>I think human consciousness is a tragic misstep in human evolution. We became too self aware, nature created an aspect of nature separate from itself. We are creatures that should not exist, by natural law. We are things that labor under the illusion of having a self, a secretion of sensory experience and feeling, programmed with total assurance that we are each somebody, when in fact everybody's nobody. I think the honorable thing for our species to do is deny our programming, stop reproducing, walk hand in hand into extinction, one last midnight, brothers and sisters opting out of a raw deal.
Fucking nihilists dude. I mean say what you will about national socialism but at least it's an ethos
Benjamin Barnes
Meanwhile in season 2 >is that a fucking e-cigarette?
Logan Parker
What did he mean by this?
Hunter Smith
I love this board.
Hudson Adams
Every planet that develops intelligent life is destined to have a primitive species like man who is the first to wield the bare minimum ability to civilize the planet. That first species is destined to have so much in common with its recent ancestors that its behavior and the resulting civilization will be disgustingly primitive and eventually irredeemable, but it's still a necessary step on the path to another superior species that will create a civilization worth living in.
Congratulations guys, we're the single-celled life forms of civilized life. Everything that comes after us will be better.
Ayden Torres
We already have the head start on all the (earth) species that could possibly evolve into having civilization. Theres no way that if say octopi started living long enough to pass down knowledge and start their own civilization that they could surpass us since we'd be observing them from the start and would destroy them if they became in anyway dangerous to our own civilization.
That being said maybe some stupid hippies would influence us enough to encourage this species to surpass us.
Luke Kelly
Antinatalism is better
Logan Murphy
Thats not nihilism.
Adrian Jackson
Thats what OP's post is
Nathaniel Perez
We still don't know what lurks in the bottom of the ocean or on the dark side of the moon.
Xavier Garcia
No shit. That's why I said it.
Asher Young
The truth is, you cannot argue with this without deluding yourself. And human nature is to delude yourself and continue your life in a bubble.
Jonathan Hughes
Is this fedoracore reddit shit really the reason why this show is so popular? This is like a 16 year old's half-baked shower musings. I guess everyone here can relate to thinking their juvenile pontificating is somehow profound
Michael Carter
I feel like eventually we'll just have robots to do all work for us and we can all kick back, watch kino, and shitpost in peace. We, being the species, I mean. Our current generations and our kids will have to be wagecucks still.
Elijah Martinez
>the bottom of the ocean tube worms and tiny crustaceans. Maybe some extremophile bacteria deeper in the vents.
>dark side of the moon If they can't get to the other side they sure as shit aint very civilized
Austin Diaz
well... that's me convinced!
Nathaniel Hill
Hahaha robotic penis in my mouth
Noah Lewis
What do you find profound?
Luke Foster
Our replacements might be engineered by us (robots, genetics) or we might blow ourselves up and another species develops from the ashes.
Robert Lee
But we do now what is on the dark side We have satellite images
Luke Price
It's not at all. It's popular because of the uncommon setting, the great visuals, the interesting character development, and the memes. There's even some tits, ass, and a nice action sequence. The plot not so much.
Henry Lopez
Past a certain age, a man without a family can be a bad thing.
Brayden Lee
...
Noah Brown
Not this
David Cook
Could be Transformers
Jack Ross
Well, give an example
Jace Campbell
Didn't the writer rip this from something?
Ayden Turner
The whole "we know more about space than our oceans" is a big fat meme underwater explorers use to make themselves feel better about being 2nd rate explorers.
We know in fact jack shit about space, but we observe it a lot, as far as technology allows us.
The ocean? We focus on some interesting areas but the fact is that the ocean is a very uninteresting place, not much happens there, it's basically a giant graveyard, unless there is a hidden continent sized subterranean ocean under the ocean that we have no access to, we have technically seen all there is to see, yes new species are discovered all the time, but they are nothing actually new to the genus, just subspecies or variations, and it all indicates it's gonna be like that forever.
Brandon Price
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Connor Richardson
It's mostly all from The Conspiracy against the Human Race which also has a lot of other nihilist stuff in it too.
Gavin Young
>not much happens there >there are creatures that have evolved to live in other creature's butts and eat their gonads
lots of cool shit down there
Jackson Nelson
>ocean is a very uninteresting place well you blew all your credibility there dude, I've seen BBC Earth
Wyatt White
I like how any kind of discussion into human nature is now automatically labeled fedora by autists like you. You don't even know what it means, you just repeat it to appear contrarian and edgy, exactly what you lambast the fedoras for. So tell me, what specifically is it about Rust's quote that is fedoracore or reddit to you?
Juan Butler
It's a defense mechanism by people whose ideology or intellect is threatened by ideas they don't understand, pay no attention.
