Do you like capitalism?

Do you like capitalism?

not after working in econ for three years

justice is bought with money here and there

Yes

>bait or retart
Capitalism works better than all alternative economic systems, except mixed-economies which are still part capitalist

Your pic does not denounce capitalism but a corrupted judiciary system in which both law and judges are incompetent.

yes because there never has been and never will be a system where everyone is treated fairly and despite its flaws capitalism is the most stable and most viable system out there

>that's not REAL capitalism

what's it like having an econ job?

t. thinking about majoring in econ

people dislike communists so much they won't even notice his main argument for disliking capitalism has nothing to do with the system itself.
desu they're really despicable.

Rare pepe. Consider it saved

not an argument

>Capitalism works better than all alternative economic systems
Only because the rich provide an appealing enough carrot for most of us to completely overlook the stick.
Nevermind people are working more hours on average than humans have at any point in our evolution and the divide between rich and poor is wider than ever before.

At least it 'just werks.'

i wouldn't care normally but its fucking up the environment and climate change is pretty concerning

>euros and latins actually spent their valuable time making these memes

Wow this is a photoshopped hand (look at the palm and edges)

tired of false flagging wh*Toids

Fuck off back to Sup Forums.

Capitalism is human nature.

To "like" or not "like" is both equally futile and retarded

If you don't like capitalism you're a waste of space. Don't bother responding because I won't look at it dickhole

Dear online communist warriors, showing flaws of capitalism doesn't mean that communism is better.

Even with its flaws, Capitalism is THE BEST system out there so far. It is best for us to fix and maintain it. Communism is not the answer and it will destroy everything.

You can only commit white collar fraud once. Once you're caught that's it, you're never going to find yourself in a similar position for the rest of your life. You can commit bank robberies as many times as you like after you get out of prison.
Bank robbers get the harsher sentence because they're more likely to re offend than a white collar criminal

That's not what capitalism is though, that's crony capitalism.

T. Doesnt have a job and lives in melbourne

>if you are not me, you're a peace of shit

Kek. How old are you? 12?

>capitalism is ba-

This is like a smoking man trying to convince everyone that lung cancer is human nature.

-good :)

Why is that a good thing? Are you any of the dudes on that list?

how is that the same? Lung cancer is "inherently" bad. Capitalism is debatable.

Bullshit. Maybe not in the same field but with the internet people do everything now.

White collar crime is the best, I have no idea what retards rob gas stations with guns these days or petty other bullshit.

Its actually a black guy but hes being ironic and is a massive weeb

By this logic the pettier the crime is the longer the sentence should be, who isn't going to re-offend a verbal assault charge eventually if they had such little self control that they committed it in the first place?

In the example the homeless man felt so bad about stealing $100 he fucking returned it. The punishment doesn't fit the crime in either case.

>Nevermind people are working more hours on average than humans have at any point in our evolution
I'd much rather work 40 hours a week in an office and live a life of unimaginable luxury compared to the lifestyles of those a mere 100 years ago working 25 hours a week in the field and still having to bury your 3 year old son because you can't afford a physician.

>the divide between rich and poor is wider than ever before.
I can't comment if this is true or false, because I don't know the facts. But I'm going to go out on a limb and say that our "poor" are still miles ahead in wealth and lifestyle of the poor from 100 years ago (again, not even spanning all the way to the feudal era, and the times before that)

Regardless, the average person in a capitalist system will still be happier and wealthier than in most other economic systems :)

Every time someone says the word “capitalism”, at least 3 people post the same “better than gommies despite flaws” line over and over again, almost word for word. Really fires up those neurons.

feel free to refute it any time

>there has been technological progress in the past 200 years
And this is related to capitalism why?

Bank robberies also have the potential to become violent.

This literally proves capitalism is shit. Nobody needs, or even benefits, from having over a billion $.

You’d have to make an argument first for me to refute instead of posting your idea of a clever one liner.

oy vey, stop the antisemitism

I could use a billion dollars. Besides, it's not all in cash anyway.

>at least 3 people post the same “better than gommies despite flaws” line over and over again, almost word for word.
we say this over and over again because it's true :)

>Capitalism
Sounds more like a case of corrupt politicians working in tandem with the industrial-prison complex

Of course the guy who committed a violent crime gets a long sentence.

Mate where the fuck have you been? The UK is literally seeing its quality of life nosedive as a result of pushing for more and more free market capitalism. Fuck's sake Carillion implosion is literally tanking the British Pound. That's what happens when you let corporate power become the defacto government.

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>emoticon
>smug sense of superiority
>WE
9gag is the other direction

you have to provide a reason for why you believe the statement is false

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We don't scribble utopias. This is rank idealism.

There’s no upvotes here.

>It's the same leftypol phoneposter getting repeatedly btfo
Lol go to leftypol or reddit don't you have any shame

>discord cancer is telling people to go back
lol

Here's the argument: capitalism is the best system of production and distribution; it allows for the growth and innovation that has raised the general quality of life to the point where people who have no point of reference for economic failure can delude themselves to believe anything short of perfection must be replaced.

>the aim of socialism is to bring the lower classes into the middle class

Already wrong.

Posting a picture you didn’t read that includes a spergout written in a autistic fury does not constitute an argument.

Capitalism giveth and capitalism taketh away. I can give you several examples of capitalism improving lives of people in multiple countries. Capitalism has varied results.

