What exactly is wrong with Obamacare?

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It doesn't go far enough and the insurance companys still get to scam too many people.

If you worked an actual job and took a look at your taxes, you'd see the problem.

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It has more bad that the goods. Fat Steven is a liberal so obviously he's loving the Obama care.

Gee, I wonder why no one wanted to insure him.

Yes the whole point was to get insurance out of it but lobbyists ended up writing the thing

>insurance = healthcare
hahahahahahahah

a famous (((youtuber))) richer than anyone in this thread will ever be can afford health insurance and loves obama
really makes you think

It allows human filth like that to get health insurance

Isn't his wife also some tumblerina with a billion mental health problems and some other guy's kids?

why are americans so against being treated for illness without resulting in bankruptcy

>your tax dollars paying so this bloated horror can get a quadruple bypass every other year

My wife and I cannot afford Healthcare because it's $400 a month and we are barely middle class.
Since we can't afford it, we are breaking the law and must pay a $1200 fine at the end of the year.

So not only are we uninsured, but we have to pay for it.

They also have a roommate named Chad.

youtube.com/watch?v=BFmtuUVyWvs

skip to about 9:58

It hoists all the uninsurable and the poor onto the shoulders of the middle class.

Obama is a fucking footstool for the globalist elite. Now he's trying to push TPP through and fuck us in the ass with a $3billion/year deal for Israel before he goes. What a fucking joke of a president, the only people who still think he's anything but a con artist are indoctrinated retards who eat up the media without question.

>muh job creation
>muh economy graphs
>muh over simplified misconstrued data designed to mislead the average American

Have you seen how fat we are?

The amount of health insurance that was made available to people was only a fraction of the amount of people who lost their health insurance because of it. It's forced insurance, meaning if you don't have it or don't want it or can't afford it then the Federal Government doesn't care because it's going to take the money anyways without your consent in order to pay for peoples Health insurance that couldn't afford it previously.
It's essentially just Taxation without Representation and it's a disgrace because no one had any say in it being inacted, it was all just Insurance companies lobbying for it because it gives them a Carte Blanche to raise premiums to whatever they want. It's been a hindrance to more people than it has helped which is why it's a failure along with this faggot nigger Presidents whole goddamn 8-year term

yes lol

It basically just adds a tax for every month you don't have healthcare. Cool, thanks for charging me for not spending money I don't have!

>Paying a fine because you do not buy insurance

LAND OF THE FREE

>its the same with my other friends
>i like them very much, but i don't know if i care about them the way that I'm supposed to
>i've never cared about family

This guy is a fucking piece of shit. How does he have a YouTube following?

It's a bastardized version of universal healthcare that still gives ultimate power to the insurance companies

>inb4 le socialism meme

Healthcare is one of the few things Yurop got right. Health insurance companies are the most jewy a company can feasibly get, literally making money directly off of peoples' lives. They're a cancer and we'd be better off without them.

Holy shit, what in the fuck is this abomination?!

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Boogie can afford to be self-insured with all that YouTube money. Why the hell does he need Obamacare?

>we are able to PURCHASE insurance
You ain't paying shit for your insurance, fatass

If you are healthy and employed you are paying much more than you were for health insurance than you were before.

because its a plan to leech from the young and productive to pay for the health care of the old and dysfunctional?

because its corporate welfare?

because the dems had the chance to pass single payer (0% republican support and it went through) but chose corporate welfare instead?

because you won't break even on the most basic plan unless you have $20k in hospital bills a year?

Getting rid of Obamacare would be the best thing to happen for healthcare.

Obamacare is a complete failure. It punishes poor people for not having healthcare which makes them pay a fine that is collected out of tax returns. Premiums have sky rocketed even more when compared to the previous state of private healthcare before Obama's term. Why would people be afraid of losing it?

Are niggers and democrats really this stupid?

Land of the FEE ;__;

Yes. Yes they are.

he was a depressed loner neet for most of his life with shitty family, and then his wife found him on the internet, now hes a depressed loner neet with a wife. also i dont know why hes so popular hes pretty boring.

>Getting cuked by a guy named chad

The memes have gone too far.

As a owner of a small company that provides insurance to my 10 employees and covers left over medical costs through company reimbursement it has been a fucking disaster. We had our insurance policy changed 3 times. My company is all 50+ adults and we needed to have a plan that covered pregnancy. It costs my company around $7,000 a year in increased costs for that. It makes zero sense.

That money now comes out of everyone's quarterly bonus. Not really a great system.

