People will often defend all batmans killing in BvS by saying that he has done it in all his past films as well.
leaving aside that almost all of those leave enough room for interpretation that maybe they did not die the thing is it does not fucking matter if he did it in those films.
in all the previous batman series if he killed somebody it just meant this was a series where batman kills it only affects these films
but this is a shared universe synder has forced dc into writing there movies in a universe where batman is a killer and that is a huge problem a shared universe should be the main interpretations of the character leave alternate stuff for elseworlds.
>a shared universe should be the main interpretations of the character
Movies are Elseworlds.
Landon Torres
i want auctual elseworld films just so we can get a new logo dont get me wrong i like the current logo but as says dcfags love logos
Ayden Murphy
I like the way Batman looks with guns. Too bad he's such a faggot about them.
Jonathan Nelson
the shot of him about to fire the tracer was pretty nice
Kayden Richardson
They shouldn't be treated as such. They should be as close to the character they're trying to adapt as possible, otherwise it completely trivializes the point in making a movie about them. Defending the biggest contradiction to Batman's entire mythos with this bullshit is asinine at best.
Nathaniel White
Except he doesn't killing in BvS nor manslaughtering. Even in Metal Gear Solid it doesn't count if you shoot in barrel and it blows up near goon, or if you shot guy with tranq and he accidentally fell. Winnick-faggots need to take red pill and accept Batman (same with Superman and many others) the way he is, nor the way they want he to be. There's already countless canons (golden age, silver age, crisis, flashpoint, new52, rebirth) and even more elseworlds (all-star, erath 1, new52 earth 2, etc). Movie is adaptation, so it can take elements from whatever canon/elseworld shit ever existed story-wise context-wise. Your favorite stories when Batman killed no one also count as adaptation (hell, everything that didn't created by it's original authors is already adaptation), so STFU and enjoy kino.
Brayden Hill
>They shouldn't be treated as such. They should be as close to the character they're trying to adapt as possible, otherwise it completely trivializes the point in making a movie about them. Defending the biggest contradiction to Batman's entire mythos with this bullshit is asinine at best. Sure thing, whinnicock
Nicholas Thomas
He shoot machine guys directly at people
Luke Garcia
It's okay they were Lexbots. All of them.
Christopher Murphy
not defending bvs's Batman killing people but it just seems like how a more realistic Batman would have to operate if he acted like he does. There's no way he could get through his career without killing someone whether he likes it or not
Grayson Clark
>Even in Metal Gear Solid it doesn't count if you shoot in barrel and it blows up near goon Loving this one user
Joshua Price
>leaving aside that almost all of those leave enough room for interpretation that maybe they did not die lol no
Anthony Howard
pretty much the only definitely dead scene i can think of is when batman lied to himself and said he did not have to save ras.
im sure theres a couple others im forgetting though
Robert Thomas
>leaving aside that almost all of those leave enough room for interpretation that maybe they did not die the thing is it does not fucking matter if he did it in those films. >in all the previous batman series if he killed somebody it just meant this was a series where batman kills it only affects these films
Aww now ain't that convenient. Now people can't call you on your bullshit right? Fuck you.
Oh and FYI they were planning to connect this Universe with a new Superman movie but it didn't pan out.
Also fuck off.
Carson Sanchez
Well they were adapting DKR batman, so I think they did alright.
Tyler Gonzalez
>They should be as close to the character they're trying to adapt as possible, otherwise it completely trivializes the point in making a movie about them. So why bother making a movie (or really anything) about them if it's the exact same thing over and over and over?
Ian Russell
>Defending the biggest contradiction to Batman's entire mythos with this bullshit is asinine at best.
Funny considering all the killing he did in early comics, but i guess those are no longer part of the "mythos" now right? The whole no killing thing is recent and it's done not because of moralfag shit, but because of convenience.
As in if Bats keeps killing we will keep having to make new villains for him to fight and he wouldn't have a steady rogues gallery.
Kayden Stewart
>leaving aside that almost all of those leave enough room for interpretation Batman is clearly shooting cement piercing rubber bullets and bombs to gently incapacitate those goons. youtube.com/watch?v=hUqGwnAolSs
Literally killed that Joker henchman he strapped a bomb to.
James Hill
>Oh and FYI they were planning to connect this Universe with a new Superman movie but it didn't pan out. good point that partialy excuses that series but there still not as fucking blatent as BvS
Don't worry guys, Batman didn't murder Ra's Al Ghul. He just didn't save him.
LOL
Austin Hill
>but there still not as fucking blatent as BvS
>Keatonbats smiles at a mook before kicking him down a hole, and walking away as he explodes.
>Keaton Bats throws a goon off a clocktower to his death
>Not as blatant
Gabriel Bell
>leaving aside that almost all of those leave enough room for interpretation that maybe they did not die The death's in '89, Returns, Forever, Begins, and TDKR are for the most part very final.
>but this is a shared universe and that makes a difference how? It's an Elseworlds, so by virtue of that you should expect a version of the character that isn't bound by the rules of main canon. The majority of the best Batman Elsewords feature an in-name-only version of Batman anyway.
>pretty much the only definitely dead scene i can think of is when batman lied to himself and said he did not have to save ras. You need to watch these movies again. Joker, Penguin, and multiple thugs in Returns and '89, Two Face in Forever and Talia are all pretty obviously intentional and very final deaths.
Lincoln Reyes
Nope, he shoot cars.
Luke Sullivan
>You need to watch these movies again. Joker, Penguin, and multiple thugs in Returns and '89, Two Face in Forever and Talia are all pretty obviously intentional and very final deaths. yeah i will have to watch them again but i do distinctly remember that nobody that got blown up was actually on screen
also anybody that thinks that burnt guy died is a fucking faggot
Joshua Butler
Except they were trying to make a shared universe with Burton.
In fact, they tried to make a shared universe with literally every movie incarnation but never happened.
Aaron Long
Batman didn't kill those people during the batmobile chase. He just didn't save them. :^)
Mason Ward
He shot cares people were standing in the back of
Caleb Bennett
Shouldn't have been in the car.
Lincoln Powell
Bats should not have shot at it
Jaxson Adams
Shouldn't have gotten in the way of the bullet.
Gavin Young
kekekeke
Cooper Harris
The funny thing here is that you could apply this to '89 during the Axis Chemicals scene.
Oliver Martinez
bats should never have put the weapon on the batmobile knowing he would fire it at people