Let's try to analyze this objectively, Sup Forums. Why is Homecoming underperforming in the US...

Let's try to analyze this objectively, Sup Forums. Why is Homecoming underperforming in the US? Are people just tired of yet another reboot?

The film is just shit. There is nothing really to analyze. Even it did well or does well in foreign markets, it would still be shit. I think that's part of the reason.

But to try to answer your question more concretely, I think it has more to do with today's typical audiences not giving a shit about movies during the peak of the summer. It used to be that summer was the big block buster season. Not so much anymore. Normies would rather do other things than spend their time watching CGI super heroes, even though they are the prime demo which keep these shitty movies afloat.

too much "diversity"

not enough of the characters that people usually like to see in a spiderman movie: black mj, black flash, no uncle ben, young aunt may ...etc

no iconic spiderman moments as in him web slinging in New York

You know those straight to dvd Disney Channel produced films?

Well thats exactly what this film reminds me of. Some serious money laundering going on. The cgi was not $150 million worth.

Anyway the comedy was disney style sitcom. Without the spiderman name it would be flopping.

Believe or not, vocal racists are not a majority in the US. You might want to leave your house some time.

>Underperforming
>Has exceeded the expectations the studio had

?

>black flash

Man according to Sup Forums that poor guy belongs to every single race

>Why is Homecoming underperforming in the US? Are people just tired of yet another reboot?
they're tired of leftist propaganda being shoved into everything
>literally 5 seconds into the film someone is chastised for calling native Americans "Indians"
>literally 10 seconds in a black school news reporter is macking on blonde white girl
>the new black Mary Jane's WE speech about how the Washington monument was built by slaves
>both of Peter Parker's love interests are black
>villain's wife is black
>Peter's Mexican school rival has a white blonde girlfriend
>the oh so edgy Sup Forums Fuck Marry Kill scene with high schoolers fantasizing about old men, also participated in by a gay male

etc. etc.etc.

Just how many times has this shit been rebooted? I've actually lost count.

>Based on past trajectories of Marvel films such as Ant-Man and Guardians of the Galaxy, we’re projecting an opening weekend between $120 million and $125 million, although there could arguably be a bit more upside given the buzz around the film so far and Marvel’s tendencies to drive strong matinee business on Saturdays and Sundays. Of note, Sony themselves are projecting between $119 million and $121 million for the weekend.
And before that, it was projected to do 135M on opening weekend.

Who said anything about "vocal"?

When did fuck marry kill become Sup Forumss thing? It was in movies in the 90s.

There is something condescendingly racist about hollywood's latest race/identity -ploitation. While they project racism on anyone that calls out that kind of stunt casting. It seems to highlight a fact that hollywood can't write original content for minorities and instead shoves them into existing roles in an overly formulaic approach.

>a spider killed by apes
There's something poetic in this.

>villains wife is black
>Peter's Mexican school rival has a white blonde girlfriend
These are entirely normal things.
The Indians and Washington Monument scenes are valid for bitching about social justice bullshit in a popcorn flick though.

>it's the closest to the comics we'll ever get!
>Everyone is a minority uncle Ben is Iron Man and Aunt May is hotter than MJ
Seriously how can marvelfags be so deluded?

Can we please stop mimicking the comics and create something new for fucking once? I'm sick of "accurate adaptations" that turn a perfectly good comic book story into a mediocre $200 million CGI bukakke spectacle. Make a goddamned original hero already Marvel/DC. One we don't know. These characters are more than half a century old for the most part.

twice
And they're going to do it again after this flops

Did Superman 5 make as much as Superman 1 and 2?

Do we even actually know how much studios get from other countries? We only know for certain that after long negotiations China recently went from giving back 12% of the revenue to 25%, which means that a movie still needs to make an enormous profit in China to bring back big money.

Second reboot in less than 20 years.

Sony handling the marketing.

More Teen Comedy feat. Rookie Spider-Man than an actual Superhero movie.

These are the three reasons I think, biggest easily being the first. Mainstream audiences simply don't like change and find it irritating and confusing.

>both of Peter Parker's love interests
Oreo end?

>Liberals think ppl want to watch ugly people.

I think is hilarious that you are so deep in social justice that you refuse to see reality.
If you are gonna cast foreign looking people at least make sure they are watchable.

I mean look at this fucking castThey are not even worth of being a B-list from bollywood.

>The film is just shit

That's objectively false. You're an idiot.

I think it'd be making more if it was the first Spidey film in 10 years.

>Why is Homecoming underperforming in the US?
>destroyed WW
???

Being critical of forced diversity doesn't make one racist.

The silent majority don't want shoehorned diversity and political garbage shoved into every capeshit/kid movie. The vocal minority (See: Libcucks AKA you) don't actually watch these flicks anyways. Hollywood's agenda isn't tolerance or diversity, it's cultural marxism and even normalfags are growing tired of it.

