (no homo)

>that way i identify even more with other people around the world and feel much more connected to others
Yeah, this is what (((they))) want, connect with anything but your host nation/ethnic. Also I highly doubt you feel connected to indians or chinese.

>i believe part of the reason all the wars for profit are only possible because they only see their own people as important
This is true for the old monarchies pre 1900. At that point, everything was hijacked by the big capitalists and they run the show and governments basically. Now it is about control through the monetary system or resources.

i dont even try to justify my existence. i am here, i try to make the best out of it. i dont try to identify with any culture whatsoever. i identify with my beliefs and the people i like and that like me. but fact is humans migrated all over earth and mixed with other people since the beginning of humanity, totally natural and we progressed and progressed and evolved even further. and suddenly its supposed to be bad? again, i dont mean that artificial mixing they are doing right now, i speak about the normal mixing that would happen without any agenda

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Being red-pilled means that you develop rational thinking and learn ways to select information accurately rather than falling for baits.

>Anything they bring in changes your own culture. The thinking that it will only be positive instead of subversive is naive,
isnt thinking all change they bring is bad is pretty pessimistic?

>No, there is enough genetic diversity available.
enough doenst mean more is bad. of course there can be too much, but we can controll who and how many come here after all and thus we should also be able to at least steer the changes in the right direction

>Of course it can. But improving your culture/laws should be done from within, not by importing foreign shit. Lmao at the computer comparison. Of course with technology, you'll only get improvements.
for your computer you will of course pick the better parts, but you are implying there will be no controll whatsoever. you can chose to only let the "good parts" into your sociaty

>I actually never replaced parts, only bought entirely new computers the I put together myself. Thus, I see every computer I have owned as a different entity and seeing the old one would give me a complete different set of feelings (no homo)
i understand that completely, still think about if my old laptop resents me because i gave him to my mom and substituted it for a new one =/

>Yeah, this is what (((they))) want, connect with anything but your host nation/ethnic. Also I highly doubt you feel connected to indians or chinese.
i feel connected with everyone who didnt proof to be a worthless piece of shit. wether they are german, turkish, indian or chinese. i mean i dont like the indian or chinese culture (from what i know about them) but still i believe there are decent human beings among them. i mean i dont feel chinese or like an indian, but i feel human, and they are as well.

to be continued...

>i dont try to identify with any culture whatsoever.
Basically the perfect liberal. Void of culture and ignorant of such. This will change the more you lurk.

> i identify with my beliefs and the people i like and that like me
Your believes good, other people bad. Make up your own mind, don't rely on others.

>but fact is humans migrated all over earth and mixed with other people since the beginning of humanity
Actually, most of this mixing was forced due to war, occupation and genocide. Barely any people migrated just because they wanted to. Especially since just migrating somewhere wasn't possible in relevant numbers even since before the roman empire. You had race mixing through rape, CANT PASS UP DAT PUSSY MAYNE.

>totally natural
If war war, rape and genocide is natural, then yes

>progressed and progressed and evolved even further.
Progress is the wrong word, we have just changed. Progress would imply that the change was always for the better, which is highly subjective. We changed society, advanced in technolgy but we certainly haven't evolved. This would take thousands of years.

>and suddenly its supposed to be bad?
It was always considered bad until 100 years ago. It destroys that which can't be repaired.

> speak about the normal mixing that would happen without any agenda
Thats the thing, "normal mixing" usually was not allowed in the societies in the past. Only when an empire completely degenerated and destroyed itself, mixing was allowed (especially with the fall of the roman empire). Mixing was dominant in nearly all past empires/nations that do not exist today, together with strong liberalism, influx of foreigners, womens suffrage and admiring actors instead of military leaders.

You'll come across a good 20 page PDF paper that will explain this in detail the more you lurk.

