Spider-Man Homecoming Thread

So let's actually talk about the movie. There are threads dedicated to Rotten Tomatoes score and racist shit but no thread for actually discussing the movie.

Did you see it? Let's talk about it.

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I liked it.

>car license plate
>SM2-0563
>Vulture's first appearance was in Spider-Man #2, May 1963

Kino.

Too much around tony stark, spiderman was supposed to be a boy that learns how to be a hero without any help, that's what made him fresh character even though there was already teenager heroes like Robin.

For fucks sake Tony made his suit wtf was that.

I wouldn't have a problem with Tony making the suit if Peter was the one who designed it.

>Civil War
>"I'm Spider-Man"
>"Not in that onesie"'
>"I'm working on that"
>Peter shows Tony a drawing of Spider-Man's intended suit
>Tony surprises him by making the suit

So easy to solve the problem. They weren't even trying.

I actually really liked it, more than i expected to.

I really liked the part where Peter sees his reflexion alongside the Spider-man mask

OK

>being billionaire
>simple "no" from awkward teen stops you from getting what you want
>you havent been manipulating every angle
couls this have been hinting at demon in a bottole

why was rudy downey jr shaking so much in uis scenes? drug induced parkinsons?

It was shit.

Getting really tired of these constant capeshit movies.

>where Peter sees his reflexion

retard spic likes MCU, shocked.

he literally appears for 10 minutes...

I loved that they weren't afraid to include some of the more goofy stuff from the comic's history. I especially loved the underarm webbing.

Saw it, liked it.

Not a big fan of spidey being in MCU though, too much Stark and Avengers stuff already and this is the same universe that has the guardians and that Ego guy from guardians 2.

Everything about it feels very young, very much oriented towards kids and selling those kids toys.

>spiderman was supposed to be a boy that learns how to be a hero without any help, that's what made him fresh character even though there was already teenager heroes like Robin
It does happen to a degree, but not 100% solo like it usually does. I agree though, but there was probably no other way to include him in the cinematic universe this late and still have it make sense. You could also argue that they tried to avoid making the same origins film that's already been made twice, so they skipped showing his solo street phase, and the film implies there was one.

Vulture was genuinely cool.

I wonder how much of a mess Infinity war will be with their 30 characters on screen scenes.

also camrips when?

It was terrible. The constant references to Tony and the Avengers were too many, also the final scene was completely fucking retarded.

stay in your generals

Literally the FIRST lines of dialogue in this damn movie had SJW bullshit in it

I fucking hate Jews.

This person has not actually seen the movie.

WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

What were the first lines?

The Vulture was talking about drawing cowboys and Indians as a kid and this guy corrects him saying "it's Native Americans actually."

wow fuck that bullshit man FUCK non whites

FUCK THIS MOVIE

GRRRRR

holy fuck not seeing this shit now

making mj into a negro is pretty racist desu

I agree, they should have made an experimental arthouse kino classic with the most popular hero in the world instead of trying to tie him in into their billion dollar franchise, what a dumb move on their part.

Yeah, you haven't seen the movie.

Tony is barely in it, and his entire purpose in the film is to show Spider-Man that he can be his own kind of hero and not rely on The Avengers.

Lol is that it? You're such a crybaby user.

>Let's talk about it.
OK. What did you think of Spider-Man as a trans-gay person? Yes, that's a real thing.

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Sounds a little forced since the character is just saying what the name of that game was actually called. But I don't see it as too big of a deal.

It's nice to see some street level heroics with all the doomsday plots dominating superhero films lately. Shame he'll have to face Thanos so soon.

Imagine getting angry over this.

Shit, I didn't mean to say game because you said he was talking about drawing cowboys and Indians. My brain went in a different direction there.

I liked the movie. It had its problems and Tom doesn't quite feel like Spiderman yet, but some of the jokes were done so well that I forgive it.

They already did art-house kino with Spiderman 2. They have a different tone with this. Still open to kino down the road

Exactly what I'm worried about.

There are worse parts, the gender fluid negress talks about how she can't admire the Washington monument cause it was built by slaves. Also there's a part where he/she plans on protesting in Washington and a teacher says "protesting is patriotic." They literally don't even try hiding their agenda anymore.

well that sounds incredibly forced

That makes the guy correcting him sound like an obnoxious twat though, which makes the line anti-SJW.