Don't worry, we can blame this all on Sony. It obviously would've been a different movie without them.

No, it's shit.

>destroyed WW
lol

>black mj
That ruined the kino for me.
>young aunt may
And that saved the kino.

If this is true (I don't care to check), it probably is Spiderman fatigue. We'll be back to the big bucks by Thor.

Nothing will ever beat the Raimi Spiderman. Literally the perfect cast, and the first two movies had amazing scripts.

Because it follows the actual comic books too closely, which the vast majority of people don't give a shit about these days.

He is not lying

I'm getting nervous. Most places are projecting Apes to open pretty low.

Ape Kino needs to win

>Literally the perfect cast
Tobey Maguire is a fucking charisma vacuum. He's not good in anything.

Summer fatigue. Too many darkies.

Thanks to Sup Forums I wait a week before deciding to see a new release so I can check up on the memes from the movie. In conclusion I'm not going to see Spiderman Homecoming

Sony movies look very cheap (except the james bond movies), especially with CGI. Disney movies are ugly too but it isn't a money problem.

People are tired of:
Superhero movies
Reboots
SJW bullshit
Robert Downey Jr as Iron Man

People will probably debate the last one but it really seems to me like the character is way past it's prime. We all loved him in the beginning, but somewhere around Age Of Ultron we just started to get sick of him.

I hope he has an epic death in Infinity War

Reboot is probably the best theory. The earlier reboot had already been way too soon and without any improvement; people probably thought "I'll just watch this if people coming out say it's great" and that didn't happen.

I think they did everything they could've to avoid capefatigue. No end of the world plot, no origin story, no clusterfuck action. But in the end the movie was competent, even good but not remarkable. It might have better legs than it looks like now but in the end I don't think people want another expansion kit to mcu. Maybe they'd have been better off keeping it a smaller budget movie without Stark.

They literally JUST rebooted too. Garfield Spiderman couldn't have been more than three years ago. Are they incapable of telling anything other than the origin story again and again?

>Are they incapable of telling anything other than the origin story again and again?
Homecoming isn't an origin story....that's been made very clear since they started making it, where the fuck have you been?

Sony movies, especially the 007 films, arent that bad looking. What makes you say that?

>Are they incapable of telling anything other than the origin story again and again?
Homecoming isn't an origin story at all. In fact it subverts a shitload of typical capeshit tropes.

Yes, he is. It's incredibly unlikely that Spidey will keep going as strongly as WW did. A slightly better opening weekend is not "destroying".

yes

You can be true to the spirit of the lore without making it a direct lift of the comics. Raimi understood that. Disney never has. Making Peter a Stark fanboy and having him be his voice of wisdom is utter shit and disrespectful to everything Pete's character is.

are you retarded? specifically writing roles for minorities is backwards.

No, racebending characters is backwards.

...

fuck off stormfag

Sure, that`s why Hillary is president.
The world is not your liberal arts college.

That's clearly part of it. Though you say "yet another reboot," as kind of a naked statement, this is the second one for Spider-Man. Oversaturation is another part. Apparently it made all its money in India, so, whatever.

Homecoming was such a pile of steaming shit.

-At least 60% High School shit

-"Spider-man can't go stop crime, he's in detention" is LITERALLY plot point

-tfw you realize it's called "homecoming" because he has to go to the homecoming dance!

-No stakes or emotional depth. Everything is undercut by a shit joke.

-No mention of Uncle Ben at all, his motivator is Tony Stark. It feels like the MCU is terrified to go into spidey's past at all

-Quips quips quips. I get spider-man is actually one of the characters that actually quips, but when everyone else in the entire MCU constant quips it just becomes irritating.

-Pajeet Goblin-looking flash

-More forced MCU tie-ins. omg x character from another movie appeared I remember them!

-MJ is lanklet, deliberately unfeminine Daria ripoff

-muh monument built by slaves agenda-pushing

-Massive product placement. Closeups of dorito bags and audi logos. If this didn't have the marvel stamp on it people would actually call them out for this.

-Weird awkward shit like Peter very deliberately burying his head in Aunt May's giant boobs
Fuck Marvel, fuck Disney, fuck muh quips XD

They didn't have enough qt extras with glasses.

So you're implying that Trump supporters are racist. At least you mouth breathers admit it now.

I was told that to make an omelette you have to break a few eggs. But you know what Ray, I'm the Rooster and I'm going to cuck-a-doodle you. Raimi knew this.

maybe if i pretend to like niggers she'll finally touch my penis!

fuck off kike

>tfw never will be able to bang this redpilled aryan woman

>It feels like the MCU is terrified to go into spidey's past at all
probably because raimi perfected it and they don't want to be repetitive

how wounded, it becomes.....