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>This is true for the old monarchies pre 1900. At that point, everything was hijacked by the big capitalists and they run the show and governments basically. Now it is about control through the monetary system or resources.
true, but they have to justify it in front of their people, and that is easier if the people think "we are the best god damn fucking nation on this planet and we are totally different from the sandnigger on the other side of the globe" instead of "we are all the same and we do nothing but bomb innocent civillians and bring misery over their people which are just like us"

That's the buddhist view that our selves have no inherent existence. In fact, we do have souls

>isnt thinking all change they bring is bad is pretty pessimistic?
It is but I never said all the change they bring is negative.

>enough doenst mean more is bad.
True, yet there doesn't exist a true logical argument why further mixing is needed.

>implying there will be no controll whatsoever. you can chose to only let the "good parts" into your sociaty
Yeah, if you are called switzerland or australia you have that luxury. Otherwise you are fucked. Or you are called africa and nobody wants to come to your shithole anyway.

>i feel connected with everyone who didnt proof to be a worthless piece of shit.
So basically "respect has to be earned". In my world, people that fall into that category barely reach double digits. Most people just seem to exists and strive for hedonism or nihilism. Most dont reserve respect.

>but still i believe there are decent human beings among them
Of course there are. But I judge the people individually and they have to earn trust/respect. Experience shows me to just treat people decently but don't repsect them, most of the time they don't deserve that.

>i mean i dont feel chinese or like an indian, but i feel human, and they are as well.
You seriously need to read into philosophy. It will completely change your world view. Saying "I feel human" probably wont happen after that. Though this takes time, certainly more than a year.

>true, but they have to justify it in front of their people
No they don't have to. Through precise propaganda people are fed a false reality. The public never knows what happens while it happens. And afterwards, nobody cares anymore. You'll see this when you read into WW1 and WW2, how we are only fed the winners propaganda story that also only the population of the winners side knows.

They create justification through propaganda, though it is just a completely fabricated reality which doesnt exist. And fabricating that is rather easy with modern methods.

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The redpill contains mind-altering facts. The most potent redpills transform your reality, and do so semi-permanently. If you can stand them, they will make you stronger. Some redpills are laced with poison so dont hold your nose and swallow everything you read here.

The DMT of redpills is Christianity. Buddhism is heroin. Islam is PCP. Judaism is crack cocaine.

i think we both can agree that there can be positive and negative outcomes the thing we disagree upon seems to be if its worth the risk.

i believe the problem is that you are too focused on the effects of that forced immigration.
>Yeah, if you are called switzerland or australia you have that luxury. Otherwise you are fucked
here you basically admitted that it can work. i agree it wont work with our current politicians/politics and even less with the rapefugees we import. but still i wont condemn the racemixing in general. i believe that each and everyone has the right to travel and see the world unless he screws it up by himself by being an indecent asshole. and if on that journey someone meets his/her love why should everyone reject it simply because he is from somewhere else? i know im speaking utopical here, but we agreed already that it doesnt work as it is now, so i have to switch to an alternate scenario. so what im trying to say is that i dont have anything against racemixing if it happens naturally by accident or whatever (at least i wont anytime soon, maybe i will come across information that will change my mind, who knows?). but the immigrationgenocide on the other hand has to stop

>here you basically admitted that it can work.
You should define "can work". Of course it works, the country still exists, economy is going and no riots.

Still, Switzerland and Australia have the problem that the bigger cities are multiculti and multi ethnic shit holes with rising crime. Especially the south west of switzerland becomes more brown every year.

>but still i wont condemn the racemixing in general

If it is kept to a minimum it doesnt matter, i.e. below 2-3% of the population mixed. This way your country will stay mostly homogeneous.

> believe that each and everyone has the right to travel and see the world
So you are not bluepilled, you are just a liberal/communist. On the other hand, everybody can do this, it's called "going on vacation". Doesnt mean though that you can settle permanently anywhere you want.

>why should everyone reject it simply because he is from somewhere else?
If you want to keep your community homogeneous, that would be one argument. It all depends on the amount and many other factors. Especially loyalty to your culture/race/parents... which most females today don't have.

>i know im speaking utopical here, but we agreed already that it doesnt work as it is now
Exactly, hence going into utopian views is usually a waste of time.