By being a piece of shit "ironically"

It's It's a stopgap. Temporary tax brakes for insurance companies are literally the only things holding it together. These brakes expire in 2018, at which point the exchanges crumble and premiums skyrocket to counter the loss of ROI. As it stands, Obamacare is a time bomb set to go off on whoever is next POTUS.

I used to have decent insurance that would take care of shit for a copay. Same job...and now every year im responsible for the first 3-6 thousand dollars of a bill. Preventative care is covered but thats nothing. My wife should have a doctor to goto for girl stuff and none of that shits covered....but hey i have to pay 140 a month for it!


Thanks obongocare.....you fucked over taxpayers to cater to niggers that pay no taxes. Fuck you.

> Now has a $6k deductible
> People were so poor they couldn't afford monthly care prices with $2k deductible
> But now it's better that the prices are a little lower, but the deductible will now basically bankrupt them

It's shit. It's so bad that hospitals are turning people away if they don't pay their $6k+ deductible up-front. Plus all the other obvious issues.

Bing bam boom shoot the coon

Same here. I'm single and premium is $300/month. Plus copays are fucking retarded. I'm not putting my money into a system so a fat sloth can get their elbow checked at the ER for $4000.

We need to thin the herd, desperately.

Not to mention that no doctors in this country accept the "affordable" and "cheap" options. So basically, you get hurt, get patched up at the hospital, get a $36,000 bill because your insurance doesn't cover anything, and you just skip the bill anyway because fuck it, they can't prosecute you for not paying, and everyone else's rates go up to pay for the bill, plus the other 52 million unpaid bills.

Girlfriend is on company insurance. Gets better job opportunity but insurance waunt finalized for three months leaving her uninsured. Where is the ACA when full time workers have a gap in coverage?

Aside from punishing the youth and forcing them to foot the bill for the elderly, cost, and many other issues, as an American, I can't fucking STAND when the Government grows, and tells me how to spend my money, and punishes me if I don't do that. Especially something like this where it's a half-baked half measure that was only an issue because they made it one.

If somebody doesn't want health insurance, in my view, that's their right as an American. If they're young and don't need or want it, they should have the right to refuse to have health insurance without being severely punished.

I'm okay with car insurance, as it's a necessity considering that driving could directly result in damage to others as a result of your actions, but when it comes to health insurance, aside from a very roundabout way, it's only the individual on the line.

muslims are exempt from it

What's wrong with it is that it was written by the insurance companies to benefit them, and now the rest of us have to pay for a land whale like Boogie to use all of our services.

Source on this?

>because the dems had the chance to pass single payer (0% republican support and it went through) but chose corporate welfare instead?

this among other things was when I stopped taking people, who supported Obama, seriously. the man is a goddamn liar of monstrous proportions. he lies about just about everything, all the time.

They took away preexisting conditions so landwhales, nonfunctioning retards, and chain smokers on their third lung implant can get insurance now.

Problem is since everyone's required to have insurance, the kikes find it an opportunity to hike rates, whereas before premiums had to be low to entice young, healthy people to buy in.

Of course, if you're so fucking poor that you can't afford insurance even with Obongocare, it doesn't even affect you since penalties are taken out of your tax refund and poorfags don't have tax returns due to the whole no-income deal.

LOL you cunt of course you would.

Don't take a 7000 hit. Take it away from the guys that make you rich and probably make 35-45k a year

Suck dog dick pig

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Yeah the problem lies with people who "couldn't afford health insurance" (read: didn't want to sacrifice their consumption for health insurance) the they get sick and cry their crocodile tears, "BOO HOO I CANT GET MAH HEEALFCURE!"

FUCK those people. If my house catches fire and I didn't buy fire insurance, that's my own fucking fault.

ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES

GROW THE FUCK UP

FUCK IM SO MAD

It was all a big lie. We were told that insurance premiums were high because young people are choosing to live without insurance, and that by forcing everyone to buy insurance it will bring premiums down.

In reality, the opposite happened and premiums have never been higher. The insurance companies lobbied for it and came out on top, with higher profits than ever before.

I would love to be in an industry where EVERY member of the public is FORCED to purchase my product.

>Healthcare is one of the few things Yurop got right

Yeah, nah. We also deal with increasing costs each year while getting less and less coverage. Almost seems like telling a company you'll pay for whatever they want to spend through taxation is a universally bad idea...

>how do profit margins work
>how to small businesses work

>this makes it all worthwhile. sorry you normal people are worse off :3

I heard that Obamacare made health insurance more expensive. Is that true? If so, how?