Communism and to a lesser extent, socialism, have much worse track records.

yes
here is our based god emperor saying "i authorize child labour again, but only if they work for free"

Oh look, it’s le angry leaf, here to sperg out in another thread.

ah yes, look at this nosedive

still more intelligent than your response

>says le angry commie mutt sperging out again

>capitalism is the best system of production and distribution; it allows for the growth and innovation that has raised the general quality of life
How? Wages have not kept up with profits or productivity in the workplace, the developed world has started to see life expectancy drop for anyone but the ultra rich. Particularly in the US.

>Capitalism giveth and capitalism taketh away.

>tfw a supporter of capitalism has a rare moment of lucidity and straight-up admits that he worships capitalism and the free market as a sort of deity

Two leafs
Communists deserve the gas chambers

well this one was unusually easy

Yes Zhang, we are all aware of your ability to user your phone as well.

>Capitalism giveth and capitalism taketh away
This is why I don't trust market fetishist. You people have the gall to call anyone you disagree a someone who worships the state, but then turn around with this tripe where you dogmatically treat "the invisible hand" as a literal god. A god that cannot be questioned in anyway and that lies beyond human reproach.

The "giveth and taketh" phrase is common and secular. It has nothing to do with worshiping. You're hilarious

Why are you talking in third person now

that's not at all what he's saying, he's saying "it is now free for bosses to hire child labour" but we can assume the children do receive some sort of compensation

Yes, I absolutely love capitalism. Best system we've devised yet.

haha upvote!

The invisible hand is a concept made by economists, with many studies and theories in the background. It's not a mysterious god you blindly worship.

If you took some economy classes you would understand it and fear it less.

>people in this thread treating 'capitalism' and 'socialism' as abstract plans for society that are devised by intellectuals somewhere and then imposed onto society
>people not understanding modes of productions as emergent from the material realities of collective human existence
>people thinking you can 'try' socialism or 'try' capitalism
>people being absolutely drunk on idealism

>Best system we've devised yet.
This is unironically true

Every time I see these threads im always reminded that Joseph Stalins granddaughter owns a clothing and antique store like 20 minutes away from me and I just start laughing

The problem isn't capitalism, it's the complete lack of ethics, especially at a corporate level.

I fundamentally believe that ethical capitalism is not only desirable, but the only sustainable long-term option. Unfortunately, our continued greed and disregard for any sort of ethics will be our very downfall.

>the gods are entities interpreted by priests, with many prayers and rituals in the background

>if you worshipped more often you would understand and fear them less

TL;DR Capitalism is the sum of commerce that just happened over time.

Capitalism doesn't need violent revolutions or overthrowals. Communists and socialists are the ones that are drunk on idealism.

>what are prices
>what is incentive

>Capitalism is the sum of commerce that just happened over time.
>Capitalism doesn't need violent revolutions or overthrowals
Let's just forget the french revolution, the Napoleonic wars and every independence movement in the Americas that ever happened.

False comparison.

A theological god is still ultimately omnipotent and mysterious. The "invisible hand" is a clearly defined concept and you can debate about it. You can't with a God.

>what is scripture
>what is faith
Your logic is utter dogshit, m8. You unironically made me turn against your position by the sheer shittiness of your argumentation.

>TL;DR Capitalism is the sum of commerce that just happened over time.

Correct.

Communism or socialism if you prefer, is the sum of, or the description of, the real movement of the proletariat as it exists.It is not some sort of 'plan' to be imposed on man.

>Capitalism doesn't need violent revolutions or overthrowals.

Absolutely incorrect. Capitalism was imposed violently across the world. Traditional communities and economic systems were brutally smashed to facilitate integration into the emerging capitalist economy. For example, the supremely bloody French Revolution and its ensuing wars were necessary to secure the existence and future of liberalism and capitalism.This was not a bad thing (there is no morality at work here, only social progress). It was progress for the time. In the same way, socialism asserts itself with extreme violence.

>You can't debate about a God.
Are you utterly retarded?

What do you fucking think theologians and philosophers have been doing for the past several thousand fucking years?

Napoleonic wars and the American revolution is primarily political, just with an economic background. The actual economic system didn't change from the conflicts like the Russian 1917 revolution did for example.

There aren't that many wars fought to "bring capitalism to this country"

I know the son of the rich guy who got arrested
he's nice I guess

Alright, I'll take the low hanging fruit.
Because capitalism was instituted roughly 250 years ago.
And for a more relevant response, because capitalism is the best system we have yet devised to maximize inventiveness and productivity. Nothing incentivises competition better than capitalism.

Everyone has a potential to commit murder, yet we are not sentenced for the mere potential. In civilized countries you are sentenced according to your actions, not according your potential to do something.

Debate as in arguments with a yes/no question and you can investigate with research and statistics. Falsifiable hypotheses.

Debates about God is ultimately answerless, all points are unfalsifiable, and they are ultimately futile.

>many wars fought to "bring capitalism to this country"
Of course there were. The bourgeois fought many wars to either shift themselves to the top of the power structure were they lived (the european revolutions) or to impose that system in countries where it didn't exist (colonial imperialism and its subsequent revolutions).

There is an obvious reason why an armed bank robbery carries a harsher punishment than creditcard fraud, even if you can make 10x as much with the latter.

Scripture and faith do in fact exist user. So does this mean you acknowledge the existence of the free hand of the market?

economics are always moving in the background of politics.

The Napoleonic Wars smashed what was left of feudalism and paved the way for the domination of capitalism in Europe.

Communism is both the name of the goal and the name of the movement attempting to build it. It is indeed based on grappling with material conditions and not declaring some ideal, which is why China is- paradoxically- communist in their capitalism, since the intentions of the politburo are to develop the modes of production for communism.

Yeah Anatole France addressed this a century ago.

Way to prove that you know absolutely nothing about theology.

what is "every bourgeois revolution ever fought"