Adam Watson
>character gets away with monologuing because he's intelligent >Sup Forums dummies can't stand that they'll never be able to do the same
Cooper Martin
Literally nobody in-show liked his monologuing
Luke Sullivan
It was a real treat for me to see the pessimistic and antinatalist philosophy of people like EM Cioran, Thomas Ligotti, David Benatar, and Schopenhauer portrayed in a great show.
I was hoping other shows after True Detective would've been green lit to explore a similar worldview, but I haven't heard of any like that.
Thomas Evans
>he actually thinks any of the op's quote is profound. How about you read a bit? Broaden your horizons? then you will see what people are talking about when they criticize this teenage angst dribble. You are what happens when all you do in life is watch movies and masturbate.
Lincoln Howard
Most of the audience did though.
This is just more of that Sup Forums thing of trying to frame not conforming and sharing divisive opinions as shameful.
Kevin Foster
Which means what exactly? What he's saying is only wrong if you take it completely literally, but even then more of it is true that people here seem to want to admit. I'm not even advocating for the pessimistic aspects of this, but on a basic level it's silly to dismiss the ideas as juvenile when they are genuinely insightful on a certain level.
Idiots have just memed the idea that this is no different from the kind of shit the characters on Rick and Morty would say.
Ethan Ramirez
why haven't you killed yourself?
Carson Jackson
Time is a flat circle, man.
Camden Morris
He was right about everything. Humanity is a cesspool and creating a child is the most selfish and arrogant act possible. Hopefully our replacements take over the planet soon, we're not worthy of it.
Owen James
I lack the constitutions
Benjamin Parker
What was your opinion on the ending? Did you like how it ended on a happier note or did you want it to stay where it was? I'm right with you on your 2nd paragraph too.
Easton Sullivan
It's hard to write a character who is so bleak about life.
Isaiah Powell
>What was your opinion on the ending? I wanted Rust to stick to his antinatalist guns! But it was still a moving ending.
In my own idiosyncratic interpretation of the ending Rust does not, in fact, change his worldview. It was just the stress and the painkillers that caused that final moment.
We've used so many natural resources that if we were to wipe ourselves out tomorrow it's pretty unlikely there would be enough easily accessible coal, iron and oil for another species to start an industrial revolution
Jayden Cook
In the scale of time of evolution the earth can survive a lot. There has been 5 or more great extinctions. In some millions of years it will recover, but it might be pretty shitty for a while.
Jason Baker
>"are you fucking kidding me? dude like i can't even. j-just read a book" you just proved him right user.
Jaxson Cruz
t. Schopenhauer
Bentley Clark
I always thought it was odd that they talked about the light beginning by to win against the darkness but the last shot is a completely black sky
Jace Moore
>I wanted Rust to stick to his antinatalist guns! But it was still a moving ending. Completely agree. I still liked it though because even though he changed, or at least looked like he changed it didn't change the fact that they only got one guy, one small part of the entire thing and it's still going on. Really added to the hopelessness. They got their guy but that's still depressing.
Robert Smith
>implying this hypothetical other species would require fossil fuels >implying this hypothetical other species would make the same dumb mistakes we made
Grayson Torres
what exactly can you point to which tops this?
David Perry
lol your average zizek youtube video is more profound you moron.
Samuel Morales
Does anyone even talk like this irl?
Easton Ortiz
he is such a fucking philosophy babby it is not even funny
pic rel would have put him straight in like ten seconds flat
Luke Smith
I read that, very nice. But wasn't Tolstoy's answer to his existential issues just take a leap of faith and believe in God?
Matthew Hill
literally m'lady the show literally m'lady the character literally m'lady the writing
no wonder this rebbit colony likes this piece of shit so much
Grayson Morris
>calling total strangers morons for asking straightforward questions >thinks his definition of what is profound is at all respectable now
Eli Martin
I had thoughts similar to it back in high school, I think everyone did. That edgy phase that most normal people grow out of. Thats all I can think about when I hear people whining about how pointless life and existence is. Get laid. Get a hobby. Go outside. Live. Or just fucking kill yourself already so I don't have to listen to you bitch about everything.
Matthew Fisher
It sounds similar to the speeches Ivan makes in The Brothers Karamazov. Dostoevsky attacks this exact kind of thinking often.
Isaiah Lopez
It's not just 'believe in God', it's to live out of love of the world rather than fear. To be motivated by pure, unbound passion and love for God is the highest form of existence. It requires no reasoning or logic, only that you trust in yourself and in your heart that you are doing the right thing. To be a moral man, and to truly love God, is to remove the worries of existensalism. You will have lived a good life, and you will go to Heaven. Free will is merely a maze, and God's light is intended to guide you through it.