>Marvel
>anti-SJW

Pick 1

Oh my god I'm never watching this movie now. How dare them do that? This is awful.

Keaton was pretty good

he says it in a defeated manner, in a "wow, ok" type of way. he doesnt say it in a fully supportive way

Just saw it. So May knows or she thinks he is just a retard?

Peter's A.I.'s voice sound so fucking hot.

I got a boner every time she talks

Who cares? Nobody is actually going to see the sequel to this shit.

literally the best spiderman and MCU movie yet

probably the best superhero movie yet

Vulture is also probably the greatest MCU villain

>"you know peter, since the beginning of the movie you blew up a store and almost killed its owner because you took the time to make witty jokes about the criminals, you exposed your friend to potentially hazardous radioactive materials of alien origin, you almost killed your friends in an elevator because of said material, you almost sunk a ship full of people in it because you are dumb, you almost became famous for making the new 9/11 because you messed around with an airplane in midflight. but it's okay because you took out this particular bad guy by the sheer power of luck so welcome to the avengers"
What did Tony Stark meant by this?

bold statement

Who the actual fuck gets angry over something like this?

paid statement

he meant "well it's been 2.5 hours and we need to set you up for infinity war so here's a new suit!"

it's true tho

Those are some disgusting feet

>Nobody is actually going to see the sequel to this shit

Each time you say that it adds $1 million to the box office of this one

Shitty cam WHEN???

just go see it in theaters it's a great movie

and it's even better in IMAX 3D

U$1,00 has been deposited into your account.

It's fine dumbass, it's supposed to be stupid, this is the reality of your world now.

The Vulture was right, jews have to be exterminated

no uncle ben no buy

He is black tho

Things that sucks:
>no spider sense
>no uncle ben
>yes tony stark
>peter is a dumbass
>peter is really really dumb
>no wonder tony stark is in it, peter is so dumb he couldn't have thought of fighting crime by himself
>web shooting device; yeah, we know it's canon, but unless peter is a genius (he is in fact dumb), it makes no sense except if tony stark built it (but by then, who really is spider-man? if the fucking clothes do it all by itself, tony could have given it to anyone and the movie would be mostly unchanged)
>every chick is ugly
>every friend is boring or retarded
>"lol i am MJ and i'm so random lol"

Things that didn't suck:
>vulture

Final scene was Mary Jane and Peter on a rooftop in Queens, they looked out into the distance and said "You know Peter...we really have come home" then they kissed and the movie faded to black and said "Dedicated to Sam Raimi" it made me choke up a bit.

did everyone forget civil war? peter had been crime fighting for a while

youtube.com/watch?v=4J8CR7Qg4xg

Why do you lie?

Does the new suit in the end looks like Miles Morales' or is it just me? Are they really going to retire Peter so soon?

>Avengers set in 2012
>Homecoming 8 years later
>WTF??

Time Stone Involved???

If he called someone a faggot I would be fine. But BEING a faggot is an entirely different issue.

>unless peter is a genius (he is in fact dumb), it makes no sense except if tony stark built it
At least this improves upon the previous one, where peter built it by looking at youtube videos.

How do you miss the point so badly? Are you legit autistic?

It was pretty damn good. I did indeed like it.

Bridman was cool

Peter's girlfriend was hot

Good action but like every superhero film, too long

Better movie than Wonder Woman, no question.

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I really liked it.

why is flash a pajeet and not a chad
why is MJ mexican

THIS IS WHITE GENOCIDE

This is going too far, but it is my 2nd favorite spiderman. Probably the best Sony movie since Rami period, and the best MCU movie since Winter Solider. Too bad Sony's marketing is fucking shit

It was pretty good.

Suit-AI thing was unnecessary and takes away from Spidey's wit.

Character names were changed SPECIFICALLY to fuck with the audience. Unnecessary, but not movie-ruining. "Friends call me MJ" was a decent reveal, cause I like her, but still... why? Just don't use her name for a bit, would be just as well.

Liz/REDACTED connection unnecessary and kind of forced, but lead to one of the best scenes of pure awkwardness ever filmed, then immediately became irrelevant til the end.

Still, easily the funniest capeshit I've seen since the first Iron Man, and Holland did a fantastic job of bringing Ultimate-style Spidey to the big screen.

