Female doctors and religious decisions

I have refused treatment by female doctors in the past. I never justified it with anything, I just said "I want someone different to treat me." Female doctors are usually pretty bad at their job and can't listen - that's why I don't like them.

Should I have said "I am a devout Muslim, unrelated females may not touch me" next time? Is this more PC?

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Wew lad

>not wanting a hot female doctor to hold your balls and tell you to cough.

Sorry, but I will not accept that. How is it autist to want good treatment? I realize you are a Brit and only know the NHS, but I have lived in Switzerland, America, the UK and Germany and I tell you, outside the NHS you can find actually good doctors. The worst female doctors were in the US, the best in Switzerland. Germany is in between, but female doctors are still a lot more incompetent than men. For instance, I would never go to a female dentist. I want to use my teeth in the future.

Hot female doctors... what you mean is being a guinea pig for some untrained girl fresh out of med school who things smiling at you will make her incompetence any better?

There's two types of female doctors
>middle aged+ who are based bitches and hate all these retarded h1b outsource "doctors" because they have to do more work so people don't fucking die
>and I just finished my residency ditzy millenial doctors who made it into medical school on diversity quotas
t. Pediatric anesthesiologist

>mfw OP want a prostate exam from a dude

Females are capable of being great doctors the doctor rule is simple you go to a jew or an Indian everyone else is too stupI'd to be good doctors

Has anyone ever seen a black doctor? In real life, not TV

>>mfw OP want a prostate exam from a dude

Are you saying you want a prostate exam from a woman? Sorry, but I don't even think there are any urologists who are women. It's a man's job.

>go to a jew or an Indian
We only have Turks and Muslims Arabs here. We don't have any Jews or Indians.

And the doctors are usually blonde bimbos or old, retarded hags.

I saw sleepy Ben in real life once, does that count?

Doctors fresh out of med school are often very good especially if balanced out by some other doctors with experience.

African doctors are legit awful

I live in london and its nearly all pakis or African

>doctors fresh out of med school are often very good
Why do you lie? I trust the nurse more than the fresh skid

I only had one female doctor, once. She lectured me about how my illness was my fault.

I'm not lying. Go to a hospital like U of L and look how many young docs there are.

>Doctors fresh out of med school are often very good especially if balanced out by some other doctors with experience.

You kidding me, right? I got Crohn's disease. I haven't yet met a young female doctor who can take blood. They just literally can't. When I was in my twenties I was lenient, I thought "ok, let's let them try 2-3 times, then they will get a nurse" - but shit, no more, I see one of them young female doctor cunts, I say "no, thanks, get me a real doctor" - I don't want 10 minutes of "maybe I find a vein if I just poke deeper".

Okay fine you're only metric of judgement for a good doctor is how well they get blood.

>Go to a hospital like U of L and look how many young docs there are.
Young male docs, fine. My dentist is like 31 or so - he is absolutely excellent. My gastro is 38. Super dude, very clever, very good to talk to.

But women docs? Shit, I could talk to some Afghan illiterate refugee and get better treatment.

Oh so it's a women thing not a young doc thing

I don't agree with your assessments but whatever

>Okay fine you're only metric of judgement for a good doctor is how well they get blood.
That was an example.

They don't know how to read blood tests. They cannot communicate. They will not stop lecturing you after you tell them you had a disease for 13 years. They will want to do tests which make no sense, while forget about tests who make sense. They will ignore state of the art articles, and talk about treatment options from 1997. They can't do math - even the easiest math. They will ask you weird questions, rather than have a conversation. And they just cannot use their hands... imagine that, a doctor who cannot use their hands.

Sorry, about I have seen this in 4 countries over 15 years with nearly a dozen female doctors. I will not change my mind. There might be special snowflakes out there, but if so, they must be rare.

>Should I have said "I am a devout Muslim, unrelated females may not touch me" next time?
Looks at flag... You mean you aren't already a muslim?

My pediatrician in the early 90s. My mom said he was a lovely man who always put kids at ease and was a great doctor

>women are good doctors goy
>jewish doctors are best doctor

10/10 shilling.

>Should I have said "I am a devout Muslim, unrelated females may not touch me" next time? Is this more PC?

Of course. Religion is untouchable. Anyone can claim anything they want because of their religion, and people are forced to accommodate it.

