Is it be possible to resurrect social democracy? Can he pull it off?

Is it be possible to resurrect social democracy? Can he pull it off?

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Please no. When Britain last went left it destroyed the actually functioning socdem parties in Norway, Sweden, Finland and Denmark with their "new labour" shit. Maybe it's just best if the uk keeps on being a conservative, privatised shithole. If they become democratic socialist now they'll probably just make it some centrism with a human face, nonsense.

Socialism and democracy don't walk together

>Brazil and prosperity don't go together
Ftfy

NO. I dont know why anyone likes corbyn besides being a nice old man, he will ruin society. Hes pro-brexit, bolshevik sympathiser, 70s socialist.

Corbyn is good for my poor pockets, but bad for society. Neo-liberal labour is the best labour.

>workers democratic ownership of their workplace
>not democracy
democracy is socialism-lite, every free market meme economist opposed it

Is it be possible to resurrect social democracy? Can he pull it off?

European superstate when? I want power to be as far away as possible from the plebs.

t. remainer

>Hes pro-brexit, bolshevik sympathiser, 70s socialist
RULE BRITTANIA!

Brazil republic is a mistake

Venezuela is an example according to Corbyn

His party has been cancer since WW1, I hope he kills himself

Voted FOR ww1 ffs. Kautskyists can go hang.

If your country has libraries, police, hospitals and any quality government at all it never died.

Oh wait you're from S***ia, carry on.

This

Thankfully they are commiting political suicide as we speak

at this point every political party is socially left centre and beyond.

The only thing that makes political parties stand out from each other are taxes.

We need a jupiterean prime minister, not comrade corbyn.

I MISS BIG DAVE

Zeus was also into bestiality but it's there that the comparisons end

>UK
>Conservative in any way shape or form
Deluded

We can only hope.

No, socialism doesn't work.

Hmm yes, Britain with its magic powers forced you to shit things up?

Socialism doesn't work.

Excellent post.

samefag

yes
ever heard of influence?

Conservative are good because they force you to work. Life is difficult but that what makes it worth living.

I dont want to pay more taxes.

having a more social democracy means getting more support from the government, that means they have more control over you.

It makes it all the more painful when they decide to kick the crutches out from under you or the crutch snaps rather than letting you stand on your own two feet.

Comrade Corbyn will purge the Blairite neoliberal kulaks and make Britain Great again. WW3 will be a bizarro version of WW2. The UK will be the USSR and Russia will be the UK, a declining state. Macron is the new Hitler and Germany is the new France. Calling it now. BASED Corbyn will give us many big tanks to crush the frog menace!

the whole point of new labour was that it specifically was not socdem

if your country chose to abandon it's socdem approach in favour of new labour style centrism that is hardly our fault at all

>We need a jupiterean prime minister, not comrade corbyn.
this desu i'm just waiting for the british macron to arrive for the next election
big dave was a twat though

venezuela is a victim of slander from american media. the protesters are actually a wealthy minority, but the media makes it look like "the people" are coming together and protesting. the poor people, who enjoy higher living standards thanks to the ruling party, largely support it. but since western media don't believe in class anymore they just show a few rich people protesting, and then claim that it is "the people".

bit difficult. Macron's authority of government is more comparable to The Queen's rather than the PM's.

Basically PMs don't have enough power

Cameron failed as a leader by allowing THREE referendums about matters critical to the future of the UK to occur during his time as PM. Then he bailed the first time one of them didn't go his way. He was a little bitch who caved in to populists and didn't take responsibility for it. Can barely even call him a leader at all.

ah yes the poor people who have nothing to eat, no jobs and spotty electricity

can't believe you can be so deluded in 2018, venezuela is in utter shambles

Maduro has a 23% approval rate, how much is Telesur paying you? Also do you think it's the rich out there killing animals so they can eat? Anyone wealthy enough to leave did so a long time ago.

THIS
there can be no peace with bourgeois democracy

>Maduro has a 23% approval rate,
how do you even get reliable figures on that stuff in a state that's supposedly so undemocratic and repressive?

>inb4 they come from some sketchy american meme organisation run by venezuelan or cuban expats

>venezuela is in utter shambles
le humanitarian crisis

>venezuela is in utter shambles
yeah, and supposedly sweden is on the brink of collapse. yet I don't see all this supposed violence going on, despite living in a low-income neighbourhood with many immigrants. really makes you think, huh?

Try again the data is from Datanalisis, which is based in Venezuela.

Charismatic autocratic leader when? Not trump, I mean someone like erdogan/macron.

I don't have a horse in this race, but I take offense on behalf of logic when you claim Venezuela is supported by the people, and then refute a claim to the contrary by saying Venezuela is repressing those same people so such data couldn't exist.

Yeah according to amazing sources like fucking Sup Forums and some guy's blog, which are totally as reputable as the all major news companies in the world which you can find countless articles (With pictures, would you like some?) they've written on the crisis in Venezuela.

>IT'S NDRRZIIIG

>all major news companies
the ones that talk about a humanitarian crisis in Venezuela?

Oink oink!

Most incompetent political leader in Europe SPD is committing seppuku just for a couple more years of minimal power.

Why is he so BASED lads?

no, building socialism through bourgeois parliamentary means doesn't work
don't go there they'll assimilate you
no lmao he's a meme

>order and progress

It might not be the right time for the SPD to do it, but a few years in the political wilderness can be better for a party in the long run than doing a deal with the devil. Take a look at the UK Libdems

>Muslims and 1984

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mummy may btfo

>no, building socialism through bourgeois parliamentary means doesn't work
this nigga gets it

>Ms Champion was told to quit the shadow cabinet after she wrote in The Sun: 'Britain has a problem with British Pakistani men raping and exploiting white girls.'
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>there are actually british """men""" who support this creature

>social democracy
>socialism
i'd brainlet post you but image uploads don't work.

the german SPD seems like a recurringly bad socdem party desu
then again i might just be bitter they refused to give us a cheap loan in the 1970s. we didn't need the loan, and the whole thing was a farce where devaluing the pound was an obvious and painless solution to the balance of payments deficit (followed by the policy Thatcher and Blair adopted - ignoring the balance of payments.), but none of that matters you should have been nice to us.

If the maintenance of full employment via aggregate demand management isn't government policy, it's not social democracy.

the libdems were unspeakably stupid
>do some research on what happens to the small party in a coalition
>"nick, we did the research and the big party always eats the coalition partner, unless we get proportional representation we're fucked
>"i see, i see... let's go into coalition in exchange for a referendum on a tweak to FPTP nobody wants"

He isn't. He's a dangerous cunt who supports terrorists and despots.

Social Democracy as a system has nothing in common with Socialism

tbf there are a few mutual songs, but that's about it.

>He isn't. He's a dangerous cunt who supports terrorists and despots.
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The queen has power? I thought she was a ceremonial figure.

Wouldnt the government just ignore her?

Yes it's very possible, just try it one more time, let's just apply it to the entire EU, let's have is spread to US.... Ooops they're all gone now. Well nobody saw that coming, we're not to blame.

no one can afford social democracy anymore

>no one can afford social democracy anymore
where did all that capital increased productivity go? it can't just have vanished into thin air

Major papers cover major stories. Even the pinko papers report on it with their spin.

>we could social democracy with debt at 200% of GDP in the postwar world
>but we can't afford social democracy now
cannot fathom what makes people believe this.

did they report that there is no humanitarian crisis in Venezuela?

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>muh
Kill yourselves.

Another amazing counterpoint from leftypol. How do they do it?