Wtf? I love American now!

wtf? I love American now!

Sweden received marshall aid

[triggered]

>turkey
>sweden

thx usa

Why didn't Finland? I thought West Europe in general was rebuilt by the USA and East Europe got rebuilt by USSR after Nazis reeked havoc.

Actual Finland, Spain, Switzerland and some tiny countries also didn't get aid...hm

What was there to rebuild in Sweden?

remember this next time you post amerimutt. maybe one of my non mutt ancestors helped finance this.

Because stalin didn't allow it.

I don't know. I just know that pretty much Europe was trashed by WWII (and Great Depression, WWI) etc. so it needed to be rebuilt. And USA and USSR did so. USA in the West (Capitalism), and USSR in the East (Communism). USA also rebuilt Japan too.

We took in a bunch of Jews who wanted gibs

there's still some lasting animosity from the spanish american war

gib more

>takes in jews
>sends eestis back to get gulagd
lol

Europe has been fleecing north america

thanks for the dollarydoos I suppose, yanks
you can leave now though

Nowadays doesn't the poor parts of Europe go to EU/Germany?
USA spend our money trying to """""""""rebuild"""""" Middle East and its still shit.

“””””””””””rebuild””””””””””” needs more “”””””””””””””””””””s

I know Spain was fascist and shit, but why didn't they get any money? maybe Spain wouldn't be a shit hole if the USA had helped them rebuild after the civil war.

What was there to rebuild in Spain?

Basically everything

I think its not about spain being fascists but has more to do with this guy.

Fascist shit hole whose leader was effectively installed by Italy. Also didn't take part in the war. Why would they get aid? Also they weren't a formal US military ally until 1982.

>Spanish Civil War 1936-1939
>US GIBMEDATS plan 1948
Really, Nigel?

>Choose Montgomeme to lead Market Garden

Ofc they paid us. We accept your apology

Sweden wasn't even affected by the war, but they still got gibs. Why not Spen?

Now put your colonies in the bag and walk away.

That's exactly my point, Sweden were dicks and shouldn't have gotten shit either.

Isn't it odd how the funds the UK received, almost exactly match the UK's nuclear weapon programme that the Yanks were leading

thanks stalin

We should have done more

Love you too bby

>East Europe got rebuilt by USSR after Nazis reeked havoc.
lmao

$cammin

He's right. We got nowhere near the money nor opportunities as the west but the USSR did rebuild Poland. And considering the abysmal state of economy in Interwar Poland you can't even argue that they did damage in the first place.

Franco rejected it. He wanted to rebuild Spain using Spanish money and resources

Great Franco of Honour!

We didn't get help with our nuclear programme.

Oh. That explains the state of Spain.

>all that money
>still get overtaken economically within a mere decade by a country that was reduced to rubble

>not going full socialist and then full liberal market

Are you even TRYING?

Literally how? They sank their own ship and autistically started shooting us.

I assure that no one gives a shit and a significant portion of the population doesn't even know it happened.

Poland was also offered to receive money from the Marshall Plan, but Stalin forced us to refuse.

Sauce for that

>the USSR did rebuild Poland.

The only thing they built was the Palace of Culture. The rest was rebuilt by Poles.

Military aid, heh. What does that translate to in US military presence?

That is a very simplified version of the very complex historical thing.
For every country it was a bit different. You can not take the west Europe or the east Europe as a whole. Especially after a war, the relations were very complicated. For my country for example, the Czechoslovak Republic at that time, we were forced by the soviets not to accept marshalplan. And the soviet "rebuild" was something like taking food from Ukraine, which then starved, and giving it to us to create and illusion of the great wealthy soviet union. They did not really had enough money to rebuild anything. That's one of the reasons the reasons why the countries which did not get marshalsplan aid are significantly less developed to these days. As an example you can take germany. Even though Prussia, the eastern part, had always been the richest of the german states, today they are the opposite.
Also, there was no WWII in Spain or Switzerland.

>And the soviet "rebuild" was something like taking food from Ukraine, which then starved, and giving it to us to create and illusion of the great wealthy soviet union.
I fail to see the problem.

>USSR did rebuild Poland
Fucking retard. Half of my city was packed up and transported to USSR.

The problem is that the USSR forced us to build ugly commieblocks instead of proper reconstruction.

>instead of proper reconstruction.
Jew owned apartment buildings?

Yes. No one wanted them to give them back to Jews. Just to rebuild them for Poles.

during that time? one of your presidents that was instrumental in that war is immortalized on the side of a mountain.

>milions dead in Ukraine
>people in the Czechoslovak republic got a good image of the wicked soviet union
>communists get a lot of votes in the 1938 election
>communists take over and rule the country for 40 years, destroying economy, all democratic values and making our society corrupt and deceased
now my generation has to deal with it

>Just to rebuild them for Poles.
And waste a square shitton of resources that could be used to build 8 times as many apartments for 8 times as many families because some cocksucker's sense of aesthetics was offended?
Have you ever tried to look at socialist ideas from a point of view different than the usual butthurt "boohoo they hurt muh feefees"?
Socialist urban planning is unmatched to this day.

But millions of Ukrainians died? Surely that makes it worth it.

Everyone built commieblocks in the 50s and 60s, Janusz. Go to any medium-sized town in Western Europe or Japan and you will find the same aesthetics.