The sharpest doctor I ever had was a woman. The qualifications are the same.

I hate to break it to you, but your mom got BLACKED

>You mean you aren't already a muslim?
Where did I suggest that? All Germans are Muslim now. You know that, I know that, even Turks know it. Stop shilling, Burger.

>diagnosed myself with umbilical hernia
>went to have the doc confirm this and suggest treatment
>she looks at me like I'm an idiot
>sighs
>Ok user, I'll examine you
>nope nothing wrong with you, anything else?
I ask her to book ultrasound at the hospital
>looks at me like I killed her cat
>ok whatever, fine.
>I wait a month for the appointment
>It confirms my diagnosis
>she won't see me now, gets another doctor to treat me.

I have had many negative experiences with non-white doctors. I had a full convulsive seizure when I was in my teens, and was rushed to hospital. It led to eventual brain surgery. I could have haemmorhaged and died. At the time, the A&E doctor, Pakistani, said it was a blocked nose. On another occasion I injured myself playing sports and could not walk on one ankle. After an X-ray he said the bone wasn't broken and to just leave.

>My mom said he was a lonely man who always put kids at ease

Literally read this as him being a child molester

I have encountered the middle age women doctors with chips on their shoulders and scowls on their faces who clearly dont want to be there. I alao believe it is wise to do your best to get a male doctor everytime, the science is out and women are confirmed sub par at everything.

i had to go to urgent care and had a black doctor. he was the fucking man. kind of looked like gustavo from breaking bad. straight shooter, picked up on my pain tolerance real quick (didnt keep asking "did that hurt" nor did he just start fucking going balls to wall) smart, funny, honest. made it so my copay was waived and everything went through insurance he was.

10/10 doc. I asked him if he would be my PCP but he says hes only really interested in doing urgent care stuff at this point in his career.

>NHS experience with female doctors

This is literally why I hate communism. Your story sounds just too familiar.

>trust the nurse
nurses and (most) PA's are the people to listen to when it comes to whats needed. I look to docs when anything substantial needs to be done.

I suppose you're right. The quality of fresh white male doctors is getting better while every other demographic is shit. It's an unintended consequence of make it more difficult for white males to get accepted and changing how mcats are scored so Stacy can feel special and get accepted to John Hopkins

Kek
At least that saves us the trouble of asking in the future.

i'd like her to examine my bone if you know what I mean

I had that happen once for a psychical in HS. I was underage so they needed other people to watch my balls being caressed so she didn't molest me. She was a milf and I had 2 nurses gawk at my dick while she fondled my goodies. I popped a boner and had trouble putting my pants on afterwards.

Hell none of my female relatives would ever go to a female doctor.

Asian male doctors are cool if they aren't one of those asshole types. Mine is a nice guy. Barely even lectured me about my chlamydia. I'd still rather have an asshole Asian than a female doctor any day.

Damn dude shouldn't have killed all your jews man, they make great doctors and lawyers and shit. haha, tough luck bro.

>Should I have said "I am a devout Muslim
Yes, all the time or you loose your head, such is life in the United Emirate of Europe.

>Algerian flag.
Inshallah, a fellow Muslim. How is life, brother. Are Fatima, Aisha and Surrelia well? Are they obeying you well? Are your black slaves behaving?

Here's a cold one for ya.

I've switched doctors plenty of times and I can tell you at least from my experience I had terrible experiences from both sides.

I had a middle eastern doctor that was knowledgeable but a piece of shit. He wanted me out the door as soon as possible and all my problems that are kind of hard to talk about he actually smirked at once and didn't take me seriously at all. Switched off that guy very quick.

Next doctor was alright, she was a younger woman and she did her job. Nothing special. I moved away so I got a new doctor.

I got an older woman who was a complete disaster. I had to see her often because the pharmacy never got refills back from her and her office never knew what the hell was going on with her. I don't even know how this could even happen. Thank god the pharmacy gives extensions to people that actually need medication.

Now I have a younger woman again and she's pretty good. She listens and she actually got me on better medication and off of two older meds that really fucked me up and were expensive. Only thing is that she's actually on maternity leave right now and the dude filling in for her is more autistic than I am at socializing.