I understand you Americans like your freedoms but I think mandatory health insurance helps keep Healthcare affordable. Here we pay €80-120 and everything is covered.

It benefits insurance companies more than it does us.

Wow, this one person being helped by a government program just disproved all of the criticisms leveled against it; for example that it's wildly inefficient and raises premiums for far more people than it ends up helping, all at the expense of the middle-class.

I mean, how can it be BAD if it HELPED that guy?

>I would love to be in an industry where EVERY member of the public is FORCED to purchase my product.
This happened.

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My insurance was $225/mo before Obamacare. It went up to $435/mo after Obamacare went into effect.
I couldn't afford it so I signed up for Obamacare. Now I pay nothing. No co-pay, no deductible, free meds. Everything is free.

Because all the fat people and unhealthy people who were previously uninsured now get put into the insurance pool, so healthcare costs go up because risk went up, so everyone has to pay in a bit more now

Actually, it would be a $77,000 hit because he has 10 employees.

I thought you lefties LOVED the idea of dividing responsibility up evenly. Oh wait no, that's wealth I'm thinking of. All the responsibility gets heaped on Dad.

>Here we pay €80-120 and everything is covered.
>everything is covered

Lol, not even close. On the basic package, you don't get dental, very limited mental therapy, no physiotherapy, etc. But sure, it's gotta cover birth control pills because 'muh wymyns rights'.

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>Why Obamacare Co-Ops Are Failing At A Rate Of Nearly 50%

forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2015/10/29/why-obamacare-co-ops-are-failing-at-a-rate-of-nearly-50/#900abd1b0a24

>Next year’s premiums for health coverage under the Affordable Care Act could rise more than in past years in most markets and declines might be rare, according to a preliminary analysis of insurers’ plans.

>Overall, premiums for a popular type of plan — the second-lowest silver plan — could rise 10 percent on average next year in 14 major metropolitan areas, according to an analysis released Wednesday by the Kaiser Family Foundation. Kaiser based its projections on insurers’ preliminary rates filed with state regulators, which remain subject to state or federal review. (KHN is an editorially independent program of the foundation.)

khn.org/news/study-projects-sharper-increases-in-obamacare-premiums-for-2017/

>California Obamacare rates to rise 13% in 2017, more than three times the increase of last two years

latimes.com/business/la-fi-covered-california-rates-20160718-snap-story.html

Supposedly they're trying to force the increases after the election instead of November 1st.

Trump's wall shit aside, here in the southwest US we actually do have a pretty serious illegal Mexican problem. In the process of hopping the border, Juanita breaks her leg but happens to also be 8.5 months pregnant, so not only does her anchor baby get full citizenship, she walks away from the hospital without paying a dime and there is nothing they can do about it. This shit happens on the daily and in order for the hospital to recoup their losses on people who can't pay, they charge a rediculous amount for the average American hoping the insurance companies will pay out 90% of some rediculous sum. It's a viscous and expensive cycle

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>on the basic package
Yes, hence I said 80-120, not 80. If you pick your additional packages smart (eg no physiotherapy if you don't do sports, no eye care if your eyes are a-ok) you never have to pay anything beyond deductibles.
Keep in mind this is before zorgtoeslag as well.

this picture fully redpilled me on obamacare.

I already didnt like it but I liked the fact that some people who couldnt find a policy could find one.
Then this made me realize, no one wants to
ensure this guys shitty fucking lifestyle. Why
should they? Fuck me, let this pig fucking
die for his bad health choices. Didnt he say
he was going to lose weight like 3 years ago?
he looks heavier!

Fucking disgusting.

Heard some bitch with Zika came from Honduras to visit her family in Florida, then coincidentally gave birth to her mongoloid while in the US.

Why do you
type like
this?

The only thing I ever got from Obamacare was a fine for not being able to afford it.

A nigger created it.

Promised free health insurance to everyone.

Fucked up the healthcare system to the point insurance companies can arbitrarily deny any claim if they believe paying it would set a precedent that could drive them out of business.

So that's why nothing you had is covered by insurance any more.

I'm in same fuckin boat. Lost my job and ins. Due to oil crashing and still have to pay 350 to 550 a month. Since I'm 39 white and have never been on gov assistance, And don't have a wife nor kids I'm fucked. Affordable my ass.
Be 39 white male in America, who's being marginalized now.

>I dont know, so look it up yourself - the post

>footstool for the globalists
>immensely helps out the poor and incarcerated

do you even know the basic mechanisms of globalism? in order to stay in power, you need a massive lower class and a massive prison population.