>unmatched to this day
>builds town infrastructure against the idea that only one in ten people will own a car
Genius!

Sweden got aid as a bribe basically. The Soviets were doing their own Marshall variant (naturally nowhere near as effective) and giving some to Sweden and Turkey was literally nothing in the grand scheme of things compared to creating good will, keeping commies out, drawing the countries into a western economic sphere etc etc.

>faggots say Germany only did well because of the Marshall Plan
>it actually only got the 4th most

Glorious (((American))) education.
How do the brits sleep at night?
At least our ex-colonies made funny memes about Galicians, but the US?
They are just poppy guards to fuel their own drug addicitions.

Cars are a scourge to human society and socialists realized that by looking at the cager culture that developed in USA. They rightfully wanted to prevented it from happening.

because Germany got aid outside of the Marshall Plan

When I said USSR rebuilt East Europe I didn't mean they did a great job. Obviously it was mostly shit. Just like USA is doing shit job """"rebuilding""" Iraq.

That's why EU/Germany is re-rebuilding East Europe and giving a lot of aid money that way.

Doesn't even need USSR, (((m*dernists))) are enough...

>scourge of humanity
>freedom of mobility
Scourge of totalitarian shitholes more like it.

>And waste a square shitton of resources that could be used to build 8 times as many apartments for 8 times as many families because some cocksucker's sense of aesthetics was offended?

Yes. That's what they did in western Europe and that's why everyone wants to live there, not here.

>Have you ever tried to look at socialist ideas from a point of view different than the usual butthurt "boohoo they hurt muh feefees"?

I live in a commieblock and I hate it. But I live here because it's cheap. And it's cheap, because everyone who has more money, leaves this commieblock hellhole. No one really wants to live in a commieblock.

>They rightfully wanted to prevented it from happening.

what do you know about modernism...

Ow the edge

disgusting, have you no pride?

You obviously have the mental ability of long-term thinking of a goldfish. Why would I bother arguing with you about it?

>>freedom of mobility
Just look at all that fucking freedom. God I love cars now!

forgive him, he could not get to school due to the poor transit.

Sadly, quite a bit.

>everyone in the US lives in Los Angeles

>lacking infrastucture
>blames cars
like cockwork

Germany's debts were written off and the USA chose West Germany (and Japan, as Mao's China was a no-go) to recycle its overproduction. Your grandparents' house is probably full of old appliances made in the USA. This is the combination that allowed Germany's economy to become dominant again, as it had become after the Franco-Prussian war.

But this is Sup Forums and I guess the correct answer is something about whiteness and feminism

>car infrastructure destroying cities and causing urban sprawl is purely a problem of Los Angeles

Christ that's ugly. Was the one on the left destroyed in the war or did they actually tear it down to build the new shit

I forgot were I read it but Salazar and Portugal got money so it has to be true

oh yes, the famous british humour
kill yourself you retarded inbred

But commies did build cities for cars, you idiot. Commieblock neighborhoods have 2-3 lane pseudo-highways going through them. They are completely anti-pedestrian, they built underpasses for people while streets were reserved for cars. Now these passages are gradually closed, because they're anti-human.

It's what friends are for, we still give like 5% of our GDP to other countries as gifts

>car infrastructure is destroying the South and the Midwest
>even though there's no feasible way to link the rural population to the cities through public transport

And yet... no parking spaces. Anywhere.

Well... thanks for the freedum, I guess.

>there's no feasible way to link the rural population to the cities through public transport
>everyone besides us managed to do it but we americans are different

I noticed this, lots of big wide roads around Warsaw and wasn't really sure why, thought things would have gone in the other direction

Please don't think we're all like that

never again, bomber harris

It is feasible to do though. I live in a rural town in Michigan and ride the bus sometimes. Even the more rural places nearby have these services. They're heavily subsidized by the government.

umm... We haven't, Only our urban centers have metros, We have busses that crosses from urban to rural areas but I believe the U.S does that too

It is a tragedy that it was all necessary.

Sweden was unscathed, you just helped us a bit with out nuclear weapons program and fighter jet development, due to being scared by the soviets. Who of course weren't very happy when, an otherwise militarily irrelevant country, all of a sudden developed a swept-wing fighter jet and other tech they really had no means of acquiring on their own.

It was a punishment because Franco was a Hitler sympathizer.

>>lacking infrastucture
You people are the goyest on this planet
Yeah buddy the solution to traffic congestion caused by urban sprawl and everyone relying on cars to get to and back from work because everything is outside of a walking distance and there's no public transport is clearly more infrastructure so we can bring more fucking cars so we could sprawl even further and go back to the start.

>grug like car

There's no way we can afford to send buses out to farms that are 2 hours from the nearest city

I really doubt he's English, mate. Most people here don't even really know what a Ukraine is.

Rip. You could try and make things a bit nicer now though now that you have money, we're building lots of buildings in stone nowadays (or at least stone cladding so it looks like the nice old buildings that got bombed)

Warsaw was almost completely rebuilt from scratch with some modern city planning for those times, so a large part of it looks more similar to American cities with grid system and wide roads.
Also, I've read somewhere that those wide roads were specifically built with Red Army in mind, to allow easier transportation of Soviet troops from eastern to western frontier, but I'm not completely sure about that.