It's a super mixed bag desu. I think you'll naturally have a prejudice for different sex doctors from bad experiences if you don't have many doctors in the first place.

I once had two rectal examinations by different women on consecutive days

The first one was a stunning 10/10 blonde, had no idea why she wasn't doing modelling instead and she was really gentle with my sphincter

The second one was a butch ugly af redhead and she fucking tore it up really aggressively like she was letting off steam, thinking i would think it was normal and not her being a cunt

not actually related but i just wanted to point out that ugly women are bitter as hell

Anal violence is the only language fucking white males understand, and it is never rape.

>North Arabia flag
Takbeer takbeer Akhi. Fatima is ok i only shoped off one hand, Aisha is all grown now 9 years next week, and how did you know about Surrelia? no need to tell me i shall stone her any way. my niggers got "rescued" by The Swedish Military, those pesky Swedes snatched them when i was pillaging in mongrelia(usa) and left their daughters in my niggers's place, don't worry I will go to Paris and hunt some more, How are you?

>He enjoys his anal inspection a little bit too much
>Goes back for another round
>They figure out and switch the doctor

>Takbeer takbeer Akhi. Fatima is ok i only shoped off one hand, Aisha is all grown now 9 years next week, and how did you know about Surrelia? no need to tell me i shall stone her any way. my niggers got "rescued" by The Swedish Military, those pesky Swedes snatched them when i was pillaging in mongrelia(usa) and left their daughters in my niggers's place, don't worry I will go to Paris and hunt some more
This is literally what is going on in Algeria.

>How are you?
Not good. Waifu is rebelling against Burqa, because she wants to be blacked from some Somalian refugee negro. Daughter refuses to marry Ali, who is a respectable kebab booth owner, even though she will turn 7 next month. And the government isn't getting off my back, calling me everytime to apologize for their behavior - they had sent me a letter to pay taxes, even though I explained that taxes are haram.

My doctor during my teens was a black mutt (obv black but with white features like light eye colour and well defined nose).
Very professional and knew his shit. One time he wasn't available and a white doctor attended me instead. Dickhead gave me an infection.

Learn to shitpost, neger.

I just realized now that Islam is just an excuse to stay away from women. If you MUST have exposure to a woman you make them wear hijabs so they cant use their sexual voodoo on you.

Dammit, maybe this religion isn't so bad.

>maybe this religion isn't so b...[BOOM]
user died in Cultural Enrichment Act before he could continue his thought

F

>Wew lad

Not really. I never made the connection but now OP mentions it ... I have to agree. Every time I received shit-tier care, it was a female doctor or nurse and the cute ones are always the worse.

I've had meh-tier care from males too but nothing as predictably bad as with women.

OP should only suck it up if he's at the hospital, then his responsibility is not to make a fuss, get treatment and get the fuck out as soon as possible.

>>and I just finished my residency ditzy millenial doctors who made it into medical school on diversity quotas

I'd rather get ass cancer than get treatment from some entitled cunts like this stupid bitch, humoring her ego and nasty moods all day just because I need someone to get me medicine.

youtube.com/watch?v=fw8vnMuKrGs

just imitate the leafs

Hearty kek

I remember the surgeon who was gonna do this procedure on me was called out of town on a family emergency and the new surgeon they got was a 5 foot 2 tall mexican woman with bad english.

I was so fuckign scared going under.
I honestly thought I was never gonna wake up.

They absolutely hate when patients come in and suggest what the problem actually is. Can't have the plebs undermining their monopoly

>tfw have pain in my balls
>go to doctor and they say user we can't help you you need to go to a nut sack specialist
>day of appointment
>literally 10/10 blond milf doctor comes into exam room
>oh shit, i almost pass out from how hot she is
>"user i'm going to be check your balls today, please drop don't your pants"
>every single nurse/doctor porno flashes before my eyes
>drop down pants
>she examines my nut sack
>my dick is literally shriveled up because she had cranked up the a/c
>before i know it the exam is over
>she asks me to pull up my pants
>then tells me she will have to run blood work and needs me to pee in a cup

How did you not get an erection?

>How did you not get an erection?
Virgins everywhere.

You don't get an erection at a doctor's appointment. I had nurses give me an enema, female doctors checking out my balls, male doctors doing the prostate check etc. - dick stays flaccid.