I might've watched Spider-Man if it was about adult Peter. The high school shit turned me off, and the cast just looks disgusting.

not even close to WW, I was even rooting for it

this, thank you. movies are only propaganda now

The presidency is voted on by electors not the people you retarded Trumpet. If it was, the liberal/Dem candidate would ALWAYS win.

he's right you know. Just changing an established character's race is what's backwards.

i mean this is the one situation where

>but he lost the popular vote

actually blows you the fuck out

>If it was, the liberal/Dem candidate would ALWAYS win
lol

Hmm. This might be the reason why it didn't do well. They made a film about high schoolers and the target audience was twenty somethings. Twenty something's don't want to see high schoolers. And high schoolers don't want to see a low-key plot.

That's probably why it's doing well in countries that glamorize the US high school experience.

Their live action movie lack big CGI and explosions and their animated movies just look like garbage. Feel like the James Bond movies are taking all the budgets.

Normal implies "not rare", "regular" and "status-quo". Interracial couplings of ANY color combination are still not the majority of relationships by any stretch of the imagination in the USA at all. Where the fuck do you live and why do you think it defines the rule for the majority?

could've been decent kino if it wasn't Iron Man 4

Normal does not mean common. It's normal to drive a BMW convertible to work. Not common, not in the majority by a long shot but not abnormal.

Taking another look at their track record i think ill agree with you. But the recent bond movies have had some seriously cool practical effects, so i guess sony prioritizes that franchise over others.

>hating on Marisa Tomei
What the fuck is wrong with people nowadays

> hurr durr this character that's supposed to be an old nan is completely changed into a younger hot mamacita. I love it because she is hottt!!

Do you really think they are all racist?

Nice rebuttal you fucking idiot. He is right

Did you forget that more people voted for her?

ok we will see

Was there a single person that liked that "vlog" sequence at the beginning?

I don't know about the US but I'm not watching this because
-Another reboot, I can't see what it can add to the existing movies since I've already seen the Spiderman Origin story on screen twice. The second time done worse
-Individually there are a lot of good Marvel movies but there's also a lot of bad ones. Despite Antman, which was entertaining, both Avenger movies and Ironman 3 have turned me off the MCU with it's 'too many characters, not enough development' approach to storytelling, inadvertent, badly-written comedy in place of serious dialogue and nobody dies.
-Based on the summary on Wikipedia, there really does not seem to be anything new in this movie other then Spiderman with MCU continuity porn. And really? With advanced inter-dimensional alien tech, the best villain they could add was the Guy who flew?

I might watch the next Spiderman though but I'm not expecting it to be good. In fact, I wonder why the MCU movies are so popular and performing so well with critics.

This right here.
Seeing this on Sup Forums is the reason I didn't go to see it, and I've seen all the other Marvel movies and am a fan of the Toby Maguire Spiderman movies.

So when are the bo numbers going to be released to btfo Sup Forums yet again? All you guys are complaining about the diversity propaganda but it'll make bank. So who should Hollywood listen and cater to?

>literally 5 seconds into the film someone is chastised for calling native Americans "Indians"
They should, only Poo in Loo Pajeets would defend this fucking example of what Capeshit is, At least Chief Slap-A-Hoe would rather drink Vodka and watch Kino on his TV instead of paying kikes money for boring dogshit with shit CGI, reddit humor, and crap writing.

Someone needs to photoshop auschwitz behind spiderman

But the Republicans cheated to win, so it doesn't count

I'm on it. Hopefully someone doesn't beat me to it.

Yes people have seen spider man 5 times now and they don't really care for a 6th but these movies are necessary for the fans and for the continuity and world building of the MCU.

Marvel can stand to make a little less money. There's no way they'll ever lose money on a super hero movie.

>destroyed WW
How?It didn't affected her daily box office at all, wonder woman so far was not affected by any movie at all because the audience is far more diverse, adult nerds,teenagers,families with little kids, even old people for the nostalgia.

Do you guys literally have a full time staff dedicated to posting g drumpf-tier bait on Sup Forums 24/7?

Unironically kill yourself you spectacular faggot

mmmm yeah lets anal-ize eachother

Because of the populated cities? Filled with poor niggers who don't buy tickets to movies or rich urbanites or don't care about superheroes?

They need middle America and the suburbs and smaller cities.

Honestly they need white people if they want to sell tickets in America. And white people voted for Trump

...but wasn't that big obelisk built by slaves?

It was okay but hopefully they'll reboot it soon. The effects are pretty dated and I just like origin stories. I mean they did fine but I think we've seen enough of this version of the franchise, it just doesn't feel fresh to me. Also if they want the teen crowd they're going to need to reboot it, no one is going to watch a sequel to this old stuff.