Why couldn't he buy it before? Was someone blocking his calls or standing in front of the door to the insurance company?

He's a part of the "He's like me crowd, lol sexd".
Plus, youtubers have shitty taste in entertainment. Look at Amazing Atheist, he's a loser with no IRL friends and a fat wife that cucked him. Yet people still follow him.

I also have no idea why nobody wants to insure these psychopaths and cover all of their (((((necessary)))))) medical expenses.

>Go from well trimmed guy to something that most men wouldn't barely touch.
God, why do trannies always do this?

no idea.

I recently had a no fault medical issue. Just hit with something random, that can only be solved with time and painkillers (pancreatitis, which can be caused by drinking, which I barely do).

My doc recommended I get GI scoped (mouth not ass you pervs).

Even with quality insurance, it's cost me almost 3 grand, and the bills keep coming.

2 hours in ER
1 hour common procedure

and the bills keep coming

The government now owns an extremely large section of our country's economy. If you don't understand why this is bad, might I suggest:
wikiwand.com/en/Communism

it will all come crashing down soon.

money.cnn.com/2016/08/02/news/economy/aetna-obamacare/index.html

>immensely helps out the poor and incarcerated
abdulrahman al awlaki, 16 year old from colorado, disagrees

Based retarded shill, so stupid he thinks he's refuting my point but ends up saying basic shit that we all know.

Stay a while and read up, maybe you'll end your shift at CTR less of a retard.

>Had polyps in my nose
>had to get them removed
>all I had to do pay was 400$ for the cover charge and the insurance paid for the rest
ng, you should get better healthcare user-kun.

Here's the thing. The dude in pic 1 has to work for a living. He has to earn the things he wants. He has to earn the approval of others. He has to behave according to certain social moors.

The dude in pic 4 has convinced himself that he's a woman. As a woman, he thinks he will be provided for. He thinks he should not and will not have to do any of the heavy lifting. He thinks he is entitled to social approval just for existing. He thinks that all the love he wants will come to him without having to earn it in any way shape or form.

All the gibs that they demand are part of this.

ER Visit - $1500ish
>bill from hospital
>bill from MRI reading company

Follow up Doc visit - less than $100
>$35 there, another $40 billed later

GI scoping - $1200ish
>GI doc bill
>hospital bill
>imaging bill
>anesthesiologist bill

I dunno, but every time I turn around, another $40 dollar bill shows up.

that can't be real...

I realize democrats are morons, but seriously

If you can't afford 300$ a month, you aren't in the middle class

Well, I think poor parenting has a lot to do with it.
No, self-respecting dad would allow his offspring to voluntarily castrate themselves.
Hm, that's not unusual.
I'd mark it off on taxes if I were you.

>What exactly is wrong with Obamacare?
Its not universal free healthcare.

The US can not provide universal healthcare for its citizens without crashing your healthcare system with no survivors. Sweden is a prime example of a country who dumps more than 50% of its healthcare costs onto the US taxpayer, or patient.

My wife and I make about $60K a year together, so yes we are middle class.
We just don't have the leftover money after bills to be handing out $400 a month.

I'm a fat guy and i hate boogie he a whiny loser.

This tweet is stupid. If this fucking cuck would have gotten insurance before he was sick hed of locked in a lower rate. I shouldn't have to subsidize his wanting to save shekels or his blatant stupidity for putting it off. If he was born with a disability that's on him and his family. Nowhere in the constitution does it say i have to go to work so you can get free wheelchairs.

>shitty parents, never learned how to process emotions properly
>results in attempting to tolerate stressful situations without resolution
>develop anxiety, fucks up social relations
>have suicidal thought while at work, triggers anxiety attack
>advised by onsite EMT to to speak with Crisis Intervention counselors at hospital ER
>ambulance crew tells me I'm being diverted to a different ER
>arrive at ER, they ask if I have insurance, but make no effort to explain potential cost or even collect my insurance information to verify what would potentially be covered
>take vitals, shove me in a room
>counselor speaks to me for 15 minutes, tells me to call my employer's Employee Assistance Program
>Doctor stops by for five minutes
>Wait two and a half hours for blood test before being discharged
>$1700 ER bill, $800 ambulance fee

Fair value for services rendered, I think.

It doesn't go far enough. Insurance companies and drug companies need to be burned to the ground and everyone above middle management needs to be publicly executed.

I don't care if our medical system collapses it needs to be completely redesigned from the ground up.