Don't believe their lies, trump is still up 0.6%

Don't believe their lies, trump is still up 0.6%

Don't falter. Don't let them put the seed of doubt in your mind, we're strong, we're the silent majority. Our rallies are full, hillary can't fill a gym.

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>one site out of dozens that show trump winning.

shut your mouth.

>Trump winning in a poll
Unbiased

>Trump losing in a poll
Biased

I've been a part of this hell hole for ten years now. I've seen rigged polls, I've seen elaborate pranks like getting CNN to run a story on Jews Did 9/11. I never believed this I never believed this Hillary-In-A-Massive-Lead bullshit because I knew better than to trust polling places where the sample group is chosen under unclear circumstances.

As far as I'm concerned if polling isn't conducted in a controlled environment with an extensive amount of data gathered on the sample it is taken from then it is entirely illegitimate. Do you see CNN, MSNBC, FOX, or other media organizations giving exact details on who they polled, when they polled them, and where they polled them? No. Even sociologists know better than to present findings without exhaustive data on its sample.

I don't believe media-published shit unless they present exhaustive data on their assertion. I don't believe anything that presents telephone or internet polls as factual and applicable to a population 320,000 times larger than its sample.

We'll fucking see how the polls turn out near the end of the years. Until then all these charts are meaningless anyway.

Yeah dips hit because we're supposed to believe Clinton went from failing miserably to soaring heights within days? Yeah k senpai

>polls methods outright show that all MSM polls are biased generally through oversampling or excluding demographics
>Third party polls almost without exception show Trump up.
>Hillary is struggling to get people to her rallies, DNC leak proves she's colluding with the MSM in the election

But no lets trust the MSM polls. Fucking shills.

Literally this.

During the DNC

>Trump up 6 points

After the DNC, after several polls 'update' their methodology

>Hillary up 10-15 points

How stupid do you think we are?

He is going to win the election because the bradley affect

None of the polls are accurate he's been up in the popular vote the whole time

This

the huge spike from trump winning and shillary falling behind to not only reversing the trend but putting shillary higher than she's ever been and trump lower ALL IN ONE DAY is something any idiot could tell you does not happen without manipulation.

We're the silent majority

don't listen to the cucks

>doesn't know this happens after every convention.

This happened in 2004, 2008, and 2012. I'm not that old, but even I know the conventions drastically sway the voters, but then the polls level out in the long term. Even Romney got ahead by 11 points after the RNC in 2012, but he lost it and bounced back a little and then lost a little.

I'm not even thirty, but I've gone through all of this before. This isn't staged, this is just how people react to all of these political charades.

You know what that's fine. Let the retards think Clinton is winning so we have a brexit win by everyone thinking that shill has the election in the bag

No, its not. We know for a fact they are engaging in fraudulent polling. They're sampling over 20% more democrats and 30% less independents then actually exist. One poll excluded 18-34s entirely.

On realclearpolitics, at least one "literally who" poll was added that showed Hilldog up 15 just to sway the numbers further.

This is no election bump, especially since all the early signs before the poll changes showed Hillary with a NEGATIVE bump.

It'll never last past the first debate. The reality of whats going on will sink in everyone after that, if it hasn't already.

What makes you say that

That's a complete lie. Hillary is up in the 18-30 category that I've seen, far beyond the 10 point lead. As usual, the republican leads in the elderly and the Democrat is leading among young voters.

>applicable to a population 320,000 times larger than its sample.

Sup Forums doesn't understand how statistics work. Color me shocked.

They excluded Millennials because Bernouts hate Hillary with a passion.
Because Trump will make a fool out of Hillary in the debate, assuming she doesn't literally have a seizure on stage from being called "Crooked Hillary" in front of 200 million people.

>Third party polls almost without exception show Trump up.
Where are these third party polls you talk about?

How could anyone be stupid enough to believe that trump could be down post the conventions.