You get a fucking erection when you are with your wife, that's it.

Worked with a Nigerian Locum Consultant Psychiatrist in a substance misuse service for a bit and he was fucking terrible, had the most cold and aggravating manner with patients. Was like he was reading from a script of mental health symptoms and not actually talking to a person. The patients fucking hated him.

Tbh they're terrible. My step dad is a doctor and I've met some of the female doctors he's had to work by.

If you think that's bad, their lives outside of work are even worse. They make good money then spend it all and wonder why they aren't doing well.

From my experience, most doctors have been terrible. I have seen way more than most people (lots of conditions) but there's only one correlation I found. BTW what follows are the most standout examples, I've seen many many doctors.

British Asian (Indian, Pakistani heritage) doctors are the fucking worst. Every one of them I've seen have been utter pieces of shit. So so so fucking arrogant. I think it's because in their communities they're hot shit, so they let it get to their heads. They don't listen. If it's something they can't figure out straight away, they'll say there's nothing wrong with you. I've had multiple British Asian doctors tell me I'm making stuff up and kick me out of their office. One in his report even wrote in his report that I need psychiatric help. Years later the conditions were discovered by others. My mum was told to shut up by a GP, that she was just depressed and making things up (turned out she had TB). The two hospital consultants were male, my mum's GP female. All probably in their 40s, so not old, not young.

However I have had a few white doctors be just as bad. A white GP in her 30s who was just as arrogant, rude (and wrong). She was decent looking too, no need for her to be bitter.
Another whitey who stands out as being terrible was a doctor I saw privately when I was going nowhere with the NHS, I was getting desperate. ENT problem. Booked a one-off apt with BUPA. Doctor was an old (70s) arrogant South African male. Again, barely looked at me, said it was nothing, told me to get out. Only this time, I also got a bill in the mail. Bastard. You could tell he had contempt for me, probably because I was a lowly peasant paying for a one-off.

>tfw kissless hugless virgin
>tfw had my balls touched by a doctor

A female doctor completely missed my diagnosis of mono.

Wasn't even on the bitch's radar.

Kek

I mention my experience with British Asian doctors further up the thread:

Just to clarify though: I had a serious, potentially life-threatening neurological problem that required invasive surgery, and had had a severe epileptic episode. This doctor, however, said there was nothing wrong with me and that I had had a blocked nose. On a further occasion I had another severe seizure and was in intensive care with a brain bleed. What the fuck?

I can relate but I don't think it's a black-and-white issue. I live in a major city known for its healthcare innovations, and I have had many doctors in many institutions (America, lol,) and have suffered just one lousy doctor. Yes, it was a woman. But I don't think it is competency but rather temperament (she was east asian, too, Korean I think). She lacked the courage to diagnose, and instead kept me on the treadmill of ever increasing tests. Kind of like how women in academia shine at computation, because they're authoritarian robots, but suck at higher math and physics, because they're unreasonable.

...A couple of other thoughts:

- Young doctors, newly qualified are the best. Not because they're the most knowledgeable, but because they're the least arrogant, the most willing to listen and think and investigate. Across GPs, A&E doctors and consultants. Both male and female. As long as they're young and white lel.

- And the doctor I see the most now (for my rare ongoing condition) is a fantastic doctor. She's LITERALLY the leading world authority for my condition. And that's like a side project. The bulk of her time is spent on other conditions at Great Ormond St Hospital. She has multiple jobs, she must be superwoman. She's hot shit, and yet is so so super nice. To literally be the best in the world at what she does, yet conduct herself with such niceness and humility - it was really shocking for me at first. Must be because of her work as a pediatrician at GOSH, so she's saccharine sweet even to her adult patients lol. For me, she shatters any theories about women doctors being inferior.

Yep, I can fully believe it. Btw were they British Asian or fresh off the boat? Like I said, my experiences were with British Asians, I think it's a particular virus that affects them. A special kind of hubris.

Could not be certain on whether he was born here. I would also say that other Asian doctors were extremely dismissive and openly showed preferential treatment to Asian patients, ignoring me to talk to someone else in a foreign language during my consultation.

