>watch Alien >enjoy it >watch Aliens >enjoy it >get to Aliens 3 >they killed off Newt and Hicks immediately
What movies have extremely disrespectful finishes to a characters story? Apparently Michael Biehn was super pissed about what happened to Hicks and Newt
Isaac Wilson
Alien: Covenant
Austin Gutierrez
Aliens is when Sup Forumseddit infected the franchise so it's legacy deserves as much disrespect as possible. Alien 3 is a flawed movie but at least it's not a fucking capeshit tier flick like Aliens.
Nathaniel Flores
>Apparently Michael Biehn was super pissed about what happened to Hicks and Newt I don't think so, he's on record saying he was paid more for the use of his image in 3 than he received for the entirety of working on 2
Levi Ortiz
A3 is good shit
it made me appreciate the setting more and in hindsight I prefer this bag of bricks to the groin more than the hypothetical ''space traveling, tag-team, bug-killing, super fun-time family'' the producers probably were initially gunning for, which would further diminish the potency of the xenomorphs
Kayden Brown
I think it was because he forced them to after he learned he would not be in the film and since they used his likeness. Could be I'm wrong since Hollywoods full of shit a lot
Thomas Garcia
>buzzwords: the post
Julian Ortiz
>Sup Forumseddit infected >capeshit tier flick
Angel Martinez
>they killed off Newt and Hicks immediately WAAHHHH! I want an ever expanding cast of characters with plot armor in my survival horror in space movies.
Thomas Bailey
It's okay to kill characters user. Hell Michael biehn is kind of like Sean bean in that he dies in a lot of his movies. But the way they killed hicks and newt is clearly a fuck you to them. I don't mind that they died but it was done in a shit way
James Robinson
I disagree entirely. It's all about ripley, and the deaths of the only two people shes cared about in centuries at this point and what it does to her. Alien 3 is not a movie about hope. It establishes that tone and setting of being at the rock bottom of the universe.
Parker Taylor
I think we agree but in separate ways. I agree with hicks and newt's deaths having potential for ripleys character arc and the tone of the franchise being bleak at best. I just think that if you wanted them dead you could have done it a more impactful way. Many fans including me feel that they just kind of where like "fuck these two let's just kill them at the beginning of the third film, despite newt being the driving force of aliens"
Jack Rivera
maybe it was a veiled reference to alien 3s treatment of newt and hicks. an alien version of ring theory
Jonathan Cox
>a more impactful way What is lefts of Hicks' body and newt's autopsy are pretty impactful. Don't forget about Bishop's request for ripley to kill him.
For the sake of disclosure Alien 3 was my first alien movie and I genuinely like it. It's not flawless by any rights, but its pretty good, and when you consider its production history its a fucking miracle it got made at all (seriously, the making of alien 3 is a textbook example of development hell). I think plebs and general audiences shit on it because they wanted Aliens 2, not Alien 3.
David Baker
I enjoyed the film. I get your point completely. It just made it seem so rushed. I didn't know about the developmental hell. That definitely figures into it.
Benjamin Murphy
3 is excellent at establishing the alien as a threat again, after 2 made them pretty much next to harmless lolfodder. Newt and Hicks dying was a necessary part of this.
Adam Davis
Which make's no sense when you remember that decade's prior David was repaired after getting his head ripped clean off
Aiden Ward
I dont mind that they die. I mind that they die FUCKING OFF SCREEN BEFORE MOVIES STARTS REEEEEE
Also the whole scenario made absolutely no sense. Whats worse Alien covenant pulls off the exact same shit. Like why the fuck would Shaw ever trust David and let herself be killed by him? What the hell.
Angel Ward
Once again, people only criticize Alien 3 for the first 5 minutes. The rest of the movie is pure kino.
Jeremiah Long
Cameron raped the drones hard.
James Morgan
It's funny how Covenant managed to get the worst of both Aliens and Alien3.
Would you be okay with bringing new actors for those characters?
Colton Hernandez
Not to mention that they kill off the captain in the first few minutes, who is apparently James Franco. Literally why even be in the movie if you're just going to die without you being recognized aside from promo videos on fucking youtube?
Ryan Hall
There hasn't been a great Alien movie since Aliens. There will only be good Alien movies, nothing special anymore.
David Jones
3 is a shitty movie aimed at the edgy fedoratip crowd aliens is a great sequel, probably the best ever made >b-but muh b-bugs xdd
Sebastian Harris
newt was annoying, fuck her
Leo Williams
yeah this >hurr muh newt and hicks fuck off, a3 was the kino we deserved after that abomination known as Aliens
Brody Bennett
Probably cut in editing room to make room for the slapstick scenes.
William Brown
3 is great, just not quite as good as the first two. The cgi is also such shit it legitimately hurts the movie.
Isaac Robinson
what cgi?
Kayden Thomas
>that abomination known as Aliens
Brayden Rivera
so true, aliens was undeniable reddit
Hunter Fisher
>Hating any James Cameron film You have to go back.
David Martin
>I love Avatar
Charles Reed
I do, only redditors and numales hate it.
Oliver Walker
I've never seen 3 how'd they kill em off?
Oliver White
By crashing a spaceship, everyone dies except for ripley conveniently.