Jack Parker
kek, so much this. Like who the fuck would ever ponder their existence?
its fucking cringe as fuck dude go see the newest marvel movie, or get a hobby, watch some sports, fuck just get laid you losers. LMAO
Jordan Long
10/10 post
Ayden Young
To be fair you can find this kind of POV in a lot of modern pop shows. To the point that now Schopenhauer or Camus are reddit for Sup Forums standards I'm thinking Fargo, Rick & Morty, Bojack, Louie...
Jack Jackson
Thanks
Liam Bennett
>put him straight in ten seconds >just ignore everything dude, I am right
There's literally no way to prove any kind of deconstructive existentialism wrong in the face of the world, but I guess I'm happy for those who try
Austin Lewis
While I don't believe in some all powerful creator, I do believe that you should try to be a good person just to spread the love and positive feelings. Nothing bad ever came from being nice.
...I mean, unless you're JFK, Bob Marley or John Lennon. Then you get a bullet to your head for spreading it 'too' well.
Jeremiah Scott
I absolutely hate True Detective circlejerk threads.
Adrian Flores
I think his main point is just that people who attempt to make sense of something like that are usually miserable and depressed, so why bother trying.
Matthew Gonzalez
I think that's a good philosophy user
Landon Young
there are creatures that have evolved to live in your butt
Asher Wood
>nature created You call it nature. It's just fucking chaos. Alternatively this is all the conscious design of some creator deity, but more than likely it's just chaos.
Jose Gonzalez
Yeah easily one of the most annoying thing about some Christians is their bewilderment that you can have that mindset AND not believe in god. I went to some bible meeting thing in college as a nonbeliever (friends dragged me to it) and was asked by like 4 different people how that was even possible, where the sense of "right" comes from if not from God himself. As if you need to be super religious to have the motto of "Don't be an asshole". So I think that was honestly a good point by Rust in that tent scene of (paraphrasing) if someone needs the fear of God's wrath to keep them in line, they're a piece of shit. It's why I'm totally okay with Christianity sticking around for a while longer, because apparently some people seriously need the idea of God in their lives in order to be decent human beings.
Camden Thomas
>chaos Does it abide by the laws of nature? Well then it's not chaos is it.
Jayden Miller
>reads ligotti once fuck off pizza, you're a hack
Carter Hall
Nihilists just have brain damage.
Juan Ward
That's nothing like Schopenhauer
Carter Barnes
You would need a free market with massive automation for that to happen
Landon Martinez
>all of the most intelligent thinkers have brain damage
Interesting
Jacob Johnson
>most intelligent thinkers are nihilists t. brainlet Most intelligent thinkers have no problem constructing their own meaningful belief systems. Nihilists are people smart enough to deny religion but stupid enough not to construct their own beliefs.
Evan Diaz
Probably close to 0% of kids have those thoughts, exceptions being those who are both smart and underprivileged. It's more something you grow into as you realize more and more that life is pointless, horrific torture, not something you grow out of. Why do spergs like you default to this non-argument?
Gabriel Harris
If you're constructing your own belief system that means it's fabricated and thus meaningless. You don't seem to understand what intelligence is. If you can lie to yourself you're retarded.
Parker Campbell
Not him but zizek is a brainwashed pseudointellectual that delusional college kids listen to.
He doesn't even believe in evolution or human instincts. Like how fucking stupid did you have to be?
Brayden Kelly
The absence of belief in something does not render its effect on you null. For theists who view God as the source of goodness, your ability to do good despite your lack of belief is not due to some preternatural ability on your own part, its just that you deny its ultimate source. You can't do good without God, though you can do it without knowledge of Him.
Mason Thomas
PIZZA PIE
Andrew King
Why aren't we massively investing in life extension and immortality?
Luis Hill
It's not impossible, it's necessary
Austin Young
You create your own meaning, idiot.
What's meaningless is subjective.
I used to be a nihilist teenager just like you.
Oliver Peterson
The point of that quote isn't to project thought provoking wisdom onto the viewer, it's to paint Rust as a nihilistic asshole
Camden Wood
Zardoz. Immortality without something infinite to contempt (the Beatific Vision) would render all pursuits so insipid life would be indistinguishable from Hell.
Christopher Parker
t. Double digit IQ.
If you're creating it then it isn't meaning. The truth is that nothing matters and the "meaning" you've created is a lie. You don't realize this because you're stupid.
Jacob Jenkins
SOME SAY LOVE
Jason Harris
Only worthy people deserve life extension and immortality. The idea of some neet frogposter gamer mra living forever sickens me.
Jace Garcia
whoopsie. Contemplate, not contempt
Grayson Hughes
>fabricated and thus meaningless What is and isn't meaningless depends on your scale. Something meaningless to the universe is meaningful to your city. It's up to you to organize your priorities. If you want to tackle the world on a universal scale, there's meaning in that too. Pretty sure stopping the slow cold death of the universe is meaningful on a universal scale. So work on that, contribute a tiny little bit to humanity understanding that problem, that'll be your universal meaning.