>all these people saying they liked it despite the huge amount of flaws that easily outnumber the pros
>"lol just shut off your brain and have fun"
It doesn't even come close to the standard Spider-man and Spider-man 2 set.

What was the biggest laugh in your theater and why was it Ned's line about porn?

SM2>SM1=HC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Infinity>ASM>ASM2

That gay asian who washed her hands in the bathroom.

Dude, it's better than the first ones.

Tobey McGuire was a pretty good Parker, but a shit Spiderman.

Poofy McHair was a pretty good Spiderman, but a shit Parker.

Holland did a fantastic job as both.

Plot was solid with good pacing. Included multiple badguys without the bloat usually included, and also managed to fit in Spidey-learns-to-Spider segments.

Funnier but less cheesy.

Reflects a youth environment WAY better than the McGuire movies did.

"What the fuck?" got a pretty good response from the crowd.

Otherwise, "Porn" was good.

Oh, and "Do you lay eggs?"

Overall Ned was a pretty good guy. Would hang out with.

They thankfully kept the teen drama to a bearable minimum

Michael Keaton was really good and the Vulture suit look cool as fuck. His motivation was clearly presented, his plans were not overly stupid (like Peter's), and he has some strong character moments. And goddamn did he look cool as fuck, perched up on things.

The entire side cast, outside of Tony and Vulture's goon, were terrible. Ned was endearing, but way overplayed and often insufferable. The Shocker was mocked, but we can accept that.

Speaking of insufferable, "MJ". Holy shit, what an obnoxious character. She showed up to make these weird, "I'm too smart and socially aware for this shit" quips. Sadly, she still had more character than the main fucking love interest.

The action was decent enough, but way too focused on Tony's tech, with barely any focus on Spidey's actual powers. Seriously, the amount of Tony's toys overshadowed everything except the webs. I don't care how long he's been at this, I have never seen Peter this fucking clumsy and useless. Not even "Go Web Go".

Uncle Ben not even mentioned, May just a "dude she's hot" joke.

They try to pay homage to the classic Amazing Spider-Man #33 moment where he lifts a huge amount debris off his back in order to save his aunt. Except in this case he's doing it to stop Vulture from stealing a plane, it's very poorly shot, and it comes after a really weird "MUFASA" moment involving Tony's voice and a puddle.

I liked it better than the Sony run, but it did a lot wrong. Vulture was by far the highlight, Tom Holland himself is okay, but the side cast was a fucking tragedy. MJ, in particular, with those odd social justice quips out of nowhere.

You know you can write more than 7 words in a line and more than 1 line in a paragraph without having to make new lines, don't you? Now, he was indeed a good actor for both spider-man and peter alike, but the writing and the plot wasted it all. 1st, spidey did dumb things all the time and the whole movie was him picking after his own shit one after another, and at the end being rewarded by not fucking it up too badly. Taking out spider-sense didn't help.

He should've taken the offer to be in the Avengers

That suit looked cool as fuck

I was fully expecting the movie to make Vulture too stupid to connect the dots during the awkward car trip but thankfully he wasn't.

It's reserved for Miles Morales or Infinity War.

> but unless peter is a genius (he is in fact dumb)

confirmed doesn't know shit about Spidey

Peter is a very smart kid.

Was spider-sense not in the movie? I thought his reflexes is implied to be spider-sense.

They fucked up pretty hard at the end. This was the only Spider-Man movie where the villain had nothing to do with Peter. It was just a bad guy. But nope, they had to tie it to Peter somehow by making him Liz's dad. Every fucking villain has to be his friend, friend's dad, girlfriend's dad, girlfriend, dog, neighbor, boss or whatever the fuck is connected to him.

What's next? Mac Gargan is his lost cousin?

>MARC WEBB ON FUCKING SUICIDE WATCH

damn, nice catch user.
>yfw they did a direct visual reference to pic related

>actually discussing the movie
it's capeshit. what's there to discuss?

He gets caught twice in the movie, which wouldn't happen if he had spider-sense.

I'm fine with it not being included for once.

What reflexes? He gets beaten up by a van.

He's also only been doing this for a few months by this point. remember, this is just after Civil War.

As a redman, white people need to fuck off with this virtue signaling garbage. Indian doesn't offend me, and I doubt it offends most other natives.