>i dont have anything against racemixing if it happens naturally by accident or whatever
Seeing into how the jews subverted the countries so that they fit their agenda, race mixing doesn't happen "by accident". Maybe for less than 1%. Even that forced propaganda melting pot shit in the USA doesn't work and people just dont want to mix. Hence you get massice ghettos and entire districts of the cities which devide into "whites", "blacks", "hispanics" and "asians". They usually want to stay with their own and want the rest to fuck off.

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>at least i wont anytime soon, maybe i will come across information that will change my mind, who knows?
Informing yourself about the difference in races, especially regarding IQ, should change your view. Also that mixed race children actually are more likely to have certain diseases and mental illnesses.

But you'll see that over time.... lots of time.

Going to bed now.

Knowing the truth and admitting it's the truth, despite not liking it.

>Still, Switzerland and Australia have the problem that the bigger cities are multiculti and multi ethnic shit holes with rising crime. Especially the south west of switzerland becomes more brown every year.
yeah, but i believe the problem there is the amount of the foreign input and the way they handle it. i admitted it being bad when forced or when it happens too much already

>Exactly, hence going into utopian views is usually a waste of time.
its not. its a good method to see if the problem lies in the theme itself, or in the execution

>If it is kept to a minimum it doesnt matter, i.e. below 2-3% of the population mixed. This way your country will stay mostly homogeneous.
this basically says you are okay with the mixing, just not in big quantities (what i already agreed upon)

>So you are not bluepilled, you are just a liberal/communist.
yeah, i would call myself liberal, in a sense everyone should be able to do everything he wants, as long as it doenst mean harm for others. this includes owning guns, drugs and mating with some chick from another race.

>On the other hand, everybody can do this, it's called "going on vacation". Doesnt mean though that you can settle permanently anywhere you want.
but why not? why shouldnt i be allowed to stay somewhere where i like it when i dont hurt or steal from anyone there?

>Seeing into how the jews subverted the countries so that they fit their agenda, race mixing doesn't happen "by accident". Maybe for less than 1%. Even that forced propaganda melting pot shit in the USA doesn't work and people just dont want to mix. Hence you get massice ghettos and entire districts of the cities which devide into "whites", "blacks", "hispanics" and "asians". They usually want to stay with their own and want the rest to fuck off.
not argue on that as i agree completely. maybe a bit simplified but correct

>Informing yourself about the difference in races, especially regarding IQ, should change your view. Also that mixed race children actually are more likely to have certain diseases and mental illnesses.
all i can say as i mixling myself that im physically fit and so far no deseases, but i know i cant draw conclusion from one case :D

however even if we dont agree it was fun having an objective discussion without starting to insult each other. didnt think this can happen on the internet :D

>but why not? why shouldnt i be allowed to stay somewhere where i like it when i dont hurt or steal from anyone there?

Becasue by going there, you take up resources of the people already there and you create competition for the native population, either competition for jobs or you "steal" a woman that might otherwise marry a native.

A group that protects their own, favors their own for survival, wouldn't allow this. And groups that don't favor their own, die out in the long run. It is about protecting and caring for your own as much as possible.

Of course, people are free to try as much as they want in settling somewhere else and taking the women of the native population. But they better don't complain if the native population hates them in return and drives them out of the city or burns down their house as a response. Or better yet, send you and all your people "to camp" ;)

Explain away the information at this link

slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2001/12/the_mosque_to_commerce.html

if the ressources are going to an end okay, then i accept that excluding every foreigner is probably the best course of action. but on this planet there is enough for everyone. people are only starving because of the wrong distribution of food. 1st world countries throw away about half of their stuff, if that would go somewhere else people wouldnt have to starve anymore. and from the rest we have enough as well. only thing we are probably short on are women thanks to one child policies leading to females being aborted.

what do you mean with "explain away"? what i got was some architect, yamasaki, liked muslim stuff in his buildings, designed the world trade center according to that, bin laden thought mixing capitalism and islam is kind of heracy and a false idol and thus lets 2 planes fly into there.