I knew someone who worked in the hospital too, in a menial role. He said it was a real eye-opener. Visiting Asian families would flock in droves, ignore visiting times, blocking the corridors, speaking once again in other languages with some being plainly unable to speak English, and generally making a nuisance of themselves. In addition, the patients had a tendency toward rudeness as well, and a general contempt for white staff.

my experience so far has been that if you go to a free market non-communist medical institution you get 10/10 service from everyone involved including the security at the door

a customer they wish to see return is always treated like a king, otoh a (nationalized health insurance) user is treated like a piece of shit although there are exceptions to this rule but they tend to be pretty few and far in between

I'm a girl. I wanted to get birth control pills a while back but had a fear of penetration. So I've never done a papsmear. The black Jamaican doctor said if I wanted the pills, I needed to do a papsmear. I told her I was a virgin and hadn't had sex yet. I just got my first serious boyfriend and wanted to make him happy. So I agreed. The Jamaican doctor basically raped me with her tongs while I screamed and cried. She was forceful and I think delighted in my pain. The white nurse stopped her and I went home with the pills. I never saw a black doctor again.

I don't think it's rooted in racism, because...
...spoiler...I'm Asian too.
(But I'm not typical. I speak with a proper English accent, not like an Asian. Well spoken, polite, not some rudeboi. Maybe that's why they don't like me lel.)

However I'm familiar with the dynamic you're describing too. I've seen it. Do you live in an area with a large Asian community? I think it's that desire to be the big cheese in their own community at play. Fucking disgusting desu.

...can't tell if elaborate role-playing bait or real...

Close to a very large community. Some garish behaviours as you suggest: Their own names in gold paint on wrought iron fences and so on.

>consent to vaginal exam
>tell people you were raped
You really are a woman aren't you user?
kek

I agree OP. I'm not muslim but female doctors are a joke and rarely have the compassion, patience and intellect to treat you well.

Would you let a 11 year old boy be your doctor? of course not. So why a woman?

I usually give them a chance. No matter what though women usually respond to confidence and intelligence. If you are knowledgeable about what your problems are or what your symptoms are and know exactly what procedure you want or need done they generally do it with out arguing.
Male doctors tend to not respond to this and will over ride your opinion and do whatever they think the problem is and are more likely to waste your time on a hunch.
I am not saying don't listen to either doc, they are the experts after all, but make sure they are doing what YOU want.

Well this happens more often then you think. When a young woman (especially virgins) never have an exam like a papsmear, doctors could easily take advantage of the situation. The girl wouldn't even know she was being touched inappropriately because she never had one before and didn't know what to expect.

If I have the misfortune of seeing an Asian doctor again...I suppose I'll give them a chance. However if hey turn out to be typically arrogant or incompetent, I will literally walk to another member of staff and demand someone else. If they ask why, I'll tell them it's because Asian doctors are rude and shit. I can't wait to see the inability to cope and confusion on their faces when it comes out of the mouth of another Asian. They can't call me racist, kek.

I've never seen a chingchong doctor. I wonder what they're like...

i know first hand the men are awful, the female chink doctors are better to other female chink patients but generally shit to anyone else

ha ha,
What actually happens more than you think is girls are "virgins" but they have been diddled or molested in their youth and when the doctor starts touching them it stirs up emotions and they perceive it as them being violated all over again.
I will give you that real rape may happen in that setting, but extremely EXTREMELY rare.
Normal women who go in for their first pap always experience pain and discomfort but they don't use the R word when describing it unless they have serious issues

Nor have I seen one. In my experience, women doctors tend to seem a little more bored and men more attentive. This doesn't carry across to mental health issues though, where women are better and men tend not to be very helpful. I had a Greek male doctor who was obviously very bored by the prospect of having to do his job and treated his patients like specimens, and an African GP who seemed totally incompetent. On the basis of a half hour appointment he misdiagnosed me as Antisocial Behaviour Disorder, which is not a good diagnosis to have. Thankfully it was subsequently revisited.

>doesn't want women to touch him
>dat flag

you would love a rapefugee doc with a 20" tool to check your temperature from behind wouldn't you?

kys faggot

Can confirm worthless female DR's

>>Be 20
>>Constantly sick, go to DR at the Uni, was female. They say it's bronchitis. Take meds. Do not get better
>>Go to another clinic in town, see another female DR. "You have strep." Take meds, do not get better
>>Schedule another appointment, happen to get another female, explain the situation. Told me I was stressed because of degree, need more rest, maybe see a psychiatrist

That's when I was like WTF. I knew my body was not right, I was not crazy. I told a friend from high school about my inability to get better. She suggested I see her Uncle who was an old man DR.