His convention was largely a success, were the DNC was a total failure for hillary. and then after all that she gains 10 points in what world does that make any sense.

Last time around these dumb kids insisted that willard romney would win in a landslide

You have it wrong, it's:

Trump winning in a poll
>Biased
Trump losing in a poll
>Biased

>all these mental gymnastics and grasping at straws to make your guy look good
I'm disappoint, Sup Forums

Not in the LATimes / USC poll, they were almost tied among that age group.

I am going to be honest here. There are some things that are talked about that are not seen much. Sometime it seems that Trump has things to say. Hillary Clinton, however when she says thing almost talks slow. If one thing can be learned from this election it is that Ted Cruz, Rand Paul. Sometimes I seriously wonder if Donald Trump knows what he did. Bernie Sanders knows all about it. The policies talked about are not going fast. One thing that is for certain is that Gary Johnson is gonna be there, there is no doubt about it. I often hear supporters saying that healthcare happened, but I only see things going one direction.

Let's be honest. I know exactly what I am talking about.

Do they display their methodology and reasons as to why their alterations are accurate?

Wikileaks did a four-way poll awhile back, no particular methodology but had Trump at 50%, Hillary at 22%, most interesting result was Jill Stein taking 16% of the vote, presumably from disaffected Bernouts.

Some other guys did a poll of 50,000 people [1000 per state], had Trump around 67%, Clinton 19%, again third parties taking a major part of the vote this time around at 13%.

Lastly there's the OP, which tries to correct the oversampling of MSM polls, but which shows a more conservative slight Trump lead.

I trust these more than the MSM not only because of the obvious forgery in the MSM's polls, but also because it reflects the on the ground reality much better.

Trump regularly getting 10k+ people at his rallies, Hillary basically having to pay people to show up, barely netting a few hundred.

Voter turnout in the Republican primaries through the roof, Hillary got less than she did in '08

And most importantly. And if you hear anything I said in this post, hear this. The Bernouts are disaffected, and they are going to go to anyone but Hillary. A huge chunk are going to go Stein and Johnson, and some are even going to go Trump. They aren't going to vote in droves for the woman who literally rigged an election against their kike socialist demigod.

They're not statistics without context you ignorant fuck. Have you ever actually gathered data for a study? Asking people on the internet or over a telephone who they're voting for isn't gathering statistics, it's an unvetted survey. If you tried that shit in academia you'd get ripped the fuck apart by peer review.

bobmannblog.com/2015/07/20/beware-the-crowdsmanship-does-the-size-of-political-rallies-really-mean-much/

You actually have to look at crowd sizes at rallies as the inverse of what you expect. Bigger and bigger rallies mean a WEAKER candidate, who's just pulling in fanatical supporters. Smaller rallies mean fewer fanatics, but a much broader "silent majority" who aren't showing up because they've already made up their minds and know everyone around them agrees.

Hillary will win by 68 Electoral College votes and 150,000 popular vote.

Liberals are disgusting, terrible, shallow little sheep. Get a couple celebrities together and you could convince them to do just about anything.

>Some other guys did a poll of 50,000 people [1000 per state]
States don't have equal populations.

They don't need to. The idea of winning 60%+ of the popular vote and not winning the electoral college is laughable.

One of the dumbest things I've ever read on this board. Congrats.

Sup Forums thinks they are redpilled but also thinks Mainstream Media polls aren't rigged.

This place is bluepilled as hell.

Its just the shills who think the polls aren't rigged.

I don't believe that on the day the Bernouts will actually vote as much for third parties. Although they have patience on their side. If they're smart they'll think that Trump will be a disaster, and therefore they can wait for the progressive that will follow him.

Whew son you are brainwashed badly. What are you even doing on Sup Forums?

The core point is that many of them will either go anyone EXCEPT Clinton, or will stay one. The Bernout exodus from the Democratic party, coupled with low voter turnout, is going to decide this election. Which is why you have the MSM in full panic mode.