>>See Wise Dr
>>You're sick. I believe you. Let's do a CBC
>>RESULTS. CANCER. GO TO THE MAYO CLINIC NOW
>>Hodgkin lymphoma, get radiation, chemotherapy, remove lymphnode, have stupid dot tattoos from radiation points and ugly node scar

Why could none of those other fucktard women think to do a simple CBC? My oncologist was male too and I'm cancer free for 7 years, for now. He was great and didn't treat me like I was a paranoid hypochondriac.

In closing, you are your best advocate.

There are good doctors and bad doctors regardless of religion. You will generally meet far better doctors the sicker you are.

Anyone ever had their cock checked by a female doc?

I imagine that would be odd, esp if you premature ejaculated kek

I havn't met a female doctor yet that has truely grasped medicine or embraced science behind it.

They all parrot information and barf it up on tests but they don't grasp it on a fundamental level.

Most of them are driven by a 'stick it to the man who is holding me down'.

Women thrive in these environments of regurgitating information and dropping short term memory bombs on exams.

But they all go get shit faced at the bar and party it up when the test is over. 3 weeks later they'll have literally no idea what any of the information they learned was.

This is the ones that get good grades.

You are wise.

The people of color are only their because of skin color.

Asian or white male doctors are literally the only people I would trust.

t. doctor

Most black doctors have to pay out their fuckholes for insurance. They actually have to pay more just because they're black. So most of them tend to try very hard not to fuck up.

Also affirmative action gets you into college. It doesn't help you graduate.

Oh man, you seem to have met as many shit doctors as I have. My luck has finally turned recently though. After my rare diagnosis (which I figured out by myself at age 26), other doctors have finally started taking me seriously. I have a suspicion that when they take a quick look at your record before you go in, they judge you quite a bit on that. But I still reckon Asian doctors are already pieces of shit to begin with so it makes them that much worse.

That casual misdiagnosis is scary. They can be so reckless. I was suffering from bad ENT problems for two years constantly. Blocked ears, pressure in ears, itchy ears, ear ache, itchy throat, blocked sinuses etc. I saw many doctors. Two of whom literally gave completely different diagnoses within a day. Anyway I finally got referred to a specialist the the Royal Free hospital. My mum asked to come with me because she saw I'd been getting nowhere on my own for two years. I let her. Still a teenager. The Asian male consultant barely took a look, said he saw no signs of anything wrong, that I felt phantom conditions, and basically told me to get out. And then in the letter sent to my GP (that I received a copy of), he said I should see a psychiatrist and that I had mummy issues (on the basis that I interrupted her once during the consultation). Such a piece of shit. That scared me off going to the doctor for the next 4 years. It can be so damaging to have that on your record (which like I said I think they all skim then judge you by).

>I asked him if he would be my PCP but he says hes only really interested in doing urgent care stuff at this point in his career.
Read as: I asked him if he would buy me PCP but he says hes only really interested in doing urgent care stuff at this point in his career.

Old doctors are best because they have the experience. Give me a 70 yer old white bloke tgat has been practising longer than my father has been alive.

Older women can be ok occasionally. Especially if they have seen some shit.

If they are young i want a bloke. Indians and asians are fine if you can understand them. Chances are they studied their ass off and know their shit.

Dont trust young females. They got in as a diversity applicant, sweet talked those asians into doing their assignments for them and slept with the professor for good grades.

I had a jewess doctor when I was having a heart attack from my degenerate coke using ways

she was very good.

Too bad she didn't charge you extra, let alone at all.

>t. Pediatric anesthesiologist
You put kids to sleep? What the fuck are you doing on 4ch- OOH.

>""asian""
>tfw no Sup Forums browsing paki girlfriend
This is fine, actually. Women are generally mostly trouble anyway.

inb4 some MGTOW plebbit shill materializes, I didn't mean it like that - kill yourselves.

There are some legitimately good black doctors, actually. The irony is that they almost all come from Rhodesia or apartheid South Africa.