And why Hillary is literally running campaign ads in California.

>Wikileaks did a poll on twitter
>unbiased
Do you really believe a poll on wikileaks twitter feed is less biased than the pollster? Are you for real?

stay home*

Do I think its accurate? No, of course not, its a survey without a methodology.

Do I think its more likely representative than the MSM polls I outright know are rigged?

Yes, yes I do. Especially since it, along with other such polls, show a large Democratic defect via the Bernie supporters.

...

I understand.

Also, I think ti's a mistake to say that the Bernouts were Democrats on the whole, the same as it's a mistake to say that Trump supporters are Republicans on the whole. Many independents are drawn by these two people. But you already know this, i'm sure.

...

I can go dumber.

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Trump's rally numbers are nowhere NEAR Obama's in 2008. The President literally got hundreds of thousands of people in Missouri and Chicago, compared to Trump getting maybe 30,000 in Republican stronghold counties in Florida and Arizona. Just based on that alone, how the fuck can we believe Trump can win? The Obama coalition hasn't gone away; if anything it's more energized this year than ever by BLM, police shootings, and Trump's racist dogwhistles. His rallies are just echo chambers that don't draw in new voters Republicans need to defeat the Democrats, and they never will if he wins.

You forgot to put on your human disguise lampshade.

Does this guy get to vote twice? His son can't make it to the polls.

What the fuck am I reading

really made me think

Not him, but no arguments. Trump did a pretty good job of turning this argument from left/right to nationalist/globalist.

Hillary has been saying that nationalism is hate, which is an argument she can not win, but one that international corporations (including MSM) WANT to win.

Simply talking to people about the concept of the individual before the whole, the family before the community, the community before the nation, and the nation before the world reaps very positive results, especially considering that most people are burned out on the wars waged in order to maintain the petro dollar (which Hillary has supported for decades), and are ready to let it go.

If you really believe a poll on twitter is more accurate than the polls over at realclearpolitics (remember that it takes all the major pollsters into account) than I really don't see a point in arguing.
Jill Stein got 16% on that twitter poll. I guess they are rigging the polls against her as well.

But what does it mean?

WHAT DOES IT MEAN!?!

>If you tried that shit in academia you'd get ripped the fuck apart by peer review.

Only if you're a conservative. If you're liberal then it's fine.

Thank You For Correcting The Record! .01 has been deposited to your account.

Seriously, these are the worst talking points I've ever seen. Apply yourself.

Meanwhile, in reality
>(((WAKE ME UP)))

You do realise that Democrat/Republican demographics change?

Also
>pollsters have preconigtion that allows them to know who is a Democrat and who isn't and poll them

Fuck you nigger shill!

>rally numbers are bad it means more fanatics. Silent majority wins
>Obama had tens of thousands more at his rallies than trump
So do we go with empirical evidence of more people at the rally = more votes or the other theory

is there anything more pathetic than trumpfags right now? Just his poll numbers!

>50,000 people poll
You do realise that's satire right
13 people cannot call 50,000 people in two weeks.

And how everyone answered is a mystery.

Thanks for correcting the record schlomo
.0001 shekels have been deposited in your account

>GA
>AZ
>voting clinton

Is this from Nate "Increasingly Nervous" Silver's site? Didn't he learn his lesson already?

Is this the poll?
alipac.us/f9/50-000-people-polled-50-states-trump-won-335883/

I'm lost for words.

He's not going against Obama
And now suddenly rally numbers matter? Make up your mind

Trump will win.

Kek wills it

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get over it

>a fucking Christmas tree

>He was dumb enough to get hoodwinked then too!

>trumptards have to find no name polls to convince themselves they're still running

kek

F

nobody disputes the MSM/Democrats (and particularly MSM/Hillary) collusion

but that does not mean that Trump is winning.

Shut the fuck up you dirty rat